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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
  • If you ask me which instruments I regularly use in the lab, you will hear Multimeter, Oscilloscope, Transistor or Component Tester. And since quite some time I ask myself: How is it possible to build such a versatile component tester for less than 10 dollars. After looking at the minimal parts count of such a device, I am convinced: The inventor was a Genius. Let’s have a closer look.
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  • @GlennHamblin
    @GlennHamblin Před 4 lety +161

    Yup. We need to find a way to credit the genius that figured this out as well as those who put the effort into improving it.
    Thanks for letting us know who they are!
    Great video 👍

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you!

    • @WorkinDuck
      @WorkinDuck Před 4 lety +5

      You can find the guy in the comments of the EEVBlog video about this tester

    • @GlennHamblin
      @GlennHamblin Před 4 lety +2

      @@WorkinDuck
      Thanks, WorkinDuck!

    • @netpilot5
      @netpilot5 Před 4 lety +1

      A person who claims to have invented this device commented in another video: czcams.com/video/7Br3L1B80ow/video.html

    • @newburypi
      @newburypi Před 4 lety +1

      I will display their names prominently in my display of lab equipment.

  • @tengelgeer
    @tengelgeer Před 4 lety +8

    Thanks Andreas for crediting the original designers! And for convincing me to get one (after 15 years of hobby0 electronics :D)
    15:25 Switching to GND is not off ;) That would be float :)
    18:30 Do note the current capabilities are a little bit more limited with a IRLZ44 on 3,3V and a IRF540 on 5V. It has a higher Ron because you run out of the linear region quicker.

  • @petrondracek4256
    @petrondracek4256 Před 4 lety +1

    Big hello from Czech republic. I love your videos. Two years ago when I was doing my bachelor thesis with ESP32 as a low energy detector I found out about your channel and a lot of information about ESP32, which was rare back then as the chip was relatively new. I got an A grade, red diploma and a deans award for it. Now I just started doing my Master thesis again with ESP32, now as a device for automatic measurement of volt-ampere characteristics of components with voltage range +-20Volts (which has a number of similarities with component tester) and you just uploaded this video with a LOT of relevant and easily digestible information for me. I dont know how you do it, but I wanted to thank you. You are making a really good job and also making my life much easier. Thank you :)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you for your feedback. So the video will appear in the bibliography of your Master thesis;-)

  • @cfusername
    @cfusername Před 4 lety +12

    I love these little devices, too. I recently even updated the software on some of them. But be careful with electrolytic capacitors, always discharge them before testing!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Good practice with the electrolytic caps, right!

  • @mikerufty1307
    @mikerufty1307 Před 4 lety +68

    I like the new dark themed slides. Easier on the eyes.

  • @DanielLopez-kt1xt
    @DanielLopez-kt1xt Před 4 lety +5

    I do agree, i have another version of this device, where i had to solder almost all the pcb (the ICs were already in the pcb). It was quite fun to build, a good soldering practice and in the end, you end up with a very usefull device. It is good to know all the hard work that allowed this device to work, nice video as allways.

    • @juststeve5542
      @juststeve5542 Před 4 lety

      Ditto! I love soldering, so invariably go for kits with something for me to do!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I did not know they also sold them as kits!

    • @juststeve5542
      @juststeve5542 Před 4 lety

      Full sized and socketed 328 too...
      www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mega328-Transistor-Tester-LCR-Capacitance-ESR-meter-PWM-DIY-TFT-LCD-Generator/401239859328
      It's even the rotary encoder version.
      I feel very lazy for not attempting an upgrade flash given I specifically went for one with a socketed and full size ATmega specifically for that reason!

    • @DanielLopez-kt1xt
      @DanielLopez-kt1xt Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Yes they do, one of the first things i bought from aliexpress... here you have the link, they still sell it (exactly the same one i ordered). My first kit, with an old Lidl soldering station... a horrible job, now i see my old soldering skills and... well, better not to look at it. Here you have a link to the one i took:
      es.aliexpress.com/item/32675418755.html

    • @gordonwedman3179
      @gordonwedman3179 Před 4 lety

      I much prefer the large green display to the small dark display that comes on the version with the rotary encoder (which I built from kit).

  • @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE

    This is a really helpful video. There are many videos on this tester but yours is the only one I have found which goes into the history and then tells how and why the tester works. So good, thank-you.

