The Historical Muhammad in Western Scholarship
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- This video extract is taken from 'Jesus and Muhammad in Western Scholarship' where Usman Sheikh discusses the historical Jesus, the historical Muhammad, and Quranic intertextuality • Jesus and Muhammad in ...
Whoever amongst you worshipped Muhammad, then Muhammad is dead, but whoever worshipped Allah, Allah is alive and will never die. - Abu Bakr
And rely upon the Ever-Living who does not die, and exalt [ Allah ] with His praise.
(Al-Quran 25:58)
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدۡ خَلَتۡ مِن قَبۡلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُۚ أَفَإِيْن مَّاتَ أَوۡ قُتِلَ ٱنقَلَبۡتُمۡ عَلَىٰٓ أَعۡقَٰبِكُمۡۚ وَمَن يَنقَلِبۡ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيۡهِ فَلَن يَضُرَّ ٱللَّهَ شَيۡئًاۗ وَسَيَجۡزِى ٱللَّهُ ٱلشَّٰكِرِينَ
Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels [to unbelief]? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful.
(Al-Quran 3: 144)
The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs ...
(Al-Quran 5: 75)
They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy the Messiah, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
(Al- Quran 5: 17)
26:52 This statement makes us more appreciate the works of Bukhari and Muslims and others who did the authentication of Hadith. May Allah bless them all and give them the Highest Paradise.
western academia are late more than 1000 year to reach Muslim research level how to authenticate narration and narrator.
If western inferiority made them not wanting to take Muslim history from Muslim then they should apply these to every body else including but not limited to the Greece, Roman, Jew, Christian or any other
No double standard
@@ahmedalotaibi4477 Western scholars do examine Jewish and Christian texts, and have done so for centuries. There is no double standard
@@magnuseng3345
Not talking about examining, they did that with Muslim for century and failed but they tend to ignore and want to start from Zero with Muslim but not with other ethnicity or believe Historical record
The Arabic proverb states, "the more I know, the more I know how much I am an ignorant".
Except in Islam, the more I know, the more i believe.
The 1st proverb still applies to Islam as well tho
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One thing about Mr. Williams - is the fact that being well-read himself, he nevertheless invites actual experts of the field to discuss a topic and present it to the audience. It's like inviting a trained and an experienced electrician to fix the wires in the house. And not to invite some Jay-Smith-neighbour-electricians, who tend to know everything.
That was gold
I became more proud of my prophet, Muhammad PBUH.
He is just a man who lived in the desert in the middle ages, but hundreds or even thousands of doctors and professors in the modern era are busy collecting traces and records of his life.
Allahuakbar !
LOL
Peace be upon him
Thanks again for another perfect extract of a very important discussion!
Say صلى الله عليه وسلم
Peace be upon him
The wise points to the moon and the unwise is looking at the finger instead...
@@sasaki_Kojiro_sensei لاَ تَجْعَلُوا دُعَاءَ الرَّسُولِ بَيْنَكُمْ كَدُعَاءِ بَعْضِكُمْ بَعْضاً
صدق الله العظيم
@@uaisalqarni786 jamil ya akhi next time put the sourat and aya please, but what does it have to do with saying salla Allah 3alayhi wa salam after everytime you mentione him ?
Peace be upon him
صلى الله عليه وسلم
Syedna Mohammad Rasul Allah saw. Always recite salat o salam when saying Prophets name . Jazak Allah Khayran Saeen
Syedna ? What is that ? What is saw ?
@@sasaki_Kojiro_sensei saw = sallallahu alayhi wa sallam = peace and blessings of Allah be upon him---- Muslims are obligated to use this honorific when mentioning the prophet (saw). Syedna is another spelling of Sayyidina which basically means "our master" (I think with a lower case m).
@@JellyOfTheBean so it should be s. a. a. w. s.....? So you are so lasy you can't even spell it and you tell me all this is out of respect ?🤔 Saydouna comes from sayd means mister or Sir or like a land lord was called in some countries... this is just your culture getting into your religion and nothing more... and sayd is not even arabic it's berber from north africa... The prophet pbuh was never called such titles in his life time, he refused any honorific titles according to some hadiths...
@@JellyOfTheBean jazak Allah Khayran brother
@@sasaki_Kojiro_sensei I never said sayyidina was obligatory to say, I was only informing you what it meant. Also, in our speech, we always say the entire phrase for saw outloud. I don't see the problem with abbreviating it in text. Language and linguistic nuance is more abstract than the bias you are putting into all of this. Perhaps you are more correct and it should be written out in its entirety every time, but to say it's wrong to use the abbrev is a very large statement that ignores many general facets of textual nuance.
