30 06 Springfield Nosler Brass
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- In this video we give look at 30 06 Springfield brass from Nosler. We look at how weight consistency of Nosler compares to Winchester, Remington, Hornady, and Federal. Case weight as well as internal case volume information is reviewed.
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The amount of work it takes to do something like this is pretty insane; thank you for doing this.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Last 50 round box of Nosler was spot on...weight was very close,flash holes deburred, cases were all a few thousands short but not too short. A few of the case necks were dinged. Necks were a little thick in places so neck turned a few thousands. The Hornady cases needed the full treatment, flash holes had to be demurred and trimmed...a little more variances in neck thicknesses... The nosler brass was very consistent in weight from lot to lot...There was considerable variance in weight in the Hornady brass from lot to lot but little variance in same lot, still very usable brass but I keep lots separate in Hornady brass
Bought my first dies in 1976. I have never seen more consistent brass (regardless of manufacturer). All brands have greatly improved over those years.
Beat me by a year, lmao!! Stay safe my friend!!!!
hey dude i love arm chair haters..if anyone has anything to complain about on this channel, go someplace else..im over 60 an been reloading 40 years, im still enjoying the education.. good job
The high cost of low cost brass...well said. Time is valuable. Eliminate variables from the start.
You get about 5 or 6 reloads out of Nosler brass before any malfunctions or anything might start happening. If you take that into account, then after purchasing the brass and the partition .308 bullets, you end up paying about .50 cents a round for 30-06. Mind you that the 50ct(count) brass is like $80, and the 50ct bullets are like $60. So that's not including powder and primers. Primers are about $200-$300 for 1,000 large rifle primers, and the powder is like RL22 for $150-300. There's 35,000 grains in a 5lb container of powder. A 30-06 180gr load will use about 63 grains per load. So each 5lb container of powder will load up about 555 rounds. So the powder alone is about .25-.60 cents per round. So at the low end, it's .45 cents per round of .30-06 just for the powder and primer. For the Nosler brass and partition bullet, it's about $2.80 per cartridge, and assuming you can get a full 5 reloads out of every brass of Nosler, it brings down the price of the brass to .35 cents a round but the bullet is still $1.20 a round. So you're looking at about $2.00 a round for Nosler reloads, at the best case scenario.
I always enjoy your videos and the thoroughness and detail you put into them!
Thank You. I am glad you enjoy the content.
I always love your videos. Please do a 150 and 165 bullet series with the 30-06. I love the 30-06 for deer hunting.
I have a couple out with the 150 speer gold dot already. Have more loaded just need to get to the range.
@@BoltActionReloading 165 gr Accubonds with IMR4350 make a wonderful combination.
Excellent! I just bought a box of 50 Nozler brass for .270 yesterday.
Good choice!
This was a very well-done video with lots of details, and much due diligence on your part! I've had NOSLER load me a couple of boxes of .270 Weatherby in 130 grain because what I purchased from Midway USA in 150 grain would not shoot accurately. I have to say that the quality is superb! I plan to purchase some 30 '06 brass and load up some BARNERS copper bullets, so thanks for all this information.
I bought 200 pieces of Nosler 300WM and it is fantastic. Got 200 Federal GMM in one batch of ammo also. But the Nosler is obviously a cut above.
I use alot of Nosler brass and it is good brass for the price. The only draw back is during load development they will stretch to slightly different lengths. As mentioned it takes a few times to get them to a trim length, but if you are doing development they will not all get there at the same time. Once you are good though, you are good.
So glad you threw other brass in the mix. Hornady brass is very available in my area so I was curious to see how it compared. Thank you
I'm building a 300 wsm, and just picked up 200 nosler brass. It's seams like top quality but man it's not cheap. But in that chambering to get top quality brass in my opinion I only have 2 choices norma brass and nosler.
You arent wrong. Any chance that ADG makes some?
@@BoltActionReloading I'm pretty sure they don't. But I am shooting atlas brass in one of my 22 creedmoors and having amazing results with it. You ever shoot rayners range just south of Cambridge Ohio?
I have not.
@@BoltActionReloading you're in central ohio right? It's a great place to shoot but they're closed now. Im next video will be a steel plate match there.
How long of a distance can you shoot there?
I purchased 2 boxes of 50 Nosler 7mm Rem mag brass. Looked for other makes but Lapua doesn't make it and you can't get Norma. I have been very happy with the Nosler Brass. Much more consistent than RP, WW, FED, and Hornady.
