Princess V39 - What is all the fuss about?
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2021
- James explores the V39 and how and why the V39/V40 boats have gone up in value since new. A strange phenomenon in the boating world!
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I have a v39. Berthing is 7.5k not 15k (south coast premier marina). Fuel is about £3k (60 hours) insurance is £800 not £2-3k. Servicing averages out about £2k. Other maintenance another £2k. I reckon your figures are about 25-30% over the top - other than that you are spot on. it’s a fantastic family boat - had ours for six years which is the longest we’ve kept a boat. And yes if we sold it we’d make some money. But we’d have a big problem finding a better replacement for the money. And yes the roof mechanism has required attention twice in the six years!
Thanks David. Happy to be corrected 😊
I really enjoy your videos, you, unlike other dealer channels, don't pull any punches, you tell the truth of what you think of the boats, and I highly respect that.
Thanks Dean
Perfect blend of information, entertainment with the bonus of you not being afraid to point out the bad points unlike most channels.
Great work keep it up
Thanks Steve. 🍻
So good as always. Honest and amusing is a great combination. Don't forget to add on the cost of repairing the roof cables every couple of months. Thanks for the video, as always they never fail to put a smile on my face.
Spare roof cables
I love your channel. YOu tell it like it is, and you comments have helped me with my boat purchase and upgrades. Love from the USA
Thank you 🙏
Another good video James thanks
I love your videos… and the floss test in the heads always make me
Crease up! Keep up the good work 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Need another towel 😂
Another enjoyable and informative tour James spot on!
Thanks John
I love it !!! Cheers from Germany !
Great socks guys👌😁 good walkaround. Princess always impress with the sinks. Never change, I enjoy these.
Best sinks ever.
hahahah sit here and annoy the Captain !!! you kill me !!! but a great sales video!!! your very honest !!!
You know I’m a subscriber James!
I’m only here for a good flossing 😂😂😂
Or a good shout window in a busy marina 😂
We have a 2015 V39, and haven't have an issue with our roof system except a loose cir clip which was fixed easily. The manufacturers in South Wales sent us full drawings of the system, so very easy to put right. But i agree with you a fab mid range vessel.
So much space in a boat of that size and a fabulous sea boat. We've covered south coast from Fowey, St Catherine's Dock up the Thames and the Channel Islands. Well used this season. For anyone looking for a 40 footer, newish boat they really should check them out.
Not sure on your yellow tipped socks though !!
Yes Makefast in Wales who sort roofs- you are lucky if you are nearby 😊
Some great information there👍
Fantastic. I did subscribe!
honest review is all you can ask for from a boat dealer,. The roof would not be spoken about till the cable came off with salesman for sure. Keep up the great work funny too
Thank you
Great video……especially the running cost bit towards the end….really informative (bittersweet as I definitely cannot afford it! Sort of didn’t want it confirmed 😂)
Moor on a swinging mooring and travel at displacement speeds except in an emergency or when showing off 😁
See the comment elsewhere by David Moore who sets out his actual costs (South Coast marina) which are about 30% below those stated by James
I think with boating you've got to be in one of 2 camps. Oodles of money for "the yard to do it" or oodles of experience and be able to do it yourself. But one thing is for sure; you must be one of those no matter what size the boat is.
I bet you're a great craic on a night out James. Pretty funny when you haven't had a beer! Enjoyed that - cheers.
Yes it goes downhill fast after a few beers Steve 😂
Your honesty with the various issues on some boats is great and buyers need to know these things. It would have been a better video if the camera lens was clean though, lots of flare from dirty lens.
Yes I agree - apologies. Will clean lens next time !
I had a V39 with two D6-370, it exceeded 42 knots flat out.
However, I fully agree: the sun roof mechanism is just a piece of sh...
There's some nice tender options even with the sunbed fitted.
Great and honest video James.
Cheers Ralf
Love the V39, best video advert for prospective buyers (in my opinion) would be the series of videos called ' Princess V39 to Norway', how can anybody not want a V39?
Would love to see why the roof mechanism fails, I reckon it could be fixed with a modification.
Keep the vids coming please 👍❤️🇬🇧
Thanks Steve. You are right - roof needs a redesign on the mech
Sounds like cable stretch coupled with insufficient pin diameter and / or lack of tensioner adjustment to compensate. fix is simple, a mixture from; thicker or stronger cables (or prestretch), redesign pulleys, upgrade tensioner system. Should be a simple matter for a competent manufacturer. A 2012 vessel still has the problem? hmm, I think I'd find that lack of Kaizen somewhat worrying.
@@macbouncer8525 is it a cable and pulley system and the issue is the cable jumping of the pulley? I haven't seen the system and am just trying to visualise it. 👍
@@cookiemonster2299 at 4.20 he says "the cables keep jumping off the spools" so I'm assuming yes 😃.
