I lost my church membership because of breaking my covenants from a struggle with sexual addiction (adultery). I still had and have a testimony of Jesus Christ and his restored church. I made the decision to accept responsibility for my choices and to go through a very painful, humbling process of repentance and reconciliation. I was eventually re-baptized and I look forward to having my priesthood blessings restored. I chose to humble myself and not blame the church for my weaknesses. I am so grateful for Jesus Christ and for forgiveness. It saddens me to see someone throw away such rich blessings and to mock that which is good. Yes, God asks us to live righteous lives in a fallen world...and it's not always easy, but it's worth it.
WOW. i am shocked you were actually disciplined at all..my daughters husband used her for a green card, got her pregnant refused to touch her the moment she got pregnant and then repeatedely cheated on her..from what she was told they won't discipline him ..They made it clear that that does not happen anymore in many cases and she needs to just get over the church doing nothing.. It has broken her so badly she has left the church..Some were evil enough to say she was lucky anyone wanted to even use her because what Priesthood holder would want an Autistic woman..She has had the most vile horrible things said to her in the church FOR YEARS and she put up with it until those comments were made..It was the final straw.... She is finally starting to heal AWAY from the church..As parents we can't abide the way she has been talked to and treated and are leaving too( we should have protected her and removed ourselves out of the church long before instead of allowing her to be continued to be mocked and abused..This pod cast is often VILE with all the hot wife, hot woman talk and part of the evil that chases out really righteous woman that can't ever fit that DEMANDED EXPECTATION and leaves woman like my daughter used by actual evil men in this church that are not called out
I am a muslim but I cannot stand people who do not understand their own beliefs and spread falsehood and lies. Even if I am not mormon, I want to go to a person who understands the doctrine. Not just someone who says I am an ex believer, here is my experience. A lot of what people say to "debunk" a belief all comes from how they feel and what they want to change about the religion.
Ex members that speak out have lived this life intensively for most of their lives. Their experiences are real . They are valid. They more often then not understand the doctrine better then active members
"Generally speaking, the most miserable people I know are those obsessed with themselves; the happiest people I know are those who lose themselves in the service of others. " ~ Gordon B. Hinckley
@@RickH-bq8kh It’s funny because the Bible is bringing me back to the LDS church. Everyone’s path is different and I hope the best for you and your faith journey.
@@ryansmith6610 was that difficult to do? What helped? I have children who have left, and I want to keep the wonderful relationships we have. Any advice? I mean, so far I think I'm doing well at it, but wanted to get an outside perspective.
@@Famr4evr well, for me the premise is that everything hangs on Joseph Smith. If he wasn't a prophet, he didn't see what he said he saw, ect then the whole premise for a restored church falls apart. For me, believing that he wasn't a prophet then I took all his teachings with a grain of salt. Where all the other religions false, their creeds an abomination, their teachers having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. If the great apostacy, which is a teaching of Joseph Smith for the reason behind the needed restoration, isn't true then could biblical Christianity have something that the lds don't have. In Matthew Jesus said that the gates of hell would not prevail against his church. Was that a lie or a misunderstanding of scripture. I have come to see God as something far greater than my feeble imagination can comprehend. The answer for me was Jesus. Not Jesus plus whatever, Jesus is enough. Good luck with your family members, I know that many leave and feel that if the church isn't true then nothing is , but that stems from what we where taught. People just take the basic principles of the Gospel and apply them equally to what the perceive from the church.
@@Famr4evr I know that it has been hard for my parents as well. What happens to the forever family outside the church. I would say that if we are united and sealed together in our love and worship of Jesus Christ, then the all powerful creator of everything seen and unseen can and does hold his people together. Jesus said that those the father gave him are his and no one can pluck them from his hand.
As a latter-day Saint in Utah, I have been to tons of LDS funerals, including people who I was sad to see die. The funerals are often very happy places because 1. We believe we'll see them very soon and 2. It's a well-attended family reunion. Every one of your family and close friends makes an effort to come. So yes, we miss the person who died, but also we are happy to see all the loved ones. It reminds us of what we expect heaven to be like.
It's also similar to Polynesian funerals in a way, with a lot of family gathering. 🤷 With active church member funerals, it's always been a celebration & remembrance of the life of who's passed instead of just mourning a loss.
Thanks for addressing this. I have been annoyed to hear this woman turn on the church and us members very bitterly. I don’t respond when I get an uninvited clip from her, but at times I want too.
