5 Things We Wish We Knew When We First Planted Papayas
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- Aloha! In this video Paulina and I discuss the mistakes we had made in the past planting papayas and what we are doing now to get the results we wish we had the first time. Please let us know if this video has helped you in anyway and also if you think there is something we forgot please point it out for others to learn from. Mahalo for watching and have a great day!
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-Jaboticaba
-Abiu
-Black sapote
-White sapote
-Chico sapote
-Mamey sapote
-Durian
-Surinam cherry
-Ice cream bean
Cuttings:
-Tongan spinach
-Purple sweet potato
-Cassava
-Taro
-Katuk
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-Thai basil
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Planting papaya is a circle of 6ft diameter works well. you can have 4-5 plants in that circle. in center of circle have a pit of 3ft diameter n 3ft depth and fill it with organic material to decompose, this will act as source of fertilizer for the plants. in the understorey once can grow ginger, turmeric, taro. In the same way one can have banana circle, just that one has to manage the new pups by transplanting.
You can prune the top to stop the growth and have short fruit producing trees. I've done this many times.
Yes you can, but the trunks are hallow so you need to put something over it so water doesn’t collect in there. In my opinion it’s better just to start a new one but if it’s working for you that’s great! 😊
@@OffGridHawaii - The trunks get thicker and stronger if you prune the top. Try it on one this year. You won't regret it. And you will love how long it will live and produce fruit.
Oh I know what your talking about now. I thought you meant cut it after it’s grown tall. You’re saying prune the top when it’s still short yeah??
I’ve seen ones that grow just like trees with huge trunks and tons of branches.
@@OffGridHawaii Would be interesting to let one grow and do it's thing, not cut it down after two, three years but see how big they really get.
you two charming papaya planting and producing professors are a big help for us here in florida. our present consists of 2 plants, 4 months in ground, and zero knowledge but now we're better prepared so thanks so much!
were you able to produce any fruit?
Do you have a video on how you started your off the grid life? From finances,finding and buying the land, to all the way to establishing your off the grid life. This is a very desirable lifestyle
Cut paw paw plant back and place empty can on top of stump. Tree will regrowth. Also bury a small chunk of concret/broken brick in with the plant for the lime.
Thank you for sharing your experiences! I really appreciate you sharing what didn’t work and what you learned!
Happy to help 😊
You are doing this great! Love it when the two of you are on film!
I love your videos. Keep posting.
Thanks Alexandra!
Wow, super good video. Very informative. Thanks guys and great job.
Hi guys was very nice meeting you at Daiichi Ramen in Hilo in our first day in Hilo, we add raw fish to our papaya tree , it grows like crazy. Nice video. Aloha!!
Great tip! Nice meeting you too 😊
Raw fish? How about the scales guts etc
So appreciate how much I am learning from you guys!
Yet another awesome video thanks guys, Jill still laughing over the chicken dance, I'll bet the organic omelettes awesome with a little bit of vegetables and your barbecue sauce still remember that making me start to laugh you guys are great keep it up. Paul and Jill
Haha, Pollina is so funny! Dance with the chicken song is awesome! Again, thank you for the information. I was having trouble with my papaya trees. This should help a lot. I would love to see your whole garden! Good job!
Happy to help! Thanks again for the poha berry, it’s doing great!
Oh and good luck! So jelly!
Love watching the videos you two come up with. Food, fellowship, and....chicken dance😃🌈🤙
Watching this makes me feel soooo baked. :)
Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks for watching!
I love the friendliness between you two.
Keep it up!
It was the dancing from the rooster that forged me to subscribe! lol!~Keep Sprouting💯
you guys are amazing! I watched you in oregon to give me hope to one day see/move to Hawaii. Now im in Maui growing food and learning from you guys
Yay, we missed you Paulina, welcome back! I needed this video. My Papayas all suck.
Happy to help!
You guys are fun to watch.
I love your videos. Keep posting
Thanks for explaining why I have different shaped of fruits!
Awesome video, will finally be in Hawaii full time. Cant wait to start a tiny orchard.
Nice 👍🏽
Looooooveeeee everything. We would like to see the Lilikoi'i, Mango's, banana's, and any root vegetables! Thanks for all of your hard work. Much love from Prague, Czech Republic!
