Good afternoon from New England Drums are my main instrument (41yrs) but I learned to play guitar (20yrs) so I could record riffs and ideas to loop them to jam over I've always like Laney's bc Jerry Cantrell from AIC used them along with early EVH Amps on the DIRT album that Eddie had gifted Jerry at the end of the 1991 VH/AIC tour I never considered AIC "Grunge" but more Metal/Doomy and Jerry's use of the Laney's and EVH gear really set his sound...and AIC... apart from the other Seattle bands Imo 🤘🧐✌️😎
Before I say this, know that I absolutely LOVE Laney amps, and the Ironheart is no exception, however, how many versions of the Ironheart do we actually NEED? I realize that this is a review of the all tube, BCC Ironhearts, but if Laney would give us a Loudbox/Lead top/Dual Top version of the Supergroup, I would 100% purchase (and probably even preorder) one without so much as a second thought...just saying
It would help if you can show the versatility of the amp . Ie clean , crunch , midrange tones that most gigging musicians might use . This just seems like a metal amp demo , although I enjoyed that jam at the end . Loved the phrasing .
Hi guys ! I've been waiting for this review for so long ! But I'm a little disappointed because we can't hear the sounds of the combo. Does it have clean "jazz" sound as said on Laney website ? How does it take pedals ? Quality of fx loop ? Hi gain sounds ? Crunch sounds ? I was almost ready to buy it but I still have too much questions without answers to decide. Perhaps in another review ? Thanx from France !
The weird sound you hear is from overloading the pre amp I think, since he basically is boosting with the active pickups and then adding the boost circuit (which has a lot of range) you get this weird farting out sound of gain.
Hmm.. closer inspection of the back panel on the Andetons site shows it claims to be "Handcrafted in UK" , "Designed and made in the UK" and also "Made in China" - seems unlikely all are true, my guess is the last one is true, fair enough, nothing against China built so long as QC is good but having the three statements on the back of the amp is a bit confusing/misleadng...
Ah... looks like the issue might be with the photo Andertons are using, I downloaded the manual from Laney's website and it has a photo of the back panel which does NOT have the "Made in China" line so yeah looks like UK made, nice!
When did you guys program John to play analogue gear? I didn't think the Digital John 2000 could do that. Firmware update I bet- seems to have installed properly- it sounds great. Question- What's the attenuation on the fx loop about? Is that for when you want to use an external preamp or something directly into the return and it's a bit too hot or something? Because I can't imagine why I would ever want to attenuate my delay or reverb- I would just turn them down or adjust the wet/dry mix on the pedal. My Blackstar Club 40 has it to- but I don't know what it's really for. Or is it about reducing the amount your preamp is driving your reverb or delay? That actually makes a little more sense to me- though tbh I don't see why you wouldn't just turn the preamp down but- anyone? Someone out there knows what it's for.
In the opening jam, there was so much distortion that neither guitar could make itself heard. These high gain sounds are great in the bedroom, especially with the attenuators, but they never work (for me, anyway) in gig situations. Contrast this with the lower-gain closing jam, where the cleaner sounds allowed both guitars to be heard. That's much more representative of real gig settings. Anyway: anyone considering a quality valve amp should look seriously at Laney.
John, it’s not a MIDI input, it’s a DIN socket for the footswitch. I don’t get why Laney went away from the original design, where they also had jacks, so you could use a standard relay switcher. If that foot controller shits the bed, there’s no way to switch channels. It’s a cool amp, and it sounds better than in the video, but a crap design.
I’ve owned my ironheart for a few years amazing head, but I don’t hear a difference in mine and the BCC version, the Laney speakers are holding them back, V30s are sooo much better
That was the messiest, mushiest sound I've heard in any intro. Mindless shredding and noise is not tasteful. Purposeful shredding, great. I like both of you not a personal dig but it was ear bleeding level bad 😂
To those of you telling me, "no one asked" and "ok gramps"... Firstly they did ask. They asked me what I thought and to drop a comment in the comment section. So you're completely wrong. What, in reality, nobody asked, was for you to comment on my comment. So I'll say it back, nobody asked for you to reply. But I'm correct and you were wrong. So what you doing commenting here? No one asked. And call me gramps all you like, if you listen back to the intro and you think it sounded good, I can only imagine the "calibre" of your playing. You must be so bad I bet your mum can't wait for you to leave home 😂 silly kids.
Aw gee sus why all of that awful distortion ? Are these people unable to play MUSIC ? I want to hear what an amp actually SOUNDS LIKE without the kind of racket that would leave our gigs unpaid.
