This explains so much, thanks Sully! I’ve been doing the press for nearly 3 years but had no idea how many muscles I was using in the execution. And the shrug makes so much more sense now, never realized how important that was.
Local lifters say this is the exercise that can lead to shoulder impingement. That must be true only if the exercise is done incorrectly. If not true at all, what does cause shoulder impingement?
These videos are a good resource for making this stuff digestible to people that don't know and avoid strength training, thanks. Was a video about adapting the movement ever released?
Because weighted pullups do not meet our exercise selection or exercise prescription criteria. Because the vast majority of people over 50 can do a press or one of its variants from the very start of training, even if they are weak and unconditioned. And the vast majority of such people CANNOT do a weighted pullup from the very start of training, even if they are relatively fit. Weighted chins are great, but they are not part of our GENERAL exercise prescription. Also, you will be aware that we don't focus on program on muscles. We focus our program on movements.
it's good for most people, but as Sullydawg elucidated, it's not particularly appropriate for the elderly population. The pros don't outweigh the cons. There's always an opportunity cost.
@@shumardi1 Of course not; they are terrific exercises--*for those who can do them*. We are quite clear on this above, and we are quite clear on this in the book. It is simply the case that most people in their 50s or 70s or even 90s can do some version of a squat, bench, or deadlift but CANNOT do even a single pullup. It doesn't make sense to prescribe a movement to an older adult that she simply cannot perform. We do in fact have clients who do chins or pullups or some variant thereof...just not to start. And many older clients, for reasons of strength or shoulder mobility, never get to do chins, even though they massively increase their bench and press strength. So they're not part of the GENERAL exercise prescription, but we do prescribe them on an individual basis when indicated.
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This guy reminds me of Jane's dad from Breaking Bad
Starting Strength guys have good weightlifting advice but damn are they fat for health guys. Being overweight brings with it much higher rates of disease and fatigue. I wouldn’t listen to these guys about eating. And the speaker needs to get some sunlight - he’s sickly pale, which is unhealthy in itself.
You gotta love people who can instantly judge manifold domains of human health based on how somebody looks in a CZcams video. Well, Dr. Vitaly, I'm healthy as a horse, and that includes my insulin sensitivity, my serum glucose, my visceral fat, my calcium score, my blood pressure, my raw strength, and my endurance, all of which are outstanding for a 62 year old man--a 62 yo man who lives in Michigan where, as you may or may not be aware, sunbathing is not always in season. I'm successully fighting off a recently dx'd lymphoma while still engaged in strength training and conditioning that puts most other men in my age group to shame--although it shouldn't, and I've dedicated my life to changing that. As to my body fat, which is in the healthy range, I'll just say that since I'm not a bodybuilder, and since I'm not trying to get YOU to ask me on a date, I don't feel compelled to be jacked and tanned or otherwise in conformity with your superficial and misinformed concepts of health or beauty. But, using your own metric of mere appearances, I'd have to say you don't LOOK any leaner than me, and you certainly don't look as strong or healthy. You ARE very tan, so...good for you. But, DAMN ARE YOU FAT for an opinionated guy. That is, if you're the guy doing boxing rounds, and you're not actually the Dolph-a-ganger in your avatar. If you DON'T look like your avatar....well, that's hilarious, and also sad. If you do....well, in that case you LOOK like a steroid freak. Chill out on the 'roids, bro. And don't get so much sun--you're gonna get skin cancer yo. So. Now that we've each made simplistic, stupid, insulting, uninvited, crude, and certainly erroneous comprehensive assessments of the other's health based on mere superficial appearances, I'd like to politely invite you to either piss off or grow up and think before you open your mouth and embarrass yourself next time. Love the boxing rounds--a great conditioning modality. Keep it up. And thanks for watching.
This explains so much, thanks Sully! I’ve been doing the press for nearly 3 years but had no idea how many muscles I was using in the execution. And the shrug makes so much more sense now, never realized how important that was.
Glad we could help!
Strength training is life
If I had to pick only 1 lift to do, the press will do it! This video is very detailed. Thank you very much!
Great to be back pressing again, go over view.
I have started sending these to my aging in-laws. These are great videos! Thank you!
Excellent! I made these videos for them, and you. Thanks!
Gold!
I'm happy if my videos hit the tin standard. So thank you!
Thanks JS - my working sets are stuck around 100 pounds - though my single rep max has creeped up to 130.