He's not alone. Plenty of us feel like we are in limbo and it takes a lot of faith to get through all that we experience in this life. I believe it will be worth the wait~🙏😇
When I was in the Army, I was one of the few soldiers who did NOT have tattoos. When we would go shirtless the reactions were interesting. Sometimes guys would mention that I didnt have any, and often it seemed by their expression that they were a little disappointed in the markings they had all over their body. Some guys were completely plastered with them. I think many of them thought it was cool that I never did any.
And for what it's worth, I didn't run straight home and take out the 2nd pair of earrings. I was a teenager and it bugged me. I fought it for a couple of weeks, then decided I'd go with obedience in the meantime and pray for a confirmation. And honestly, it wasn't until I was well into my 20s before I was like "I know he's a prophet and I'm glad I followed". And honestly today, at 40, seeing everyone getting all tatted up and pierced everywhere, and gauges and such, I can really see the value in setting ourselves apart from the world in that way, and that perhaps that's what President Hinckley saw that I couldn't at 15.
@@dcarts5616 Honestly, that literally hit me this morning while listening to the video. I was like "Oh my gosh!! He wanted us to be different from everyone else!" And it's definitely a modesty thing, imo (if modesty is defined as intentionally drawing undue attention to your physical appearance).
@@dcarts5616 But seriously... We're not just drones, acting in blind obedience, as Alyssa suggested. Whether our obedience comes immediately or (like with me) ends up taking a little while, I've no doubt that most girls and women had a testimony of the prophet and a true spiritual impression to follow his counsels.
Yes same for me basically. I have also decided that piercings and tattoos have become addictive. These days very few have just one. So I think he helped many of us avoid another harmful addiction, like coffee or alcohol etc. Recently I have also learned about what it does to the immune system and how often the ink is toxic, so, another harm avoided!
I’m a Muslim, and while there are so many things different about our faiths, there are many common. I started watching her channel out of curiosity but now I feel like it’s downright disrespectful. I’m not a Mormon but as someone who believes in God and Jesus Christ, i find her videos incredibly disrespectful. It’s almost as if she is trying so hard to prove that “has made it”. What started off as an informative channel is now just blasphemous and hateful towards all religions that believe in God and Jesus
I am glad to see a fellow muslim. I was watching her and I made a comment on her video and her fanbase said Islamophobic things to me. I know you cannot blame the content creator but the people who you attract within your content says a lot about a person. I was accepted by Christians and Jews more than atheists.
I am a Latter-day Saint and I have a Koran that I am reading. Although I am reading it to be informed, I respect it the way a Muslim would respect it. I also do not listen to evangelical christians who criticize Islam. I keep the Koran on the higher book shelf with my other scriptures and I do not write in it, even though its not my scriptures. When I speak to a Muslim I can say I am informed on an authentic basis. Your observation is spot on.
We buried my grandmother last week. We smiled for photos. Why? We were there coming back together as a family and celebrating her life. And to cherish that she could rest before we the Resurrection.
I love listening to all of you. We converted in 2019. My son (28) has really been struggling honestly because when we joined girls weren’t interested in him because he was a newish convert and he might change his mind and because he had tattoos that were viable in a tshirt. Now the tattoos are still an issue. He has really struggled and I have just kept telling him that his eternal companion isn’t ready for him yet. Gods time is the best time. But he is lonely. There aren’t guys in our ward his age who aren’t married and the singles ward is all 18 years old. Soooo he feels like he’s in limbo. I just pray for him every day.
Obviously, this young woman is before us on her path. We must help her by reaching out and send her love (not pretend love, actual love)………….remind her she is your sister, wish her well.
My daughter is 27, went on a mission, came home and got some cute tattoos, (gasp,) also feels judged by some, but that's just part of the difference between how some people are still learning how not to judge others... being extremely spiritual, studying the scriptures, and having tattoos are not not not incongruous ❤
Sorry to hear that! My sister just turned 29 and is in a similar place. From what I've seen, there just isn't a lot of single adults that are around her age where we live, so it's tough. Best of luck to your son!
@@ScaredyKari yeah we are in New England so it is mostly people with small kids or older adults. He’s a good guy. But he stopped dating and worked on himself and his faith. He’s still growing in a lot of ways but he keeps saying, ‘mom you guys are great support but I want to grow my faith with someone. I want to play video games with someone and read the Book of Mormon with someone and talk about things. I want to learn how to have that connection like my sister has with her husband (they aren’t members) but I don’t want to give up my faith to do that.’ I’m proud of who he has become but also sad he is not sharing that with someone.
