Math Olympiad | A Nice Algebra Problem | Find the values of X

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  • @ashkanshekarchi7753
    @ashkanshekarchi7753 Před 5 dny +8

    Explain the solving strategy and ideas rather than a long confusing mechanical calculation

  • @opulence3222
    @opulence3222 Před 5 dny +6

    Very confusing procedure.

  • @is7728
    @is7728 Před 5 dny +4

    Let h be x + 1.
    (h + 1)^4 + h^4 = 17
    h^4 + 4h^3 + 6h^2 + 4h + 1 + h^4 = 17
    2h^4 + 4h^3 + 6h^2 + 4h - 16 = 0
    h^4 + 2h^3 + 3h^2 + 2h - 8 = 0
    When h = 1, the eqn is satisfied.
    ∴ x = 0
    h^3 + 3h^2 + 6h + 8 = 0
    When h = -2, the eqn is satisfied.
    ∴ x = -3
    h^2 + h + 4 = 0
    h = ( -1 +- √(1 - 16) ) / 2
    = -0.5 +- √15 i / 2
    ∴ x = -1.5 +- √15 i / 2

  • @maximcoroli8306
    @maximcoroli8306 Před 3 dny

    17 = 1**4 +2**4 or (-1)**4+(-2)**4
    х+2=2, х+1=1 => x=0
    x+2=-1, x+1=-2 = x=-3

  • @is7728
    @is7728 Před 5 dny +1

    2^4 + 1^4 = 17
    (-1)^4 + (-2)^4 = 17

  • @joiceroosita5317
    @joiceroosita5317 Před 3 dny

    Mine is more simple.
    (x+2)⁴ + (x+1)⁴ = 17
    [(x+1)+1]⁴ + (x+1)⁴ = 17
    example ; y = (x+1)
    (y+1)⁴ + y⁴ = 17
    y⁴ + 4y³ + 6y² + 4y + 1 + y⁴ - 17 = 0
    2y⁴ + 4y³ + 6y² + 4y - 16 = 0
    2(y⁴ + 2y³ + 3y² +2y - 8) = 0
    Lets find the factors of y
    Using polinomial
    Factors of y⁴ + 2y³ + 3y² + 2y - 8 = 0
    (y - 1) → y = 1 → 1+2+3+2-8 = 0 (ok!)
    (y + 2) → y = -2 → -8+12-12+8 = 0 (ok.!)
    The others y = i
    So, we get y = 1 and y = -2
    (y = x+1)
    y = 1
    x+1 = 1 → x = 0 (check ok.!)
    y = -2
    x+1 = -2 → x = -3 (check ok.!)
    So, x = 0, -3

  • @thomaslangbein297
    @thomaslangbein297 Před 2 dny

    What did we learn?

  • @user-nd7th3hy4l
    @user-nd7th3hy4l Před 5 dny +1

    X=0 et.....

  • @yiutungwong315
    @yiutungwong315 Před 17 hodinami

    Real Number
    X = 0 and (-3)
    16 + 1 = 17

  • @edwardwang7929
    @edwardwang7929 Před 3 dny

    Immediately guessing, x=0.

  • @user-fl1go2lr3c
    @user-fl1go2lr3c Před 2 dny +3

    Is here anybody, who automatically calculated that x=0😂😂
    Being honest, I didn't watch till the end, because I already thought that 2^4+1^4 equals to 17
    And second x equals to -3

    • @laoxian899
      @laoxian899 Před 2 dny +1

      Yes, at the first glance one can get the two results, since both parentheses must be 1/-1 and 2/-2.

    • @abbasmasum1633
      @abbasmasum1633 Před 9 hodinami

      The goal is to learn how to apply several rules of algebra to find the solutions. This channel is the best there is and PLEASE stop offering guess and check solutions. He's connecting the problem to so many profound concepts. I truly like his methods and if they are too long, then at least offer a better way.

    • @professorsargeanthikesclim9293
      @professorsargeanthikesclim9293 Před 7 hodinami

      Did you also find the complex solutions?