Thank you brother Paul this was very informative 🙂🙂
Peace and blessings be upon our beloved Prophet Muhammad 💗
Peace be upon him
Ma sha' Allah, Dr. William's academic background and knowledge are amazing.
I was really happy to hear the scholar quote my professor Walid Saleh. Brilliant man and he taught me a lot. I hope you get a chance to interview him one day Paul!
Hazrat Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is the Greatest man in the world 💞
ماشاء اللهَ تباركَ الله الحمدًُلِلّٰهِ
Thank you
Well done
I don't understand the people who say "no Muhammad". Why would whole of Arabia reverts to monotheism from polytheism. Alllof a sudden. Just why.?? definitely something very very significant had to happen.
I keep saying the ORAL Qur'aan was the REAL ORIGINAL Qur'aan that was memorised by thousands of believers. This protected it from any kind of corruption! To this day, nobody can make mistakes in its recitation without being spotted by even kids!!!
BAFS
Your background is driving me crazy, my adhd brain couldn't focus until I know what that carving/crack on the wall is?!
has anyone of you read the books of Hela Ouardi? these are in French and Arabic, and also being translated in English, and contain much valuable information.
I would hope, Mr Williams, if you pronounce the prophet Muhammad's name ( peace would be upon him) as such, with the letter U emphasized, which is the proper way of pronunciation. We greatly appreciate your time and efforts as well as the rich content of your videos.
I have purchased some of your recommended books.
May Allah bless you and your work.
Mahmoud Agrama.
Mashallah
MashaAllah
You enhanced your pronunciation of Arabic 😂🥳 saying Mohamed with a little bit of Arabic ( H = حـ )
Ha = ح
@@Faisal-tc4ih
Really? Bro, it is ح if separated, but حـ if attached in a word like مُحمد. And, I wrote it in the way it is in مُحمد, to make it easier for non arabs, as most of them only know its shape when attached. 😃
@@osamamostafa1996 Mu-ha-mm-ad .. مُحَمَّد
Its muxamed in(Somali) I think this is correct.
@@Faisal-tc4ih what do you want to prove then? I told you the reason I wrote it in the attached form, and you keep showing off your unnecessary knowledge concerning my purpose of writing it in that way? mmmm, interesting!
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Paul, i came across Catholic Cathechism paragraph 841 which concludes Muslims will attain salvation. I was quite surprised by that as I thought Christians condemned all non Christians to hell.
Greetings from Florida, I try to respect believers in Islam and I have no desire to condemn "all non Christians to hell." I'm a Christian believer but I know people all over the world have different worldviews from their cultures and experience. I do believe that Jesus was more than a prophet and He taught us about God and Heaven. I don't like to argue with people or judge. Only God can judge peoples' hearts and intentions.
So... may God's peace be with you and yours.....
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Jesus(pbuh )was also a messenger just like Moses (pbuh)before him and Mohammad ( pbuh) after him. They all taught the same one message of One God and His heaven AND hell. Don’t forget to mention hell.😊
@@johnbrzykcy3076 thanks John. Best wishes
Road to 100k ✌️
A.a mr.paul I would like to have a da'wa video with you
There are lives under light as well as in the dark. The power of light is to shed, to spread understanding the circumstances of nature of living in the dark without burning, burying because there are still good, harmless living in the dark as well dark minded, hearted in the light honour we should admit it honestly. How we determine, judging living is not just by reading books, words of prophets and how honestly we implementing, leading. Those in darkness can be enlighten and the same process when in the light do dark matter to dark side. Justice of holy. No one sided principle. Let both liveable control by holy Justice. Fair. Wrong should not be right placed, right should not be wrong placed
Please note that the saying of the Sahaba , not refering to the prophet ( SWS), is not considered as Hadeeth.