Oh! Also your starfruit please and thanks!
First here, the avocado tree is so full beautiful fruit trees
Wandering how to get there
Most important for papayas is to have great drainage. Papaya quickly gets root rot in wet soil
Great tip! Thanks for sharing 😊
I had Papaya growing in a planter. But it soon died. Probably was the drainage. Thanks.
@@M3LTUP If temp of soil drops below 50F and soil is soggy - papaya dies within 48 hours. Out here in California, a lot of people lose their papayas in winter when they plant them in native clay soil. Cactus mix works very well for papays in a container. I grow them on old compost piles or mounds.
I liked the vid ! Keep em coming guys and good luck
Thanks! 😊
I did learn. Thank you. We own a place in Hawaii acres. And really didn't have this knowledge.. mahalos 🤙🤙🤙🤙
That’s great! Thanks for commenting 😊
I like how comfortably awkward they are with each other.
Always love your videos! It's fun to see how things grow in Hawaii compared to Kentucky! My garden is towards the end , falls almost here!...p.s.
Omg Paulina dancing to the chicken clucks. I’m dying 🤣 I want to see all the fruit trees and plants. Might have to do multiple parts to fit it all in. Or just do what u like. Either way it’s gonna be epic...EPIC
The chicken dance seems to be a big hit 😂
Thank you so much for this video! I learned alot. The chicken dance was a bonus and made this very entertaining!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the dance 🐓
You cant beat papaya as a fruit tree. Fast growing, large fruit. But you have to find a way around the fruit fly...
How fun are you 2 omg!
Mine use to grow like Crazy when I lived in Lower Louisiana --- I buried left-over Fish Parts in holes about 2 feet away from the Trunk, they loved that -- I did nothing more cause we got plenty of rain where i lived. Nothing but H20 and Fish left-overs.....
Nice 👍
You guys are insane, love it! LOL
So I think rather than asking for suggestions, you should just maybe make a list of all of the different plants in your farmstead. Make a nice tour of all of the most interesting and helpful and unique plants that you like, but have that entire list down in the descriptionand suggest that if there is something that has not been discussed in the video already, but is in the list, to mention that for your next video
Love you guys!
Aw thanks 😉
@@OffGridHawaii You're welcome :)
If you get a chance add Yacons to your crop to get added benefits. The info has been great and will help me.
Thank you for sharing.
Papayas are a wonderful fruit.
May the Lord make enjoyable your time on that beautiful land. I wish I can have in ga.🦁
Oh, and papayas are a herbaceous large plant, not a actual tree. It’s similar to a banana, and that’s one of the reasons that it can only grow in tropical and subtropical regions reliably. but that is also why papayas and bananas can grow so much in just a year
Awesome video thank you all . Will you make one on fig tree if possible?
it's said that when you pull the young plants (4-5 inches tall) from dirt, if it has a long root stock, as opposed to a root bundle, it's a male, and do not replant it.
New to your channel and love your all videos
Thanks so much 😊
Awesome, happy to hear you’re gonna be able to share more of the food forest with us! I’m sure you will enjoy being able to spend more time on the land Paulina.
I would love to see the Mac nuts in the tour. And Avocados if you guys have some! There’s so many varieties...
Great😊 thanks for the request!!
Great video and info on papaya. Good to see you guys together in the video. Have you planted any avocado and if so any fruit. If you do a property your, I'd like to see the lilikoi wall in it's entirety. If you could also show where your nursery of where you start your plants. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks! Funny you mentioned the lilikoi wall because it just fell down today 🤦♂️
Love the chicken dance...LOL
Thank you so much
Aloha! You have been so helpful in my small food forest journey. I started with 2 papaya trees. I’m now up to 10! I ran into some maggots inside a few of my papayas. I’m worried this is going to ruin the entire harvest! What do I do? Please help! I’m on the west side on big island Hi. Mahalo for any help on how to deal with this.
Very informative 🌱 What do you guys use for drinking water? Rain from the barrel? Do you filter it? Any new solar updates? ✌️
We get drinking water from the local spring, and collect rain water for showers and washing dishes. Same solar set although we are thinking about upgrading soon so we can run a freezer. Thanks for the comment 😊
video of your native forest would be cool.
