Was there today everything about this horse screamed superstar, late into the parade ring, cameras and media waiting, walked round like a champ, then goes and wallops them again, absolute monster and future star
I like how Aiden always mentions his staff and those that take care of the horses. Also he never criticises his jockeys for bad rides. A brilliant trainer but also very humble and gracious.
You have to be a believer when he says they've never had one that can do what he does. He's trained literally thousands of horses and to say that means a lot.
All trainers say the same thing for stud value. Aiden said it about Camelot, August Roden, George Washington (ironically was a dud at stud) they are the 3 that jump to mind out of the 50 horses he has said it about 😂
Another exciting prospect from ballydoyle, never seen Aidan so animated about a horse,and always gracious about his team at home ,and the hard work they put in,good luck with city of troy.never mind the press doing comparisons, always looking for a story, the proof was there for everybody to see.
I was watching on TV I thought Ryan was going to burst into tears. He really was emotional looking. Then they stick the microphone in their face. They can't enjoy the walk in front of the crowd for 1 minute.
@@paulrichards6894 yes might get 12 furlongs actually but I agree the test was at the minimum distance for him and he should be way better over 10 or slightly more.
What a smooth-moving horse, and others were throwing their legs out purposefully, but for him, it seemed an effortless gait; amazing, and that's over six!!
Justify / scatt daddy line who are fast mature early type colts . Very exciting but he might be ahead of the other 2 year olds Interesting how he develops from 2 to 3?
They won't bottle running their best horses over distance, ground or opposition to find out exactly how good their horses are, unlike some. Can't see anyone else running a horse of this quality on ground like it encountered yesterday just so they could see it keep it's unbeaten record. This is why Coolmore are the greatest horse empire ever.
@@sargy1916I think resting him for the Dewhurst was way more sensible 👍 For one it twice as important race. Look I'm honest being Irish. The ground was predicted to be good it just rained Friday at Newmarket. If they took him out imagine what a rubbish Dewhurst it would have been. Then considering his other horse won the National stakes by 5 lengths. It was fairly genius planning by the lads.
Although some controversy around his father, he still remains the only un-raced 2 year to win the Kentucky Derby since Apollo some time in the late 1800s. His dad was clearly special to do that and also win the Triple Crown despite stable shenanigans. Maybe City of Troy will afford his father the credit he truly deserves. 🍏 🐴
I know he has the powerful owners ,But my god you won't see another trainer like aide he deserves all the luck and credit he receives. Humble hard working guy!
Hes not out of an Oaks winner, hes out of Together Forever, it was her sister Forever Together who won the Oaks. They also used the name City of Troy on a Stoute colt 20 years ago.
@@nc3music920..I don’t think he’ll attempt the triple crown. There was a time when it was fashionable, but the Arc is far more important & prestigious.
@@christophebonhoefferofbelg9846 The guineas, derby and arc has been done by Seas The Stars. I know for a fact that the triple crown is what he wants most of all. It would be historic. Hasnt been done since Nijinsky who was also trained at ballydoyle by his predecessor, Vincent O'Brien
@@NC-ck5oj ..I don’t disagree with you at all because there was a time when it was the big thing. Of course Aidan would love to have a triple crown winner & so would Coolmore, but I’m just not sure they’ll go for it. If City of Troy wins the Guineas & Derby, surely they cannot avoid the Arc which is less than 3 weeks after the St Ledger. Remember too that Vincent tried to do it with Nijinsky & failed. The Arc is the best middle distance race in Europe & the Ledger isn’t that big a deal anymore.
Absolutely outstanding! Winning a dewhurst like that is not often done, i think this horse is made for a juddmonte international and king George. He responds very well to the whip and gallops very very strongly. I still really like his stable mate Henry Longfellow for the guineas.
Unfortunately his stablemate is by No Nay Never and they don’t really see out a mile over a mile (case in point Ten Sovereigns……when he hit the bushes his race was over, but weeks later he returns to Newmarket to win the July Cup)
@@isleofman11 no Henry Longfellow is by dubawi, he's all speed and a mile Will be his maximum distance.. I agree about no nay Nevers, very fast 2yos don't get a mile and never really train on.