I love the sound of the Ironheart. The original was great I love that a British brand had gone for the 6l6 sound instead of el34.
IRTH and me, 10 years of love :), nice amp and ultra versatile
I love my Ironheart, one of the most underrated amp brands.
Really don't know how you managed to make these Laneys sound so bad, but goddamn you managed it.
Because they own victory 😂
Interesting yes... its the worst sounding video I've heard so far hahahah
I remember the previous generation. Both the 212 combo and the irt15 portable head. Both great
Good afternoon from New England Drums are my main instrument (41yrs) but I learned to play guitar (20yrs) so I could record riffs and ideas to loop them to jam over I've always like Laney's bc Jerry Cantrell from AIC used them along with early EVH Amps on the DIRT album that Eddie had gifted Jerry at the end of the 1991 VH/AIC tour I never considered AIC "Grunge" but more Metal/Doomy and Jerry's use of the Laney's and EVH gear really set his sound...and AIC... apart from the other Seattle bands Imo 🤘🧐✌️😎
great vid guys , loved the 120 head, and cab hum.
thanks .
Before I say this, know that I absolutely LOVE Laney amps, and the Ironheart is no exception, however, how many versions of the Ironheart do we actually NEED? I realize that this is a review of the all tube, BCC Ironhearts, but if Laney would give us a Loudbox/Lead top/Dual Top version of the Supergroup, I would 100% purchase (and probably even preorder) one without so much as a second thought...just saying
a Loudpedal explicitly modelled after the Soupergroup would sell like crazy.
@@ithemba I wholeheartedly agree. So would a Klipp Loudpedal
It would help if you can show the versatility of the amp . Ie clean , crunch , midrange tones that most gigging musicians might use . This just seems like a metal amp demo , although I enjoyed that jam at the end . Loved the phrasing .
Okay, if nobody has given that BC Rich a nickname yet, the Pickle Fork would be a good one.
The winkle picker
Bc rich has never built a guitar nice enough to deserve a nick name.
Hi guys ! I've been waiting for this review for so long ! But I'm a little disappointed because we can't hear the sounds of the combo. Does it have clean "jazz" sound as said on Laney website ? How does it take pedals ? Quality of fx loop ? Hi gain sounds ? Crunch sounds ? I was almost ready to buy it but I still have too much questions without answers to decide. Perhaps in another review ? Thanx from France !
Very versatile and sound pretty great imo
Did you guys put a LPF on this video? All of the guitar parts sound muffled.
Maybe thats just a signature of the amp sound... I once played a laney and I remember I had the same feeling.
They sound nice and warm with the LP. I don't like the sound of the BC.
That BC is horrendous in various ways
The weird sound you hear is from overloading the pre amp I think, since he basically is boosting with the active pickups and then adding the boost circuit (which has a lot of range) you get this weird farting out sound of gain.
Website shows both the 60W and 120W as being the same price: £1099 ?
Oh my god, where's the Digital John bit?
Expired after the 1274th overuse.
It's now Valve Amp John.
Ayyyeeee I peeped the “Lightning Strike” Judas Priest riff at around 9:45 it’s such a killer riff and song. Just learned it a month ago or so myself 🤘
Hmm.. closer inspection of the back panel on the Andetons site shows it claims to be "Handcrafted in UK" , "Designed and made in the UK" and also "Made in China" - seems unlikely all are true, my guess is the last one is true, fair enough, nothing against China built so long as QC is good but having the three statements on the back of the amp is a bit confusing/misleadng...
Ah... looks like the issue might be with the photo Andertons are using, I downloaded the manual from Laney's website and it has a photo of the back panel which does NOT have the "Made in China" line so yeah looks like UK made, nice!
The footswitch is made in China .
When did you guys program John to play analogue gear? I didn't think the Digital John 2000 could do that. Firmware update I bet- seems to have installed properly- it sounds great.
Question- What's the attenuation on the fx loop about? Is that for when you want to use an external preamp or something directly into the return and it's a bit too hot or something? Because I can't imagine why I would ever want to attenuate my delay or reverb- I would just turn them down or adjust the wet/dry mix on the pedal. My Blackstar Club 40 has it to- but I don't know what it's really for. Or is it about reducing the amount your preamp is driving your reverb or delay? That actually makes a little more sense to me- though tbh I don't see why you wouldn't just turn the preamp down but- anyone? Someone out there knows what it's for.