  • @tenoirab
    @tenoirab Před 4 lety +22

    Great Video, as usual Andreas!
    Perhaps you could mention, that the Transistor Tester can and should be calibrated. At least my later chinese clone-version has this functionality, which is also described in the fine manual (Chapter 5.5). Properly calibrated mine comes quite close to my bench-top multimeter, when testing capacitors and resistors. I guess with the calibration you can eliminate offsets in the 680 Ohm and 470kOhm resistors, so they don't need to be spot on (which allows our Chinese friends to use standard SMD components ;-)
    Thank you Andreas to give credit to the inventors of this truly remarkable, helpful little device!

  • @Arrowtake
    @Arrowtake Před 4 lety +3

    Great explanation how this works. I have the rotary version and been very usefull for quick check for parts.

  • @stefanmarinescu5086
    @stefanmarinescu5086 Před 4 lety

    Wow! I did not expect that such a device is relatively New in concept (2015). Hat off for the inventor and also thank you for a very educational video to watch on a sunny autumn Sunday.

  • @MarcelHuguenin
    @MarcelHuguenin Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video Andreas! Thank you for giving us these insights and crediting the original creator(s). I also use one of those and it is very convenient to use.
    The production of your video is also of outstanding quality. Danke schön 👍🏻

  • @umutk5614
    @umutk5614 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for this great video Andreas. And especially for properly crediting the inventors.

  • @harviecz
    @harviecz Před 4 lety +11

    16:08 it should be able to detect FET by going tri-state on gate. FET gate will remain charged and transistor open, while BJT will close since there will be no current anymore.

    • @bspringer
      @bspringer Před 4 lety

      It probably uses this technique. However, those small MOSFETs can have quite a high gate resistance so they might be measured as BJTs

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      hfe was very high. This is why I thought it classified wrongly.

  • @georgeprout42
    @georgeprout42 Před 4 lety +12

    Thank you for this video! I had found the original creators of the project some time ago, but lost the details. It is a very useful device, it is shame that the Chinese companies brand it as "theirs", but publicity like this can only help give credit to the correct people.

  • @Vintage_USA_Tech
    @Vintage_USA_Tech Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks so much for this video It answered all the questions I ever had about this device and then some a few years ago when I started messing with Arduino I searched for the software for device in hopes to build my own and possibility of adding some ideas to the software but I could never find much about this device other than the fact that the Chinese made it and I don't speak Chinese. This is the most informative video ever on this device and my hats off to these two great inventors!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      I knew since some time that it was invented by Germans, but not how it works.

    • @Vintage_USA_Tech
      @Vintage_USA_Tech Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Thanks to these 2 fine Germans and you to you my friend.

  • @BerndFelsche
    @BerndFelsche Před 4 lety +3

    Many years ago, I hacked a power supply adapter from my mobile phone to also be able to power my Psion 3a. The Psion input voltage was nominally 9 to 10V so I planned to use 3 plain old diodes in series to reduce the power supply voltage from 12V to below 10.
    Alas, on open circuit, the output voltage was still nearly 12V. It wasn't until I was drawing milliampere that the voltage sank low enough. So I find the multitester quite clever too.
    In a flash of inspiration with my PDA voltage dropper, I parallelled the diodes with a green LED as a current indicator... It was off when the Psion was disconnected, lit up when powering the PDA and flashed brightly when the device was drawing hesvy current, typically when connected to a modem, transferring data.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Also sounds like a simple and cheap solution!

  • @electrotsmishar
    @electrotsmishar Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you and Markus. I made a DIY version with more precise resistors, calibrated it and now I am astonished with the accuracy

  • @zikermu
    @zikermu Před 2 lety

    I bought this device a few years ago and I'm really happy with it. Your video is very interesting both educationally and graphically. I knew that Mr Markus FREJEK and Karl Heinz Kubbeler were the creators of this device and it is important to remember this. Thank you for everything .

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 2 lety

      You are welcome! And I agree: Sources are important.

  • @electron-1979
    @electron-1979 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video! Makes sense.
    Please differentiate capacity with capacitance

  • @hansschroder4643
    @hansschroder4643 Před 4 lety

    Great video again! I have now one of these testers and it is a very helpful device. All the credits to the original inventor!

  • @juststeve5542
    @juststeve5542 Před 4 lety

    I bought one of these Chinese boxes a couple of years ago, and found the original project due to curiousity how it works.
    Truly fascinating little devices, and so useful!
    I noticed the original project is/was still going, and had added support for the various displays the Chinese have bolted on.
    I did mean to flash an update onto it, but never got round to it (would have involved some board surgery, and my German improving!).

