Dont know if it was my comment you responded but i think that the lynx is the harder version of the ski doo since its a harder shock setup a more rigid rear suspension and no t motion (ik that the freeride this year got the Xt) which is something i really dident like about ski doo i think that the lynx is more predictable when you jump and just like sidehilling and i like that ds+ ski more since the deep keel gives good response when i ride in quite hard snow here is sweden and thats some of the reasons i dont ride ski doo but all that comes down to personal preferences and the ski doo is still a really good sled and its fun that we could chose what we like in the brp family
Go lynx Shredder 3700 RE 850 Turbo R. all black! It is fun to be different and no one can tell you that you are on a doo or poo! (only guy out there who isnt riding a tird…) Have seen a video of Bergmark doing wheelie downhill 😬
For safety reasons, Skidoo, Polaris and Cat need to get together and build a navigation/buddy tracking system that connects to all models with a option to color prioritize your buddies in your group.
Why all 4 manufacturers couldn't get together and do a system like a Garmin and like GPS Trailmasters set up to save on cost is beyond me. Even the 7s gps sucks vs the Garmin for mapping
You could get a Trail Tech Voyager Pro. Polaris bought them for the Buddy Track tech they invented for their 7S gauge and their Voyager Pro will work with any Polaris with Buddy Track. This isn't as good as a common industry standard that you mention, but you can get 2 Voyager Pro's for the price of Doo's 10.25" gauge, so there's that at least.
Matt makes it prominent that he isn't a Skidoo ambassador even though everyone knows he should be one. Nobody else puts out Skidoo content like him. He is the best in the business! I appreciate your content Muskoka!
@@rjarchbold24 no it's wouldn't, by not being an ambassador he can ride anything he wants and give his true opinion on things. That's why he probably hasn't gone the ambassador route.
No matter what you choose to ride ill be watching! Your skills in both riding and filming are amazing! Although when cat does release the new engine, it would be cool to see you comparing the 3 big brands side by side in a non-biased setting! Sponsored riders only tell you the good stuff.
How about running a contest for your fan base to design the wrap for your sled next year - they send you a link of their design from Deviantink, you pick the one you like best- maybe give the winner some swag, hoodie, hat, stickers
Cat guy here. Would love to see you on a catalyst for next year bummer the only option is a 600. In my opinion your the only guy out there doing reputable reviews. Ambassadors are just gonna hype whatever they are paid to ride. Keep up the awesome content. 🤘🏼
Cat guy myself. Loving my 155 alpha. Can hardly wait for them to get the 870 out in the new platform. Was kinda thinking of going back to the conventional skid next time until u jumped on a brand new lynx last weekend and that put me back on board with the alpha. It's just so effortless compared to a conventional skid. There's a few downsides but for me I can ride around a bit of washout here and there and the crappy trail manners in order to get that effortless maneuverability. My daughter is just little and she's starting to carve it up on that alpha haha. Once you get through your head that you only need about 20% of the input needed for other sleds and quit over riding it, you start really opening doors. You can basically do 99% of your riding from a neutral position
@@themeach011 Good call on the ability to stay neutral nearly everywhere. It becomes addictive, especially when carrying injuries that limit your ability to leap around the place.
I agree that you are the only mountain riding channel with unbiased, honest information about the sleds you ride. I’d love to see you on the new cat sometimes. Hard to find unbiased information in the sledding world where everybody is absolutely cult like in a particular brand following. (I have a 2019 alpha, 2022 Polaris, and 2020 doo)
Matt thank you for all of your ultra hard work you put into each and every single video you create.. I find myself watching from beginning to end. After watching the BRP new product info video and listening to the ladies talk about the deep snow stuff, I cant help but wonder how much better you could have done that whole video for BRP/Ski Doo. And another thing... these "Professional Riders" they have riding the new iron... if they were to watch your content, especially your tree riding and especially the "21 riders up the knarliest drainage" video, I think they would come to understand not only what an amazing rider you are but how well you showcase what the Ski Doo can actually do. I was just amazed by that video. You have so much natural ability and never bash another brand and always are there to help your buddies when they need help (and a Freerider sticker lol) but most of all you do it and keep it interesting and funny. You're not out to prove you are the best rider or your sled is the best. You're just out having fun and taking us all along with you! Do you have a direct email or contact we could send BRP our recommendations to, to maybe help you secure a sponsorship or a new sled to test each season? You're very deserving of it Brother! Just got my cool tan Freerider hoodie last week!! Thank you!! Its great!! Ride on my friend!!
Save your money for helicopters for your buddy's, camping trips, and a neck brace. Get the 165 skid for the 154 skidoo, your gonna need the neck brace from all the looking back your gonna be doin. Great videos 👍
I think a 165 X for your dad sounds perfect. Would be interesting to compare the X and Expert on the hill. The Freeride 146 15 wide Turbo seems like an expensive specialty sled for the snow conditions out there. Sure seems like a 154 or 165 X or Expert would be a lot more versatile. I have no doubt the 146 will be entertaining at times though.
agree I pretty much just tell him what he should get haha would be interesting to see how much different the x vs expert is next year. it is for sure an expensive specialty sled but for this year up until February it would've been a competent sled, theres lots of times where we have low snow conditions where it would be perfect.