As an aside, I did think that the wire rope he held up looked more suitable for photocopiers than roof awnings. I've got thicker wire ropes than that on my trellis!
One of the cheapest ways to do it might be to have the two rotating 'spools' fixed to the hull at each side, then the awning fixed to the cable (clamped?) a few turns of cable around the the motorised spools, a few limit switches in line to the motor and thats about it.
That specific approach could cause several issues, synchronisation of both sides being one of them. Getting both sides to close completely and at the same time. its very possible that if one closes slightly before the other (even if off by only 1 or 2 mm) then the first side to close, that cable will be in tension, repeat that too many times and it would easily cause structural stretching of the cable over time. Unless there is a mechanism to compensate for the stretching, it will gain enough 'slack' to jump off the spool. I should add that I have no insight into the design of the system other than applying the guiding heuristic of Occam's razor to what we've seen, been told and the fact that it keeps happening. 🤓
@@macbouncer8525 cheers ears 😁👍🇬🇧
Great entertaining review again ! I wouldn’t mind having a punt on one of these but I needs the mrs to lose 30kg so we can both go on the high/low platform.(p.s. I’m 130kg). Beautiful boat though👍🏻
Also you don't want to have to worry about COG calcs for take off and landing. 🙂
Such a chuffing nice package. My plan if I can ever afford it would be, V39 to start -- 49/F50 to move up to. I did my school work experience at Marine Projects in Plymouth in the 90s and had a nice time. Spent some time wrapping wiring with insulation tape, some sanding of foam from memory, then went out on a big monster Princess Yacht in the sound for some sea trials, that vessel felt so classy and hewn from granite, shame I don't know which model it was now, that experience sowed a seed.
Both fast boats for the size too, the 49 (F50) can do about 36 knots, cruise above 30, as can the V39/V40. With IPS or DPH drive I believe the economy stays flat with increasing speed on a lot of boats, so even though the fuel burn in litre per miles goes up, it goes up a similar amount in line with the speed, some IPS boats get their best planing economy at over 25 knots. James you should find a way to put the boats into mpg mode rather than lph for your reviews, as if the speed rises more than the extra fuel burnt a boat can be more efficient at higher speed = better mpg. You get there quicker so the extra litre per hour doesn't always mean higher fuel burnt overall, such as with some of these boats that get best planing efficiency at high speed. Economy on shaft driven boats just tends to get worse at higher speeds (say going from 15-30 knots), and not stay flat or improve as some non shaft ones do.
Like for this boat it gets better economy (and range) at 28 knots than 13 knots, an IPS 600 boat: www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fboattest.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Finline-images%2Fformula45_volvopenta435d.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fboattest.com%2Fview-news%2F3438_new-volvo-penta-ips-for-bigger-boats&tbnid=r04GeUEmECT5NM&vet=12ahUKEwjjz_7Xo8f5AhURaRoKHbAvCrsQMygAegUIARCFAQ..i&docid=zH6kaI_nz8gpOM&w=494&h=320&q=ips%20economy%20vs%20speed%20boats%20mpg%20volvo&ved=2ahUKEwjjz_7Xo8f5AhURaRoKHbAvCrsQMygAegUIARCFAQ (0.88 mpg vs 0.76 mpg)
Even the shaft boat in that article gets better economy at 28 knots compared to 12 knots, I suspect that that it's due to the engines being more efficient at high load (but not flat out) and less drag as the boat lifts out of the water more as it planes faster = less drag. But IPS is about 50% more efficient at high speed, 0.9mpg vs. 0.6mpg, so while a shaft boat might cost $1500 to fuel for a trip, the IPS one would cost £1000, but both cheaper at a faster plane than a slow one as the mpg is higher.
According to this the V39 get similar or better economy at 38 knots vs. 31 knots, that is amazing: www.vikingsportcruisers.com/mainnew/newsDetails.asp?numIdVal=49 Divide litres per hour by speed to get the real comparison for fuel economy.
I'm an engineer BTW so this type of stuff floats my boat :) to some extent. It's sad I know but a guilty pleasure thinking about these things.
Hi Tim - when you ready - give me a shout. I would start smaller than v39 and start enjoying 😀 (sales@boats.co.uk)
Sumptuous as always, Jimmy B🤘 Wonder which one turns more profit: Selling _many_ small boats, or _few_ big ones🤔
Few big ones
Had the privilege of owning one of these for 3 years, a fantastic boat, real quality. How they can charge 600k today is staggering.