Aidan very soft spoken person amazing trainer love horse respect life of animal never abuse a horse 🐎 always patient and transparency to thre job good luck for 2024
I wonder if the Owners and Aiden would consider the Triple Crown (2000 Guineas, The Derby and St Leger) and the Arc next year? Probably have to wait to see if he gets the distance, looks like he goes forever and was stretchin’ out in his races🐴🔥
There’s been a few Horses that have impressed but just not got the ground in recent years such as Pinatubo, Baaeed.. I think we never got to see the best of Coroebus R.I.P also👍🏻
Far be it for me to correct the great Aiden O'Brien about City of Troy's breeding but in conversation with Lydia Hislop he advises that CofT's Dam (Together Forever) won the Oaks and his sire (Justify) was a "big sprinter who won the Belmont." Together Forever was 7th in the Epsom Oaks (Qualify won trained by Aiden) and 4th in the Irish equivalent (Covert won). Her only Group 1 win was the Fillies' Mile as a 2yr old. Justify (unbeaten) won the US Triple Crown (over 1m2f, 1m1/2f and 1m4f) a much greater feat than just the Belmont, His shortest winning distance was over 7f in his first run stepping up to a mile on his second.
@@user-ct7yf7wp4u Justify was quick from the gate. normal for most horses here in the US . but his first race was over 7f and the 8f. That could be what Aidan was talking about.
I love this colt. Love his pedigree, his obvious ability, and I've always been a huge fan Aidan O'Brien as a trainer and of the way the powers that be at Coolmore/Ballydoyle go about their business in the sport we all love. But seriously fellow fans and punters, could we all please take a moment to catch our breath and come back to reality for a second. It's when the "so-called" experts of the sport that get paid to have their opinions piped into the living rooms & dens of racing fans all over the world. It's when those same "so-called experts" from RacingTV or ITV or AtTheRaces or anywhere else immediately loose sight of the forest for the trees with some of the comments which swirled following this race, that's when "racing expert" is a term I start using very loosely. Don't get me wrong, this was without question a top-shelf effort and performance from a very well bred son of an American Triple Crown winner, who provided he stayes healthy or isn't retired to stud prematurely looks to have a tremendous upside going forward. That being said, and again I'm a huge fan of Coolmore and their Ballydoyle operation, but as excited as I'm sure they are by City of Troy, I promise that nobody knows better than Aidan O'Brien, Michael Tabor, Derrick Smith, and John & Sue Magnier that comparing this colt with Frankel is pure "made for television" bullshit. Straight up, City of Troy would not even have been a good tow into the race for Frankel. And although obviously possessing a world of talent, I also would not call City of Troy the best 2YO since Frankel either. I mean if I'm being honest I'm pretty sure at this age that Kingman probably had a little quicker turn of foot too. A better comment might've been we think he's probably gonna be better than St Mark's Basilica was at his age. Or we think he could end up being another Giant's Causeway type that could win the stable another 6 really tough G1 races like the iron horse did in his day. Or we think he could legitimately be the kind of horse that may eventually eclipse Magical, Highland Reel, Minding, Yeats, or Rock Of Gibraltar's record of all being tied with 7-G1 wins each, representing a 5-way tie for the stable as the most individual G1 wins by a horse or horses trained by Aidan O'Brien. But when you come in at the end of a race like this as a broadcaster, immediately swinging for the fences and immediately making reference to, or in some cases outright comparisons of City Of Troy to Frankel with him literally still at the beginning of his racing career, then maybe those particular "so-called experts" should stop sniffing glue as to be able to at least crash land back into reality before going returning back onto air. That, or just move on to something else. Go back to another institution of higher learning, then seek out, pass, and secure your next degree in I'm a "so-called expert" on this subject now.
@GBertet83 so true, there definitely does seem to be a little overhyped going on, the horse has the potential to be anything? But on this performance he's very good but nothing like they are making out, I don't think it was a particularly strong Dewhusrt (but many aren't) and I wasn't quite as impressed with this race as I was with his Superlative Stakes win, although he had been of the racecourse some time and maybe 7 was a little short?
at the end of next season barrin injuries, city of troy, will be talked about in the same lg as nilinsky mill reef, briadier gerrard, sea the stars dancin brave frankel
@@Zarkava8 think he potentially good but a mile off frankel...he clocked speed ratings of about 106 in his both last 2 runs but frankel was clocking 132s
@@Paul-qn7qfThey need to do more to attract better horses to Group 1s in UK. Remember one race Enable had like 2 competitors. Just if owners think they can't win then why run? No French or German runners.
@@Paul-qn7qf I think he'd have beaten whoever turned up. He's one of the best 2yr olds I've seen. Hope he trains on and becomes a horse to follow next year.and even better. Flat racing needs a star
@@fk65682Dont Be that Guy. All He can do is run against who shows up. City of Troy came from Ireland. Its not his fault The UK doesn't have horses on his level at the. time.
