You can stuff the tire with a mixture of straw and manure. As the manure and straw rot together it will create some natural heat all by its self and help keep the water warmer longer. 100% natural and next spring toss the manure in the garden for fertilizer.
I was about to post that and saw you comment so I just thumbs up your post instead. I also was going to say Manure and Straw but it can be anything that mixes nitrogen and carbon.. just shovel out from under the roosting bar.. what ever bedding you use is perfect for inside the tire. The tire was a great idea, I had been burying buckets with manure/bedding around it. The tire makes it a a lot less work so I am glad he made the video.
I've had great success filling the tire with rocks. They absorb the heat and slowly radiate it out all night. This system also works great for a planter. Fill the tire with rocks, fill the centre cavity with soil and your done. The soils stays warm all night long and the results are amazing. I had various vegetables planted in tires that yielded almost double what a normal garden plant would.
Back in the 1960s, my dad used something similar in our chicken coop, but he used an electric heating blanket to wrap around the base of the watering bucket instead of insulation. He drilled a hole in the bottom of the coop and ran the wiring under the floor, so the chickens wouldn't peck at it. Even in sub-zero weather, that water was always warm, and the chickens would sometimes be found laying up against the tire because it was really toasty. He never put any water out in the open pen (which was a fenced 1/4-acre plot), because he felt that if they were thirsty, they knew where the water was - and it worked quite well . . . up until the time came to "process" them all (which was kind of a shocker to a young boy who had never witnessed a "mass extinction" of that sort).
That is brilliant. We got temps here in NC that went down to 7 degrees and our chicken water kept freezing. I put a waterer in the mobile coop and buried it in the bedding and it stayed thawed, so I was thinking of building some box with insulation in it. The tire is a much better idea. Thanks for sharing!
You know that's a great idea. Gonna rig one up. Does not freeze here during the day usually but this would probably keep our chicks water liquid over night. We are in mid South Carolina. Maybe fill it with gravel and concrete so it can bank up some heat during the day. Might go all night without freezing.
I agree, great idea, I have large truck tires (48 in. tall) that I will put in the pen for bulk solar heating. I have spare tires laying around for the waters. Just had to buy the black stock feeders and a few balls.
Windchill doesn’t affect water, only human perception of cold. Water still freezes at 32. It could be 33 degrees with a strong wind producing windchill of 15 degrees, the water won’t freeze.
I saw another video where floating a bottle of high salt content water was used to keep the water from freezing. You should check it out. Perhaps, even try placing bags filled with salt water in place of or in with the insulation. That was my first thought when I saw what you did there with the pan and tire. I'm raising hogs, so I'll need a much bigger tire! Thanks for showing this! I'm excited to put all my newfound knowledge to the test. Now I just need to find a video with auto-fill solutions, and how to keep my water hose from freezing. After all this work, I hope my piggy pigs are happy, healthy, and tasty 😉
@@julenachname1138 soda bottle with salt water in the water and it will work The bottle floats moves around which doesn't allow the water to freeze He almost has it.
Up in the Laurentians North of Montreal, there was a guy who planted two derelict buses on the shore of a lake, and used stacked tires and debris fill for insulation (looked awful), lasted not one winter...he was on the North facing shore, just yards from a 4 mile x 1 mile lake, open to the winds, he had also cut down all the trees around the buses (for wood I assume)...the winds across that lake in February would freeze anything in minutes....he had an idea, of sorts, maybe if he had been on the South facing shore?
hell in michigan when we get 20 below winter even the electric heaters freeze solid that might work well as a fall waterer where we average around 30 deg fahrenheit at night 40 in the day. during winter we use lp ,gasoline or wood heaters to keep the critters warm
I'm in Northern Michigan and I don't even bother with all that. I have two waterers. I take one in the house with me every day. It thaws as they're drinking out of the other one and twice per day I switch them out. They're drinking just as much as they do during the warmer months so it's a good working system. I do the same for my rabbits. The goats' buckets too. I just switch them out with a thawed bucket. I don't have a lot of animals so it works for me.
What if you build a small green house to cover that? It will block the wind and still generate heat even though one side is compromised for entrance. Do a square house and wrap plastic starting from the center of one side for 360 and extending/overlapping that plastic to the end. At the overlapped end, just spread the plastic apart for the entrance. Use a foot long 2x4 as an entrance stabilizer so the wind will not affect the entrance.