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      This is why I avoided recommending that possibility ;-)

  • @lukecorkill
    @lukecorkill Před 4 lety +1

    Another excellent video - thank you & those who originally designed the device

  • @sseppel76
    @sseppel76 Před 4 lety +21

    My tester (also a china „clone“) got the extended menu with frequency generator and so on, even though it’s not a rotary encoder version. It can be accessed by long pressing the test button when powering on the tester.
    Pretty sure it‘s in your tester too. Try it 😏

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +5

      I tried it and a menu showed up. But I have no idea on how to enter values with only one button. Do you have a link for the commands?

    • @sseppel76
      @sseppel76 Před 4 lety +4

      Andreas Spiess I only stumbled across it by accident 😂 for the f-generator i.e. you can switch values by a slightly longer button press. Long press returns to main menu.
      Looks like you have to do stuff by varying the button press time.

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před 4 lety +2

      @@sseppel76 Reminds me of a certain smart bulb... ;)
      czcams.com/video/1BB6wj6RyKo/video.html

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 4 lety

      @@sseppel76 yeah the rotary encoder models are worth the premium price. Actually I'd say the best models are the kit versions that you can assemble yourself. That way you can test each component and make sure it is up to spec. Some QC never hurts a device.

  • @stephang5671
    @stephang5671 Před 4 lety +3

    Absolutely outstanding, thank you. Very well explained. My wife is smiling at me, when I watch the video on iPad in Bed on Sunday morning... But sometimes they are too rich to be watched only once! E schöne Herbst-Start

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      The "Herbst-Start" here was very nice. Good for a bicycle tour ;-)

  • @kenseastrand7428
    @kenseastrand7428 Před 4 lety +1

    I have one and I love it! I have tested lots of stuff with it, I think like you said some of the triac stuff might not read but I would say about 98% of the time it is right on. I think that I have successfully tested scr s, and triacs, I find that there is no one single tool that does it all anyway, but this thing is pretty amazing
    best $15 I spent.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Bigger triacs need more current than the device can supply. This is the reason they are not detected. Otherwise a great tool, I agree.

  • @manuelhuitrado2094
    @manuelhuitrado2094 Před 4 lety +1

    I love your videos; giving credit to the inventor is so cool. Greetings from Mexico

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss Před 4 lety

    I love my tester too. Thanks to you years ago I have a case too. Have a good week Andreas.

  • @tombouie
    @tombouie Před 2 lety

    Amazingly Well Done, most of it was over my head but with time one day I might understand it all.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 2 lety

      My father said: If there is a will there is a way. You already did a very important thing: You started watching this video and commenting it!

  • @harviecz
    @harviecz Před 4 lety +5

    8:40 there is actually one more possibility: using internal pullup (or even pullups in combination with these external resistors)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      You are right. But I am not sure if it is used in this setup. Because the pullups are not very precise

  • @jlegen
    @jlegen Před 4 lety +12

    I would also add Markus Reschke (madires) to the ones deserving the credits; he not only did advance the software significantly, he also provides prompt support since many years...

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      I do not know the details. Thank you for the addition!

    • @jlegen
      @jlegen Před 4 lety +3

      @@AndreasSpiess afaik, the "$20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project"-thread on EEVBlog holds the record of being the biggest thread there :-) - and madires is one of the main contributors

    • @Willam_J
      @Willam_J Před 4 lety +2

      Here’s a link, for anyone interested. It has 237 pages of information. It’s a great resource. www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/$20-lcr-esr-transistor-checker-project/

    • @technixbul
      @technixbul Před 4 lety +2

      @@Willam_J you should see the Russian forums ... they had thousands of pages on this multitester, but they always mention that Markus is designer. They always provide source of every project, so author can benefit and gather the result of his fruits.

    • @tobuboghundi9952
      @tobuboghundi9952 Před 4 lety

      It's great to see the designers of this open source getting credit for their work. It is definitely deserved. I do not know why all those chinese shops don't add a little reference in their descriptions. It's not like they would lose any business. How could anyone source the parts and the PCB for their own use at the prices they sell the whole thing assembled?!?
      But...
      There is a lot more history to this idea. You make it sound like they invented the whole concept. Perhaps they never knew of the previous devices and really did [re]invent the whole concept from scratch but I doubt it.
      Check this out: As early as 2005 there was a magazine project to build a very similar device using a PIC instead of an AVR. www.elektormagazine.com/magazine/elektor-200504/17935
      That was not an open source project. You had to get the pre-compiled hex code from them and were encouraged to just buy their PCB and chip. Also it only worked with semiconductors, it did not test any passive components. Still, most of the same concepts were there.
      Later there was another PIC based tester offered commercially.
      web.archive.org/web/20060518065316/www.m3electronix.com/sa.html
      I am not sure. This may have been a new iteration of the same design. Perhaps the M3 people licensed the idea or perhaps someone at M3 was the author of the original Elektor article. Or... maybe they designed their own version from scratch. I don't know.
      Well, anyway, I don't mean to take anything away from what the good folks at the AVR Transistor Testor group have created and shared with us. I just wanted to point out that there is a longer history behind the idea.

