Trying out Army Painter Metallic Speedpaints! Do they work??
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
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I promised you guys a separate video on the Army Painter metallic speedpaints and I decided not to let you fine folk wait any longer! I show you guys how they work alone, with a wash, and finally with a quick dry brush! As I say often, my channel is about getting armies painted, not about getting individual models painted to perfection, so while not everyone might find a use for these paints, they're perfect for me! Cheers to my sponsor @Touret972 for sending over these perfect models for me to paint. If you're interested in 3D printed designs but don't have access to a printer, here's your solution! Check out their wide range of licences below and get painting!
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It would be interesting to see how the gold looks over a red undercoat. I used to do gold gilding and we used to put red pigment in the gesso to give the gold leaf a richer tone.
Oh I’d love to see that as well.
I'm planning on getting into doing Custodes, and I'll give that a try if I can remember to do it.
@@MediocreHobbies I think there’s a few colours that gilders use depending on what’s being gilded. I’m sure blue or black is used for silver or platinum, and I think Green for copper or bronze. It might be worth go as I know painters use a different toned undercoat so the top coat is closer to what the manufacturer intended on their colour cards.
I’ve used contrast paints on a metallic undercoat but not a painted undercoat followed by a contrast metallic, who knows!
I picked up some Golden Armour and Hoplite Gold for my 15mm Celestial Lions. God, it goes on lovely out the airbrush.
Yeah I'm really impressed by the tones they give!
I think I'll pick up that Hoplite Gold as a fast way to do gold, that looks great. Thanks for the demonstration Andy!
Anytime pal. Haven’t seen you in stream in a big hope your doing well.
I would like to see you do a full range test to find all your 10/10s - like the green and gold you have already identified- maybe just a shield or similar painted in each one then you could finish with a model done with speed paints you rate the highest
Great idea.
Great video, that gold looks lovely indeed. Would have been nice to see how the results look over a zenithal undercoated model as well. Cheers!
Anytime pal
Those colors look way better than expected. Yes, please do those other, if you get the time.
Sounds good pal.
For bronze, I tend to use it extensively for Mechanicus and picked up the Talos a few months ago, used it recently for my Arvus lighters and with a metallic undercoat it shifts it into a brass tone that I really like. I also use it to add some differentiation with Custodes and anything else that uses lots of gold, creates a slight but noticeable differentiation
Oh that’s fair.
I absolutely love Aztec Gold, Talos Bronze, and brazen Copper from their metallic speed paint set.
I want to say it was hoplite, glittering or hoard gold, can’t recall which, but it looks great against the Hardened leather speed paint.
For sure need to try the rest.
WOW! Love how they look after the wash and plate armor drybrush well have to try that on my golden necrons on working on. Great work!
Glad you liked it pal.
I have Talos Bronze and Glittering Loot and I find them absolutely great to use. They are fantastic paints. Im blown away by them. Im on board. I have a few of the verson 1s and I liked them too. Didnt have the problems that some had. Hard to believe how good these are. I am thumbs up number 100...
Sounds like me and you have had very similar experiences with these paints. So good.
That gold is incredible. Very rich and shiny. The silver is also really nice, could make for an excellent way to paint Iron Warriors very quickly. Just needs to be a bit darker perhaps.
For the bronze: the new style of Necrons go for a bronze scheme and I think it looks really good.
Great idea.
I just picked up the new metallic set. It is amazing. I really love the way these paints flow, and I usually hate metallic paint as they don't flow well at all.
Yeah it’s hard to get metallic paint to flow because of the particles in it but they did a great job with these
Have to say after all the bad things I heard online you show off here! Really love it.
Cheers pal.
The Bronzue is actually amazing for just a speed paint! the gold too and even the silver has its uses
They are so good, just need the right projects for each of them!
Not a fan of bronze but that silver highlight made it pop. I might get a pot for some ancient mechanicus robots.
Hope you find a good use for it pal.
I use bronze for all my non-powered necron claws, legs, etc. The canoptek alloy was just not intense enough for me. The army painter gold was just too reddish for me over white, but it looks great over a cool grey or medium brown base coat. I use both kinds of base/prime coats on the same model to get two different finishes on different parts with one application of final color.
Ye I really need to test them over other base coats.
The gold is particularly impressive. Thanks for the review.
Anytime pal.