Not a bad recycling method. I generally use my tires for... eh more.. temperate things.. but certainly a thought. Where I am temps unusually are moderate enough that containers only freeze for 1-3 days at a time. Which in that case I just bust them as a walk by. Seeing as my little flock has shrunk for honestly reasons past me.. I've put more time towards caring for them. Thought my cocky rooster still insists on roosting in a tree, next to my coop. 🤣 I even cut the limb off he was roosted on with a sawsall and he managed to find a way into a higher one later but was alone the Hens could no longer get that high and went back to the coop. When temps got sub-zero he preferred the coop with a heat lamp which I ran until it got back to at-least 20 in the night.
Tires get recycled in most places in the US as they won't decompose in land fill. Tire stores do get charged per-tire for pick up service, they pass that on to customers in the form of a charge, ussually environmental hazard fee because they can not through them in the dumpster.
@@sirrobyn0yes but to clarify, they charge the person who is replacing their tires, not the one picking them up to use them on a farm. I built a greenhouse in the side of a hill and used about a hundred used tires and the tire shop was happy to give them to me because he charged the customer $2 per tire for a disposal fee therefore he put about $200 in his pocket and I got them for free.
@@PrinceCbassYep that's true I built a shooting range out back and the used tire shop gave me all the tires I wanted for free and even let me pick me tires 😅.
I use a soda bottle half fill it with alcohol or cooking oil. Neither of those will freeze and the chickens/wind keep the bottle moving and the water around it a degree or 2 warmer. It won't stop it from Freezing if its cold enuff but it does delay it a bit. Happy chicken keeping
Do you think you could pack your tire with the leaves from around your property and under the bowl?? Does the dog ever go and try and get his toy back?!?!Lol! Great idea! God Bless!
I just bought a water heater designed to keep your chicken water perfect in the winter. Yes, it was electric, so I'm a big spender. The girl's water never froze.
Please remember micro-organisms that do the composting need air to live & that manure sealed inside the tire will block off their air.... I had an aggressive vine closed off sides of my compost pile and it turns very foul with a different type of very unhealthy micro-bacteria that no one would want by their livestock :(
You know wmaybe some spray foam inside the tire. Some bored on the bottom or insulation board on the bottom and throw in one of those. Hot hands and then put the water on top. And that should hold that heat in there pretty good. That's what I was going to try this winter.
I do think that is a good idea but the final result may depend more on your climate. Winter clouds/lack of sun and continuous freezing overnight temps are tough to keep water thawed without electric, but it has been pretty dependable for us.
Burying a 6' section of concrete storm drain on end with a 2" concrete bottom will hold enough water to keep an insulated smaller bowl sitting on top at ground level ice free.
Years ago in Greenfield Missouri in the deep Ozarks my two uncle's married two of my mom's sisters to water cattle in the winter...in a large metal watering trough they would lay a cleaned trunk of a tree about a foot across; they put one end in to the bottom of the tank and the other end would lay out opposite side (remember I was a kid) seems three feet, so instead of chopping ice they could stir the water and it never got frozen . Now rancher and farms have electric water tanks for the winter.
Sounds like your aunts got a very RAW DEAL! All they are are Water Bearers?? This sounds more like the Old Testament times. Do they have to sleep in the barn with the cattle?🐂🐃 "They are treated well and only beaten when necessary."
Ummmm. No. Wind can cause freezing water, soil, mulch, pretty much anything that retains water, if the right combination of wind speed and real temperatures exists.
I would think that no insulation would be better, because the warmth from the solar heated black tire would warm the pail and water. Both ways would work I suppose. I'll have to experiment. Thanks for the tire idea.
@@dansbarbershop Well they make some that use very little electricity. The blue ones I have aren't so bad. How much electricity do you think they use? Not Much.. On a update, Mine did freeze up when the temp was like. O1' last week or so. That was after days of it. It was record cold all over the Country. But in normal North East winters I'm Usally good all winter.
The problem I have with open waterers is , baby chickens drawn. I free range too, and I think its important for babies and moms to run around and eat from the forest ground.