I think women who were born in the church and then leave to complain about it arr horrible. I'm sorry but when I hear them whine "oh I was told not have relationships outside of marriage and I had to sit in church for 3 hours and that abuse. Honey that is not abuse you had a great childhood...the outside world is not that great. It nearly broke me until I found the church. They are so ungrateful for the gift of having a normal life unlike some people
They don’t have a clue what real abuse, real trauma, or real suffering means. As western civilization crumbles under the weight of iniquity, they are going to get to experience the real trauma, the real abuse, the real suffering that comes from godlessness, lawlessness and ignorance.
With your discussion on shame I think the terms you're looking for are Godly sorrow and worldly sorrow. The first leads to repentance and freedom. The second leads to victimhood and pride
If a person leaves the church and turns around and goes fanatic against it, Ive found these folks havnt repented, they are in a "justification" period. I left the church for 36 yrs. I didnt attack the church. I knew the church was and is true. I left because i felt guilt for not living the word of wisdom. Well satan had me all turned around but PRIDE kept me . Heavenly Father knows my heart and I came back. Iam 64yr.
As a Christian exmo it feels like you can't leave it alone because many of us have people we still love that are in, we want to talk about what we've found and then are told that we are reading anti Mormon materials when most the stuff that I found that made me leave were on church owned websites.
@3DFLYLOW - Church Members will live in this wheat-and-tares situation until the Millennium. Some real tares even masquerade as wheat, including a few eager individuals who lecture the rest of us about the Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone.
But come on, the BOM has no ancient texts that we can verify, and the BOM history has been proven to be false. No jewish indians, no nephite cities, no ancient battles in North America. BUT what is true Joseph was arrested for treasure digging using a seer stone that he then used to create the BOM. And the BOA, turned about to be a complete fraud also. right?
As a 75 yr old grandfather it is refreshing to hear how, "Real Women Think". Thanks for having the faith and courage to share your thoughts publicly...🎉🎉🎉
I've been to mostly LDS funerals, I have been LDS my whole life. I've been to funerals of young and old and even babies. The Spirit is strong at LDS funerals. There is the LOVE OF GOD so strong and a feeling of hope and bittersweet joy. I love how the death of a person can bring long lost family together. I've connected with cousins I hadn't seen in 20 years and now have that extra support in my life. When I have gone to funerals or "celebrations of life" that are not specifically LDS, there is just something incredibly significant missing from them. All the black and the darkness and depressing expressions... I didn't leave them uplifted the way I have at LDS funerals.
Her views on how the woman in the church, how they act and talk are so far removed from reality. Even my girls who are not active now never looked and acted like she portrays. And guess what they arent out bashing the church. Move on girl.
Imagine mocking someone who is grieving by exploiting their religious burial clothes, calling their tribute for their dead dad an Ad or depersonalizing them for smiling. That video deserves to be taken down for bullying.
Nah, it should stay up for the world to see the race to the bottom that exmos revel in. By their fruits ye shall know them. Any objective observer sees that Ballerina Farms is living a great, accomplished life. Alyssa is a case study in the ugliness that befalls those whose entire life revolves around bitterness, sarcasm and hatred. Humanity pities her.
@CNStanza1 she can grieve in her own way, but she doesn't need to try her best to burn the place down on her way out. Was Hitler's holocaust justified because he was "grieving"?
I remember a story from the Ensign, about 20 years ago: it concerned a young LDS man who was working in Saudi Arabia. He developed a friendship with a family and started informally teaching them. The kids were way ahead of the parents, and when the Word of Wisdom came up, the kids were going right along with the teaching....it was going GREAT! And then the Dad decided to test this young man's depth of teaching and resolve. The family had a silver and crystal set of cups and a small pitcher which contained some special alcoholic drink, that was specific to one of their beliefs. The Dad poured a small amount and offered it to the young man... and the young man took it and drank. The wonderful Spirit which had been there, evaporated immediately and the Dad ordered the young man out of the house, and to never come back. All that goodwill was just... gone. Who knows where the Church would be on the Arabian Peninsula, if the young man had stuck to his claims, and politely refused? One can only wonder.
I learned form a Jewish rabbi that tattooing and piercings are a sign of paganism and the worship of Baal. He pointed out that the further a society moves away from God, the more they begin to mark their bodies. We even see this behavior in The Book of Mormon, so it’s not at all surprising our church would advise against them. Many God worshiping religions do. Our society is highly involved in Baal worship. The vast majority of people have no idea that is what they are doing because we are so far removed from the historical context, but they are worshipping him nonetheless. The signs, practices, and markings are all here in our society. Biblically it was the prophets or priests of Baal that Elijah destroyed. I highly doubt anyone gets a tattoo or piercing and makes the connection, but they are still taking on the marking.