I mean you are the Muskoka FREERIDEr so it makes the most sense to see you on the new one, would be sick to see you extend the 155 to a 165 too. Either way whatever sled you end up with im gonna watch you ride!
I remember back in 1989. Your dad myself and Billy ordered 90 mach ones in the crates ($5200) each. At your Grandfather's cottage we had a race,who could have the first one assembled and out the door of basement running on the snow. Your Oldman won,but I was only couple minutes behind him. Ask him about the (deal) on Quaker State 2 stroke oil back then. GOOD TIMES. Glad to see you didn't fall far from the family tree.
Skidoo should make you an ambassador and if not pay you to ride their sled. At least give you one free sled each season. Same with Polaris. But they won’t because you would be “promoting” another snowmobile. Even though I think you do an amazing job of showing us the pros and cons of each
146 Turbo for the win!!! I mentioned last year you should drop one in the 146 you already have. We've also noticed that that 146 is still hanging around the stable (What a warrior that old gal has been). Take care out there buddy.
Don't worry, I'll take one for the team and test out the new Catalyst for you. 😉 also Force Turbos is going to do a VCS bypass turbo for the Cat as soon as it comes out, to remedy the power issue.
I think that the lynx shredder re would be so cool to see since then you have brp,s biggest flag ships for next year and that all black shredder is hard to beat she looks so mean😈 and i know that you like that all black style😉
Matt, the skidoo Freerider 146 has no quick adj limiter. So, try the Lynx if the Dealerships near by can support the brand. I like the idea of keeping your G5-T. You'll have best of both worlds. Love that SKI-DOO feeling 🙌
@@MuskokaFreerider idk if you still have it but changing your 146 n/a for a 146 turbo can be a idea, im not sure about the 15 inches track tho. hope we can still change for the 16
Sure seems like Matt could be a test pilot for all the manufacturers. I haven’t seen anyone put sleds through their paces like Matt. I bet the manufacturers are surprised to see what their sleds are capable of. They should each be throwing a couple sleds his way.
Lucky guy ..that sled is awesome ..I wish i had your 23year old yellow sled ..its newer than any sled I've ever owned and I dont even have a sled right now ..any sled would be amazing compared to no sled at all ..winter is too long without a snowmobile
I see somebody asked you if you talked to Ski doo about being an ambassador, you said ya. What was their answer? I can't believe they haven't signed you up yet. The content you put out is awesome.
Sponsorship / ambassador programs come with some severe rules. He likely wouldn't be allowed to touch anything but skidoo.. I have seen some bike ambassador programs that dictate what content you can show and what gear you can wear..
Considering this year has been a low snow year in Revy (up until recently) I think it’s safe to stick with a 154 Turbski. But sure would love to see you rock that 146, and wheelie for dayzzz.
Im interested in what your dad goes with. Im pretty much the same age and coming off a 154 Backcountry. Most of my friends have gone to full mountain sleds for next year. Most of our riding has been in the Soo and Quebec and getting more and more away from trail riding. Next year thinking of a few long stretches out west. The decision would be 154 or 165 Summit. Any riding I’ve done out west has been on a 165. I should just by your dad’s sled from this year.
Have the same feeling on the BRP Go App, I messed with it each morning and it was far from user friendly, dropping out - ended up not using it at all and running a Garmin 276CX below it. I did see snippets on release day though that BRP will be adding stand-alone GPS to the '24 10.25, and it possibly will be an add-on module for the 23's
My only thing is the price vs how long it lasts. Most riders have to make payments , and when it goes down due to poor quality and doesn’t last even one full season. Defeats any purpose or reason to go new anymore. $25k plus tax is insane . Why not keep costs down and introduce more new riders to the sport and make more money in the end with overall sales volume . Just like new trucks. $100 k and doesn’t last more than 5-7 yrs. Exactly what the warranty is 👎💩. All companies want is massive profits. No pride in quality and workmanship and a product lasting . Too bad Honda didn’t get into the game eh . Motors would last a million miles and chassis would be rebuilt instead 😝👌. Keep the content comin bud. I’m stuck here in Ont in -37 🥶 wishin I was there 😢😩🇨🇦💪
Would love to see you on a 2025 Catalyst when they put the bigger engine in it. (Fingers crossed for a 900) Get the Lynx, it need the Muskoka stamp of approval.
@@themeach011 might just be my first new sled as well. I'm a little apprehensive about the alpha because I like to spring ride. I hope they have a dual rail option.
@themeach011 wait, really? I know there's always after market, but if they're actually going to offer both, I'm sold. Where do I sign? Take my money already.