Could you espalier a papaya tree? Basically train it to grow sideways once it reaches a certain height? To be able to reach all the fruit?
I love watching you videos as it reminds me of a holiday I had on the islands a few years ago 😍 I think I’ll adopt Paulina’s dance when my chickens cluck from now on 😁 After watching this video I am going to try and grow 3 papaya trees, I’m not sure how they will go as I live in South Australia, the summer gets very hot and dry, would I need to water it a lot to keep it alive?
😄 you may have to water them if you have an extended drought. Lots of mulch covering the soil will help tremendously. We had one drought that lasted two months last year and everything survived without watering.
Can they still be grown for fruiting at 1700-1800 ft like up in Eden Rock?
Yay orchard tour! I want to see... the whole orchard! =) I'm particularly interested in how and where you compost. Did you have any trouble with the wild pig's lately?
😃 if we showed the whole orchard the video would be two hours long lol. These days the chickens are doing all the composting we just throw everything in their cage and they take care of it. We only had pig damage one night since the first episode. I think the dog scared it away cause it never came back.
@@OffGridHawaii So your dog(what's his name again?) did do his job after all it seems. That's good to hear. Isn't it better to age the compost, to mature the manure so to speak? Take the edge off a bit. Fresh manure can be too strong sometimes, especially on your delicates(plants i mean).
It’s a deep mulch system so the finished compost goes to the bottom. Still experimenting with it but seems to be working good so far.
We will probably do a whole separate video on the chickens 🐔
@@OffGridHawaii I'd like that. Especially if Paulina does the funny dance again!
Thanks for another great video! I have a concern and am wondering if you can shed any light. I am planning on moving over in April 2020. I stay with a friend in HPP when I visit and Papayas appear to ben in abundance there. His are on very tall trees but uses a picker to grab them and twist them off. I have looked for property between HPP and Fern Acres. It appears there is an elevation line that Papayas (and many other plants I want to grow) stop growing. I did not notice any Papayas on any of the properties I looked at in the higher elevation. Does that sound right to you? Please forgive my ignorance but I am just learning. Do you know your elevation? I have tried to find information online about what grows where but have not found anything specific as of yet. Again, thanks for all your videos. They are all so informative and entertaining at the same time. You two are adorable together.
The general rule here is that you can grow just about anything in this area under 1000ft. with the exception of a few things. That being said all of the same things including papaya may still grow above 1000ft but maybe not as good. The higher up the worse it gets. I don’t have an exact cut off point as to where they stop growing and it even gets more complicated with different microclimates, but I hope this somewhat answers your question. 😊
@@OffGridHawaii Thanks for your reply! My wife and I are coming for October and November to look at properties and this was something I was wondering about. I was looking at one property at ~1065' so that is right around the limit.
I love you two, you're so AWESOME, thank you very much for the tips on the Papayas, I have a large one, about 5 feet tall, but it desperately need a bigger pot or planted in the ground, the only thing a neighbor told me was to water it very much, now thanks to you guys I know a bit more and a second Papaya sprouted, but its a baby barely 12 inches tall. Uprated, subbed and so curious about your homestead, in particular if you could do a video about your Jackfruit trees! As for the Chicken Dance, totally IRIE and FUN, thanks again and greetings from Mexico! :)
you can make pickled green papaya, green papaya salad, to up your consumption.
Your Both very funny. My friend is growing in Florida to sale she told me to only use the bottom seeds of a papaya and scrape them into water what floating is no hood so take out then lay out and take a gray seed's to plant and toss the rest. After she waits tell leaf she digs and cuts maine root back and plants two together for support but she is growing short tree's . Have you done this and is she right? It was easy for me to mango by taking out of shell and plant. I planted pineapple guava and i have three years left tell fruit. As i so need to eat and wash my hair to keep.
The chicken dance was amazing Pualina it needs to go viral. Lolz thank for the info on papayas. Why dont you guys try to grow mangosteen?