  • @superdau
    @superdau Před 4 lety

    I repair a lot of stuff (mostly consumer electronics/appliances) and a cheap component tester like this is one of my most used devices for that. What's also nice are those cheap microcontroller based oscilloscopes (I have a JYETech DSO Shell, that I use more often than my "proper" scope).

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I still use my normal oscilloscope most of the time because I am used to it and know the dials ;-)

  • @RichardBronosky
    @RichardBronosky Před 3 lety

    I LOVE THIS VIDEO! So much better than other "review" videos.

  • @joymakerRC
    @joymakerRC Před 3 lety +1

    dude you are awesome , im gonna try to watch all your vids, love the swiss accent, im american, obviously, thanks for all the help in the past and the help you will give me in the future

  • @christosmoutevelis4896

    Great Video, as usual Andreas! Thank you

  • @Scrogan
    @Scrogan Před 4 lety

    I have one of these with the ZIF socket and it’s great. But since I don’t have a 3D printer and didn’t buy one with a case I had the problem of the corners of the little LCD screen snapping off when I tossed it in my luggage when moving flats. Hence only half the rows on the LCD work anymore, so I have to infer where a decimal place is on a value, and sometimes have to swap components to be across pins 1 and 3 to get the value at the right height to not be obscured. So I would recommend getting or making a case for one of these. I’d buy another one, but ever since I got an oscilloscope I’ve been using that with a capacitor and resistor to measure inductances, and I’ve been putting a bit of work into being able to use the XY mode as a curve tracer, so I doubt I’ll be using my part tester for characterising 2-pin components anymore.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Also an interesting project. Did you document the curve tracer for others?

  • @raguaviva
    @raguaviva Před 4 lety

    very useful video, this is getting better every time!

  • @certified-forklifter
    @certified-forklifter Před 4 lety +3

    i also have one. good to know how it works now. thank you

  • @duncanx99
    @duncanx99 Před 4 lety

    Excellent video Andreas - thank you...

  • @laobaivoid4999
    @laobaivoid4999 Před 2 lety

    thx,it really do lots of help for me.im designing a multifunctional elec tester.

  • @sebastian19745
    @sebastian19745 Před 2 lety

    For a project at Uni, I and 3 colleagues tried to do something like this. The project was far too ambitious and was simply impractical as it growed up and up ...and more complicated with every step. All we had at the time was I8031 or early PICs as microcontrollers. Finally, we gave up of measuring and testing analog components and went to digital ICs. That was way simpler. And we used a parallel port interface in a XT (later 386) PC. At first we tried an Spectrum but it needed to load from tape (or to program a EPROM with the software ant those were quite expensive) so we moved to PC. In the end, we made a device that identified most of the 74 TTL and 4000 CMOS ICs and tested them using a database stored on HDD; the programming was in Turbo Pascal. Also it tested the small RAM ICs found in 8-bit computers at the time. All I know is that some professor took the idea a bit further and made a 16bit ISA board and added some functionality.
    All started with the need to replace a full lab bench with one lighter instrument (the oscilloscope, LRC meter, transistor meter were old, huge beasts at the time)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 2 lety +1

      Cool project! AFAIK you still can buy such a TTL tester with all the info about the chips. I do not own one.

  • @subhasarkar8823
    @subhasarkar8823 Před 3 lety

    Nicely explained.

  • @WacKEDmaN
    @WacKEDmaN Před 4 lety +1

    useful && interesting = 1
    great video once again Andreas..all the facts without the BS!.. Excellent!

  • @MalagasOnFire
    @MalagasOnFire Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the video, letting us know the great project they made. The tester struggles to test some triacs such as BT136 because of required current gate which the tester can't give and as result a transistor is represented. But this isn't a bad thing since it is in the specs and for its price it performs pretty good with other components. to test triacs use a simple dimmer circuit as described in the app note of datasheet of the triac.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      As you said, it is written in the documentation that it will fail with many triacs.