Hold off on the Catalyst... hopefully next year at this time maybe then you'll have and 800+ option, hopefully with turbo options (or reputable aftermarket). Doesn't hurt to hold off and not preorder anything for next year, or do some mods/upgrades to the current machines... or find some older sleds to go out on for fun little series🤣
@@MuskokaFreerider Planning on heading out to Revelstoke for 2 weeks, Mainly in the u.p of Michigan though which I realize the turbo is a little overkill. But I got to experience a 146 turbo! Would love to see one on the channel if your considering ordering one.
FREERIDE!!!!! I’d love to see you on the 154” if you’re not keeping your current G5 My FreeRide was by far the most durable sled to date.. Your Content is 💯🫵🏻
Funny I wasn't planning on spring ordering and then I watch the Jay and Blaine release review and was ready to order that ugly blue 146 Freeride turbski. Then I watched this. Hopefully I get to rent on next season.
I'm curious to see if I can get most of what I wanted and get the Freeride shocks on my '23 Summit X Expert 165! Either way, stoked to see the Freeride on a 15" track and I'm really curious to try it after trying my G5 Turbo and the 9R Pro RMK back to back.
I think the freeride 146 turbo unless Polaris releases something interesting to compare to your turbo doo! Really would like to see you have one of each manufacturer but the money to do that would be crazy haha !
Hey, I’m driving through revy right now and I seen you drive by and let’s me tell you….. the camera doesn’t do justice as to how nice those sleds look in person! Keep up the great content 👍
friggen sick man, I'm buying the same one this year but I'm not getting the turbo, too much power for me on a 146 and our snow isn't deep enough to need anything longer
Freeride is sweet with the few updates but the mint is too light for me... my wife would probably love it tho. If going 146 turbo then shredder re would be my choice now that it's all black so it's a blank canvas to wrap. Until skidoo does a major update to the 10" screen its a gimmick. Sucks paying that premium price to see your rpm in color.
What intrigues you the most about the new catalyst from Cat? I know you said you don't know about a 600, but would you consider getting one after they release a big bore for the 2025 MY?
Have you asked Ski-Doo/ BRB To be an ambassador/ product marketer or whatever? Your platform is starting to reach that threshold so I wouldn't be surprised if they agreed
@@MuskokaFreerider Please don’t become an ambassador! They will have you by the nuts. You have far more fun doing what you do now than being an ambassador……. guaranteed!
Sell more merch, start a Patreon, hell sell your body if you have to, but don’t become an ambassador to any sled brand. Aftermarket parts, sure, but please not the sleds. The world is full of brand ambassadors, including many cool people who do it well, but there’s only one MF. No matter how great the company and people and deal, sponsorship ultimately pollutes your mind. Been there, done that.
So my son and I are very torn, first, by the way, thank you for talking to my son at the Toronto show he wears your merch every day. My son basically wants to be like you, but of course he is 16 years old and he rides around sudbury with dad. Currently he rides arrive a RaVe 850 and loves it but needs more track Was thinking free ride 146, but thought it would not be good on the trails and lakes lots of lakes. So then I was thinking Backcountry with the 2” track.. but some of those logging roads and approaching open water without studs, could be very dangerous So then I was thinking back country with a 1.6 cobra but right there it’s not a great track for playing on Pole lines So then I was thinking, maybe I just swap out the truck for a 1.75 and add The IGrip studs. And now I don’t really know what to do. Should I just get a bass summit and Collett a day? I don’t know what to do for one sled in Northern Ontario What do you think we should do?
Ontario is hard, you never know what winter is going to bring! I rode a lot in Ontario without studs, you just have to be mindful that you can’t stop on ice.I’d rather have a little more track
order ski doo freeride 146 for not extremely deep days, and extend summit experts track to 165 for deeper days. Then for polaris you should do the khaos
Quality control has been a big issue on the G5s. Looks like the Polaris sled have had their share of issues too. Boosting power without strengthening the drive components is a recipe for failure. Having to tighten the drive chain after every ride now is ridiculous. I also wouldn't be surprised that in order to save $$, Skidoo has sourced cheaper suppliers for their metal parts.
I would like to see u try out the linx I think u should get one of those next and tell us your opinion on them switch it up a bit and see witch ones u like most
Can you do a video comparing the pros and cons of your 2023 9r and your 2023 doo? And how would you say your 2023 summit boost compares to your 2022 khaos boost?
@@MuskokaFreerider I think it’s interesting how the turbo r seems so much more powerful than the Polaris boost. Both manufacturers claim similar numbers and its even proven on the dynos. Even from videos you can tell how much harder the ski doo pulls.
@@lukem5141 It's not hard. Polaris set the bench mark last year and that gave Doo a number to beat, so they did. That's how competition works. If Polaris throws a turbo on the 9 then they'll be back on top again. It's just a cat and mouse game.
Matt, I’m an intermediate BC Mountain rider +50 yrs old, currently on Summit X Expert 154 that was a new spring purchase for me in 2019. Time to upgrade and I’m leaning towards a 2024 Gen 5 Summit X Expert 154 black and orange. Touch screen does not seem worth it for $1,500 and I’m thinking NON turbo because all my group all ride Non Turbos and I don’t want to work that hard….make sense?