Thanks for the tips on using different shades for different metallics
Anytime pal
I love them as i do a sort loyalist iron warriors with some purple arm thisvworks plus they have black and purple metalics aswell ( i like to use metalic for armors ) and this copper i use copper on my tanks and dreadnoughts to represent self repairs as they refuse to work with the mechanucum
That’s such a cool use pal. Need to get the rest.
I would love to see you use the other metalic speed paints please sir.
Same pal. Hope to try them soon.
It's awesome that we now have access to contrast paints, and now speed paints ( by GW and Army painter, respectively). Thanks for sharing this video with us. Those models look great, too.
I know, right! IMO, we're in a golden era of anything miniatures related. Wargaming, RPGs, scale modeling, and all sorts of other niches seem to be flourishing these years.
There are several other alternatives to speedpaints, just in case you haven't heard: Xpress paints by Vallejo and Dipping Inks by Green Stuff World comes to mind, but there are more
It is such a good time to be in the hobby.
Your content delivers yet again Sir, would love to see you use and test out the other metallic speed paints.
Ye I shall do my best to get them.
Great to see what the metallics look like. Would love to see what the other ones look like too!
Same. Hope to get them soon
They all turned out very well. The bronze and silver improved with shading drastically. I think I will be investing in some speed paint 2.0
Good to know pal.
Another great video - thanks for this. Would definitely be keen to see the rest of the metallics and how they can best be used.
I shall try get my hands on them.
I have that exact set so it's good for me to see you putting the colours on models. I agree about the gold and was thinking Custodes as well, you could knock out an army of those very quickly with that paint. I've put flesh wash on Orks green skin before, the yellow in it helps with the highlights of the skin. Worth a try sometime. 🙂
Oh very good. Glad tour liking the videos.
Love these reviews! 😃
Cheers pal.
ooooohhhhhhh Shiny! Was on the fence with these. Will def pick them up now. Thanks for the vid!
Anytime pal. Ye I for sure think there worth a try.
YEEESSS. Love these and another exceptional video 👏👏👏👍👍👌. Now for anyone using the new AP Metallic Speedpaints try priming the colours with a bright silver base. Stormhost Silver or VJ Metal Colour Chrome. Watch these SP Metallics pop over a bright silver base. Then cut in recesses and panel lines with a colour appropriate shade (Agrax for gold and a blue or black for silvers), then edge highlight with the original base silver. BOOM spectacular chromic golds/silvers/bronze. Another tip don't use the AP Speedpaint medium with these Metallics. I think the medium has a matting agent in it which kills the metallic shine. These paints thin nicely with water. So the bronzes thinned might work as shade washes for the golds? O and do try the other Metallic Speedpaint Golds, they are beautiful. Keep up the good work chap 💪👍☺️.
I need to try this. Thanks.
Love the look of the steel
Cheers.
The gold is gorgeous a definite purchase. Wasn't sold on the silver until after the drybrush which made the difference for me. The bronze i can't see a use for yet. Please review the rest of the metallics if you can.
Love your channel.
So kind pal thanks. And yes I will do my best to get the rest.
You're the best man 👍🏾
Aw cheers for that!
Nice. Definitely would like to see other of these metallics. I am also wondering how they would work in a slap chop.
Ye I need to for sure get more.
i got nearly all the colors and love them all. I found out if you use the speedpaint medium it dilutes the metallics to make other shades. And some of the stuff I paint it worked great (I am all over the place with miniatures).
That’s a great tip pal. Thanks.
I have the entire speed paint range , it's def got some o my gosh paints in it , I like them for sure , I tend to pick up contrast paints more though , even though every time I try a speedpaint I love it way more then the results Im getting from contrast paints.......habits are hard to break. Thanks for the videos , I enjoy all of them ........keep up the good work.......
Ye I’m kinda the same. I have my ways.
Would have been good to see these over a black base primer. The gold especially seems good though - as in the Vallejo MCS the gold is the weak link
Ye I’m just so used to using bright primers. I for sure need to test over other basecoats.
Thanks a lot for that video! I actually like the bronze the most!
Good to know I need to find more issues for it.
Cheers Andy! Just picked up the gold now!
Good to hear pal.
I got "Hoard Bronze" and I didn't really like it. Would be interesting to see a direct comparison though as I only used it on small objects so far.
Ye that’s why I want to get the set to try them all I’m sure some are better then others.
I’d love to see the rest of them!
I shall try squeeze in a video then pal.
That would be awesome :)@@MediocreHobbies
Gold is spectacular.