I've used this very same waterer~same pan in a tire~for the past 13 yrs and never had a single chick drown in it. Also use a heated dog bowl in the winter months for the chickens and never had a frostbit wattle resulting from it. Baby chicks usually aren't drinking from the waterers at all if they have a mama, as all their moisture comes from the bugs and such that they eat.
@@bkershaccount The ground is where the supply of warmth is, and it will rise and warm the bottom of the water pan. Unless your in a area where there is permafrost, then i guess you could dig the hole below that line.
@@murldewaynegreen deal with the neighbor and spare the poor dog, rat shot or rock salt work well when it penetrates the skin, but doesn't kill the dog!!
@@murldewaynegreen geez, get a hobby other than killing innocent dogs are just pick up the poop yourself and be a good human being...your neighbor being an idiot does not mean you should be one too.
You can stuff the tire with a mixture of straw and manure. As the manure and straw rot together it will create some natural heat all by its self and help keep the water warmer longer. 100% natural and next spring toss the manure in the garden for fertilizer.
Most excellent bro! 👏👏
I was about to post that and saw you comment so I just thumbs up your post instead. I also was going to say Manure and Straw but it can be anything that mixes nitrogen and carbon.. just shovel out from under the roosting bar.. what ever bedding you use is perfect for inside the tire. The tire was a great idea, I had been burying buckets with manure/bedding around it. The tire makes it a a lot less work so I am glad he made the video.
Now this is why I read the comments. Thanks for the extra tip that I actually think that would work. 👍
Good idea
I've had great success filling the tire with rocks. They absorb the heat and slowly radiate it out all night. This system also works great for a planter. Fill the tire with rocks, fill the centre cavity with soil and your done. The soils stays warm all night long and the results are amazing. I had various vegetables planted in tires that yielded almost double what a normal garden plant would.
Ty, very plausible information!
A 50 lb mineral lick tub fits perfectly in a 17" tire. I've been doing this for 10 years.
Back in the 1960s, my dad used something similar in our chicken coop, but he used an electric heating blanket to wrap around the base of the watering bucket instead of insulation. He drilled a hole in the bottom of the coop and ran the wiring under the floor, so the chickens wouldn't peck at it. Even in sub-zero weather, that water was always warm, and the chickens would sometimes be found laying up against the tire because it was really toasty. He never put any water out in the open pen (which was a fenced 1/4-acre plot), because he felt that if they were thirsty, they knew where the water was - and it worked quite well . . . up until the time came to "process" them all (which was kind of a shocker to a young boy who had never witnessed a "mass extinction" of that sort).
Wait what ? You didn't ride down to the local Wal-Mart or Safeway store to purchase said items? 🤔 😳😳😳
I thought all said items came from such stores.
AWESOME! Short, sweet and to-the-point! Thank you for posting :-)
Added tip dig a hole about 18 inches deep under the tire this lets warmer air rise from undergrond to help keep it thawed
That is brilliant. We got temps here in NC that went down to 7 degrees and our chicken water kept freezing. I put a waterer in the mobile coop and buried it in the bedding and it stayed thawed, so I was thinking of building some box with insulation in it. The tire is a much better idea. Thanks for sharing!
Wow this idea makes good common sense! I'm going to give it a try as we do get a little cold weather! God bless you and your family!👍
why not put some bubble wrap on the ground under the tire to insulate the bottom of the pan from the cold ground?
That’s what I was thinking.
The earth below creates geothermal warming like a green house.
You know that's a great idea. Gonna rig one up. Does not freeze here during the day usually but this would probably keep our chicks water liquid over night. We are in mid South Carolina. Maybe fill it with gravel and concrete so it can bank up some heat during the day. Might go all night without freezing.
I agree, great idea, I have large truck tires (48 in. tall) that I will put in the pen for bulk solar heating. I have spare tires laying around for the waters. Just had to buy the black stock feeders and a few balls.
Tractor Supply has the dishes that are designed to fit inside of tires.
I made the same water heater ,works great minus 31 windchill here last day or so in nb canada
Windchill doesn’t affect water, only human perception of cold. Water still freezes at 32. It could be 33 degrees with a strong wind producing windchill of 15 degrees, the water won’t freeze.
@@Skashoon wind does affects water, makes freezing happen faster, speeds it up. Counter acts the warming from the Earth in the Sun.