Love the way Aiden tried to give a in depth description of what City Of Troy’s preferred ground is You need Tractor tyres to run on that ground and we’ve got Grand Prix ones Brilliant absolutely brilliant The man’s a genius but most importantly He’s very humble and always mentions his team which is great to hear as everyone is important when it comes to running an operation as big as there’s
I think a Guinness mile he could be vulnerable to something with a serious turn of foot especially in slow run race , his a middle distance horse derby horse
it won't be a slow run race, I can see him leading setting his own pace, Frankel was usually happy to take a lead but remember what he did in the Guineas, this horse has already shown he's happy to do it from the front and bearing in mind Aiden has already said he doesn't get tired I think you can totally dismiss the chance of a "slow run race"
It’s called recency bias .. every year for the past 15-20 years o brien has said a horse is potentially the best he’s had . From king of kings to hawk wing , one cool cat, giants causeway, Henry the navigator .. it’s to hype up the stable and market the sport .
ah you disagree with FACTS, with insults. I don't create the facts. He beat nowt , until he showed he was a good horse to beat Nathaniel by a length...just about. The Cirrus race was not measurable as Cirrus was 6 and just got off a plane on Frankels home ground...and he won by...yes ..again....a length.
I get the comparison to the great one, it's understandable. But it's way too soon for comparisons. Aidan has said similar about Auguste Rodin this season. The "lads" are really good self promoters
Nope, It’s only Ryan Moore and Aiden O’Brien that are the superstars, meanwhile the price goes down even further, might be 1/20 soon, seriously though Frankie, what are you on for his horse to run like ass.
If he's a tenth of frankel he will retire undefeated the way obrien talks about him as in we've never got to the bottom of him he doesn't get tired this man is a genuis who's in my mind the best trainer in the world and countless group 1s under his belt and they reckon this horse might be the best yet its scary then how good this horse might be as yer man adien doesn't say those things lighty and Moore was just as bullish
I’m so into my jump racing that this flat stuff is like some weird alternative universe. I live 12 minutes from Newmarket but it’s just never been of interest to me. How is Aiden O’Brien still bringing so many horses over to Newmarket from his base in Ireland? Why doesn’t he just set up a permanent shop in Newmarket?
The dams full sister won the Epsom Derby. They have very similar names, Together Forever and Forever Together, so it's understandable if he moved the names up. The dam was still a very nice race horse for sure, and has been a very good producer.
Janno you are American right? So English is your first language yes? So why does every comment you put read as though you are sat in a call centre in Pakistan!?! Learn how to string a sentence together please going forward..
I'm not 100% sure he will stay the derby trip his dam only came 7th in the oaks never won over 1mile 4 furlongs.However he has alot of speed maybe they will go to the French Derby.
Possibly but he races like an out and out stayer and ultimately that's what counts. Take Pivotal as an example - a high class 5f sprinter but produced of winners up to 2m plus
Maybe a true comparison to the legendary FRANKEL ,,,, NEVER HEARD THE AMAZING TRAINER SAY SO MUCH ABOUT A HORSE !!! TROY HAS TO BE THE REAL DEAL FOR CERTAIN. GX
Was there today everything about this horse screamed superstar, late into the parade ring, cameras and media waiting, walked round like a champ, then goes and wallops them again, absolute monster and future star
Yes I was just saying pity the interview starts on the horse before Ryan can even soke up the reception.
Another retired to Stud after 5-6 races I bet
Market forces@@Notappening-hl4df
I like how Aiden always mentions his staff and those that take care of the horses. Also he never criticises his jockeys for bad rides. A brilliant trainer but also very humble and gracious.
Totally agree Disco. You've said it all. Aiden doesn't do egos.
yes aidans smile was telling ...but ryans smile was more telling..he knew why he had reason to smile...he just sat on the best horse he ever sat on
I've never seen Aidan smile like that. He was genuinely excited.
You have to be a believer when he says they've never had one that can do what he does. He's trained literally thousands of horses and to say that means a lot.
😂
He literally said the same just last year about Auguste rodin😂
@@johnnyboy6608Learn how to use the word "literally" properly.
All trainers say the same thing for stud value. Aiden said it about Camelot, August Roden, George Washington (ironically was a dud at stud) they are the 3 that jump to mind out of the 50 horses he has said it about 😂
@@robertburke2246how should I use it then Robert burke 2246
Another exciting prospect from ballydoyle, never seen Aidan so animated about a horse,and always gracious about his team at home ,and the hard work they put in,good luck with city of troy.never mind the press doing comparisons, always looking for a story, the proof was there for everybody to see.