It is instructive that the X's focus on the relatively unimportant peripheral aspects of church rather than the basic principles and ordinances of the gospel. It isn't an easy sell to be against love and joy and redemption and progress.
The whole one piercing thing was Pres. Hinckley in general women's meeting. That said, having multiple piercings or tattoos aren't going to keep anyone from having a valid temple recommend, not when the "rule" was first said and not now.
Some of the things the prophets have warned against are really helpful. They also make us a peculiar people which is what we are suppose to be. I have found through my own health struggles that tattoos put heavy metals into our bodies which can affect our brains and caffeine is crazy corrosive on our nerves and adrenal glands, I’m so glad I stayed away from most this stuff throughout my life thanks to prophets because things could be much worse for me now. I don’t care what people do in general, just saying this is how this has worked out for me. The earrings though…
There is zero chat AI spit out those “more exmo” images. I spend countless hours creating images with AI and that is just not how it works. It is obvious to me that she very specifically told the program just what to add to the images. Completely misleading.
I used the "don't recommend channel" feature on CZcams to avoid this woman, and basically all exmos, because the lies are just that infuriating. And I just don't have a good outlet for that fury, so better to not let it in in the first place.
I loved this. Thanks guys. I love how you stand up and defend the truth and restored gospel culture. I love how articulate, intelligent, passionate, and may I say darn beautiful you all are ! 😉
I love the way y’all address these things. The clip with the alcohol made me really sad. I lost my virginity at 19 to my boyfriend I’d been with for 5 years at the time. It really upset my family and it caused a lot of tension, but my parents through their anger still loved me. That boy is now my husband and we are sealed. Mistakes are not the end.
I love that you and your husband were able to get sealed. I relate to your story in so many ways. My husband and I started dating when I was 14, and we got married a few months after I turned 18. We were inactive for the first couple of years of marriage and struggled in a lot of ways. But despite our journey being super crazy and difficult at times, we were finally able to be sealed together almost 2 years ago. We are living proof that mistakes are never the end. :')
Your story reminds me of Bryce Dunford's temple symbols video about Cherubim and the flaming sword. It is so good!! He reminds everyone that God gave us this life as a probationary period where we can make mistakes and learn from them and grow. He said that Satan desired to take that probationary period away from us, but God stopped him. So now, he tries to get us to remove our own probationary period! I highly recommend that video if you haven't seen it.
Thank you for debunking the bullying we have to put up with from some exmormons a lot of their podcast followers think they tell all the truth about the church and they dont most exagerate against the truth and tell lies
My wife converted in her 20s after a catholic upbringing. I ask her if she was angry at her family for raising her catholic or was mad at the catholic church. Of course her answer is no, it all helped to bring her along the path. My sister who is a bitter anti-mormon will make little barbs about the church to everyone about the church but not to my wife.
I'm so glad I was taught to guard my virginity and gift it to my husband on our wedding night. I'm sorry she lost hers at 17 like many others. There's hope in repentance because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ but people have to come voluntarily. He'll never force us.
Well good for you. You managed to conquer modesty and pride but missed compassion and caring. That young girl didn’t need your judgment (why you’re so much greater). A compassionate soul would have thought of how their comments might “shame” others.
@@sama.scraps She does deserve compassion but where is Alyssa's compassion for people who wish to practice our beliefs without having them ridiculed for likes and attention?
@@GwPoKoThat young girl wasn’t Alyssa. There were so many other “humble” ways to word this previous comment. This better than attitude pervades through many raised LDS and is hurtful to converts and those looking at being baptized. How fortunate this woman was that she had the gospel to guide her through her youth so she could withstand sexual pressures and temptation. There was no gratitude for her blessings,merely recognition of her accomplishments. If we truly believe in repentance, then one can become “whole” or virtuous again. I know too many youth who have been taught that they cannot be restored or fully forgiven. They are repaired with structural damage. This comes from the mistaken attitude that being a virgin is a gift to your spouse to be. So wrong! Virtue is a blessing for one’s self. It belongs to you through Christ. It protects women from the pain that immoral living brings. And it protects marriages from the consequences of immorality. And it can be restored through repentance and righteousness. Women are not objects in which men gain gifts from. Too many women have been put in places where choice was not optional.