I saw another video where floating a bottle of high salt content water was used to keep the water from freezing. You should check it out. Perhaps, even try placing bags filled with salt water in place of or in with the insulation. That was my first thought when I saw what you did there with the pan and tire. I'm raising hogs, so I'll need a much bigger tire! Thanks for showing this! I'm excited to put all my newfound knowledge to the test. Now I just need to find a video with auto-fill solutions, and how to keep my water hose from freezing. After all this work, I hope my piggy pigs are happy, healthy, and tasty 😉
Does not work...tried it
If you watch it all the way through the guy does say it will freeze over just not as quickly so it saves you running out there as much.
Bury water line to frost line, use toilet tank filler for water level
@@julenachname1138 soda bottle with salt water in the water and it will work
The bottle floats moves around which doesn't allow the water to freeze
He almost has it.
@@idamcneill8005 Frost line?
This is AWESOME!!! Thank you for posting
Up in the Laurentians North of Montreal, there was a guy who planted two derelict buses on the shore of a lake, and used stacked tires and debris fill for insulation (looked awful), lasted not one winter...he was on the North facing shore, just yards from a 4 mile x 1 mile lake, open to the winds, he had also cut down all the trees around the buses (for wood I assume)...the winds across that lake in February would freeze anything in minutes....he had an idea, of sorts, maybe if he had been on the South facing shore?
Thank you, simple and practical.
hell in michigan when we get 20 below winter even the electric heaters freeze solid that might work well as a fall waterer where we average around 30 deg fahrenheit at night 40 in the day.
during winter we use lp ,gasoline or wood heaters to keep the critters warm
I'm in Northern Michigan and I don't even bother with all that. I have two waterers. I take one in the house with me every day. It thaws as they're drinking out of the other one and twice per day I switch them out. They're drinking just as much as they do during the warmer months so it's a good working system. I do the same for my rabbits. The goats' buckets too. I just switch them out with a thawed bucket. I don't have a lot of animals so it works for me.
That'd be a great waterer for IN the coop too! :) THANKS for sharing! :)
Super video, thanks for taking the time to share with us!
Simple, forthright. Thanks.
Fantastic information, thank you. 👏👏👏
What if you build a small green house to cover that? It will block the wind and still generate heat even though one side is compromised for entrance. Do a square house and wrap plastic starting from the center of one side for 360 and extending/overlapping that plastic to the end. At the overlapped end, just spread the plastic apart for the entrance. Use a foot long 2x4 as an entrance stabilizer so the wind will not affect the entrance.
Someone on the tube uses plant heat mats in a small outdoor greenhouse. When he used a meter to figure out cost was 7 cents /day.
@@poa2.0surface77 God bless you and yours.
My chickens would peck holes in the plastic.
Am wondering when that heavy wet snow falls 8 "+ deep, as it does here won't the plastic house be crushed down?
pack the tire with damp dead leaves or straw.
as plants rot they give off warmth.
In missouri this will help but also is NOT fool proof.
Good idea I’m going to try this today
Compost gets very warm as it's composting. I'll be adding some manure to the straw and maybe dig out under the tire a bit and add more compost.
Ty! We must be inventive and resourceful!
It's revolutionary! My garsh!
A time saver!
I'm going to do the tire trick tomorrow for my chickens
Not a bad recycling method. I generally use my tires for... eh more.. temperate things.. but certainly a thought. Where I am temps unusually are moderate enough that containers only freeze for 1-3 days at a time. Which in that case I just bust them as a walk by. Seeing as my little flock has shrunk for honestly reasons past me.. I've put more time towards caring for them. Thought my cocky rooster still insists on roosting in a tree, next to my coop. 🤣 I even cut the limb off he was roosted on with a sawsall and he managed to find a way into a higher one later but was alone the Hens could no longer get that high and went back to the coop. When temps got sub-zero he preferred the coop with a heat lamp which I ran until it got back to at-least 20 in the night.
local tire stores will give you free old used tires because it costs them a couple bucks each to dump them in a landfill.
Tires get recycled in most places in the US as they won't decompose in land fill. Tire stores do get charged per-tire for pick up service, they pass that on to customers in the form of a charge, ussually environmental hazard fee because they can not through them in the dumpster.