I was watching on TV I thought Ryan was going to burst into tears. He really was emotional looking. Then they stick the microphone in their face. They can't enjoy the walk in front of the crowd for 1 minute.
The price of Success, especially in this Era where Sport, Money and the Media are more to the fore than ever......Alas....
Nice win- yet another class act from king of the trainers Aidan -congratulations to Aidan and all his staff. Great training and great tactics
Great breeding
the winner of the first race ran a much better speed figure but he probably want 12f next year
@@paulrichards6894 yes might get 12 furlongs actually but I agree the test was at the minimum distance for him and he should be way better over 10 or slightly more.
@@user-mw1tt5mm9q trouble is trust aiden to get his horses to the derby but i dont trust godolphin
Gorgeous stride on this horse.
I just love listening to this genius lovely gentleman talking
Aiden O’ Brien is a gentleman through and through.
agree a gent....lovely fella....i am not sure about him being a champion(COT) but really hope he turns out a top class horse for aiden
by that win the 2,000 and the derby
What a gentleman the trainer is.
nice fella
Always modest considerin’ how great a 2yr old City of Troy is🐴🔥
Excellent thanks for posting ❤
What a smooth-moving horse, and others were throwing their legs out purposefully, but for him, it seemed an effortless gait; amazing, and that's over six!!
Seven
@globaloffice3214 okay 7f, he wasn't sprinting tho like others to keep up, and another great time, so he's outstanding.
It will be a good one who finds its achilles heel
Justify / scatt daddy line who are fast mature early type colts . Very exciting but he might be ahead of the other 2 year olds Interesting how he develops from 2 to 3?
He looks like he would be better at 3 and 4.
They won't bottle running their best horses over distance, ground or opposition to find out exactly how good their horses are, unlike some. Can't see anyone else running a horse of this quality on ground like it encountered yesterday just so they could see it keep it's unbeaten record. This is why Coolmore are the greatest horse empire ever.
Read what he said when he withdrew him from the National Stakes last month...
Ground it encountered yesterday????
It was good-good to soft ground.
@@sargy1916I think resting him for the Dewhurst was way more sensible 👍
For one it twice as important race. Look I'm honest being Irish.
The ground was predicted to be good it just rained Friday at Newmarket.
If they took him out imagine what a rubbish Dewhurst it would have been.
Then considering his other horse won the National stakes by 5 lengths. It was fairly genius planning by the lads.
@@sargy1916Sargy sometimes they get it wrong.
Like August Rodin in the King George or Paddington in the International.
They piss me off sometimes.
Never seen Aiden so excited about a horse.
City of Troy 🎉loving the Irish🎉
Yes indeed but his sire, Justify, is American. So we are proud of him too!
The best 2 year old by far pure class
Although some controversy around his father, he still remains the only un-raced 2 year to win the Kentucky Derby since Apollo some time in the late 1800s. His dad was clearly special to do that and also win the Triple Crown despite stable shenanigans. Maybe City of Troy will afford his father the credit he truly deserves. 🍏 🐴
City of Troy looks a threat to Frankel 14/14 unbeaten record with the ease he runs and then just jets away as he likes what a rising star
They also have Henry longfellow who looks top class aswell
They will wipe the floor with the group 1 races next season
Diego Velazquez could be an interesting prospect as well.
Appleby seems to have one or two
Rosallion 2000 Guineas.🥇
I think they'll send Henry Longfellow to the french guineas and french derby next season
And Capulet
Best trainer ever
Angelo Dundee wasn't too bad
His teacher is the greatest of all time Jim bolger
I know he has the powerful owners ,But my god you won't see another trainer like aide he deserves all the luck and credit he receives. Humble hard working guy!
Bring him across the pond for a Breeders Cup race. Solid prospect.
Which one do you suggest at this stage of his career?
He did say when interviewed yesterday he would not be going to B.C this year
Very impressive performance, can't wait to see him next year. Looks like a good crop of 3 year olds next year
Hes not out of an Oaks winner, hes out of Together Forever, it was her sister Forever Together who won the Oaks. They also used the name City of Troy on a Stoute colt 20 years ago.
Looks to me he could get further than Frankel, would love to see if he could replicate Sea The Stars and try the Guineas, Derby, Arc.