Thank u, Dr. Sullivan.🙏
Thank Dr, i learn a lot of this topic
Hi Dr Scully great video thanks 🏋️
Local lifters say this is the exercise that can lead to shoulder impingement. That must be true only if the exercise is done incorrectly. If not true at all, what does cause shoulder impingement?
Thank You for sharing.
Every time I see that 3-sided plate stand, I drool a little. What brand is it?
Awesome
It's sad you are required to teach these basics to the current generation. Thank You.
These videos are a good resource for making this stuff digestible to people that don't know and avoid strength training, thanks.
Was a video about adapting the movement ever released?
Not yet, although we recently posted an innovative way to use in people with shoulder immobility on our IG feed. Fear not: more to come. :)
Why not also a weighted pullup to build the lats and biceps?
Because weighted pullups do not meet our exercise selection or exercise prescription criteria. Because the vast majority of people over 50 can do a press or one of its variants from the very start of training, even if they are weak and unconditioned. And the vast majority of such people CANNOT do a weighted pullup from the very start of training, even if they are relatively fit. Weighted chins are great, but they are not part of our GENERAL exercise prescription.
Also, you will be aware that we don't focus on program on muscles. We focus our program on movements.
it's good for most people, but as Sullydawg elucidated, it's not particularly appropriate for the elderly population. The pros don't outweigh the cons. There's always an opportunity cost.
@@oliverallen5324 Exactly.
If a person is strong enough to do them is there a downside to including them?
@@shumardi1 Of course not; they are terrific exercises--*for those who can do them*. We are quite clear on this above, and we are quite clear on this in the book. It is simply the case that most people in their 50s or 70s or even 90s can do some version of a squat, bench, or deadlift but CANNOT do even a single pullup. It doesn't make sense to prescribe a movement to an older adult that she simply cannot perform. We do in fact have clients who do chins or pullups or some variant thereof...just not to start. And many older clients, for reasons of strength or shoulder mobility, never get to do chins, even though they massively increase their bench and press strength. So they're not part of the GENERAL exercise prescription, but we do prescribe them on an individual basis when indicated.
This guy reminds me of Jane's dad from Breaking Bad
Ummm....okay.
"except for religion and politics" < ---- smart man!
„Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen."
@@GreySteel ich wusste nicht, dass Sie Deutsch sprechen können
@@Rhye_
Ich kann nicht
Starting Strength guys have good weightlifting advice but damn are they fat for health guys. Being overweight brings with it much higher rates of disease and fatigue. I wouldn’t listen to these guys about eating. And the speaker needs to get some sunlight - he’s sickly pale, which is unhealthy in itself.
You gotta love people who can instantly judge manifold domains of human health based on how somebody looks in a CZcams video. Well, Dr. Vitaly, I'm healthy as a horse, and that includes my insulin sensitivity, my serum glucose, my visceral fat, my calcium score, my blood pressure, my raw strength, and my endurance, all of which are outstanding for a 62 year old man--a 62 yo man who lives in Michigan where, as you may or may not be aware, sunbathing is not always in season. I'm successully fighting off a recently dx'd lymphoma while still engaged in strength training and conditioning that puts most other men in my age group to shame--although it shouldn't, and I've dedicated my life to changing that.
As to my body fat, which is in the healthy range, I'll just say that since I'm not a bodybuilder, and since I'm not trying to get YOU to ask me on a date, I don't feel compelled to be jacked and tanned or otherwise in conformity with your superficial and misinformed concepts of health or beauty.
But, using your own metric of mere appearances, I'd have to say you don't LOOK any leaner than me, and you certainly don't look as strong or healthy. You ARE very tan, so...good for you. But, DAMN ARE YOU FAT for an opinionated guy.
That is, if you're the guy doing boxing rounds, and you're not actually the Dolph-a-ganger in your avatar. If you DON'T look like your avatar....well, that's hilarious, and also sad. If you do....well, in that case you LOOK like a steroid freak. Chill out on the 'roids, bro. And don't get so much sun--you're gonna get skin cancer yo.
So.
Now that we've each made simplistic, stupid, insulting, uninvited, crude, and certainly erroneous comprehensive assessments of the other's health based on mere superficial appearances, I'd like to politely invite you to either piss off or grow up and think before you open your mouth and embarrass yourself next time.
Love the boxing rounds--a great conditioning modality. Keep it up.
And thanks for watching.
@@GreySteel Ouch, I'm sure his tail is tucked securely between his legs. Nice reply Greysteel! 🤣😂
@@GreySteel Was he actually talking about the starting strength guys (Rippetoe etc) though not you ?
Great one for gray steel 😂👍