Amen brother and how about we stop funding free needles and drug dens. They ban plastic bags/ straws etc... but plastic needles are everywere on the ground and that seems ok.
Because auto makers are making cars for deep pockets. Fueled by cheap $$$$ at 0% interest. Now, that reality is setting in, they can't sell those over priced cars. Only the BOLT is a budget car.
Stephen Harper handed $13.7 billion USD to GM & Chrysler following the 2009 recession. It was an incentive to keep jobs in Canada. GM ended closing their plant in Oshawa. Chrysler ended partnering with Fiat, then Stillantis. Canadian tax payers money gone just like that.
Instead of bulding new tunnels and roads they give away our money to American companies. Ppl in BC can't afford meat anymore but still giving money to various big corporations without taxpayers vote.
@@dembipor In slight defense, Autotrader has 10+ years old Model S(es) with 200k+ km Or Model 3s with 150k km that are 5+ year old plus. For $20,000 in the Toronto area. Still rather my 13 year old F150 that has the same amount of Km over them.
Still cheaper than the $80,000 to rebuild a gas engine. Edit: Wow, nobody caught on. Engines don't cost $80,000 to rebuild just like batteries don't cost $30,000.
Just as I said before the deal was made. It will never be completed as it is gearing up to produce a chemistry that will be obsolete before they get anything finished. Wasted tax dollars.
Battery tech is advancing very fast, any investment right now in a EV factory will be a waste of time, as two years from now power storage will be so radically different from whut it is now any constructions ( may ) will likely need to be revamped from the ground up
Who knows. It might be all calculated? But then again, no one is allow to trace the money as usual. So, could only hope the next big project of the government would be not so big/ grand? Nuclear power plant, EV supply chain or whatever they call it... the list goes on and on perhaps
We have the third most oil reserves in the world and could be one of the most prosperous ( and CLEANEST) oil exporters in the world, generating billions in revenue every year for more hospitals, more housing , more jobs.... It's lunacy to push electric at the detriment of gas and oil production.
That's crazy talk. Pretty soon you might also claim there was a economic case for developing LNG. It's not like even the leaders of Germany and Japan personally came to Canada asking for it... It's going to take decades to fix the damage this government has done.
Tax payer money down the drain. Again. Can these billionaires dollar companies pay for their own expansions ? If it’s such a great business idea, they can fund it on their own. If it’s funded by tax payers, there is no risk to the company so they don’t care if it fails. If we are going to fund a company, then we should own it and reap the rewards if it does well.
The timelines on this project were too short . Affordability is an issue as well. Politicians cannot predict the future and when they try to, this is what happens .
I love my EV. Charge at home, I never go to a gas station, 500km of range, fast as a performance car, only $50 a month in electricity instead of $500 for gas.😊
Bertha Benz put EVs to bed 140 years ago. The problems then were weight, range and recharge time. All these problems persist today. The modern ICE automobile was designed as a solution to EVs, which were themselves a short term solution to external combustion engines and their complexity.
@@Wilem35 try and keep up! I know 9 years of trudeau has all of you progressives living in an even bigger brain-fog than you did before liberalism took over, but you still need to try pal. It hurts to be dumb, and we all know you're hurting.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. These corporate welfare schemes should never happen. These are some of the richest companies on the planet, there is no reason why our tax dollars are being used here. Our tax dollars should be used for services for the citizens. Mental Health facilities, Addiction Treatment centers, affordable housing, detention centers (jail/prison), healthcare and education investments. Throwing billions away at companies like this should be illegal.
EV sales dropped in early 2024 but have been staging a comeback since March. Actually world wide EV sales are slightly up over last year but not in Canada yet. The basic problem is that many regular car manufacturers erroneously thought they could make a profit by taking out a gas tank, transmission, exhaust system and engine, replacing it with an electric motor and batteries and selling it for the same price. It is not that simple. Not only must the whole car be re-designed but also the factory where it is made. That requires massive investment that the company executives whose incomes depend on quarterly profits are not about to make. Retail dealers are opposed to selling electric cars because they require a lot less maintenance that the dealer has to rely on to maintain a profitable business. The ultimate winner is the retail customer of an electric car who never has to seek out the cheapest gas dealer but charges at home, never needs an oil change or maintain the engine, and saves a ton of money. The next five years should be interesting.
Over the period of time if they had spent in increasing the crude refining capacity....would have been money well spent .....also could have avoided oil pipelines traveling south😢
You’ll be surprised how much you actually pay for gas. EVs are not that much more expensive than you think. If you got a car to trade in, plus the gov subsidies, you’ll be looking at about $600/month, $200/month for insurance. I know cuz that’s what I’m pay for my Tesla Model 3. Charging cost is negligible, cost about $4/top up at home. Even better if your workplace offers free charging. Many places also offer free charging.