I think the triple crown is what O'Briens wants most of all
@@nc3music920..I don’t think he’ll attempt the triple crown. There was a time when it was fashionable, but the Arc is far more important & prestigious.
@@christophebonhoefferofbelg9846 The guineas, derby and arc has been done by Seas The Stars. I know for a fact that the triple crown is what he wants most of all. It would be historic. Hasnt been done since Nijinsky who was also trained at ballydoyle by his predecessor, Vincent O'Brien
@@NC-ck5oj ..I don’t disagree with you at all because there was a time when it was the big thing. Of course Aidan would love to have a triple crown winner & so would Coolmore, but I’m just not sure they’ll go for it. If City of Troy wins the Guineas & Derby, surely they cannot avoid the Arc which is less than 3 weeks after the St Ledger. Remember too that Vincent tried to do it with Nijinsky & failed. The Arc is the best middle distance race in Europe & the Ledger isn’t that big a deal anymore.
John Magnier wants it most of all@@nc3music920
Absolutely outstanding! Winning a dewhurst like that is not often done, i think this horse is made for a juddmonte international and king George. He responds very well to the whip and gallops very very strongly. I still really like his stable mate Henry Longfellow for the guineas.
Unfortunately his stablemate is by No Nay Never and they don’t really see out a mile over a mile (case in point Ten Sovereigns……when he hit the bushes his race was over, but weeks later he returns to Newmarket to win the July Cup)
@@isleofman11 no Henry Longfellow is by dubawi, he's all speed and a mile Will be his maximum distance.. I agree about no nay Nevers, very fast 2yos don't get a mile and never really train on.
Very, very impressive.
Aidan very soft spoken person amazing trainer love horse respect life of animal never abuse a horse 🐎 always patient and transparency to thre job good luck for 2024
Absolute Superstar
Impressive horse 🐎 could be a superstar next season
Could be ffs 😅😅😅😅😅
No sh.t Sherlock
Best Dewhurst winner since Frankel, no doubt.
It was impressive
I hope City of Troy trains on this year , proves he is a champion , and stays in training as a four year old. Racing needs another star!
I wonder if the Owners and Aiden would consider the Triple Crown (2000 Guineas, The Derby and St Leger) and the Arc next year? Probably have to wait to see if he gets the distance, looks like he goes forever and was stretchin’ out in his races🐴🔥
There’s been a few Horses that have impressed but just not got the ground in recent years such as Pinatubo, Baaeed.. I think we never got to see the best of Coroebus R.I.P also👍🏻
They knew how good he is. Best horse I’ve seen
Based on that???
Take your blinkers off
He's such a beautiful mover; gorgeous to watch.
Like John Curry without the skates
Coolmore will be hoping he's nothing like John Curry in the breeding sheds.
Looked fantastic 👌 very precocious hope he trains on 2-3 ? Some improve more than others . He looks exceptional though
Brilliant 💯 ride Ryan very well done 👏 ✔️ 👍 ❤.you made it look so easy 😀.
It’ was easy jump out make all he was on the best horse
Henry longfellow being overlooked here. Superbly bred out of minding. Will stay at least 10f. Frankie will be looking to get on him in the guineas.
Whilst he is riding in the Kentucky Derby - doh
henry will appreciate 12f
Oops. Forgot about that.
Henry longfellow is a miler and he will win the guineas
Far be it for me to correct the great Aiden O'Brien about City of Troy's breeding but in conversation with Lydia Hislop he advises that CofT's Dam (Together Forever) won the Oaks and his sire (Justify) was a "big sprinter who won the Belmont." Together Forever was 7th in the Epsom Oaks (Qualify won trained by Aiden) and 4th in the Irish equivalent (Covert won). Her only Group 1 win was the Fillies' Mile as a 2yr old. Justify (unbeaten) won the US Triple Crown (over 1m2f, 1m1/2f and 1m4f) a much greater feat than just the Belmont, His shortest winning distance was over 7f in his first run stepping up to a mile on his second.
Aiden correctly described Justify as a big sprinter who won the Belmont.
What sprint race did he win?@@johnsonkevin1
@@user-ct7yf7wp4u Justify was quick from the gate. normal for most horses here in the US . but his first race was over 7f and the 8f. That could be what Aidan was talking about.