  • @walterwen2975
    @walterwen2975 Před 5 dny +1

    Math Olympiad: (x + 2)⁴ + (x + 1)⁴ = 17; x = ?
    Let: y = x + 2; y⁴ + (y - 1)⁴ = 2y⁴ - 4y³ + 6y² - 4y + 1 = 17
    2y⁴ - 4y³ + 6y² - 4y = 16, y⁴ - 2y³ + 3y² - 2y - 8 = 0
    (y⁴ - 2y³ + y²) + (2y² - 2y) - 8 = 0, (y² - y)² + 2(y² - y) - 8 = 0
    (y² - y - 2)(y² - y + 4) = (y + 1)(y - 2)(y² - y + 4) = 0
    y + 1 = 0, y = - 1; y - 2 = 0, y = 2 or y² - y + 4 = 0, y = (1 ± i√15)/2
    x = y - 2: x = - 3; x = 0 or x = (1 ± i√15)/2 - 2 = (- 3 ± i√15)/2
    Answer check:
    x = - 3: (x + 2)⁴ + (x + 1)⁴ = (- 1)⁴ + (- 2)⁴ = 1 + 16 = 17; Confirmed
    x = 0: 2⁴ + 1⁴ = 16 + 1 = 17; Confirmed
    x = (- 3 ± i√15)/2: y = x + 2, y² - y + 4 = 0, y² - y = - 4
    (x + 2)⁴ + (x + 1)⁴ = 2(y⁴ - 2y³ + 3y² - 2y) + 1 = 2[(y² - y)² + 2(y² - y)] + 1
    = 2[(- 4)² + 2(- 4)] + 1 = 2(16 - 8) + 1 = 17; Confirmed
    Final answer:
    x = - 3, x = 0, Two complex value roots, if acceptable;
    x = (- 3 + i√15)/2 or x = (- 3 - i√15)/2

    • @NNaween
      @NNaween Před 4 dny

      Nice explanation
      @naweenraaj

    • @is7728
      @is7728 Před 4 dny

      Maybe this better?
      Let h be x + 1.
      (h + 1)^4 + h^4 = 17
      h^4 + 4h^3 + 6h^2 + 4h + 1 + h^4 = 17
      2h^4 + 4h^3 + 6h^2 + 4h - 16 = 0
      h^4 + 2h^3 + 3h^2 + 2h - 8 = 0
      When h = 1, the eqn is satisfied.
      ∴ x = 0
      h^3 + 3h^2 + 6h + 8 = 0
      When h = -2, the eqn is satisfied.
      ∴ x = -3
      h^2 + h + 4 = 0
      h = ( -1 +- √(1 - 16) ) / 2
      = -0.5 +- √15 i / 2
      ∴ x = -1.5 +- √15 i / 2

  • @E.h.a.b
    @E.h.a.b Před 4 dny +1

    Let y = x + 3/2
    (y + 1/2)^4 + (y - 1/2)^4 = 17
    (y^2 + y + 1/4)^2 + (y^2 - y + 1/4)^2 = 17
    [ (y^2 + 1/4) + y ]^2 + [ (y^2 + 1/4) - y ]^2 = 17
    [ (y^2 + 1/4)^2 + 2 y (y^2 + 1/4) + y^2 ] + [ (y^2 + 1/4)^2 - 2 y (y^2 + 1/4) + y^2 ]=17
    2((y^2 + 1/4)^2 + y^2) = 17
    2(y^4 + 1/2 y^2 + 1/16 + y^2) = 17
    2 y^4 + y^2 + 1/8 + 2 y^2 - 17 = 0
    2 y^4 + 3 y^2 - 135/8 = 0
    y^2 = (-3 +/- √(9 - 4 * 2 * (- 135/8)))/(2*2)
    y^2 = (-3 +/- √(9 + 135))/4
    y^2 = (-3 +/- √144)/4
    y^2 = (-3 +/- 12)/4
    y^2 = (-3 + 12)/4 = 9/4 //y^2 = (-3 - 12)/4 < 0 so it is rejected
    y = +/- 3/2
    x = y - 3/2 = +/- 3/2 - 3/2
    x = (0, -3)

    • @Altair705
      @Altair705 Před 9 hodinami

      I made the same variable change. You could have developped faster by using the binomial expansion method:
      (a+b)^4=a⁴+4a³b+6a²b²+4ab³+b⁴
      It was even possible to skip the calculation of the terms in y and y³ by noticing that if y is solution then -y is also a solution, so only the even powers of y would remain.
      Best method in my opinion.

  • @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_280
    @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_280 Před 5 dny

    I'm so blown away. This is amazing ����