I recently bought some Nosler 6.5 Swede brass and I was pleasantly surprised. The quality of it was to me, better than the Lapua brass I have bought in the past. Starline is great for an american brand, but it's not Nosler. I don't factor brass into the cost of my ammunition. The average shooter, even if they buy factory Nosler or Lapua ammo, is likely going to let that brass hit the ground and forget about it... at that point it's free, and our brass after the first firing is the same way. It depreciates 100% after the first firing. By that logic, it pays to buy the best brass you can buy the first time around, because as you said, the high cost of low cost brass could end up costing you a crap ton of money in powder, primers, and bullets down the road trying to chase down that perfect load.
I often wonder about volume of case capacity when compared to other cases. If all the brass is not full length sized from the same die or fire formed and trimmed to the same length it can't possibly be accurate. I hope you get my drift on that. I do reload and I do know that every little thing helps tighten the groups neck turning, deburring the flash holes, trimming to the same length, bullet seating with a high-quality bullet seater, even primer pocket uniforming. Nice video and we all have to make our own choices when it comes to reloading. I myself ordered some 6.5 PRC in Nosler. I do hope they work out. I do hope my overall length is better than what you got with the 30-06. Only time will tell.
Lapua has 30-06 brass now, but the Nosler had good performance. I ended up with some pretty decent loads so I don't have anything to complain about. Good luck.
I thought I would piggy back onto this review and say that I absolutely got taken to the cleaners over 28 Nosler brass.! I paid an unbelievable $112 for 25 pieces of brass. That's about $4.50 per piece! And good luck finding a box of 20 loaded cartridges because it is a complete unicorn out there. And to add insult to injury, there have been several reports that 28 Nosler brass has very uneven neck thickness. But these are your choices if you want to shoot 28 Nosler. But I am glad that you had good luck with your Nosler brass. Did you happen to measure your neck thickness variation? If so I would like to know how things looked for 30-06. Thank you sir!
Hi Jeff, Since I released this video Lapua now makes 30-06 brass but you sometimes take what you can get. I don't have the brass in my possession any more so I am not sure that I will be able to provide any insight on it.
BAR
You need to round those numbers up. If the measured weights are accurate up to two decimals, any derived value is only that accurate too (at least that holds for the mean and std). So 180.87, 180.83 and 0.24 is all that’s relevant.
What do you think about Starline brass? I see they make 30-06
Thumbs up for you buddy.
That's pretty good information on nosler. To think I always used other brands over nosler when there just might be a gold mine right in front of me. I do have a question though, you have covered neck turning in the past with the 6.5 brass and did not see any change that you thought was noticeable. In my experience, I found the necks started to taper slightly, so would neck turning fix the inaccuracy and cut out the donut which may effect the velocities. I have not done tests on this yet but I do measure a taper. Shoulder neck junction area is thicker by 1-2 thou more than the case mouth area. Any experience with this? Cheers
Starline makes 3006 brass now.
I havent had the best luck with it in 6.5 CM, I wanted to stick to something I knew would work.
@@BoltActionReloading I have some Starline brass in 7mm08 and it has really performed nicely.
Nosler is the best .300 Win Mag brass as well and by far.
I like norma for that too. Though some claim they are one in the same.
2:22 it's out now at Grafs
Crazy, I signed up for new caliber notification and it wasn't on the list. Great option for sure.
@@BoltActionReloading I was on the list too, and didn't get a notification, like specifically for 30-06. Crickets.
Alpha, Petersen or Lapua. Anything else is an exercise in frustration
ADG
Not available for my moose hunting rifle (.300 H & H), I wish Lapua made brass for .270 Win (my sheep hunting rifle)
Star line is good brass
Do you have the case head dimension for the Nosler brass at its largest point?
Hey buddy I'm having trouble trying to decide on with style of Berger bullets to get for 6.5creed, the 140gr Hybrid or Target VLD. I just got ahold of 4lbs H4350 from Midway and my main loads with RL16 consists of the Sierra 142gr MK so I wanna get a good load developed with H4350 by using Berger bullets but I don't know which type to get.
The vld style seems like people either jam them into the lands or jump a long ways. There isnt a big bc difference between the 2 so I would personally go with the hybrid target, unless you are loading for a custom chamber.
@@BoltActionReloading Thanks for the info and quick response because I'm about to order another 8lbs of that H4350 seeing that it's finally back in stock
They have the new berger long range hybrid target too. They are 144 gr with a little higher bc. I need to do some more formal testing but might be a option worth trying.
@@BoltActionReloading that's sounds awesome, I'll be looking forward to it
Peterson does make it just not allot of the time
Hi Chris, It wasn't released when this video was originally made.
Your OCD should be happy with 49 cases. 49 is a square number.
I believe Nosler brass is made by Norma
I have heard rumors of that, not sure though. Either way both are good.
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