7f is not a sprint distance or indeed is a mile.@@sionrouge1697
@@johnsonkevin18
I love this colt. Love his pedigree, his obvious ability, and I've always been a huge fan Aidan O'Brien as a trainer and of the way the powers that be at Coolmore/Ballydoyle go about their business in the sport we all love. But seriously fellow fans and punters, could we all please take a moment to catch our breath and come back to reality for a second. It's when the "so-called" experts of the sport that get paid to have their opinions piped into the living rooms & dens of racing fans all over the world. It's when those same "so-called experts" from RacingTV or ITV or AtTheRaces or anywhere else immediately loose sight of the forest for the trees with some of the comments which swirled following this race, that's when "racing expert" is a term I start using very loosely. Don't get me wrong, this was without question a top-shelf effort and performance from a very well bred son of an American Triple Crown winner, who provided he stayes healthy or isn't retired to stud prematurely looks to have a tremendous upside going forward. That being said, and again I'm a huge fan of Coolmore and their Ballydoyle operation, but as excited as I'm sure they are by City of Troy, I promise that nobody knows better than Aidan O'Brien, Michael Tabor, Derrick Smith, and John & Sue Magnier that comparing this colt with Frankel is pure "made for television" bullshit. Straight up, City of Troy would not even have been a good tow into the race for Frankel. And although obviously possessing a world of talent, I also would not call City of Troy the best 2YO since Frankel either. I mean if I'm being honest I'm pretty sure at this age that Kingman probably had a little quicker turn of foot too. A better comment might've been we think he's probably gonna be better than St Mark's Basilica was at his age. Or we think he could end up being another Giant's Causeway type that could win the stable another 6 really tough G1 races like the iron horse did in his day. Or we think he could legitimately be the kind of horse that may eventually eclipse Magical, Highland Reel, Minding, Yeats, or Rock Of Gibraltar's record of all being tied with 7-G1 wins each, representing a 5-way tie for the stable as the most individual G1 wins by a horse or horses trained by Aidan O'Brien. But when you come in at the end of a race like this as a broadcaster, immediately swinging for the fences and immediately making reference to, or in some cases outright comparisons of City Of Troy to Frankel with him literally still at the beginning of his racing career, then maybe those particular "so-called experts" should stop sniffing glue as to be able to at least crash land back into reality before going returning back onto air. That, or just move on to something else. Go back to another institution of higher learning, then seek out, pass, and secure your next degree in I'm a "so-called expert" on this subject now.
@GBertet83
so true, there definitely does seem to be a little overhyped going on, the horse has the potential to be anything? But on this performance he's very good but nothing like they are making out, I don't think it was a particularly strong Dewhusrt (but many aren't) and I wasn't quite as impressed with this race as I was with his Superlative Stakes win, although he had been of the racecourse some time and maybe 7 was a little short?
Wow this was no wooden horse
A Spartan comment for a such a linguist
That is all Greek to me ha ha 😂
Troy was a Turkish city@@johnbatch9276
Making his debut at Nottingham on Monday in the 2.05 - Trained by James Fanshawe@@johnbatch9276
why did he switch leads so many times?
will he Justify the hype in 2024?
Justifiably so
Long ago he would have said this is the best horse i ever trained..May be he will say it Next year..
Justifiably so if he continues to use the sire
Very rare you see Aidan talk like this and in this way about a horse
He usually is quite conservative
Let's hope he trains on .
at the end of next season barrin injuries, city of troy, will be talked about in the same lg as nilinsky mill reef, briadier gerrard, sea the stars dancin brave frankel
probably more like augustin rodin
@@paulrichards6894he is a potential all time great, no danger
@@paulrichards6894Probably Little Big Bear. 😂
There's no harm in dreaming.
@@Zarkava8 think he potentially good but a mile off frankel...he clocked speed ratings of about 106 in his both last 2 runs but frankel was clocking 132s
City of Troy on ground he hates what will he do on his favoured surface. Hes one hell of a colt. These Justify Galileo mares are proving very gd.
Sue ,he looks very good,but that must be one of the worst Dewhurst fields ever.
@@Paul-qn7qfThey need to do more to attract better horses to Group 1s in UK.
Remember one race Enable had like 2 competitors.
Just if owners think they can't win then why run?
No French or German runners.
@@Paul-qn7qf I think he'd have beaten whoever turned up. He's one of the best 2yr olds I've seen. Hope he trains on and becomes a horse to follow next year.and even better. Flat racing needs a star
@@fk65682Dont Be that Guy. All He can do is run against who shows up. City of Troy came from Ireland. Its not his fault The UK doesn't have horses on his level at the. time.
Very impressive, but i'm very content with my 16/1 each way bet on Task Force(Frankel) for the Guineas.