  • @AjinkyaMahajan
    @AjinkyaMahajan Před 4 lety +2

    Amazing content ✨👌. After watching this video, I really learned a lot

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic7979 Před 4 lety +1

    Helpful information

  • @mahudson3547
    @mahudson3547 Před 4 lety

    After modifying a pair of SMD tweezers to work with this gadget, I watched this again. What an inspirational piece of engineering. And beautifully described by a true engineer. (It takes one to know one!)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      A good idea! Handy and cheap! Because SMD is a nightmare without tweezers...

    • @mahudson3547
      @mahudson3547 Před 4 lety

      Andreas Spiess - one for your post bag. They are available. Coax unnecessary and a bit stiff. I used super flex. Good with multimeter as well as component tester. m.aliexpress.com/item/33051938845.html

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I have one here. Just did not have the idea to combine it with the transistor tester...

  • @igor_timofeev
    @igor_timofeev Před 4 lety

    Excellent structured matters. Thank you!

  • @IrishvintageTVRadio
    @IrishvintageTVRadio Před 4 lety

    They are really handy, have a few of them. Nice video👍

  • @freedom2000
    @freedom2000 Před 4 lety

    Thanks so much Andreas,
    I didn't even know that these tester existed !
    I will for sure buy one. But could you tell me which one is "the best" in terms of fucntionalities ?
    Thanks
    JP

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      They seem to be similar, I did not do any tests.

    • @freedom2000
      @freedom2000 Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess
      Ok I will just buy the cheapest then !

  • @ebraxcomx8865
    @ebraxcomx8865 Před 4 lety

    Thank you again for all this valuable lessons.

  • @avejst
    @avejst Před 4 lety

    Impressive design 👍
    Thanks for sharing 👍😀

  • @gaborungvari784
    @gaborungvari784 Před 4 lety

    cool! thanks (again) for the video with full of useful details!

  • @Rcbeacon
    @Rcbeacon Před 4 lety

    These are useful devices.
    Way back in the early 1980s I bought a device which I still use about once a year to program a couple of fusible link ROM chips. It is a HiLo model ALL-01 Universal Programmer - from Taiwan I think. The programmer is a box containing pin driver, pin sense and power supply circuits for the 40-pin ZIF socket. This connects to a dedicated AT expansion board in the PC via a 25-pin cable. The software runs in DOS and needs a CPU running at 8 or 12 MHz. To operate the programmer I keep a dedicated 386 12MHz PC running Novel DOS-7 on a CF card pretending to be a hard drive.
    Another feature of the ALL-01 that I didn't seriously use is that it came with software that makes it a universal chip tester, at least for the limited range of chips from the early 1980s - mostly TTL from memory. With modern microcontrollers with analog inputs much less circuitry is needed and we no longer need to be programming and erasing EPROM chips to make our projects work.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Maybe you laugh now: Some EEPROMs including a UV eraser are in the mail. I plan to show the younger how this worked in the 80s...

  • @PauloSantos-cv1bi
    @PauloSantos-cv1bi Před 4 lety

    Great work! Thank you

  • @cor9344
    @cor9344 Před rokem

    Thank you, very interesting! Just ordered one again, the previous one did not survive a charged capacitor...
    For me serial output instead of a display would be sufficient.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před rokem

      Bad luck. Fortunately, they are not too expensive.

  • @ginogalimberti2847
    @ginogalimberti2847 Před 4 lety

    Grandios!
    Zwei Fragen:
    - Welches Programm verwendest Du für die Skizzen auf dem Bildschirm?
    - Welches Programm für die (animierten) Schemas?
    Danke!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Ich verwende PowerPoint wie im „wirklichen“ Leben

  • @javierignaciovaldesvaldes2850

    I saw this tool for the first time in 2014, do not hesitate to buy it, it is very effective for diagnosing components quickly, but I still have my component testing guidelines as in the old school. It seems to me that this device gets dizzy with the triacs according to the position placed, it happened to me on one occasion.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      As I mentioned, it does often not work for triacs because of its limited current and voltage capabilities. It is described in the manual.

  • @peppiino
    @peppiino Před 4 lety

    Thanks again, Andreas!

  • @renelefebvre53
    @renelefebvre53 Před 4 lety

    Super vidéo ! merci

  • @timnaami2307
    @timnaami2307 Před 4 lety

    Can you put a LC combo, either series or parallel, to find resonance?