What do you think the biggest difference between the summit x expert turbo 165 and the freeride turbo 165 is and what would be best fit for all around deep snow and tree riding would be
Hi Matt What trackwidth do you think works best overall 15 or 16 inches for the type of driving you do in BC throughout the season. And a big thank you for a fantastic youtube channel
You want quality control I’d look at the lynx specially it just radiates quality sitting next to a Polaris and skidoo. So similar to the doo but you can see the differences
@@MuskokaFreerider but you said it yourself quality control, so if they send it out with whatever parts out of the box without doing that QC part it’s pointless when your not riding because brakes didn’t work off the showroom or clutch or anything really right. I’m not knocking the skidoos they are awesome looking machines aswell but when I look at a lynx vs a doo turbo r I still see one that’s purpose built and Tailored and I see a machine that’s meant to sell a bunch of in all other motorsports I’ve been a part of that tends to come with extra work and QC going into each of those as well as less being sold
Does your dad really need the turbo? I'm about the same age as your dad and I'm on the fence between the turbo and NA 165. I do enjoy watching your dad ride with you as I'm about the same level as him. He seems to know his limits. You should really contact Ski-Doo about becoming an Ambassador but if you do you'll probably have to sugarcoat things ditch the Poo and not be so honest LOL
would be really cool if the manufactures lent me some sleds to review or gave me a discount so I could review more but I probably speak to honestly for that to happen
I was pretty set on the 146 freeride turbo, should I go lynx instead??
Dont know if it was my comment you responded but i think that the lynx is the harder version of the ski doo since its a harder shock setup a more rigid rear suspension and no t motion (ik that the freeride this year got the Xt) which is something i really dident like about ski doo i think that the lynx is more predictable when you jump and just like sidehilling and i like that ds+ ski more since the deep keel gives good response when i ride in quite hard snow here is sweden and thats some of the reasons i dont ride ski doo but all that comes down to personal preferences and the ski doo is still a really good sled and its fun that we could chose what we like in the brp family
that would be nice to see
Shredder re would be cool
Go lynx Shredder 3700 RE 850 Turbo R. all black!
It is fun to be different and no one can tell you that you are on a doo or poo! (only guy out there who isnt riding a tird…)
Have seen a video of Bergmark doing wheelie downhill 😬
Would be exciting to see some different sleds, I would highly recommend the lynx!
For safety reasons, Skidoo, Polaris and Cat need to get together and build a navigation/buddy tracking system that connects to all models with a option to color prioritize your buddies in your group.
Hear hear! Innovations for the betterment of all snowmobilers.
Totally agree I been saying since the introduction of the S7 that maybe they should get together and create 1 dash and save some production $
Why all 4 manufacturers couldn't get together and do a system like a Garmin and like GPS Trailmasters set up to save on cost is beyond me. Even the 7s gps sucks vs the Garmin for mapping
You could get a Trail Tech Voyager Pro. Polaris bought them for the Buddy Track tech they invented for their 7S gauge and their Voyager Pro will work with any Polaris with Buddy Track. This isn't as good as a common industry standard that you mention, but you can get 2 Voyager Pro's for the price of Doo's 10.25" gauge, so there's that at least.
Get Polaris and skidoo to trade shot for GPS, everybody wins except AC.
Matt makes it prominent that he isn't a Skidoo ambassador even though everyone knows he should be one. Nobody else puts out Skidoo content like him. He is the best in the business! I appreciate your content Muskoka!
I mean he’s put out a lot of Polaris content too 🤷♂️
@@Joe-kx7bl Very true. It would be cool to see either company pick him up!
@@rjarchbold24 no it's wouldn't, by not being an ambassador he can ride anything he wants and give his true opinion on things. That's why he probably hasn't gone the ambassador route.
100%
No matter what you choose to ride ill be watching! Your skills in both riding and filming are amazing! Although when cat does release the new engine, it would be cool to see you comparing the 3 big brands side by side in a non-biased setting! Sponsored riders only tell you the good stuff.
I hope get one!
I agree content will be good no matter what
When I saw the release the first thing I thought was Matt is going to get the 146 Freeride haha. Would love to see you do the 165 conversion.
How has Ski-Doo not signed him yet? Out of all the ambassadors, Matt blows everyone out of the water. Fastest growing snowmobile channel hands down.
How about running a contest for your fan base to design the wrap for your sled next year - they send you a link of their design from Deviantink, you pick the one you like best- maybe give the winner some swag, hoodie, hat, stickers
Yes! This would be awesome. Upvote upvote upvote!