They are also referred to as hadith since they are narrations however they aren’t the same thing of course
Modern group genetic studies are proving that the quraish, and in turn prophet Muhammad, were not only israelites (which explains why the quran addresses the children of Israel constantly and far more frequently than to jews) but were kohanim. with the identification of the Cohen Modal Haplotype among the jewish kohanim, which traces their lineage to a common ancestor who lived 3000 years ago in levant, genetic studies done on the remnants of the quraish and the Hashemite royal family of Jordan have found the same CMH among all the quraish and the Jordan Hashemite royal family. therefore, prophet Muhammad was not a descendant of Ismael but Isaac and Aaron. this also explains why the quran has Moses as the most frequently mentioned prophet besides Joseph. the quraish were sadducees who had moved to arabia in 165 bce and 70 ce. archeological studies by non-muslims have also proven that the mother (hence the maternal grandmother) and the paternal grandmother of Muhammad were not only jewish but belonged to the kohen tribe of banu najjar in Medina. the fact that there was intermarriage between banu najjar who were kohanim and banu hashim, the clan of the prophet, is proof that the clan of hashim were kohanim as kohanim do not marry outside, even to israelites (the name kohanim gave to the children of Israel who were not kohanim). modern genetic and archeological studies is removing the veil on the real identity of the prophet Muhammad that the Ishmaelite Arab historians such as ibn ishaq had put on the prophet to make him an Ishmaelite.
so much gymnastic
Well that's is very comon in the scholar in Islam when they tell you Hadith and gave you there interpretation they will tell you in the end if he said that what you think is wrong don't take it if you think it was right they that and apply it to your daily Life.
Evidence is definitive.
It is my understanding that the Qur'ān was written down-as so many of they who could recite it were being killed in battle!
Did Allāh swt command them to write it down?
Was there a lack of faith in Allāh swt that He could not preserve His words without the aid of men; even if everyone who had memorised it died?
Tie the camel before placing your trust in Allah is the advice the Prophet Muhammad (may his name be exalted) gave to a companion who had his camel stolen after leaving it unattended. This became an usul, to always do what you can and then rely on Allah. The efforts to preserve the Quran were just the Sahaba (may Allah be pleased with them) doing what they could. It doesn't show lack of faith in the slightest.
It’s very natural if the reciters were being killed in the battles. I don’t know whether Allah commanded or not but the people in order to preserve the Book put it down in writing. You can ask the question why were they memorizing it in the first place? It’s pretty logical.
You got silent after the replies... what happened? 👀
Paul Williams says that he read the Koran and converted to Islam. Would he care to say why❓
But the manuscripts mentioned here ( are not complete qourans) instead of a complete qouran its for instance the sura 18,19, and 20, in the Birmingham manuscript nstead it is quite sure that the scribe of this manuscript was written by a christian scribe, because its the praise of Mariam and the ( Christian scribe identify Mariam as the mother of god) in the Birmingham manuscript, so its very likly that the qouran contain christian verses , from.much earlier christian sources postulsted has been that Mahmut was very influenced from Arian christiance and nazarean christian, that still practiced Jewish law. or maybe the christian scribe was as in the former christian nun that learned to read and write in a christian monostary, before being called home to marry a christian merchant, and then remarry a pagan before finally marrying Mahmut the saracen, Khadidja, that of course was free to put in her own ideas and interpretation in eleged suras , and if she also was inspired by the arian monks and the jewish commeteries upon torah is being copied in the qouran, most likely are from the Jewish priesthood or the nazarian christian convergation, since Abu bakr was a hanif much closer to the jewish belifsystem, rather than christian , denying that christ is gods son and so forth, thats is probably Abu bakrs interpretations. The informans also put in Alistair the coptic christians Saint wording, and it was he that was called Muhammed by the arabic christians and not Mahmut the saracen , the qourans Muhammed is a fusion of two different individuals with totally different belifsystems and totally different amounts of children and different amounts of wifes. There is no possibility to distuinguise between who said what, that information is lost , who said who, and Alistair the coptic church saint was born around 490 ad. 20:14
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Any unbiased person knows Islam has perfectly preserved the teachings n sayings of the prophets. Oral tradition was 100% accurate back than because the Muslims were the best of character n would not lie. The problem was Arabia had no writing material n did not have many writers. It took like 100 years or so but very quickly Arabia became the most knowledgeable region n ushered in the golden age of Islam with some of the most brilliant scholars n theologians of all time. Just look back n look at the character of a ibn Arabi, tayimmah, and warriors like salahuddin and baibars. Baibars n qutuz actually saved the whole world of Muslims, Jews n Christians. They defeated the mongols for the first time in ain jalut, if they hadn't mongols would of sacked Jerusalem next then went to Arabia, Africa n Christian Europe eventually. So u see the Muslims literally saved the world with intellect (medicine) and by having strong army's n warriors that defeated crusaders n mongols that were destroying cities n its population. When Muslims conquered land they let people live n gave them rights n protection thru the jizaya which was used to make cities flourish.
So we can't construct his biography.