Wow.... simple as that
Looks a proper 10f horse too.
The horse has an effortless action
Love the way Aiden tried to give a in depth description of what City Of Troy’s preferred ground is
You need Tractor tyres to run on that ground and we’ve got Grand Prix ones
Brilliant absolutely brilliant
The man’s a genius but most importantly
He’s very humble and always mentions his team which is great to hear as everyone is important when it comes to running an operation as big as there’s
ground was actually not bad....1.95 secs above standard....slower side of good
I think a Guinness mile he could be vulnerable to something with a serious turn of foot especially in slow run race , his a middle distance horse derby horse
it won't be a slow run race, I can see him leading setting his own pace, Frankel was usually happy to take a lead but remember what he did in the Guineas, this horse has already shown he's happy to do it from the front and bearing in mind Aiden has already said he doesn't get tired I think you can totally dismiss the chance of a "slow run race"
When he’s running to 2 lengths per stride and running sub 12 furlongs … he ain’t short of speed
It’s called recency bias .. every year for the past 15-20 years o brien has said a horse is potentially the best he’s had . From king of kings to hawk wing , one cool cat, giants causeway, Henry the navigator .. it’s to hype up the stable and market the sport .
That stride length what a horse run him in the derby they knew today, when do coolmore run a horse unless they know
Very impressive...in d.last half a furlong he just went zooom..👍👍👍
Aiden looks happy I'm backing him in guineas and derby
The next Frankel 🤓🤩
You mustn’t say that, the “ He’s no Frankel” brigade will be after you 😀
Why compare him to Frankel in the long term this horse could eclipse Frankel
Let’s just wait and see 😂 the bubble will burst soon, but maybe 10 group 1s in a row??
@@skrabellegend2768 …Ahh yes, didn’t take long for the Frankel looney to arrive 😀
@@jackskerry2467 no call me a loony or my husband will be annoyed signed Janet!!!
All of the comments about Aiden are true, spot on, but to comparisons of City of Troy to Frankel? Get real!
Could be the new Frankel 🙏
Faster time than Frankel so maybe even the new Sea the Stars.
Arc WIN 🏆 FOR SURE. THE NEW ACE IMPACT
ah you disagree with FACTS, with insults. I don't create the facts. He beat nowt , until he showed he was a good horse to beat Nathaniel by a length...just about. The Cirrus race was not measurable as Cirrus was 6 and just got off a plane on Frankels home ground...and he won by...yes ..again....a length.
Frankel was half asleep that day and fell out the stalls
I get the comparison to the great one, it's understandable. But it's way too soon for comparisons. Aidan has said similar about Auguste Rodin this season. The "lads" are really good self promoters
Yes but in the end the horse does the talking.
never gets tired....thats funny
Because he has not been extended yet@@paulrichards6894
What a good horse.... Very exciting. But his dam didn't win the Oaks, maybe he was too excited to mix it up.
Impressive but let’s not compare to Frankel please
Guiness derby best horse I’ve seen
I saw a lovely one in a French restaurant once
So if he needed good ground why was he withdrawn because of the ground distributed as good a race won by
Henry Longfellow
Smashing win but frankel, easy.
A touch of Frankel about him.
It's that long stride of his. What will he be like on good ground next year when he can use his stride to better effect. It's what keeps us all going.
Not as electric as Frankel. More a staying type.
Frankel had a higher cruising speed.
@@Zarkava8 City of Troy did a faster Dewhurst than Frankels on far worse ground.
Nope, It’s only Ryan Moore and Aiden O’Brien that are the superstars, meanwhile the price goes down even further, might be 1/20 soon, seriously though Frankie, what are you on for his horse to run like ass.
he's 3, dont be scared, try for for the derby!! 🇺🇸
Very impressive on that ground, quicker Dewhurst than Frankels on far worse ground.
Nonsense
@@johnnyboy6608He is actually correct.
@@RandyWatson69 he is but comparing times from races 13 years apart is nonsense and not worth anything.
@@johnnyboy6608 He is still correct.
Correct Johnny.
It always makes me chuckle when people compare times from different years.
Absolutely pointless.
When world top jockey says he cannot stop, you can imagine what kind of horse city of troy is
If he's a tenth of frankel he will retire undefeated the way obrien talks about him as in we've never got to the bottom of him he doesn't get tired this man is a genuis who's in my mind the best trainer in the world and countless group 1s under his belt and they reckon this horse might be the best yet its scary then how good this horse might be as yer man adien doesn't say those things lighty and Moore was just as bullish
I’m so into my jump racing that this flat stuff is like some weird alternative universe. I live 12 minutes from Newmarket but it’s just never been of interest to me. How is Aiden O’Brien still bringing so many horses over to Newmarket from his base in Ireland? Why doesn’t he just set up a permanent shop in Newmarket?