@@dembipor I live where the summers go up to 35°C and the winters go down to -45°C. I turn on the climate controls while it’s still plugged in to minimize range loss, kind of like using an engine block heater.
Most of these batteries are earmarked for vehicles built in the USA……possibly the Tennessee plant……in any case we end up subsidizing vehicles for the American public
The city where we live has the original cloth wrapped power lines on the poles to homes. No way every home is able to charge multiple ev’s , period! No place to charge in gta for every ev produced! Cant add gas to ev car, so winter storm and gta will have 100k ev’s dead block snowplows all over gta, period! No ifs ands or buts. Not able to be implemented, period! Repair costs are insane on ev! No insurance will reinsure any ev involved in accident, period! Battieries are toxic to make, and not recyclable, just same as nuclear waste, we we cant deal with still, hey, friends of friends are making big cash of ev dream!
If governments are pushing for something , you know is a bad ideea. At the moment due to government subsidies is imposible to acurate determine the cost for an EV.
Thats what you get for subsidizing European companies while not even allowing your biggest industrial manufacturer ( bombardier)to even participate in government tenders for new planes...
Trudeau needs to put a halt on it too. I have yet be convinced that we will be ready for the EV for at least another 5 years. I’ll probably be dead by then so I have no skin in the game except for the tax allocation toward those plans coming out of my pocked until such time. In any case I will not buy one. Way too expensive let alone my question about the effect on the environment of all those dead batteries to come.
Not sure if the battery factories can be updated with Solid State, Sodium or any other new battery technology. Lithium is not the future. There is not enough economic viable lithium to supply the demand for it.
who can even afford EV in Canada? A used car with internal combustion can be purchased for less than $10K. A used electric is like 30K and when the battery dies, the real fun begins for the mechanics.
Billions wasted which could have been spent on water bombers,infrastructure,military or the countless other problems effecting Canada and Canadians!
or a billion dollar tax cut
The buddy consultants got the money
The buddy contractors got the cancellation pay.
Amen brother and how about we stop funding free needles and drug dens. They ban plastic bags/ straws etc... but plastic needles are everywere on the ground and that seems ok.
What can you expect from the worst government in Canadian history?
@@Flavor_Flav Canada does NOT have Government PERIOD
Heads up….most Canadians can not afford an EV!
WTf is our out of touch government thinking!
Clearly not about Canadians!
Because auto makers are making cars for deep pockets. Fueled by cheap $$$$ at 0% interest. Now, that reality is setting in, they can't sell those over priced cars. Only the BOLT is a budget car.
Another billion dollar gift to a mulit billion dollar company.
Foreign companies, all of them.
all this surprises exactly no one
@@JackieBillyTomLiberals are surprised.
@@EyeSee4.8 they dont count for obvious reasons
Stephen Harper handed $13.7 billion USD to GM & Chrysler following the 2009 recession. It was an incentive to keep jobs in Canada. GM ended closing their plant in Oshawa. Chrysler ended partnering with Fiat, then Stillantis. Canadian tax payers money gone just like that.
Tax payers money out the window
Yup that’s usually what happens
As expected !
out the window..... into trudeau pockets
Instead of bulding new tunnels and roads they give away our money to American companies. Ppl in BC can't afford meat anymore but still giving money to various big corporations without taxpayers vote.
2:06 If the delay continues, than taxpayers won't be fronting as much.
So this costs tax payers billions. And they’re also planning on hiring non citizens to work there?
yes, the place will be staffed by 100,000 "managers" from India, and will have 17 Tim Hortons locations within.
They will not produce batteries.
+1
Yeah so?
@@dkrawk8309 easy on the crayons
Can’t sell something no one wants or can afford
My $20,000 EV was pretty easy to afford, and it’s everything I wanted.
@@B.D.F.yeah ? Wait awhile
@@B.D.F.Which car is that and when ? At present time one of cheapest EVs, Nissan Leaf, starts at 44k plus taxes.
@@Hoovie9596 It's been 10 years, how long am I supposed to wait? At this pace I'll die before something happens.
@@dembipor
In slight defense, Autotrader has 10+ years old Model S(es) with 200k+ km
Or Model 3s with 150k km that are 5+ year old plus.
For $20,000 in the Toronto area.
Still rather my 13 year old F150 that has the same amount of Km over them.
I knew it was bound to happen. Our tax dollars down the toilet.
