NEXTGEN EFL: with Type 4 attachment, mini-diggers can lift in excess of their weight! How to fit
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- čas přidán 26. 10. 2019
- *Oct 2021 Update - this is one of our most popular videos with close to 1.5 million views. It shows an early, low-lift version of the attachment. We have continued product development and also have lorry loading and unloading versions. See video-links in end screen for more information.*
A dipper mounted forklift attachment for mini excavators for moving pallets. Attaches in under one minute. Lifts more than the excavator weight.
One of a series of videos. See other's on Bailey's channel or find out more at www.excavatorforklift.com.
One of a series of videos. See Bailey's channel or get more info at www.excavatorforklift.com
Very interesting design! The idea is to make full use of the excavator you own. I’m sure that many will say....”go buy a real forklift”, or, “not as good as a real forklift”. They must not know how hard it is to pay for multiple machines!
Thank you very much for your comment. This is exactly what we think! Our attachment should help people save time and money.
That is a damned good idea that will work for a lot of folks with mini excavators. Good job.
Great that you like it and can see the potential for other mini-excavator users! You can see other types
/ info at www.excavatorforklift.com. Best wishes, Bailey
Looks like a good piece of kit, handy for people that don’t need to constantly move pallets around and don’t want to spend the money on another machine that won’t be used often.
Thank you! Could not have said it better myself. Best wishes, Bailey
I can see this as a great investment for small landscaping, building companies who need to move heavy or bulky materials around restricted gardens for projects that would otherwise be labour intensive.
Thank you very much - this is exactly the sort of customer we are thinking of!
Y not have a skid steer much better mobility
Small skidloader
I have no idea why CZcams recommended me this, but it’s a pretty neat invention.
Neat idea. Cant really see much of a market tho. Most scenarios ive been in where we are moving around block on rough terrain, there are several skid steers around. Its a lot easier to swaps some forks than do this.
Hi James - Understood. Glad you like the concept. We think there will be sites without those extra machines you mention, or sites so small that extra machines are not great from a space perspective or sites where you don't want to leave too much equipment overnight (the EFL + excavator can be towed away in one trailer-load). We do hope people can see the potential advantages. Thanks for your comment. Best, Bailey
I could see it being handy I'm tighter areas because you can swing the machine and boom to turn trailer and maneuver it way better than a skidsteer or CTL
Yes this thing targets a a very small market of people who can't afford the right size equipment. I can't see anyone buying this with how available rentals are and most trucks have a lift and will put pallets where you need them. Very small market.
@@excavatorforklift I am a excavator op and this is a great idea......landscapers,small builders and paving companies....... I am interested in buying one,what is the price??? I'm in scotland
If you have access to a skid steer and forks then yeah...if not and you have a mini ex this would be a great second option.
Great attachment. Ideal for small businesses that don’t have large budgets for other machines. Ideal for homesteads, landscaping businesses etc etc
I work in earthmoving and that's a A1 product idea. That will go a long way and be very helpful to landscapers and the like. You're on a winner their my friend.
Thank you very much for the comment. Really glad to hear you like it! A lot of time and thinking has gone into this to get us to this stage. You mention landscapers - they are certainly on our mind in terms of potential users. Note that the higher-lift models can suspend loads (eg bags of soil / stones / sand) i.e. a loading and unloading function exists.
An paver guys too I'm working in a housing development now of about 1200 homes an it could be used at our job I'm a grading guy but the other could use it for sure
@@ronniewilliz153 Thank you for that! Do pass our address onto the guy you are working with. www.excavatorforklift.com
Just being able lift a pallet of sod and place it closer to the work area would be awesome
Keep up the great work…this is awesome many use options in all trades
Great idea!
Awesome design!
Great to hear you like it! Thank you for your kind comment.
Coming soon to a princes auto near you. Seriously though that's an amazing set up kudos to you for the creativity
Thank you very much!
I like the way this guy thinks.
That boom has not been stress tested with the addition of the strut locating brackets which I assume are welded on. This may well lead to boom failure in this location as it was never designed to take load in this zone. It will certainly nullify any warranty on the boom. Its a good idea but needs considerable product development for it to gain any manufacturing licences etc.
Lee - Your question is a good one. This video was of the first prototype though and it has gone through a lot of development since then.
The attachment still links to the dipper pins. The strut inner end now locates on the main boom / Chassis pin. No welding is required since the attachment point are now all pins. This addresses part of your comment.
Turning to force measurement: I can’t post a sketch on this forum. We will post a full summary and some calculations on our website. Here I will try to describe and quantify and compare in round figures the digging forces versus attachment forces applied to the excavator using a combination of pressure gauge and load cell measurements and calculations.