It’s really is!
I am sold, ordering some now.
Hahah nice.
They look great. The bronze looks more like copper to me, though.
Thank you for the great video.
Yeah it’s weird! Glad you liked it though!
It does look like copper close up. Halfway across a tabletop it looks spot on. Maybe it's the basement lights.
the aztec gold one is my fav, i have them all and aztec gold is my go to for most stuff and the enchanted steel is also amazing
Oh interesting. I do need the full set.
I got the metallic speed paint set before I got any of the other speed paints and i really like them. That hoplite gold is definitely going on my Custodes. If you get the chance check out Aztec gold. Its a cool greenish gold. I don't know what I'll use it for but i love the way it looks.
I often use Necro Gold from scale 75 and it’s a gold with a green tint to it. I found myself using it on anything “evil” like chaos space marine, or anything undead like skeletons etc. I also plan on using it for some Seraphon models at some point in the future.
Ye I need to try the rest.
So many people have talked about necro gold I need to try some
Scale 75.
Those minis are so sick
Yeah they’re awesome!
I'm a simple man. I see Scavenger Droitex, I click.
Hahah fair point.
They do an enchanted steel, which has blue undertones and looks awsome
I’d like to try that.
The first thing I thought when I saw how that gold went on the model was "new idea for my custodes?". And that Talos might be ok for the Sisters of Silence? Especially after the wash, I think? But maybe there's something better in the line, gotta check it.
Either way, great job with testing on real life models, and ones from StationForge at that :)!
I do love me some station forge.
I’ve loved them I did a I guess slap chop of them with their metallics then a speed paint metal over top . Night scale up too fairy dust for the pre shade .
Good to know.
I have previously avoided the speedpaint metallics ( yes largely due to internet snobbery over you cant do metallic speedpaints type reviews) but this video has really convinced me to have a go with them, thanks. Did you by any chance varnish them after this? If so, what were your results like? Thanks.
Nope no varnish. And I’m glad you will give them a chance. There fun paints.
Aztec gold and horde bronze are also fantastic
Yeah I really need to get my hands on more of them!
Beautiful and those extra 2 steps make a big difference.
Oh for sure.
Wow, those Kastelan substitutes look amazing, as well as that gold paint. Odd how the bronze looks more like copper to my eyes though.
Yeah you’re not the first person to say that! Need to try their copper to see why they called this one bronze 😄
would like to see you get the rest of the metallics to experiment with. I have found the Golden Armour and Aztec Gold nice as well.
Ye I for sure need the rest.
Wow those models are perfect for the Men of Iron👍
That’s a really good point.
I picked up the full set of metallics and I love most of them. The only one I didn't care for was talos bronze. I haven't found a use for it. I just need to play with it a bit more.
Sounds good. Glad you liked so many of them.
Great video as usual. Do you think the gold would be good for the trim on thousand sons over a blue undercoat? I didn’t know if it’d be a bit runny and hard to control.
It would be hard to get it neatly on the trim of a marine. I’d say stick with normal paints for that.
Looks excatly how it came out when i mixed citadel contrast and stormhost silver. But yeah this is a cheaper option hehe
That’s interesting.
I have been using these with a high silver undercoat. that way I can skip the silver dry brush.
Interesting.
I coundn't believe how good the bronze came out once you'd finished shading and drybrushing it, cos i thought it looked crap out the pot, colour just seemed totally off to me. gold looked fab, silver a bit meh initially but again great after you'd finished. tbh i'm sure i see the point of metallic speedpaints yet as they do look good with the extra work you put in, but i thought they were supposed to work out the pot. imo only the gold really worked straight off 9although it looked a lot better with the wash etc)
They’re not to replace all the stages of painting for everything, just to speed things up! Glad you liked the results!
Sold! I never had an issue with the old speed paints. But I’m mediocre at best😊. Speaking of sold, I sill plan on getting the trench bases for my guard. Will using your link get you a kickback? Or just tell’um Andy sent me 😂
Just let them know I sent you pal.
I would love to see some Custodes with these paints! Have you tried the metallic speedpaints over a black undercoat?
Well that’s not how speed paints or contrast work they need to be applied over a light base coat. Black would be awful.
Sorry I kinda don`t understand how it is faster (or different) than the ordinary "Base-wash-highlight" process?
Don`t get me wrong these results are cool, and colors are pretty interesting, but even the black primer plus a drybrush of arts`n`craft metallics give pretty cool metal effect.