Lol......this is nothing......the ukriane is much better spot for that
@@dkrawk8309 money laundering
Paying $30,000 for a new battery to run my electric car would have me running in the other direction....
Still cheaper than the $80,000 to rebuild a gas engine.
Edit: Wow, nobody caught on. Engines don't cost $80,000 to rebuild just like batteries don't cost $30,000.
@@B.D.F.
Don't know where you're getting an engine rebuilt or what high-end model you're getting, but it's $10,000 tops for the average V8
@@B.D.F....complete nonsense.
@B.D.F. Are you driving a V12?
@@EyeSee4.8
Must be a one-off concept that needs all the parts to fabricate special order.
Stupid idea from politicians.
No surprise.
have you ever driven one?
@@drew_canadaI’d rather WALK!
@@hobbes7460 So you have an opinion formed by someone else?
@@drew_canada nope. Gas for me or nothing. Not a fan of EV’s, I think they are ugly as sin on the outside and in.
@@hobbes7460 But you have never driven one? So where is your opinion coming from?
Trudeau is not worth the cost. Trudeau needs to get out now!
Oh don't you worry! When he said the budget would balance itself he meant in 2025.
@@eggrolllwith the way he’s buggered things up, more like 3025.
@@eggrolllhe meant someone else will balance it for him. It's always been like that with the Fiberals
i was in oakville burligton area yesterday.. lots of pick up trucks, jeeps, and giant suvs going around... canadians do not want EVs
Only the produceers getting government hand outs love them. It is insanity...
40% of Canadian roads aren't even paved. No cell towers or chargers out there either. None of that is going to change any time soon.
@@markbernier8434 yeap... they cray cray...
yea
@@markbernier8434 Even then, most condo do not have the charging capacity for all the tenants for EVs.
Canada: where old failed ideas come to die..
like Multiculturalism and Diversity
So Ford is pausing their EV vehicle production project, but your photo shows a bank of Tesla superchargers as clickbait. Got it.
hahahahha... That was really a joke 2 years ago this is a joke now.
It is morally unacceptable to allow a sucker to keep his money.
Just as I said before the deal was made. It will never be completed as it is gearing up to produce a chemistry that will be obsolete before they get anything finished. Wasted tax dollars.
Throwing money out the window. Who in the government gained financially from this.
Follow the money, as usual.
All of them.
Next scandal I'm sure
A shocker to some, not so much to others.
EV’s are a fire hazard
Waste of tax payers money nobody wants an EV
i wouldn't mind one especially given gass prices.
How much did you waste on this one Trudeau
Billions is nothing to Trudeau. Sunny ways, remember?
Stupid elected officials, making stupid far reaching decisions about the future of a country. What could possibly go wrong ?
I wouldn’t say “stupid decisions”, but “sponsored decisions” instead…
Another construction project being stalled because they have now realized the issue but it’s too late
Its not stalled. Theyre basically cancelling it. They say its stalled but really theyre scapping the deal.
Battery tech is advancing very fast, any investment right now in a EV factory will be a waste of time, as two years from now power storage will be so radically different from whut it is now any constructions ( may ) will likely need to be revamped from the ground up
Billions smh how disgusting, nothing proper is being done in Ottawa, shameful and des
How does that saying go?…Fools rush in?
Team Justin Trudeau, and Steven Guilbeault.
Ford
Who knows. It might be all calculated? But then again, no one is allow to trace the money as usual. So, could only hope the next big project of the government would be not so big/ grand? Nuclear power plant, EV supply chain or whatever they call it... the list goes on and on perhaps
Doug ford is just as guilty.
@@lordcommandersnow1625green belt, science center, Ontario Place... if it's in Russia, it's corruption! Here, it's just another day ✌️😆
Yup, Justin made is friends rich, and now that they see Justin is on the way, so too are they.
Disgusting corruption, right in front of our eyes.
what is happening to the money gifted to these companies from the federal and provincial governments?
BFF 😂
Guilbeault Kong might climb the CN tower over this.
As a Canadian, I will NEVER want, or will NEVER own an EV!
Preach brother 🗣️
I agree, they haven't sold me on it
How many billions did we waste this time
*pocket
Long story short, no it’s not worth the cost. Redirect that to oil and gas exports
I guess enough has been sufficiently laundered.
We have the third most oil reserves in the world and could be one of the most prosperous ( and CLEANEST) oil exporters in the world, generating billions in revenue every year for more hospitals, more housing , more jobs.... It's lunacy to push electric at the detriment of gas and oil production.
That's crazy talk. Pretty soon you might also claim there was a economic case for developing LNG. It's not like even the leaders of Germany and Japan personally came to Canada asking for it...