Cat guy here. Would love to see you on a catalyst for next year bummer the only option is a 600. In my opinion your the only guy out there doing reputable reviews. Ambassadors are just gonna hype whatever they are paid to ride. Keep up the awesome content. 🤘🏼
I hope to! Thanks! I’m only able to do what I do because of all of you guys 🙌
Cat guy myself. Loving my 155 alpha. Can hardly wait for them to get the 870 out in the new platform. Was kinda thinking of going back to the conventional skid next time until u jumped on a brand new lynx last weekend and that put me back on board with the alpha. It's just so effortless compared to a conventional skid. There's a few downsides but for me I can ride around a bit of washout here and there and the crappy trail manners in order to get that effortless maneuverability. My daughter is just little and she's starting to carve it up on that alpha haha. Once you get through your head that you only need about 20% of the input needed for other sleds and quit over riding it, you start really opening doors. You can basically do 99% of your riding from a neutral position
@@themeach011 Good call on the ability to stay neutral nearly everywhere. It becomes addictive, especially when carrying injuries that limit your ability to leap around the place.
I agree that you are the only mountain riding channel with unbiased, honest information about the sleds you ride. I’d love to see you on the new cat sometimes. Hard to find unbiased information in the sledding world where everybody is absolutely cult like in a particular brand following. (I have a 2019 alpha, 2022 Polaris, and 2020 doo)
Matt thank you for all of your ultra hard work you put into each and every single video you create.. I find myself watching from beginning to end. After watching the BRP new product info video and listening to the ladies talk about the deep snow stuff, I cant help but wonder how much better you could have done that whole video for BRP/Ski Doo. And another thing... these "Professional Riders" they have riding the new iron... if they were to watch your content, especially your tree riding and especially the "21 riders up the knarliest drainage" video, I think they would come to understand not only what an amazing rider you are but how well you showcase what the Ski Doo can actually do. I was just amazed by that video. You have so much natural ability and never bash another brand and always are there to help your buddies when they need help (and a Freerider sticker lol) but most of all you do it and keep it interesting and funny. You're not out to prove you are the best rider or your sled is the best. You're just out having fun and taking us all along with you! Do you have a direct email or contact we could send BRP our recommendations to, to maybe help you secure a sponsorship or a new sled to test each season? You're very deserving of it Brother! Just got my cool tan Freerider hoodie last week!! Thank you!! Its great!! Ride on my friend!!
Save your money for helicopters for your buddy's, camping trips, and a neck brace. Get the 165 skid for the 154 skidoo, your gonna need the neck brace from all the looking back your gonna be doin. Great videos 👍
I think a 165 X for your dad sounds perfect. Would be interesting to compare the X and Expert on the hill. The Freeride 146 15 wide Turbo seems like an expensive specialty sled for the snow conditions out there. Sure seems like a 154 or 165 X or Expert would be a lot more versatile. I have no doubt the 146 will be entertaining at times though.
agree I pretty much just tell him what he should get haha would be interesting to see how much different the x vs expert is next year.
it is for sure an expensive specialty sled but for this year up until February it would've been a competent sled, theres lots of times where we have low snow conditions where it would be perfect.
I’d like to see Jerry on a 175 turbo. Then he might be out climbing you.
I mean you are the Muskoka FREERIDEr so it makes the most sense to see you on the new one, would be sick to see you extend the 155 to a 165 too. Either way whatever sled you end up with im gonna watch you ride!
I remember back in 1989. Your dad myself and Billy ordered 90 mach ones in the crates ($5200) each. At your Grandfather's cottage we had a race,who could have the first one assembled and out the door of basement running on the snow. Your Oldman won,but I was only couple minutes behind him. Ask him about the (deal) on Quaker State 2 stroke oil back then. GOOD TIMES. Glad to see you didn't fall far from the family tree.
Skidoo should make you an ambassador and if not pay you to ride their sled. At least give you one free sled each season. Same with Polaris. But they won’t because you would be “promoting” another snowmobile. Even though I think you do an amazing job of showing us the pros and cons of each
146 Turbo for the win!!! I mentioned last year you should drop one in the 146 you already have. We've also noticed that that 146 is still hanging around the stable (What a warrior that old gal has been). Take care out there buddy.
Don't worry, I'll take one for the team and test out the new Catalyst for you. 😉 also Force Turbos is going to do a VCS bypass turbo for the Cat as soon as it comes out, to remedy the power issue.
I think that the lynx shredder re would be so cool to see since then you have brp,s biggest flag ships for next year and that all black shredder is hard to beat she looks so mean😈 and i know that you like that all black style😉
Your absolutely right about Quality control, guys finding loose bolts and hose's not tight,or rubbing through something else.... nuts.
I like the honest assessments on each stay independent.
Matt, the skidoo Freerider 146 has no quick adj limiter. So, try the Lynx if the Dealerships near by can support the brand. I like the idea of keeping your G5-T. You'll have best of both worlds. Love that SKI-DOO feeling 🙌
146 is so short I don’t know if the limiter strap would do much anyway haha
@@MuskokaFreerider idk if you still have it but changing your 146 n/a for a 146 turbo can be a idea, im not sure about the 15 inches track tho. hope we can still change for the 16
You know what you need, I just can't wait to see you on it. Rekindled my love for the sport. Now I boots buy 1. Thanks a lot buudy.
146 turbo freeride and 165 turbo would be a sick combo!
Should really get Jame to set that up before ya go to Revy. Worth the stop in Westlock. 🍻tuned.