@@sirrobyn0yes but to clarify, they charge the person who is replacing their tires, not the one picking them up to use them on a farm. I built a greenhouse in the side of a hill and used about a hundred used tires and the tire shop was happy to give them to me because he charged the customer $2 per tire for a disposal fee therefore he put about $200 in his pocket and I got them for free.
@@PrinceCbassYep that's true I built a shooting range out back and the used tire shop gave me all the tires I wanted for free and even let me pick me tires 😅.
I will be using this as a secondary waterer. Use electric heaters in the pens but let them free range during the day. I had electric ran to my pens.
I use a soda bottle half fill it with alcohol or cooking oil. Neither of those will freeze and the chickens/wind keep the bottle moving and the water around it a degree or 2 warmer. It won't stop it from Freezing if its cold enuff but it does delay it a bit. Happy chicken keeping
Put a clear roof over it to lengthen light rays and heat it more. Paint tire black. Put tire on sheet piece of insulation, and away from wind...
Great idea!!! Will use it!!! Tks
I love this idea. There's another idea using a Geo tube. I think both of these ideas would work together well.
Excellent idea.Thank you
Thank you 😊
Very Super content, thank for taking the time to share with us+
I’d add a dark rock in the center of the pan, something like basalt. Pack the tire with compost.
Luv it, TY for sharing 👍
This is very awesome most definitely going to do this for our chickens at my brother's
This might be a good idea for the barn cats and other small animals.
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This would be a great way to keep my dogs from dumping their water over.
How do you empty this to add clean water, as its a tight fit and heavy?
An old crock pot will work too.
Great idea…. I wish that I would have kept one of my old tires when I got them replaced.
Do you think you could pack your tire with the leaves from around your property and under the bowl?? Does the dog ever go and try and get his toy back?!?!Lol! Great idea! God Bless!
awesome idea. I am going to try it for my outside dog. :)
You can go to your local tire store and get free tires.
Nice work man
I just bought a water heater designed to keep your chicken water perfect in the winter. Yes, it was electric, so I'm a big spender. The girl's water never froze.
That's pretty cool .
Do you have problems with coyotes with free-range chickens ?
We've had a few possums get into the coop at night and hit their heads on a bullet. Our dogs tend to keep the Coyotes at a distance.
This looks like a great idea how has it been working? We just got into pygmy goats and starting to make a plan for winter in Michigan
He said it’s been working great so far.
Thank you 👍🏾
Seems like insulation inside would insulate the sunlit tire from warming the bowl. I'd rather line with rocks, bricks other heat retainers.
Me too. He did mention those.
Please remember micro-organisms that do the composting need air to live & that manure sealed inside the tire will block off their air.... I had an aggressive vine closed off sides of my compost pile and it turns very foul with a different type of very unhealthy micro-bacteria that no one would want by their livestock :(
Have a goodyear
You know wmaybe some spray foam inside the tire.
Some bored on the bottom or insulation board on the bottom and throw in one of those. Hot hands and then put the water on top.
And that should hold that heat in there pretty good. That's what I was going to try this winter.
I'm going to try this. You think a handful of ping pong balls would work better than that big ball?
I do think that is a good idea but the final result may depend more on your climate. Winter clouds/lack of sun and continuous freezing overnight temps are tough to keep water thawed without electric, but it has been pretty dependable for us.
Burying a 6' section of concrete storm drain on end with a 2" concrete bottom will hold enough water to keep an insulated smaller bowl sitting on top at ground level ice free.
Years ago in Greenfield Missouri in the deep Ozarks my two uncle's married two of my mom's sisters to water cattle in the winter...in a large metal watering trough they would lay a cleaned trunk of a tree about a foot across; they put one end in to the bottom of the tank and the other end would lay out opposite side (remember I was a kid) seems three feet, so instead of chopping ice they could stir the water and it never got frozen .
Now rancher and farms have electric water tanks for the winter.
".....my two uncles married two of my moms sisters to water cattle in the winter." Really?!! How deep in the ozarks are u???
@@billhudson1923 South/East of 49/71 the
I have heard of putting a limb or post in water tanks to keep them from freezing as well.
@@billhudson1923 lmao
Sounds like your aunts got a very RAW DEAL! All they are are Water Bearers??
This sounds more like the Old Testament times. Do they have to sleep in the barn with the cattle?🐂🐃
"They are treated well and only beaten when necessary."