It's going to take decades to fix the damage this government has done.
Assuming that you are correct about the amount of oil we have…….how do we get the oil from point A to point B!
@@johnsutton6233Pipelines built entirely with private money. He scared away tens of billions in oil and gas money.
Tax payer money down the drain. Again. Can these billionaires dollar companies pay for their own expansions ? If it’s such a great business idea, they can fund it on their own. If it’s funded by tax payers, there is no risk to the company so they don’t care if it fails. If we are going to fund a company, then we should own it and reap the rewards if it does well.
Want to avoid auto theft? Buy an EV.
Bats cheaper
Getting sick and tired of working like a dog while these goofs keep giving our money away
Follow the money. Just have to look at their investment portfolios to see the reasoning behind the push.
How the heck do they get the government money and then NOT come through? Can't they be sued or charged with fraud?
It's gunna crash like a mofo... Elon is the next Enron. Wtfu
The timelines on this project were too short . Affordability is an issue as well. Politicians cannot predict the future and when they try to, this is what happens .
Get the money back. It couldnt be spent yet
From their oversea accounts? Sadly, no reversal I guess
No wonder why our Country debt are thru the roof
Is this the one where Justin Trudeau and Doug Ford got upset because we wanted to know how many jobs it would have created?😅
wish it was as easy to suspend Turdeau as it was a multi-billion dollar plant :(
Laundering
Without better charging infrastructure coast to coast, this drag on EV sales in NA will likely continue indefinitely.
Why the F did we give Ford ridiculous government money (taxpayer money)? If Ford is backing out, GIVE THE MONEY BACK!!!
The corrupt authoritarian Trudeau regime is the problem
Why showing Tesla chargers when the news is about Ford? Lazy angled news 😈
Hahahahaha! Turdeau is a clown!
Look at you go, you’ve mastered the art of projection.
@@B.D.F.the corrupt authoritarian Trudeau regime is the worst thing to ever happen to Canada, braindead liberal cultist
@@B.D.F. more like I opened my eyes and there it was…the liberal clown.
@@B.D.F. your a clown as well
I love my EV. Charge at home, I never go to a gas station, 500km of range, fast as a performance car, only $50 a month in electricity instead of $500 for gas.😊
Bertha Benz put EVs to bed 140 years ago. The problems then were weight, range and recharge time. All these problems persist today. The modern ICE automobile was designed as a solution to EVs, which were themselves a short term solution to external combustion engines and their complexity.
Rambling nonsense
@@Wilem35 try and keep up! I know 9 years of trudeau has all of you progressives living in an even bigger brain-fog than you did before liberalism took over, but you still need to try pal. It hurts to be dumb, and we all know you're hurting.
@@Wilem35 Read Bertha's story and get back to me.
JT lacks common sense. If he says go east, you should go west.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. These corporate welfare schemes should never happen. These are some of the richest companies on the planet, there is no reason why our tax dollars are being used here. Our tax dollars should be used for services for the citizens. Mental Health facilities, Addiction Treatment centers, affordable housing, detention centers (jail/prison), healthcare and education investments. Throwing billions away at companies like this should be illegal.
Experts lol , that’s what happens when you don’t listen to consumers
Experts in boondoggle development.
or to force a government ideology onto the consumers.
EV sales dropped in early 2024 but have been staging a comeback since March. Actually world wide EV sales are slightly up over last year but not in Canada yet. The basic problem is that many regular car manufacturers erroneously thought they could make a profit by taking out a gas tank, transmission, exhaust system and engine, replacing it with an electric motor and batteries and selling it for the same price. It is not that simple. Not only must the whole car be re-designed but also the factory where it is made. That requires massive investment that the company executives whose incomes depend on quarterly profits are not about to make. Retail dealers are opposed to selling electric cars because they require a lot less maintenance that the dealer has to rely on to maintain a profitable business. The ultimate winner is the retail customer of an electric car who never has to seek out the cheapest gas dealer but charges at home, never needs an oil change or maintain the engine, and saves a ton of money. The next five years should be interesting.
NA manufacturers designed behemoth luxury EV tanks. Consumers predictably balked.
Yep all that tax payer money out the window. Same with the gas plants, E Health and Ornge.
The way they use investment is like saying, "I'm investing in myself by buying unicycle to get to work." When what you really need is a bus pass.
Is Trudeau worth the COST?
