My Take On The Beatles' Red & Blue 2023 Re-release/Remix
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The best buy is The red Album IMO because of the way the original were recorded and how the new tech has brought them up to date. The majority of the blue album we've had before.
Lemon in the soda? Fancy pants! I actually had no idea the were remixed, either!
What they did in the new remixes is NOT even "new" tech. Good spectral separations have been possible for 5+ years. Yes, you can do it at home either with online tools or running the algorithms on your own computer if you know how to do that. The older tech was more manual isolation by drawing on spectragrams but the new tech can do great automatic isolations in a minute. I have the "Please Please Me" album with the drums and lead vocals square in the middle and kept the guitars wide. It sounds amazing far better than what Giles did.
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I don’t mind the MMT 2023 mixes but some songs from the red album sound off like She Loves You. I’d like to think it’s cause of the way they originally recorded it they couldn’t separate it well but then again they should’ve used the same AI technology they used for Now and Then and make it sound better. With all this new tech get ready for the “definitive” editions of all the Beatles albums lol
The new remix of "I Am The Walrus" has completely new radio FX added in they do not belong. The new sounds are not on the actual multi-track and they can't be pulled out of the existing mono mix. There is no separate tape either. What does exist is the clean audio of the BBC play which has been widely booted. The ONLY place the radio sounds (static, sine wave noise) ever existed was in the mono mix overseen by John Lennon. The sounds were added LIVE during mixing. They also added new radio FX for the LOVE remix and the DVD remix. Don't listen to the ignorant clowns at the Hoffman forum for ANYTHING technical about the Beatles recordings. Furthermore it wasn't even necessary to replace the sounds they could have been spectrally demuxed out of the mono mix. I've did it myself with an online demixing algorithm. You drop in the WAV file and it separates into bass, drums, lead vocals, and other (orchestra + noise). Then you drop the "other" track right back in the multi-track with the original clean bass, drums and lead vocal. BOOM, easy as pie. There was no need to erase what John Lennon selected.
That opening 'music' was beautiful! Like Zappa's "Ship Ahoy"!
Those coloured 45s are beautiful! Great info about all those remixes. I find all these different remix versions s all so confusing. My head is spinning!
Regarding The Beatles, I listen to their LPs on iTunes.
To each their own, no shame.
The best "She Loves You" is from the CD EP set from the early 1990s. You can hear all the high and low end intact with no futzing or sloppy attempts to cover up the tape edits by shaving off all the high end frequencies as the did for the new remix. It sounds incredible. This and the unfutzed "I Want To Hold Your Hand" are worth the price of admission. Even the EP contents that also appeared on the main albums sound better. There are also infinitely better spectral stereo up-mixes of "She Love You" out there. The new remix is literally the worst representation of the song EVER.
i got "i am the walrus" from "magical mystery tour". i selected to buy that album by random selection via my calculator.
That's the original and better than the 2023 remix.
I heard the recent blue album with new mixes(and new songs added). Sorry not a fan. I have both the original and they are better imho. Some things should be left untouched.
I'll be honest, I think the new remixes are terrible. Just like the majority of Giles Martin's remixes are terrible.
He's a lovely guy, but he just doesn't understand how to place each sonic element within a stereo space to create a pleasant listening experience.
He likes to crank up the bass and the vocals. So much so that they overpower everything else. And not only that, but his remixes have the awful
tendency to sound as if someone recorded two tape players playing the music and the vocals separately. Or if you prefer: it sounds as if someone
taped themselves singing to a song they're listening to.
Now, I will say that I did like some of the Sgt. Pepper mixes. Not as much as the original, but they were at least fine.
But you put on "She Loves You" or "I Am the Walrus" now and they sound absolutely HORRIBLE!
The only "good" thing I can think of to say is that the Please Please Me songs (understandably) sound the worst, and the later album tracks slightly better.
But these were supposed to be the definitive remixes, sprinkled with AI fairy dust. A miracle that did the impossible.
And they're definitely not that. Hell, even the 1999 Yellow Submarine Songtrack album sounds infinitely superior to this.
Sigh. And then they had to release that bummer of a downer that is "Now and Then". It's not bad as such, but it's the most depressing
Beatles song of them all.
Rant over. Can't wait for the 50th Anniversary Edition of Over-Nite Sensation. At least that will be GOOD.
Giles Martin has sucked the life out of all the Beatles albums. Save your money and stick with the originals.
@@tonyfox7510 I surely will.
I love the remix of pepper for the most part. As much as the stereo orig and more than the mono.
But the space is now cluttered with so many versions of so many songs it's getting silly
You are spot on but you didn't mention the worst of Giles' remixes: Ringo's drums. My god it's as if Ringo was playing solo and the rest of the Beatles were backing him! Giles mixed the drums way too prominently. On some songs they are shrill and piercing. I cannot believe how some people think these remixes are great. I will not be buying these albums.
@@goplad1 You're right. But really, Giles cranks EVERYTHING up loud. Just a bit more and it'd be nothing but distortion.
He even ruined Abbey Road (the album)!
I've always considered that to be a "bass album" since Macca's playing is so prominent on it. Well, Giles agreed. And now, there's nothing BUT bass on it, which is not what it's supposed to be!
"She Loves You", "I Am The Walrus" and "Old Brown Shoe" are sonic train wrecks is all I know. Thankfully there are superior versions out there. Actually nearly all the new mixes have been done MUCH better by the home-brew remix crowd. The new Rubber Soul remixes mostly sound great with the exception of "Nowhere Man" where they somehow got the spectrally separated hi-hat and snare out of sync with each other. That's why it sounds messed up. How do you screw up a simple 4-track recording??? Why do you need to break down an already spectrally separated drums track into even more tracks?? It's all just gratuitous remixing madness but people and studios want to be like "Look what we can do!!". A Pro-Tools session for a 4-track recording does not need to look like a checkerboard. Listening to the new mixes I can tell they are literally giving the isolated snare tracks (and everything else for that matter) their OWN reverb tracks separate from everything else. That's why modern remixes don't gel like the old mixes. Everything is in it's own space. In the old days they used ONE echo chamber and ONE plate reverb.
The remixes are mostly abysmal. Giles Martin has a tin ear when it comes to balance of sound. Many of his remixes are fraught with too much percussion. Ringo's drums seem to be the main instrument, shrill and loud. I couldn't believe it. On some songs McCartney's bass is so deep in the mix it may as well not be there at all while on other songs it's front and center along with Ringo's drums. The remix of "Love Me Do" is dreadful. The original Parlophone 45 sounds ten times better. Thank goodness we'll always have the original tracks. George Martin did it right the first time. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Both albums are a disaster.
Giles has done it again. Only this time it's the worst yet. George Martin had it right the first time. Unfortunately his son didn't inherit his father's talent.
Eh?
@@goplad1what’s your talent? Lol trolling?
"and is this also a hint that they are going to re-release the remainder of The Beatle albums that have not been re-released already just to get yet another infusion of cash into the remaining Beatles estates? We don't know".
Well, they're all multi-millionaires, and what do multi-millionaires always want? More! Of course they will.