In summary, the manner of attachment shares the loads between the ground (via the attachment wheels) the boom, the dig cylinder, the strut and the dipper pins. The conclusion of the calculations is that the forces on the pins due to the attached EFL (plus 1.5 tonne load) are only 31% of digging forces, and only 60% of hydraulic pressures.
Awesome idea, best wishes to you in the future!!
Genius idea sir. Well done
Thank you! Really appreciate your comment.
Freakin genius. One of those things you say " why didn't I think of that ". Cool beans man, good luck with it im sure it will do great
Thanks 👍
They looked at the problem, finance, sat down and came up with this well done
Thanks very much Allen - it did take some time but we are really pleased with what we have developed. Glad you like the idea.
Hammer da hast du dir echt gedanken gemacht mega👍👍👍
Vielen Dank Oki! - Grusse, Bailey
Cool !!
Grande invenzione ,complimenti
Thanks Luca - glad to hear that you like it!
Very clever 👏
Thanks John - a lot of thinking as gone into it!
Wow very impressive...I'll definitely will share
Thanks a lot - that is appreciated. Best wishes - the EFL team
@@excavatorforklift you're more than welcome I love new ideas I am a inventor myself I wish you guys nothing but the best of luck and hope that you can make that in production good luck from Sam petrini Scranton PA
Cool idea 💡😌👌🏻
Thanks 😁
Echt een super slim idee. Vet om te zien. Hoop dat de patent gelukt is
Many thanks for the comment! Best wishes, Bailey
Bravo super boulot parfait 👍👍👍🇫🇷🇫🇷
Merci beaucoup Monsieur! Bonne soiree.
Might want to add a couple of pad eyes on the fork side to store the ram when it is not in use that way they stay together. But very cool idea.
Thanks - we like your thinking
Cool
Convenient!
Thanks for your comment!
That's great just need to make it a bit quicker to mount the extra cylinder it's still quick but it would make it just a little bit better
Thanks for your comment and thoughts - this video is of one of the earlier versions. We have been developing and improving. The attachment now takes about a minute to fit!
How cool is that
Thank you very much. Really glad that you like it!
Don't think it would take off skid steers been used on small sites teleporters on big ones and the amount of varies attachments available for them now is amazing
Hi Ma - thanks for your comments. We hope that for some people (perhaps those where space on site is at a real premium or those who do not have that second machine available), our attachment will be a novel, economic way to get more from their mini-digger. Best wishes, the EFL team
@@excavatorforklift ya I hope so ur trying something different and deserve a break pls god it will be something that will sustain ur business and help it grow and ur right the small builder who wouldn't have all the big gear would benefit from it
Good 👍
Thanks for your comment!
Brilliant idea. Only issue is the wear and tear on the machine. The tracks are not designed for a lot of driving on em. Expensive to repair. Would be cheaper to buy a Bobcat in long run.
Harry - thanks for your comment. You are right to think about components of the excavator and how they might be impacted. We are very focused on that. On this point we are comfortable that distances travelled would not be beyond expectations for the digger. Our attachment is for use on sites (with particular value-add on small sites).
Super
Thanks Manna - much appreciated!
Glad this is getting so many views - looks good!
It'll still take a real forklift to unload that pallet from a truck. Neat idea, but still needs development in the practicality side.
Hi Sithira - thanks for taking time to comment. If you take a look here (starting at 2 mins in) you can see that we have designs to lift pallets. czcams.com/video/3FBu9pV4nXg/video.html
Interesting attachment. If only it could unload pallets out of the back of a truck or off a flatbed trailer. Then you'd have a winner.
Blake - thank you. Since this attachment we have developed one that does just that! czcams.com/video/iYQJXDSvuJE/video.html
That is bad ass. An he gonna make millions off a simple thing added to the mini.
Thanks Ronnie! I appreciate that. A lot of time and thinking has gone into the design to get us to this stage. Best wishes, Bailey
Sweet
Thanks Danny
God, I cant wait till yall find out about fork attachment
Hi Juaan - regular fork attachments for diggers have been around for a while but unfortunately they do not allow mini-diggers to lift much. With the forks at the end of the dipper, the weight of the forks themselves is already quite a lot for the digger to handle before it would overturn. They are really useful from 5-6 tonnes or more. This EFL attachment (with its wheel mounting and vertical lift) allows machines as small as 1 tonne to lift weights of 1 tonne.