Over the period of time if they had spent in increasing the crude refining capacity....would have been money well spent .....also could have avoided oil pipelines traveling south😢
You’ll be surprised how much you actually pay for gas. EVs are not that much more expensive than you think. If you got a car to trade in, plus the gov subsidies, you’ll be looking at about $600/month, $200/month for insurance. I know cuz that’s what I’m pay for my Tesla Model 3. Charging cost is negligible, cost about $4/top up at home. Even better if your workplace offers free charging. Many places also offer free charging.
Give back the money!
The market has spoken yet gov enforces and pissed away billions
Guess they need to give all those government subsidies back
EVs are a complete joke.
Canada is so far behind on these investments. They are looking for catchy investments and missing out on basic ones.
Because the general public does not want to come to the recharge station every 3 days 9 times a month 108 times a year......
So, nobody with an e.v. has a charger in their garage? Ya, o.k. then.
Only idiots would charge regularly at a station. Are you one?
@@Wilem35 I have a gas can that I fill once a month.....lol so no
@@kenmcalpine2215 % Of citizens with electric cars is low and ones with a charger at “ home “ is even lower .....lol
@@peterblack3665 Wrong. In 2022, 80% of e.v. owners charged at home. Google. You should try it.
Say no to EVs, not going to work for Canadian weather condition.
Me, driving an EV in Canadian winters for the last 10 years: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@B.D.F.Do you live in Vancouver ? Because our winters aren’t exactly “Canadian”.
@@dembipor I live where the summers go up to 35°C and the winters go down to -45°C. I turn on the climate controls while it’s still plugged in to minimize range loss, kind of like using an engine block heater.
EV is too expensive and vert little expansion of charging stations. 1/3 of charging stations are broken.
Most of these batteries are earmarked for vehicles built in the USA……possibly the Tennessee plant……in any case we end up subsidizing vehicles for the American public
yeah i remember all the whining about KAthleen Whynne and now look what ONtario has... shes not looking so bad now is she?
Billions on billions of taxpayer dollars pissed into the wind
The city where we live has the original cloth wrapped power lines on the poles to homes. No way every home is able to charge multiple ev’s , period! No place to charge in gta for every ev produced! Cant add gas to ev car, so winter storm and gta will have 100k ev’s dead block snowplows all over gta, period! No ifs ands or buts. Not able to be implemented, period! Repair costs are insane on ev! No insurance will reinsure any ev involved in accident, period! Battieries are toxic to make, and not recyclable, just same as nuclear waste, we we cant deal with still, hey, friends of friends are making big cash of ev dream!
As a major oil producer it only makes sense to penalize oil and gas and subsidize electric 😢
If governments are pushing for something , you know is a bad ideea. At the moment due to government subsidies is imposible to acurate determine the cost for an EV.
A flushing toilet will commonly turn clockwise in Canada.
😐
I am surprised we don't have more charging ports at gas stations .
Hello we tax payers demand our $52 billions money back please 👈😑🇨🇦
Unions act as choke points (strikes & lockouts) - Ontario should implement Right to Work legislation (union dues are optional).
Not enough sugar in the EV Koolaide?
grand opening.. grand closing
I, for one, can't wait to get me a new Chrysler Boatanchor, VW Boondoggle, or Honda Behemoth.
The ev market is dying. Mining lithium is environmentally deadly.
Thats what you get for subsidizing European companies while not even allowing your biggest industrial manufacturer ( bombardier)to even participate in government tenders for new planes...
Trudeau's Canada
Nothing like spending 100k on EV to save couple thousands at gas station every year. Than dropping 30k in 10 years for new batteries
This is another unimpeachable evidence that being an expert is not a guarantee of infallibility.
I want my money back…
about time ... stop the madness
‘D Class’ fire fighting? Eeks!
Called it
Wonder why cheaper places around canada are lacking work and never had a chance. Oh wait... Ont only feeds itself.
Realty is not reality now 😢😢
If talking about EVs, taking your foot "off the accelerator pedal" would be more accurate
Trudeau needs to put a halt on it too. I have yet be convinced that we will be ready for the EV for at least another 5 years. I’ll probably be dead by then so I have no skin in the game except for the tax allocation toward those plans coming out of my pocked until such time. In any case I will not buy one. Way too expensive let alone my question about the effect on the environment of all those dead batteries to come.
I say drop the speed limit to 40 and give everyone a golf cart
who would of guessed lol its all a joke
Am other donation to Trudeau under the table.
Not sure if the battery factories can be updated with Solid State, Sodium or any other new battery technology. Lithium is not the future. There is not enough economic viable lithium to supply the demand for it.
who can even afford EV in Canada? A used car with internal combustion can be purchased for less than $10K. A used electric is like 30K and when the battery dies, the real fun begins for the mechanics.