Good idea
Great idea. What about using straw for insulation? Goodness knows I have that in abundance at my place!
I wonder if straw or hay would work stuffed in the tire as well?
How does it work? I want to try it sick of freezing water lol
Good video
For all that matters you could fill the inside with leaves.
Thanks for sharing! :D
Solar powered fountain pump.
Great idea. Wind-Chill only affects living tissue. put styrofoam under bottom of tire and pan.
Ummmm. No. Wind can cause freezing water, soil, mulch, pretty much anything that retains water, if the right combination of wind speed and real temperatures exists.
@@j.chriswatson6847 Um NO.
I would think that no insulation would be better, because the warmth from the solar heated black tire would warm the pail and water. Both ways would work I suppose. I'll have to experiment. Thanks for the tire idea.
I like it!
Neat idea 👍🇬🇧
Ok. Gonna try this. Black rubber does get warm for sure. But that rubber water container is a bowl or pan not a pail.. just saying.
I might try it with my livestock guardian dogs. The ball won't last though.
at -7 water in my coop doesn't freeze what does this do at -20?
How cold ????
30, 20, 10, 0 everything will freeze eventually along with the chickens
I use a heating pad under five gallon self waterer
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It’s been 5 years now……does it work? I have to find a way to keep my chicken water unfrozen
Yes, It has worked well for our area zoned 7a/b.
Update on this? How did it turn out for you?
Lord Krythic works well for us here in zone 7.
@@American-OutdoorsNet
Can you be more specific? How well does it keep from freezing? At what temperature have you observed it freezing?
@@lordkrythic6246 Where we are we rarely get more than 2-3 days below freezing, so it usually doesn't freeze, and if it does it is just a thin layer.
A heated dog bowls the answer they never freeze and they work like you wouldn't believe!
Spoken like someone who's never paid an electric bill in their life!
@@dansbarbershop
Well they make some that use very little electricity. The blue ones I have aren't so bad.
How much electricity do you think they use? Not Much..
On a update,
Mine did freeze up when the temp was like. O1' last week or so.
That was after days of it.
It was record cold all over the Country.
But in normal North East winters I'm Usally good all winter.
@@dansbarbershop
Spoken like someone that lives off the grid..lol
. . until the cord breaks inside, or the thermostat breaks.
GET A SUBMERSIBLE DEICER. I JUST BOUGHT ONE MYSELF. TC
The problem I have with open waterers is , baby chickens drawn. I free range too, and I think its important for babies and moms to run around and eat from the forest ground.
I've used this very same waterer~same pan in a tire~for the past 13 yrs and never had a single chick drown in it. Also use a heated dog bowl in the winter months for the chickens and never had a frostbit wattle resulting from it. Baby chicks usually aren't drinking from the waterers at all if they have a mama, as all their moisture comes from the bugs and such that they eat.
I had a chick fall in and drown, I secured a piece of wire mesh(squares large enough for their beak) over it, never happened again.
Dig a hole under it couple ft deep. And off course seal it. Think of a water meter.
what does the hole do?...trap warmer air?
@@bkershaccount The ground is where the supply of warmth is, and it will rise and warm the bottom of the water pan. Unless your in a area where there is permafrost, then i guess you could dig the hole below that line.
Styrofoam Lid To Cover
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Chickens On A Standing Plate
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Chickens are livestock?
I had no idea.
They are where it matters, tax forms.
🐔. Chickens aren't livestock and we don't pay tax here in Washington Co. Missouri for our yard bird.
Price of eggs today
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Bubble wrap is allot of money
Eddy Family Farm
Now they have a heated toilet to drink from!
I think a tire would degrade in the sun and shed unhealthy components into your coop soil. I would never keep an old tire around in my yard or garden.
just out some anti freeze in the water no big deal
you are an idiot
I hope you're joking and you're not that stupid.
@@murldewaynegreen deal with the neighbor and spare the poor dog, rat shot or rock salt work well when it penetrates the skin, but doesn't kill the dog!!
@@murldewaynegreen geez, get a hobby other than killing innocent dogs are just pick up the poop yourself and be a good human being...your neighbor being an idiot does not mean you should be one too.
Jeremy Stewart I always imbibe a cup or two of the antifreeze myself before trying it on animals. It's that sweet tooth o' mine.