Anyway thanks for the interesting and useful video!
I have a video in my channel comparing the speed of basecoating a model with normal paints and then the same model with contacts and the speed difference is huge.
How do you think the gold speed paint will handle for some chaos armor trim?
Not sure about trim honestly. It is a bit runnier then contrast so mite be hard to keep to just the trim.
As a jeweller who works almost exclusively in bronze, silver and copper. That "bronze" is far closer to copper.
Good to know. Thanks.
They are awesome for speedpainting necrons 😂
Oh yes.
8:45, inhales the microphone.
Tasty tasty microphone.
The Bronze seems like a very red Copper to me.
Yeah I do wonder what their copper is like 😄
How long are you letting the metallic dry before hitting it with the shading? Does it set fairly quick?
Oh ye very quick. Less than 5 minutes.
The games workshop tomb kings army for old world might be a good chance for you to use bronze
Not a bad idea at all.
Did you see the new release from stationforge today?!? I think it needs to go in your krieg army!
Oh yes yes yes.
Army painter said that the speed paints of metallics isn't meant to give highlights to shadows,but instead it's meant to be a one coat coverage.
Good to know, thanks!
Will they be selling these individually or only as a set? As I am painting CSM right now and there is a lot of trim, I'd like to try them out! Thank you for the video!!
They’ll be separate(soon if not already!)
Awesome thank you! Went to my local shop and they just had the 50$ set. Might just end up getting that one to have them all.@@MediocreHobbies
I wonder how they'll flow through a airbrush
I haven’t tried yet. Should be fun
Bronze scheme could work with Minotaurs, Minotaur armour one coat solution? 😳
Not a bad idea at all.
Did you notice any reactivation issues? How long did you leave them before applying the wash/drybrush?
Not long. Maybe 5 minutes.
I used broadsword silver and it is pretty nice paint with good coverage. But it costs more comparing with common metallics (like all speedpaints) and I do not get significant benefits or differences - it is not translucent like other speedpaint, so makes no sense for slapchop, it flows better, but I can thin common metallic to that viscocity. So what are benefits?
It’s just Great for fast applying.
I usually use bronze for anything Egyptian cuss they are something you associate with bronze
Very good point maybe my tombkings need to be bronze
To me the "Bronze" is actually a copper colour.
That’s what I mean about not being good at these tones.
How to paint C3PO in 6 minutes 😁
Gahahah literally thought that as I was painting it.
The end effect for sure isn't bad. However, the entire point of it is moot if you need to use a wash and a dry brush afterwards to get it to look decent. You can get the exact same effect by using a normal metallic paint then, and more likely than not get an even better result because of it. The only advantage I see is that it's less thick and thus easier to paint on. But there are brands out there that already make metallic paint that is just as smooth if not smoother. As someone who likes contrast and is very impressed by what you can do with it. I'm going to say this one is a fail.
I don’t agree. If you watch my content I use contrast as a very fast way of applying basecoats. I then always always shade and layer the parts after that. So the point I’m using them is time. And I’m my opinion saving time painting is one of the most important things. Especially if you want to be an army painter……(see what I did there?) so there not pointless at all. But I appreciate your comment.
I was wondering the same thing, but I think you can't underestimate the utility of having something that is ready to go at the right consistency and pigment density right out of the bottle. I think you are right that there may be some metallic products that are thin and smooth with more pigment - I have some Winsor and Newton silver metallic ink that comes to mind - but having used it on plastics I know it has some adhesion issues, and it is expensive, so I'd hesitate to use it for something like a large basecoat. I also wonder if it would be owerpowering as it is very bright.So personally, I could definitely get good use of something like the speed paint, and there probably isn't ANY kind of paint that I'd just leave without shades and highlighting. Still though, I think you raised an interesting point.
woundnt really say those figs are rock bottom prices
Fair
I'd watch more if you decide you want to have a look at the other metallics
Glad to hear pal.
Your bronze looks alot more like a copper. You sure it isn't copper?
It’s called Talos Bronze, I’m going by the name 😄
They don't work like the normals, only about 20%, so less effect to small weapons, only usable to big complex things.
Cheers for that pal.
The best colours aren't in there sadly, Aztec Gold is awesome.
Damn it, have to get it soon!
I found this review rather mediocre
Sounds like I nailed it then 😄
How to paint C3PO in 6 minutes 😁
Very true.