We have one mangosteen tree 😊
Wow I wish I knew all of those plants on a first name basis! I love that you don’t have any bare soil…same way I feel. I love mangoes, lychee, loquats, bananas, persimmons…never met a fruit I didn’t like. Do u grow moringa oleifera? I have several and am growing more for my bunnies. I love the background noise.
We do have some moringa growing ! 🏝🐰
Hi, thank you ,I do learn a lot from your video but still no fixes my problem, please help me what to do, I planting about two months, I bought from a place, it looks like the leafs are burning with the sun the temperature is been between 60-70 san diego CA, I put an ombrella because the yellow leaf, I do noticed some new leaf growing on the trunk but the ones on top are dying, help please
Can any help me my plant has curl leaves what should I do can I save it
I'd love to see videos about how to build stuff. Didn't you guys help build a house on your property?
Not really building anything at the moment but will definitely keep that in mind. 😊
The soil in my yard is not very fertile, so what kind of fertilizer should i use to grow big papayas, besides using chicken manure which is quite expensive in my area - should i use general purpose fertilizer 16-16-16?
Hi Mike, this may be a late reply but an alternative is cow/horse/steer manure will also work. The biggest thing you can do for papaya is mulch heavily with organic matter (grass, bark, wood chips, leaves) as it breaks down it’ll make your soil fertile without the need for fertilizer. Also make sure the roots gets good drainage because their roots rots easily. Good luck!
I have a 5 year old rollinia in Houston, TX that has flowered once but that is it. If yours is still kicking, give us an update please.
You got it!
Hey Michael and Paulina, When my wife and I lived on the Big Island, we grew papayas and I did something that you didn't mention. To keep my papaya trees from getting too high and hard to pick the fruits, I used to cut off the tops and let them side branch. I would cover the cut part with a coffee can to keep the tree from rotting. Have you guys tried this?
Yes we’ve heard of this. My one concern is that the fruit won’t get as big. What is your experience with the size of the fruits?
@@OffGridHawaii I think you might be right, because some of the trees that I cut, got the same size fruit and some were a little smaller.
Similarly, you can plant papaya cuttings for dwarf fast producing papayas. I saw a nursery in Australia doing it
@@tdh7865 From what parts of the tree do you select the cuttings
the little red chilly peppers ,i want see them there, mine never produce fruit ,2 years from seed indoors and out ,what do you think wont work in michigan,got them from philippines
🤔 not sure ours got fruits pretty quick. Maybe try add a little phosphorus?
Thanks
U bet! 🤙🏾🤙🏾
Nice video. How long it would take before papaya to flower?
Maybe 4-6 months
@@OffGridHawaii Thank you !!
I emailed you about some trees, great job on the vids
Stonnercat3?
@@OffGridHawaii yes, that's me
Thanks for the quick response 👍
Have you thought of pruning them. Top them off so to speak. The trunks will get thicker. And keeping it topped off it, will still grow but stay at a shorter height , so you can reach the fruit easier. A shorter papaya tree is not unheard of. It will make for a stronger tree.
We did get one comment earlier saying to do just that. I guess my only concern is that the fruits might not get as big but I’d be willing to experiment. 🤙🏽
This is what I came for! Do you actually just lop the top off and they will reshoot?
lol, love that chicken dance lol
I chopped my papaya and it grew back, was shorter and I can reach the fruit. I plant the seeds in pots and grow them over the winter in my enclosed porch. Springtime I plant out and they have time to fruit here in central Florida. The roots grow massive in the ground. I'm hoping when they die off this winter the roots rot and feed the soil.
Thanks for the info on the flowers.
Do you know the green garden guy? Been watching him for years.
Nice 👍🏽 yeah I’ve gone to his house to buy some plants before.
Ciao vi seguo dal italia😉 bel video mi piace.....1 consiglio io cio 8piante di papaya come concime gli metto compost e letame e buono? Grazie a voi
Urine is an excellent fertilizer for papaya. Also, plant beans or peas at the base to climb the stem of the papaya, and to add nitrogen to the soil.
Urine and other high nitrogen products are good but I have found that they need the other macros as well P&K
@@OffGridHawaii urine is a complete fertilizer with all three components, when it's diluted. You can always mix it with ash to increase potassium. My papayas thrive on mulch and urine with very little else, in horrible baren clay.