Have you considered mounting forks on your blade. It could be a super simple design that is removable without a single bolt or tool. Each fork would simply drop into place At the desired separation depending on pallet pocket width. It’s essentially the same concept as metal cantiléver shelves
Colby - thanks for your comment. We did experiment on that actually but unfortunately stability was compromised and lifting capacity was low.
Pretty damn clever. I'm sure someone will come up with a simpler quick change system.
Jerry - thanks - we have the connection down to a minute now which we think should work well for most people
@@excavatorforklift awesome.
As a labourer i can honestly say the best part of the job is moving the materials around the site.... by hand.... 😐
I am sure there will be some people who don't buy one and there will be plenty left to move by hand! Best, Bailey
They already have a fork lift attachment for them
Keith - it is true that forks are available for diggers but they are really only useful for diggers above 5 tonnes. For smaller diggers (like the 0.8-3.5 tonne diggers that our product is made to fit), even the unloaded forks are heavy for the machine. i.e. they are unable to support much load.
Nice, how does it handle the weight on inclines?
Good question. With a test load (25% above the working load) we have tested this on 21% incline on a water bound hardcore slope without any issues. The machine remained stable at that point but lost traction. This compares to the incline of 36% that is in the KX41 manual (for the base machine).
I hope you make a million bucks mister
Thanks!
I see a blade in front of the mini x and a bucket. No need to go over them obstacles. Cool idea but don’t create situations that are avoidable.
Billy thanks for taking the time to comment - for day-to-day use would definitely agree. The obstacles in this video though are just to show the angles that the machine can achieve.
Nifty.
Thanks! We think so too!
needs solid rubber fork lift tires .or solid bobcat tires pneumatic tires are going to be a constant problem
Thanks for the comment - we have not had any problems with the tyres we use but do offer foam filled if people are particularly concerned about the surfaces on which they will work.
Could just run straps through the pallet?
Thanks for commenting- that is an option but you will lift a lot less. 350 kg if using this excavator.
How did that pallet get off the truck?
Daniel - when this particular video was made we had not yet developed a lorry loading and unloading version. That now exists. See czcams.com/video/iYQJXDSvuJE/video.html
🤔 interesting ✌️
Thanks! We think so. There are other videos of different models of the attachment on this channel if you would like to see more. czcams.com/channels/pCtZGVsevpj2w0CyfjSpjQ.html
very nice design!
Thank you! Glad you like it!
What a useless waste of money a set of quick attach forks and away you go without all the rest of that bull shit
Hi Billy - sorry to hear you don't like it. End of dipper forks you mention weigh around 200 kgs themselves. For small excavators like this one the end of dipper capacity is 310 kg - which only leaves you 100 kg for the load. Our attachment on the same excavator can handle 1 tonne pallets (and more.) Best wishes - Bailey
I love how everyone says it's a great idea until they figure out how much they're charging for 6 welds and a pair of lawn mower tires 🙃 save yourself the money and just get you about a 50 horsepower tractor you can brush hog and you can box blade they even make backhoe attachments if your tractor spect for it and has the correct subframe
Hi CWS - our attachment is just one option available to people. It will suit some better than others. We think it will be particularly useful for small builders, landscape gardeners and groundworks contractors, who may not have much use for a tractor.
Looks to me like you need a loader/skidsteer not a digger.
Hi - thanks for the comment. We've designed if for people who do need a digger for their digging job (maybe taking it to a site every day). These people may need to lift materials when on site. They can bring our attachment and excavator in one load in the morning and when on site during the day lift in excess of a tonne - so it is a pretty good dual purpose solution.
Thoughs tyres would last a day before getting a puncture..
Well spotted. We now use heavy duty 12 ply tyres rated at 1215 kg each which give no problems.
Inovative design, but in my opinion it wouldn’t be approved to fit by equipment manufacturers. It could result in void of machine warranty.
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, any attachment not made by the manufacturer of the digger may invalidate the warranty.
Too much work to swap attachments. If it worked with a quick attach bucket exchange or something similar I could defiantly see the use and forego the skid steer on sites. But generally we need both pieces of equipment anyway.
Good news for you. The attachments now work with a quick hitch!
Why are the wheels not rolling? They are sliding
Hi - not sure where you see that but in any case, we now use bigger (23 inch 12 ply) tyres now. With that change, we have not had problems with the wheels or tyres. Best wishes, Bailey
But it doesn't lift up to a truck deck.?
Hi - Not this particular type but we have other models that lift higher (up to 3m). www.excavatorforklift.com
Seems like a lot of work.
If your moving heavy stuff that often buy a bigger machine.