  • @connecticutaggie
    @connecticutaggie Před 4 lety

    I really need to get one of these; but, I keep procrastinating. In a pinch I just use my DMM. I even sometimes use the diode test mode for transistors.
    With my eyesight not as good as it once was, I find myself using the DMM more and more and the color code less and less.
    BTW, if I was making one of these, I would use the non-linear behavior of semiconductors as a first check for classification. This might have been a nice opportunity to introduce linear vs non-linear devices; but, I also appreciate that you are keeping you videos short.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I think it uses the "non-linearity" a lot because knowing where diodes are is essential to detect the parts. But of course, it is not a curve tracer. Maybe I do once something like that.

  • @stealthblade2992
    @stealthblade2992 Před 4 lety

    Danke Andreas für das tolle Video! Auch die Erwähnung der echten Entwickler - hätte mich auch gewundert, wenn diese Entwicklung aus cn wäre 😉. Ich hatte mir mal vor einem halben Jahr auch ein paar bestellt - 2 monochrom und 2 mit Farbdisplay - sie messen relativ genau und für den Preis unschlagbar.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Wenn man all den Kommentaren glaubt werden diese Dinger überall genutzt :-)

  • @ranger81de
    @ranger81de Před 4 lety

    Dear Andreas, great video as always. Could you please check the link for the component tester on AliExpress? Did not work for me. I was looking for the tester with rotary encoder. Thanks!

    • @DazzaDirect
      @DazzaDirect Před 4 lety +2

      try typing "LC4" ;-]

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      My link should also have a few with rotary encoders. I did not distinguish.

    • @ranger81de
      @ranger81de Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Sorry Andreas, I found them! Thanks again!

  • @kirillsh8383
    @kirillsh8383 Před 4 lety

    I have one, it is really good component detecter and useful measurement device for such a low price.
    It was invented like 10 years ago, riight? do you know is there are projects and does it worse it to replace atmega by some more powerful chip with more accurate ADC or use more precise voltage reference. It is so good that I am curious is it possible to improve it and produce version 2.0 ?

  • @maxtester8824
    @maxtester8824 Před 4 lety +1

    Fünfter ist auch nicht übel.
    Danke für deine Verlässlichkeit! Richtig schweizerisch...
    Sehr interessantes Video mal wieder!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +2

      Und diesmal haben's die Deutschen erfunden...

  • @FixDaily
    @FixDaily Před 4 lety +1

    Arduino accuracy can be increasing by adding a Voltage reference to the AREF pin, with a lower voltage you increase the precision, for example if you add 1V to AREF, 1024 value would be 1V instead of the default 5V, so you gain 0,00098V per step instead of 0,0049V (from the 5V default reference )
    But of course you''ll not be able to read more than 1V, but in this situation you probably don't need to.
    BTW you can update the firmware on those testers (with the original one) and get more features like the counter and individual testing components, pwm generator and so on.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I think, I covered the facts about the improved accuracy in the video I proposed here ;-)

    • @FixDaily
      @FixDaily Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess You did, i just had comment along the video :)
      Great work sir

  • @GreenOpposite
    @GreenOpposite Před 4 lety

    Nice video! Thanks!

  • @ralfjahns3777
    @ralfjahns3777 Před 4 lety +2

    I knew the mikrocontroller.net thread and article for a long time but I learned from you, that I can buy this for cheap from chinese sellers like aliexpress :-)

  • @ShimaKiyoshi
    @ShimaKiyoshi Před 4 lety

    A nice insight Andreas, and all credit to the creator of the project, but it appears it was something of a 're-inventon' of the existing DCA55 Transistor Analyser, which uses the same efficient micro port techniques you described here.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      According to some other comments, there are many "fathers" of this project. Sometimes it is not clear who learned from whom ;-)

  • @georgelewisray
    @georgelewisray Před 4 lety

    ON SO MANY LEVELS >> Thanks So Much !!

  • @iot_enthusiast
    @iot_enthusiast Před 4 lety

    Hi Andreas...what is the name of the conference you are presenting at in Hyderabad, India

  • @lucysluckyday
    @lucysluckyday Před rokem

    How to test an old junction tetrode? Or a 3N80-series mosfet with 4 leads?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před rokem

      I assume manually with the data sheet and the right power supplies/multimeters. I never searched for an automated device for these use cases.

  • @keithking1985
    @keithking1985 Před 4 lety

    He put the design online for anyone to use. I think that was very cool of him to do that for all our benefit. It's a must have devise for any electronics hobbyist to have. I blow the main chip in my one by connecting it to a fully loaded capacitor like a fool. I was checking zener diodes on a board with the little hook leads that came with it, and the I checked some normal diodes that were unfortunately open and the hook leads were still in the zener section of the tester which can put out up to 30 volts. And that's how the capacitor was charged up. Oh well ya learn from you mistakes. Need to get a new one!! I have my eye on the one he showed in this video at 19:45 the GM 328A that has the PWM and signal generator built in. Looks nice. I'll just make a zener tester up from scratch. Kasan tv channel shows how to make a nice little one if any is interested in making one!!!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Maybe you want to leave a link to this video?