Freeride instead of Lynx. I would still love to see you pick up a 175" and climb some gnarly steep stuff, maybe a used one or something
Skidoo would be lucky to have you as an ambassador
Sure seems like Matt could be a test pilot for all the manufacturers. I haven’t seen anyone put sleds through their paces like Matt. I bet the manufacturers are surprised to see what their sleds are capable of. They should each be throwing a couple sleds his way.
My choice Freeride 154 850 Turbo R 10.25 display and Matt don't worry about the color you always wrap them 🤣😁
Wicked Sled!!!💯💯💯
Chains and reeds vs clutches and vibrations .
I think it would be sweet to see a lynx on the channel! Keep up the great work Matt!
Looking forward to seeing the doo out in the pow!
Lucky guy ..that sled is awesome ..I wish i had your 23year old yellow sled ..its newer than any sled I've ever owned and I dont even have a sled right now ..any sled would be amazing compared to no sled at all ..winter is too long without a snowmobile
I see somebody asked you if you talked to Ski doo about being an ambassador, you said ya. What was their answer? I can't believe they haven't signed you up yet. The content you put out is awesome.
Sponsorship / ambassador programs come with some severe rules. He likely wouldn't be allowed to touch anything but skidoo.. I have seen some bike ambassador programs that dictate what content you can show and what gear you can wear..
Considering this year has been a low snow year in Revy (up until recently) I think it’s safe to stick with a 154 Turbski. But sure would love to see you rock that 146, and wheelie for dayzzz.
Love the content, ended up loving it so much that I snow checked a new ski-doo!! (Big upgraded from a Yamaha triple)
Dave Norona, Jay & Blaine have a lot of good things to say about the Doo FR 146. Go for it 👌
Im interested in what your dad goes with. Im pretty much the same age and coming off a 154 Backcountry. Most of my friends have gone to full mountain sleds for next year. Most of our riding has been in the Soo and Quebec and getting more and more away from trail riding. Next year thinking of a few long stretches out west. The decision would be 154 or 165 Summit. Any riding I’ve done out west has been on a 165. I should just by your dad’s sled from this year.
Have the same feeling on the BRP Go App, I messed with it each morning and it was far from user friendly, dropping out - ended up not using it at all and running a Garmin 276CX below it.
I did see snippets on release day though that BRP will be adding stand-alone GPS to the '24 10.25, and it possibly will be an add-on module for the 23's
My only thing is the price vs how long it lasts. Most riders have to make payments , and when it goes down due to poor quality and doesn’t last even one full season. Defeats any purpose or reason to go new anymore. $25k plus tax is insane . Why not keep costs down and introduce more new riders to the sport and make more money in the end with overall sales volume . Just like new trucks. $100 k and doesn’t last more than 5-7 yrs. Exactly what the warranty is 👎💩. All companies want is massive profits. No pride in quality and workmanship and a product lasting . Too bad Honda didn’t get into the game eh . Motors would last a million miles and chassis would be rebuilt instead 😝👌. Keep the content comin bud. I’m stuck here in Ont in -37 🥶 wishin I was there 😢😩🇨🇦💪
Would love to see you on a 2025 Catalyst when they put the bigger engine in it. (Fingers crossed for a 900)
Get the Lynx, it need the Muskoka stamp of approval.
I've been hearing 870 from reputable sources. Can't wait for that with the alpha. Will most likely be my first ever brand new sled.
@@themeach011 might just be my first new sled as well. I'm a little apprehensive about the alpha because I like to spring ride. I hope they have a dual rail option.
@@MrTragicPilot u can get either
@themeach011 wait, really? I know there's always after market, but if they're actually going to offer both, I'm sold. Where do I sign? Take my money already.
Hold off on the Catalyst... hopefully next year at this time maybe then you'll have and 800+ option, hopefully with turbo options (or reputable aftermarket).
Doesn't hurt to hold off and not preorder anything for next year, or do some mods/upgrades to the current machines... or find some older sleds to go out on for fun little series🤣
I cant wait for my 146 turbo! thing will be so rowdy
hell ya! where do you ride
@@MuskokaFreerider Planning on heading out to Revelstoke for 2 weeks, Mainly in the u.p of Michigan though which I realize the turbo is a little overkill. But I got to experience a 146 turbo! Would love to see one on the channel if your considering ordering one.
@@The1Collin I think a 146 would be a lot of fun there too!
I’m Dooing a FreeRide 146 Turbski for U.P. It’s going to Rip let’s pray for snow!! Just got a Foot dumped today much needed!
You seem much smoother and confident on the polaris.
FREERIDE!!!!! I’d love to see you on the 154” if you’re not keeping your current G5
My FreeRide was by far the most durable sled to date.. Your Content is 💯🫵🏻
🔥beautiful sled setup, the burgundy is nice, the blue tho is a bit 😮🔥👊🔥🏍🔨⚙️🪵
Funny I wasn't planning on spring ordering and then I watch the Jay and Blaine release review and was ready to order that ugly blue 146 Freeride turbski. Then I watched this. Hopefully I get to rent on next season.