If only moving stuff once or twice then can you really justify cost of attachment?
Hi there - It actually really is quick to attach (under a minute) and very easy to use the attachment. It is true that bigger machines can move more but they are costlier to buy, to transport and need more space so they are impractical for small sites. Our attachment is designed to maximize the lifting capacity of a mini - digger already owned by the person wanting to lift. Compared to buying a larger machine (or even renting on "lifting days") the cost of the attachment is very reasonable. Best, Bailey
I dont see this product selling very well. Most contractors / construction companies will have a skid steer with pallet forks or a off road fork lift.
Hi Chris - We have designed it for people who are working on very small sites (space is limited) and / or people who don't have that extra kit and want to get more from the excavator they do have. The fact the attachment can tow along with an excavator behind an SUV will appeal to some people. Best, Bailey
Wo kan man sowas bestellen
Hallo gute Frage - werfen Sie einen Blick auf unsere Website - www.excavatorforklift.com. Sie können uns dort kontaktieren, uns Ihre Maschinenmarke und Ihr Modell mitteilen und was Sie heben müssen und wir können es von dort aus übernehmen. Beste Grüße, das EFL-Team.
Hi there - good question - take a look at our website - www.excavatorforklift.com. You can reach out to us there, tell us your machine make and model and what you need to lift and we can take it from there. Best wishes, the EFL team.
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Neat but most of the time you haft to load or unload a truck
Hi Gray - this video is the low lift version but we do have other higher lifting attachments available. Up to 3.0 m. So loading a truck is not a problem. See www.excavatorforklift.com. Best, Bailey
Kinda cool but not next gen type of stuff, this is very niche
Why don't you just make fork attachments
Hi - regular fork attachments for diggers have been around for a while but unfortunately they do not allow mini-diggers to lift much. With the forks at the end of the dipper, the weight of the forks themselves is already quite a lot for the digger to handle before it would overturn. They are really useful from 5-6 tonnes or more. This EFL attachment (with its wheel mounting and vertical lift) allows machines as small as 1 tonne to lift weights of 1 tonne.
usless excavators all rradj have forks with a quick attach
Hi - end of dipper forks you mention weigh around 200 kgs themselves. For small excavators like this one the end of dipper capacity is 310 kg - which only leaves you 100 kg for the load. Our attachment on the same excavator can handle 1 tonne pallets (and more.) Best wishes - Bailey
Doesn’t look practical to me but some people may like it.
Hi Ben - Thanks taking time to give us your feedback. This model has actually had some enhancements since the video was put together. It is quick to attach (under a minute) once you are practiced and there is also a higher lift (2m lift) version available for loading and unloading lorries etc. Best wishes, Heather
First of all that lecablocks on the palet is not 1000kg it.s 500kg if not 250kg .i work with thise types of blocks every day so i know. I would be much better to make a foke to connect on the pushblade .or just get a mini frontloader.
Michael - we have not exaggerated the loads. These blocks are solid. There are 44 blocks =880kg and 120 kg of steel pallet to make the load to 1 tonne. We measured the load on scales. The attachment will be useful for people who bring a digger (+ this attachment) in one load to site on a trailer.
This seems like a waste of money. Sorry to say. I think it would thousandths of dollars cheaper to buy forks that fit on a tractor bucket or bobcat or maybe even a loader
Keith - thanks for taking the time to comment. We think our core market will be people on small sites who have a small digger and (other than loading or unloading) have no need (or space) for large equipment. Our attachment re-directs the hydraulic power that is otherwise needed for digging to create a vertical lift by the attachment.
Be faster to just put some bricks in the bucket…
Spruce - you might be right in some circumstances. It will depend how frequent and how large your loads are.
Why oh why the really annoying music ??
Hi Ma - thanks for your comment. Agreed that those are alternatives but this is a brand new and economical way to lift much more with an excavator that potential customers probably have on site anyway. The point is to allow digger users to get more from their machine rather than needing to use (buy or hire) another piece of equipment. Best wishes, the EFL team.
Looks like a pain in the butt.
Silo - Thanks for taking time to comment but that is not our experience. The attachment is ultimately designed to save labour by (for example) carrying loads down alleyways behind houses (where our teleporter won't go). It's quick to attach and easy to use. Best, Bailey
Was will man mit so einem Schwachsinn?
Die Idee ist, die Hydraulikleistung Ihres Baggers zu nutzen, damit das Anbaugerät mehr heben kann, als der Bagger alleine kann.
Great idea!
Max - Glad you think so! Thank you very much ... Best wishes from the EFL team