    • @keithking1985
      @keithking1985 Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess I don't use any other form of social media apart from this (commenting on videos) and I hate Facebook so much that I won't log on long enough to delete my profile.. no bull.. plus I don't know anyone who is into electronics. (Its far to complicated for "everyone" i know) All I can do is mention it in some furture comments on simular videos. 👍

  • @an1rb
    @an1rb Před 3 lety

    Any ideas on how to update the code to fix the mis-identification of the small signal MOSFET?

  • @iliazark1
    @iliazark1 Před 4 lety

    Connecting an electrolytic capacitor the wrong way around would obviously charge it with the reverse voltage from what it is expecting...Would't that damage the cap?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Good question I asked myself, too. I did not look into it. Maybe somebody knows. I tested a few and they showed a very similar capacity in both directions. However, you see on the oscilloscope, that it uses pin 2 as ground if you connect the cap between 1 and 2. This is how I do it from now on.

  • @duality4y
    @duality4y Před 3 lety

    i have one of those with a color display but it can not test FET's and I don't understand why not?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      That is strange. Never heard of such a „defect“

  • @gacherumburu9958
    @gacherumburu9958 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the info.
    i've always wondered how they work.
    Now i know..

  • @peterjansen5498
    @peterjansen5498 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the comment, "If you are interested in accuracy, RTFM". I remember my technical instructor saying that nearly every day. "Go and RTFM", LOL

  • @evananderson8452
    @evananderson8452 Před 4 lety

    THis is a great tool.
    Beautiful

  • @arthurmorgan8966
    @arthurmorgan8966 Před 2 lety

    I like how you gave credit to inventors. Salute

  • @raykent3211
    @raykent3211 Před 4 lety

    Why the big zif socket if only three pins are needed and not order dependent? Maybe you can't get smaller ones?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      Maybe they are cheap?

    • @killymxi
      @killymxi Před 4 lety

      Pins in the socket are interleaved to allow parts of different sizes to be inserted. (Choosing an interleave pattern is actually an interesting optimisation problem. Different clones solve it with varied success.)
      Zif socket also allows to hold legs of different thickness securely.

    • @raykent3211
      @raykent3211 Před 4 lety

      @@killymxi thanks for that. For maximum flexibility each zif pin needs it's own io port... unless some are marked as unusable. Hard wiring some together would lead to the possibility of two legs of a component being connected to the same port, which couldn't work. Plus, I think only two ports are assignable to the adc, so the plot thickens. Just for amusement, years ago I was sent free samples of an 80 pin microcontroller. Scared of sub millimeter soldering I asked the price of a zif socket. I think it was about 200 pounds. Gave new meaning to the phrase "cheap as chips". But not cheap as sockets....

  • @davidpyper1688
    @davidpyper1688 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Hopefully those guys get credit in the history books of Electrical Engineering. They may not have gotten money for their work, but it sure is one hell of a resume.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      My videos are free of charge, too. I also only get "glory and honor". For me that is ok ;-)

  • @vidasvv
    @vidasvv Před 4 lety

    Excellent exploration !
    TNX 4 the upload! 73 N8AUM

  • @RandomFAI
    @RandomFAI Před 2 lety

    how come this tool can find out the component it is measuring, for example resistors and other components?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 2 lety

      It knows the behavior of the different parts.

  • @erintyres3609
    @erintyres3609 Před 3 lety

    If the tester was built with 1% resistors, would they introduce up to 2% measurement error? Or could inaccurate resistors cause a much greater measurement error?

  • @kruppin
    @kruppin Před 4 lety

    You have function gen etc on your model too, just hold the button down and you will enter menu, then press to go down and hold to select. ;)

  • @petermeiner3574
    @petermeiner3574 Před 4 lety

    Hallo Andreas, danke dafür, das Du die Köpfe hinter diesem tollen Gerät noch mal bekannt machst. Ich wußte es auch schon, aber Du hast hast eben eine viel größere Reichweite. Das wird die beiden bestimmt freuen?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Hoffentlich. Wenn‘s schon mal die Deutschen erfunden haben ;-)

  • @debihsofiane3229
    @debihsofiane3229 Před 3 lety

    Thank you

  • @SandeepSolankis
    @SandeepSolankis Před 4 lety

    Can you do one session, how to ise oscilloscope? Please

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      There are may oscilloscope tutorials available. So I would not be able to add any value, I think.