I'm curious to see if I can get most of what I wanted and get the Freeride shocks on my '23 Summit X Expert 165!
Either way, stoked to see the Freeride on a 15" track and I'm really curious to try it after trying my G5 Turbo and the 9R Pro RMK back to back.
Hell yeah, 146 turbo!
Like that 146 Turbo Combo, sounds pretty good but the 155 probably will do the mountain the best 👌
154/55 is definitely the best all around machine
I think the freeride 146 turbo unless Polaris releases something interesting to compare to your turbo doo! Really would like to see you have one of each manufacturer but the money to do that would be crazy haha !
What do you do with your sleds from year to year?
Ask Lynx sponsor! They might go for it for good marketing! Maybe you can have very good discount or free sled!
Hey, I’m driving through revy right now and I seen you drive by and let’s me tell you….. the camera doesn’t do justice as to how nice those sleds look in person! Keep up the great content 👍
Haha right on! Thanks!
You should buy the 146 freeride and the shredder haha!
Hahaha give arum down of both would be cool but I can only have so many sleds
Great content as always Matt! Quick question: You say if had to choose only one, it would be a Skidoo Expert. Why? and why not an RMK Boost? Thanks!
Mint for the win!
friggen sick man, I'm buying the same one this year but I'm not getting the turbo, too much power for me on a 146 and our snow isn't deep enough to need anything longer
turbo isn't for everyone! also adds a lot of extra cost
I really like your content, we have a lot of snow and big mountains on Sakhalin. There are places to ride, but nothing😅
there is no such technology
Freeride is sweet with the few updates but the mint is too light for me... my wife would probably love it tho. If going 146 turbo then shredder re would be my choice now that it's all black so it's a blank canvas to wrap. Until skidoo does a major update to the 10" screen its a gimmick. Sucks paying that premium price to see your rpm in color.
Yeah trying to cover the mint with a wrap would be difficult. Yeah that’s about all I use the gauge for atm lol
Yeah, except for the colour it's great that colours hoard in my opinion and lots of other people I talk to
looking at ordering 154 850 freeride or a 850 summit x expert for 2025 once they release i know Canadian prices are crazy
You should try riding a polaris timbersled i bought the riot3 129 kit mounted it on a 2022 ktm 450 sxf very fun and i would reccomend
I snowchecked a Freeride turbo 154
HELL YES!!! 💯🫵🏻
The should pay you for riding Skidoo thoe!! Your like one of their greatest promotor
What intrigues you the most about the new catalyst from Cat? I know you said you don't know about a 600, but would you consider getting one after they release a big bore for the 2025 MY?
a 146" turbo would be so rowdy for everything but the deepest days
Matt you put out great videos!I get to go snowmobiling once a year trails only what glove would you get to trail ride?
Have you asked Ski-Doo/ BRB To be an ambassador/ product marketer or whatever? Your platform is starting to reach that threshold so I wouldn't be surprised if they agreed
ya
I hate to say it, but if being a Ski-Doo ambassador means that we won't see him ride other brands, I hope he doesn't become one.
@@MuskokaFreerider Please don’t become an ambassador! They will have you by the nuts. You have far more fun doing what you do now than being an ambassador……. guaranteed!
Sell more merch, start a Patreon, hell sell your body if you have to, but don’t become an ambassador to any sled brand. Aftermarket parts, sure, but please not the sleds. The world is full of brand ambassadors, including many cool people who do it well, but there’s only one MF. No matter how great the company and people and deal, sponsorship ultimately pollutes your mind. Been there, done that.
How things change in the matter of 2 weeks haha congrats on the new 165
So my son and I are very torn, first, by the way, thank you for talking to my son at the Toronto show he wears your merch every day.
My son basically wants to be like you, but of course he is 16 years old and he rides around sudbury with dad. Currently he rides arrive a RaVe 850 and loves it but needs more track
Was thinking free ride 146, but thought it would not be good on the trails and lakes lots of lakes.
So then I was thinking Backcountry with the 2” track.. but some of those logging roads and approaching open water without studs, could be very dangerous
So then I was thinking back country with a 1.6 cobra but right there it’s not a great track for playing on Pole lines
So then I was thinking, maybe I just swap out the truck for a 1.75 and add The IGrip studs.
And now I don’t really know what to do. Should I just get a bass summit and Collett a day? I don’t know what to do for one sled in Northern Ontario
What do you think we should do?
Ontario is hard, you never know what winter is going to bring! I rode a lot in Ontario without studs, you just have to be mindful that you can’t stop on ice.I’d rather have a little more track
So what’s the perfect northern Ontario/Sudbury Ontario sled? What would you do if you were in my shoes?
Lynx turbo 146 and Khaos boost 165 would be insane. Like $50 grand insane haha.