Another entertaining review as always James…..but on the running costs I would say you underplayed the annual maintenance costs by a long way…..our 2011 V45 is somewhat similar but with slightly larger D6 engines and we are averaging between 10-15k per year on maintenance. Probably c7-8k on simply servicing the engines, drives and a hull lift clean/polish/antifoul and the rest in stuff that has to be replaced periodically (batteries, float switches, pumps, hoses etc). And heaven forbid anything goes wrong with the Volvo stuff as those swedes know how to charge!!! Especially on all the electronic stuff😱😱
You are right about the roof mechanism……and they are not cheap to fix either.
Thanks Peter. Are you based in Uk ? If yes - whereabouts ? As service costs vary massively
Holy Mary. Who is charging that loot to service the engines. You're correct though, volvo parts are outrageously expensive.
@@gulag8735 that is not just the engines. It is the engines and outdrives (all volvo) plus the liftout, hull clean and polish, antifoul etc. but the engine and drives are probably half that cost assuming no major issues!!!!
@@Boatscouk no, in Denia Spain. For sure parts are a bit more expensive out there versus UK
Hey, what do you mean I've been naughy and not subscribed.. I subscribed ages ago and always leave a 'like'..😅 ...Seriously though I really enjoy all of your videos even though unless the universe conspires manifests me a lottery jackpot I shall never own any of the boats you review I still enjoy looking and hoping as I'd love to be in the position to have say a 2011ish Fairline Squadron 55 and give it a Seatag update. That would be heaven, especially living here in Cornwall....
I run a 2017 V40 in Hong Kong. The roof has gone 3 times this year! Seriously annoying but the rest of the boat fantastic as you say. If you have any fix ideas I'm all ears!
Yes it’s a design floor that needs fixing. Thanks DH .
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Good boats 😎
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How does these "open" boats fair in nordic climate. I'm guessing Sweden and England has similar weather. Does the fabric roof hold up? Cause I've heard several people saying that the "open" boats are more Mediterranean spec.
They are fine for Northern Europe . In winter you can cover the roof completely .
I subscribed, now im just waiting for my free yacht!
Free yacht - next week 😂
Have they sorted / improved the sun roof on the V40?
Hmm - I don’t think so
D6 engine displaces 5.5 litres. The 6 is the number of cylinders. In my defence, I have subscribed 😀
6is the nominal displacement as 12 is 12 litre and 13 is 13 litre definitely not just number of cylinders
The one D3 was a 5 cylinder. As mentioned by Michael, it's the nominal displacement, D3 is around 3 litre, D4 is a 3.7l, D6 is just under 6l etc
We can only press subscribe once lol. Those drives look manly lol
Does anyone know whether Princess fixed the roof issue on the V40?
No it’s an ongoing issue I think
I love your reviews that's why i subscribed.I will tell others to subscribe
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As she is on stern drives and not shafts what is she like at sea? You have mentioned in the past that some boats with engines placed aft can have a nose up attitude.
Yes although an out drive boat has a different hull and you can tilt the drives to get the bow down 👌
Wow, only 12K subs vs 22K views
In America we still love Cherry
Yes the brits have gone off it a bit 🥺
Why are those bow and stearn thrusters rare on this boat?
Stern drives get in way of thrusters
Seriously, you are funnier than most of the comedians on TV shows. Why don't you consider to become a stand-up comedian with all those boat jokes?
Come on 😂
A Princess should always have a tender behind...
Alot of underwater engineering at the @rse end that will be a bugger to maintain in years to come.
Not too bad
owned one v39.lovley boat in all way, but the sunroof is a nightmare!! everything from opacmare is really bad quality.same situation on a v53 I just sold.hours after hours with repairing on the sunroof.princess must try to find a new supplier ,they will lose customers on this
Yes I agree it needs a better design. I thought the v39 roofs were made by makefast ?
Brilliant viewing James... as usual ! Love your honesty.... Excellent Vlog Thumbs Up from me.... SUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE.... I mean... who would want to miss one of your Vlogs ???
You are the best Patricia ! 👌
You are hilarious
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So it's the Rolex Submariner of sports cruisers. Bugger all availability pushing up used residual values. Boom
So why on earth are they not making more boats per year....
You would have to ask the factory but I suppose they would say the following at the mo. Covid parts, Covid working on a small boat is tricky and lastly I think they lose money on every one and hope you buy a bigger one later. 😉
You say the boat has a "high low deck" im guessing the boat is not sold to Americans as it only lifts 150 Kg and a American would not be able to use it ...
I subscribed a long time ago. Sorry I can't do it again and get you anywhere extra by it, but good luck!
I do have to say, however, that when you hit 15,000 subscribers, you should celebrate by buying a new adjective. You're overusing the word 'lovely' pretty badly. 🤣
Good point! What word do you suggest?
You're a beautiful Man 👨
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C’mon…enough subscribers begging
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