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ROYAL HOUSE OF DAVID, The Everlasting Covenant: according to DNA geneticists studied the Northern Arab tribes to which Muhammad belonged to. The tests suggested most of them were descendants of the same man that 50% of the Y-haplotype Cohen match descended from. In other words, the prophet Mohammed is a patrilineal descendant of a Cohen and has Israelite blood.
There is no human being on this earth until now whose behavior and words are usually remembered and some are recorded by other people.
Some of these notes and narrations have been lost, changed, and some have been added to by people. The notes and narratives have also been spread all over the world.
As such, there must have been quite a lot of trouble in collecting and selecting these notes and narratives in an attempt to get to the original or close to the original.
In the context of the content of the original teachings of Islam, in fact the Qur'an alone is sufficient for Muslims. The hadith is only used as an additional reinforcement reference for the application of Islamic teachings.
THE INDIAN GUY SAYING THE NAMES WITHOUT THE RESPECT IT'S BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KN OTHER THAN THAT.
"Au lieu de ce mystère sous lequel les autres religions enveloppent leurs origines, celle-ci [sc. la religion musulmane] naît en pleine histoire; ses racines sont à fleur de sol. La vie de son fondateur nous est aussi bien connue que celle de tel réformateur de XVème siècle."
Renan, Ernest. "Mahomet et les origines de l'islamisme." Revue des deux Mondes, 1851/4 p. 1065
No history on mohammed from 7th century...fact
Compared the religious books the bible would clarify as a hadith book in reality its no way near the Quran.
>>>> the bible would clarify as a hadith book
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Bible does not even come close. Hadiths have the chain of narrators documented which make verification of its authenticity possible; the Bible has none.
Though all Prophets and Messengers of God were TOP Righteous People but we Muslims are making mistake from 1200 years, which is: We forgot that "Islam is a Message (Quran); not Messenger". Quran makes clear in many verses that Sole Task which God gave to Messenger was *NO MORE THAN* to deliver Quran to people clearly. We read in Quran 28:56, 72:21, 2:272 that God tells Messenger, say to people: that I cannot guide you toward right path but only Allah guides. In 2:272, God addresses Messenger, and says: O Messenger: it is not your duty to guide People but Allah's. This is the reason: Prophet and four Caliphs left behind nothing else except Standalone, Complete, fully detailed, made-easy Self-explanatory Quran 54:40, 6:114, 16:89, 25:33, 15:9, 18:54.
Several verses of Quran make Clear that Messenger was *mere an Agency* of Allah. This is the reason: *Obeying Allah and Obeying Rasool* is same thing and that is: to obey Quran, which Messenger only left behind.
Therefore; after landing of Last book of God "Quran"; after consigning all previous scriptures to Oblivion 2:105-2:106, 5:48; Quran has superseded all previous Scriptures. So, now: Islam=Quran, Full Stop.
There is only and only one way to please Allah and Prophet Mohammad on the day of judgment; and that way is: to follow all laws and ethical codes of Last book of God, in which Deen-Islam has been finalized.
So one true path of one God "Islam" 3:19, 3:85 preached by all Prophets including Moses and Jesus is not a Religion=Theocracy but is DEEN=Divinely Prescribed Way of Life.
Our Sectarian Imams have been spreading a crude lie from 1200 years by saying: in verses 2:105-106, Quran abrogates its own verses but this is incorrect. Context of Quran shows: that these verses are pointing toward the abrogation of outdated laws of previous scriptures. Many Top Scholars and Professors of Islam has rejected that false doctrine of Abrogation which Sunni and Shia imams have been spreading from 1200 years.
Neither ancient copies of Christian Gospels contain fables of Ascension and Return of Jesus; and Virgin Birth nor Quran approves that two stories. Jesus was normal mortal human born from Joseph and Mary, and though he did not die on the Cross 4:157 but died at very old age naturally 5:117. This is the whole Truth. Know that Quran is Truth of all truths.
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I don't know why muslims nowadays don't say (saw) or (pbuh) after taking name of the prophet (saw). A disgrace for the ummah. It is disrespect to the prophet (saw)
No it's not ! what do you have to say about the subject ?
Your face is disrespect to humankind please change it!
@@sasaki_Kojiro_sensei we are always supposed to send salawat on the prophet s.a.w when mentioning his name.
@@rustyray420 send salawat ? How do you do that ? And where do you send them ? Salawat ON the prophet referes to the tasbih part of the salat where you suplicate Allah so that he blesses the prophet pbuh like he blessed Ibrahim pbuh before. Now my question is do you think you have to do that every time you mention the prophet even on debats and speeches ? Use your brain...
Don’t use SAW, write it fully.