  • @VikiLab
    @VikiLab Před 4 lety

    Thanks a lot... 😊

  • @BlackXeno
    @BlackXeno Před 4 lety

    Hi, great hint on the creators! But the FW is not written using the Wiring-C, just plain C, so why you call it "Arduino-chip"? Even though, is an Atmega chip...

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      If you want to be completely correct it is a Microchip chip. Atmel does not exist anymore ;-) Just Google Atmel.

    • @BlackXeno
      @BlackXeno Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess But Atmega is still a Microchip serie (taken from Atmel), oder? Regardless, I am aware you used the Arduino term for better general understanding.

  • @erhardfalkenberg4469
    @erhardfalkenberg4469 Před 4 lety

    Dankeschön, Du 'guy mit dem swiss accent'. So viel Herzblut in den Videos und genau so viel Fachwissen. Man lernt in jedem Video etwas Neues.
    Hast Du schon mal Annex Wifi-RDS ausprobiert? Ich halte es für ein ausgezeichnetes Projekt, mit dem sich alle möglichen DIY-Lösungen mit ESP8266 in Windeseile erstellen, testen und modifizieren lassen. (btw: 'accurate' and 'accuracy' are both stressed on the first syllabus in contrast to 'developers' - sorry about that....)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Bitte, gern geschehen. Nein, ich habe noch nie etwas von Annex Wifi-RDS gehört.Vielleicht probiere ich es mal aus.

    • @erhardfalkenberg4469
      @erhardfalkenberg4469 Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess, lohnt sich wirklich. ist ein Basic-ähnlicher Interpreter, der auf dem Chip läuft ähnlich Lua, nur viel leichter zu editieren/debuggen. Läuft bei mir in verschiedenen Projekten tadellos und hat schon die meisten Tasmotas oder EspEasys ersetzt, weil das Skripting viel 'freundlicher' ist. Mqtt, Interrupts, OTA ....was man will. Soeben einen Stromzähler-metrologische LED -Ausleser mit einfachsten Mitteln gebastelt.

  • @bloguetronica
    @bloguetronica Před 4 lety

    A device such as this is on my wish list. However, in this case, I prefer to buy from the original makers. It is a great gesture of you to give them credit.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I do not think they sell it anymore.

    • @bloguetronica
      @bloguetronica Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Well, I guess I'll have to buy a clone, then.

    • @bloguetronica
      @bloguetronica Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Managed to buy one from the Netherlands, on eBay. I'll keep you informed.

  • @NullPointer
    @NullPointer Před 4 lety +1

    If I'm not mistaken, the creator of this device commented on a EEVblog's video similar to this one

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      You are right, there is a big discussion going on.

  • @uvatham
    @uvatham Před 4 lety

    In-depth knowledge

  • @attel2091
    @attel2091 Před 4 lety

    You have to be quite careful with the 5V to I/O on modern chips as the ESD protection diode can burn from constant >200µA current in the long term. Those aren't as robust as old ones and some chip's don't tolerate any current over the diode drop.
    But in hobby use it is usually OK but I've seen this in production use and failures will happen sooner or later when the datasheet absolute max is violated.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      The CEO of Espressif made this statement. So I hope he asked his engineers before ;-)

  • @darkstar2111
    @darkstar2111 Před 4 lety

    Recognition of the original authors is very important. Either useful and interesting video!

  • @CTCTraining1
    @CTCTraining1 Před 4 lety +3

    Great video, thanks for sharing some of the ‘black magic’ hidden in these testers.
    Just wondering if you might have considered doing a sort of buyers guide for digital oscilloscopes (not a massive survey with recommendations) but just explaining the features and which may be worth looking out for. Just a thought.
    Many thx

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      There are quite a few videos around for oscilloscopes. Dave from EEV blog does them from time to time. For me, Most of us can live with a cheap Siglent or Rigol. I have no knowledge about the USB oscilloscopes.

  • @U8uxa8SP
    @U8uxa8SP Před 2 lety

    It's criminal that the inventors aren't credited and earn royalties from such a brilliant invention.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 2 lety

      This is how things happen these days... Not good, I agree.

  • @mdaslamknl
    @mdaslamknl Před 3 lety

    Hi
    Do you have stl file of 3d printed case
    Can you share please
    Thanks

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      Unfortunately not. I usually share everything I have :-(