Who in their right mind would leave Ireland for England .
For once O’Brien actually made sense - colt looks like a machine
He didn't know what the dame won, she never won a race at 3 let alone an Oaks. in both Oaks she wasn't in the first 3.
@@galdessa1 😂😂 leave it those who know princess x
@@Martin.Lewis..Keep trolling 🤡
The dams full sister won the Epsom Derby. They have very similar names, Together Forever and Forever Together, so it's understandable if he moved the names up. The dam was still a very nice race horse for sure, and has been a very good producer.
We seen that City of Troy won, today!! Enough Said!😊😊😊!
Janno you are American right? So English is your first language yes?
So why does every comment you put read as though you are sat in a call centre in Pakistan!?!
Learn how to string a sentence together please going forward..
If it was "enough said" then no body would be commenting including you. We are discussing a potential champion not just a winner
True, this horse IS already a champion, in the making!! Just keep watching out for him and other horse's, that you like!!
Take your frustrations out on punch bag rather than women or perhaps go out and get laid@@Martin.Lewis..
@@Martin.Lewis..racism. Reported.
arazi got a rating of 121 after 3 runs..troy has 124 after 3 runs...again i say troy in my top 3..two year old i have seen
Nice horse
Acheived ratings comparable to Frankel 2yo races
Looks a triple crown winner
Don't everyone forget about Henry longfellow😂
K.D. bring that SportsCar🐎
Bad ground couldn’t stop him, will win the derby
If he doesn't get boxed in round Tattenham Corner from a poor draw
The flat racing world is crying out for another superstar!
Comparison's to Frankel are a bit premature.
@samllsmalls3889, To much hype about Frankel. Outclassed by Sea the Stars by a long way.
@@ccahill2322 The idiotic comment shows you really know nothing about flat racing. I would imagine you're probably Irish as well
I do wish a lot of the people commenting on here wouldn't keep calling him "Troy" Troy won the Derby in 1979 ..this horse is "City of Troy"
He should stay at least 8/10F@!Gr1/2 in 2024
12f-14f
I'm not 100% sure he will stay the derby trip his dam only came 7th in the oaks never won over 1mile 4 furlongs.However he has alot of speed maybe they will go to the French Derby.
Possibly but he races like an out and out stayer and ultimately that's what counts. Take Pivotal as an example - a high class 5f sprinter but produced of winners up to 2m plus
Maybe a true comparison to the legendary FRANKEL ,,,, NEVER HEARD THE AMAZING TRAINER SAY SO MUCH ABOUT A HORSE !!! TROY HAS TO BE THE REAL DEAL FOR CERTAIN. GX
Think folk are going a bit OTT.
Slow early pace ,uncontested lead on tacky ground.
Certainly promising, but let's wait and see.
The best horse I’ve seen in my racing life
First year following the sport?
thats a candidate for worst racing quote ever..winner apart thats the worst dewhurst for some time
@@paulrichards6894 savage comment 😂
City of Troy will do it the Derby 2,000 Guineas, st leger and Arc u heard it hear first as long as he has no injuries
He isn’t much of a stamp a horse is he, quite small but very neat. Every chance he’s a better 2yo than 3yo.
Dam was no good at 3
Could be another Pinatubo.
@@galdessa1she won the oaks you obviously know what your talking about 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@nobullshit8898 how are you so wrong yet laughing like you’re right😂 his dam did not win as a 3yo
@@nobullshit8898 tit
has to be in top 3 two year olds i have seen in my long lifetime
He's 2
@@justthetruth1thats what i said
@@justthetruth1🤦😂😂
@@pauldonohoe3646 🤡
Who are the other two Larry?
Frankel my dear I don’t give a dam 😂😂😂
You are too Kind
He says " his dam won the oaks".......she didn't !
It's a very good 2yo, nothing more, nothing less. The list is endless of outstanding 2yo's and 3yo's that haven't trained on.. Just hype.
Pyledriver springs to mind
That won't prevent the gambling mugs piling on him.
good horse but nothing outstanding on the clock or form to put him in the superstar class...........the race yesterday was poor apart from him
His Dam did not win an Oaks but her full sister did.
She won the fillies mile
Very good video