Maybe BRP Lynx needs another Canadian deep snow ambassador along with Jason Ribi👀
Turbo mxz for the mountains you can do it matt!
keep up the good work your videos are awesome.
order ski doo freeride 146 for not extremely deep days, and extend summit experts track to 165 for deeper days. Then for polaris you should do the khaos
Exactly!
When Cat comes out with their new chassis and bigger 2 stroke have you thought about getting one of those to compare to Polaris and Ski-doo?
would love too
Not a fan of the new mint color, pretty glad I snagged the '23 version of the freeride in a 154.
Only buying 1 sled....deep thought...lol. thax man
One ski doo haha
I would love to see you try one of the new catalysts, but I don't think you would get anywhere with a 600 knowing where you like to go.
what did you end up going with?
Quality control has been a big issue on the G5s. Looks like the Polaris sled have had their share of issues too. Boosting power without strengthening the drive components is a recipe for failure. Having to tighten the drive chain after every ride now is ridiculous. I also wouldn't be surprised that in order to save $$, Skidoo has sourced cheaper suppliers for their metal parts.
I’m seeing a lot of issues on both sides of the fence this year
I love how you did almost the entire video with no mic and then for the last little bit you put the mic on hahaha
You should rent out a 20 wide expedition 900 turbo r or a 600r and take it out to the mountains I would love to watch that.
Would be impossible to find one for rent
I would like to see u try out the linx I think u should get one of those next and tell us your opinion on them switch it up a bit and see witch ones u like most
Best vid ever
Can you do a video comparing the pros and cons of your 2023 9r and your 2023 doo? And how would you say your 2023 summit boost compares to your 2022 khaos boost?
I'll go in to more detail at the end of the season. the ski doo turbo blows the doors off the polaris boost
@@MuskokaFreerider I think it’s interesting how the turbo r seems so much more powerful than the Polaris boost. Both manufacturers claim similar numbers and its even proven on the dynos. Even from videos you can tell how much harder the ski doo pulls.
@@lukem5141 might be a clutching thing
@@lukem5141 It's not hard. Polaris set the bench mark last year and that gave Doo a number to beat, so they did. That's how competition works. If Polaris throws a turbo on the 9 then they'll be back on top again. It's just a cat and mouse game.
Durability is a different story SkiDoo>Polaris
Would love to see you try the new cat out sometime next year!
Would be a good episode if you did a Catalyst demo ride.
I'm hoping Altitude powersports has a new mod sled for you instead of just writing a check.
They got Matt from Syxxes fixing up the wrecked boost. Just might make a comeback.
@@MrTragicPilot I saw their video also saw them break it down didn't see any fixing if possible. Altitude definitely owes Matt a sled.
That sled will never be again only parts of it
Go with lynx! Please🥺
its time to get a lynx man!!!!
Should do a full lightweight build to see the difference it makes .
Matt, I’m an intermediate BC Mountain rider +50 yrs old, currently on Summit X Expert 154 that was a new spring purchase for me in 2019. Time to upgrade and I’m leaning towards a 2024 Gen 5 Summit X Expert 154 black and orange. Touch screen does not seem worth it for $1,500 and I’m thinking NON turbo because all my group all ride Non Turbos and I don’t want to work that hard….make sense?
Makes sense! Unless you really want to leave your friends in the dust. It gets lonely waiting at the top though lol
What do you think the biggest difference between the summit x expert turbo 165 and the freeride turbo 165 is and what would be best fit for all around deep snow and tree riding would be
Hi Matt
What trackwidth do you think works best overall 15 or 16 inches for the type of driving you do in BC throughout the season.
And a big thank you for a fantastic youtube channel
excited to see you on a big bore catalyst when it comes out
You want quality control I’d look at the lynx specially it just radiates quality sitting next to a Polaris and skidoo. So similar to the doo but you can see the differences
Lynx is the same parts as the doo in the end
@@MuskokaFreerider but you said it yourself quality control, so if they send it out with whatever parts out of the box without doing that QC part it’s pointless when your not riding because brakes didn’t work off the showroom or clutch or anything really right. I’m not knocking the skidoos they are awesome looking machines aswell but when I look at a lynx vs a doo turbo r I still see one that’s purpose built and Tailored and I see a machine that’s meant to sell a bunch of in all other motorsports I’ve been a part of that tends to come with extra work and QC going into each of those as well as less being sold
Does your dad really need the turbo? I'm about the same age as your dad and I'm on the fence between the turbo and NA 165. I do enjoy watching your dad ride with you as I'm about the same level as him. He seems to know his limits. You should really contact Ski-Doo about becoming an Ambassador but if you do you'll probably have to sugarcoat things ditch the Poo and not be so honest LOL
Thanks!
I thinking about shortying my skidoo expert gen5 turbo r. from 154 to 146?
Muskoka is such an advocate for skidoo. How can we help him get a sled?
would be really cool if the manufactures lent me some sleds to review or gave me a discount so I could review more but I probably speak to honestly for that to happen
@@MuskokaFreerider I think to be a brand ambassador you need to be brans exclusive.
@@dskofich I think so. And Matt being independent and speaking his mind is what I believe helps attract such a wide audience.