The ratio of urine is generally 11:2:4 so way high on the N. Papaya prefer a more even ratio. So by adding the mulch you are evening out the ratio because mulch is high in P&K.
Mulch plus urine is great 👍🏽 👍🏽
@@OffGridHawaii exactly. Mulch makes a big difference.
But only urine is extremely good for papaya too. Not sure if you've tried it, but I would encourage you to do so. Our papaya fertilized with only diluted urine (no mulch at that time) were nearly 10x larger and considerably greener and more resilient to drought, than their siblings that did not receive the urine (but received everything else the same.
Yeah there are a couple right around the house that I pee on a lot and they do ok. Remember we are on rock here so way different.
What are the prices in supermarket for a papaya is on the Big island?
No idea, we never buy them at the supermarket. Farmers markets sometimes sell them 3-5 for $5 depending on size and variety. They’re one of the cheaper fruits found for sale and they’re always in season.
👍👍💓
you the best
How much of your love is real? How do we know y'all not acting to each other and for us viewers
Perhaps you should consider growing the red lady or Dwarf Waimanalo varieties. Both have very low growing fruit. Seeds are inexpensive at ebay.
Nice! the height doesn’t really bother us but it would be great to grow more varieties 🤙🏽
specifics please about fertilisers such as magnesium salts say indoor temperate climate UK
papaya seeds can germinate from a couple weeks to several months.
How can i tell when my jack fruit is ripe & ready to pick?
We go by smell and feel. If it smells very sweet and is squishy and turning dark then we pick it. We're still learning as we go but so far this seems to be the best way to know. We've picked some too early and it was sad. We picked one that had turned black and was cracked open and it tasted the best!
Cant you make all plants female by trimming taproot of seedling before planting
that chicken dance... 🤣
Mine froze back one year and changed its sex.
I highly highly recommend ordering seeds from aloha seed...the genetics are incredible and you wont waste time with questionable genetics from fruit. We have dwarf trees with monster fruits.
Good to know!
Will they send seeds to The Gambia or UK?
I don't know if it's your papaya breed, but it seems like not enough sun (?) because it's growing tall and leaves are far apart.
Homemade compost & manure is best
Would u send seeds of jack fruit and star fruit
The Boy is gonna snap. Almost a gun point.
😅
what about water ..... ?? How much ??
good thing is papaya produce very quickly.
if your not fruitarian do you plan on growing the other foods you eat also? i feel like im going to go through the same thing lol.. growing and harvest beans and rice would suck so much tho..
Most of the food we eat from the land is root crops. Cassava, taro, and sweet potato 😊
OffGridHawaii oh ok cool do you judt eat it plain? How come fruitarian didnt work out? Thankyou :)
The cassava and taro I usually mash and the sweet potato I like to cut them Small and cook with a little olive oil. As for not being fruitarian I guess the short answer is it worked for us in many ways but not in every way.
@@OffGridHawaii i think mcdougall says oil is poison! oh so it worked.. but it didnt hahaha ;p how so? sorry for nagging lol :p
Have you seen Mcdougal lately? He has lost his mind! I wouldn’t listen to anything that guy says. Honestly I wouldn’t worry too much about why it didn’t work out for us because it was different for both of us, meaning it might be different for you or anyone else. The important thing is you listening to your own body and if something doesn’t feel right, don’t just keep blindly following that path. For both of us it was health concerns though, if that helps any.
Do you eat your papaya flowers? Just boil them for a bit and then throw them in the wok. Apparently its good natural malaria protection too
We have not tried that! Do they taste good?
@@OffGridHawaii so good! They go great with finely sliced banana flower hearts and kangkung. All stir fried in a flavour paste of chilli, plenty of garlic and a few candle nuts, along with a few lemongrass stalks and kaffir lime leaves 😙👌
Maybe we’ll try it when we’re feeling adventurous! 😊 sounds really good and fancy
@@OffGridHawaii it's a West Papuan dish. So a little fancy but also a typical staple meal for others.
How to save my papaya plant from getting rot from root
May need better drainage soil
In your video you said the flowers are male papaya flower and your correct. Male papaya flowers never grow into fruits so you should just discard it and regrow another papaya tree.