In the opening jam, there was so much distortion that neither guitar could make itself heard. These high gain sounds are great in the bedroom, especially with the attenuators, but they never work (for me, anyway) in gig situations. Contrast this with the lower-gain closing jam, where the cleaner sounds allowed both guitars to be heard. That's much more representative of real gig settings. Anyway: anyone considering a quality valve amp should look seriously at Laney.
Which version are you guys using? The EL84 or 6L6 version?
They come std with 6L6. Option for EL34.
Guys, the sound quality has definitely improved!
These must have been miked up wrong or something...
Great video
Love mine
Did you get one of these new BCC versions?
Isn't BBC african?
I never even considered plugging into a laney, and after hearing this video i never will.
Soooo there you have the "reasonable priced" metal amp ... nice ... and they do come with all the extras you need
Very lacking in sparkle, sterile and lifeless - uninspiring, it also seems very noisy (in a bad way)
They just dialed it in like ass. I have the 60W and it's one of my favourite amps
@@Buttface1981 Fair enough, I thought the previous series sounded ok so I wondered.
Obviously each to their own and all that, but this amp is certainly capable of more
@@Buttface1981. Did you get one of these new BCC versions?
Looks like they didn't fix the boost knob. They just made it red.
No DIGITAL JOHN?
WHERE IS DIGITAL JOHN AND GENTLEMAN BEN!!!!!!!!!!
John, it’s not a MIDI input, it’s a DIN socket for the footswitch. I don’t get why Laney went away from the original design, where they also had jacks, so you could use a standard relay switcher. If that foot controller shits the bed, there’s no way to switch channels. It’s a cool amp, and it sounds better than in the video, but a crap design.
The Ironhearts have always had that DIN socket for the foot switch. Totally agree, it's a poor choice of connection, but it's not a recent change.
I’ve owned my ironheart for a few years amazing head, but I don’t hear a difference in mine and the BCC version, the Laney speakers are holding them back, V30s are sooo much better
OH! There is a difference ... 1200 quids...
Intro Jam😂 that intro was a bleeding ear piercing mess! Nothing personal but you could have done so much better or give it to Danish Pete
Please uncover the db display this really upsets me 😢😂😂
Showing off Laney amps and not featuring an SG feels criminal...
I just don’t get that Heavy chugg sounds terrible what’s wrong with just a slight break up tone
What is the point of having low wattage to play at 1 watt or whatever but no headphone jack? Sometimes at home even 1 watt is too loud at 3am 🙄🤬
Warning! You should NEVER EVER play zunes on yout tube amp using AUX IN! Drum beats have a to steep signal and will wear out your tubes quite fast.
BBC isn’t a broadcast company to us here in America 🤣🤣
Put the Gibsons away and play the daddy of your Gibson Les Paul EPIPHONE!!
Does anyone want or even play Gibson anymore?
@@user-qn1tw4nk1eold people, sheople, and Trump supporters.
@@trevorD1156. Well yeah. Cuz the Trump supporters have jobs and can afford them.
It’s not the Laney Lionheart … it’s the Laney Ironheart …
Original was 500 € while this one is 1700 €... I would never buy this one...
That was the messiest, mushiest sound I've heard in any intro. Mindless shredding and noise is not tasteful. Purposeful shredding, great. I like both of you not a personal dig but it was ear bleeding level bad 😂
No one asked
Totally agree with you. After this “ review “ many will think twice about getting one of those amps.
Okay gramps
To those of you telling me, "no one asked" and "ok gramps"... Firstly they did ask. They asked me what I thought and to drop a comment in the comment section. So you're completely wrong. What, in reality, nobody asked, was for you to comment on my comment. So I'll say it back, nobody asked for you to reply. But I'm correct and you were wrong. So what you doing commenting here? No one asked.
And call me gramps all you like, if you listen back to the intro and you think it sounded good, I can only imagine the "calibre" of your playing. You must be so bad I bet your mum can't wait for you to leave home 😂 silly kids.
Beardys rhythm is to forward in the mix again like the last video.
Aw gee sus why all of that awful distortion ? Are these people unable to play MUSIC ? I want to hear what an amp actually SOUNDS LIKE without the kind of racket that would leave our gigs unpaid.
Sounds great in the room, awful out of it
This review was 100% better: czcams.com/video/T5EfRmG6WxQ/video.html
First
Well done, didn't think you had it in you.
fist ✊
bump.
🦫🇺🇸🍩🖖🤞🤘🔥🚂💰
That sounds just awful just hurts my ears at low volume