21:30 I like what Elder Andersen said about guilt: "Guilt has an important role as it awakens us to changes we need to make, but there are limits to how far guilt will help us. Guilt is like a battery in a gasoline-powered car. It can light up the car, start the engine, and power the headlights, but it will not provide the fuel for the long journey ahead. The battery, by itself, is not sufficient. And neither is guilt."
Great job, ladies! I loved all of your input. Brittany, I especially loved how you brought up that we get ridiculed for abstaining from alcohol and yet, a alcoholic who finally gets sober is hailed as a hero. I feel like it is that way about most everything related to the church. I watch a channel of an orthodox Jewish woman. She is lovely! In her church, they can't show their collar bones, or their hair, or their legs. They even swim in long bathing dresses. All the people watching comment how lovely her culture is and her values are. (Rightly so) But, if this were a latter-day saint lady talking about the rules around modesty in HER culture and church, there would be relentless mocking in the comments.
As someone who drank and had a family member who self-medicated with alcohol- it’s not cool. Using a toxin to deal with your emotions is so incredibly dangerous, there are no benefits to alcohol and they destroy people. They didn’t miss out on anything other than puking and feeling horrible the next day
@@harambeboyfamilies are forever if you choose them by choosing God and keeping your covenants. That is the promise. Because it’s not God separating people, it’s people’s choices.
I don't think it's the least bit petty, Megan... I see it as a defense against slander and also a reminder that most of us don't talk/think/feel that way. When people see these exmo/promo videos, they might get the impression that that's all true. You guys are offering the opposite voice (and speaking with humor to those of us in the faith who enjoy your input and your collective strength).
The Church has many rules, guidelines, and expectations but not all of them are given the same weight. Mrs Grenfell knows this but does not care. She knows that nobody in the church has ever has received church discipline for having too many piercings or getting a tattoo. In my opinion, having a tattoo is punishment enough. A person spent a lot of money getting something on their body that they have live with for the rest of their life. Sure it might look good in the moment but as they age, the tattoo starts looking worse and worse and they may get bored of the dumb design that is on their body.
When talking about shame and guilt in the church, one of the best ways I ever had it taught was by my high school seminary teacher. He said, "Guilt is a Gift, but Shame is a Snake." Alot of times, people confuse the two or see them as interchangeable. Guilt is the knowledge that you've done something wrong and want to do better. Guilt is the spark that allows Christ to make our weaknesses strong. Shame on the other hand, is the judgement we receive from others or from a precieved culture when we do something different from what others see as right. This kind of emotion is only negative and seeks to tear things down. Guilt motivates while Shame destroys. I really wish more people in the gospel and even in Christianity understood this difference. It completely changed my perspective and helped me understand my divine potential and the way Christ truly seeks to save us in every possible way. 21:50
It’s sad but the “LIGHT” for Alyssa Grendel is dimming. When you actively seek to destroy truth, you destroy the goodness in your soul. After debunking her, she so needs our prayers.
We are taught true principles and then govern ourselves. We should not have to commanded in all things just use our heads and hearts. So great ful for guide lines carol
Thank you ladies this one was sooo good. Every single one of you has something so pertinent to contribute. This is so needed in our time and I applaud you for standing up.
Thank heavens honorable people are finally debunking these clowns. Turning the other cheek has limits. At some point we need to stand up and defend what is true and debunk the lies and slander.
It's good to see sisters not tolerating the mistruths of a person who couldn't repent and is now a paid puppet for ex-members continued justification of their own weaknesses. How amazing people who leave the church do not do so because they don't believe the teachings, they do it because they realize they can't follow the commandments of God. They do not go to another church but stop believing in God. They sell their souls. Blessings to you sisters who are examples of everything our Heavenly parents hope for all of us to be. You are heaven on earth.
I highly appreciate the debunking. I've always been the one who stands up for those who were too scared to stand up for themselves. And now i find myself as one of those people too scared to speak up. Debunking claims is like someone standing up for me while I'm in my low spot and can't find my feet. So, thank you for standing up for us. God bless ❤️🔥
I don't think this woman Alyssa doesn't understand some of the very basic doctrine, because when I listened and viewed 3 of her videos, I can gather that she went on a mission, but didn't keep on reading.
I think that debunking could be rewritten as being a witness for the truth and for Christ. One does not have to attack her, but one present truth as a disciple of Christ. When one tactfully and peacefully corrects another’s misinformation… the spirit has a chance to confirm truth. I really do not know her. But she appeared on my feed and she was showing the Temple garment, the Temple clothing and her homemade veil and explaining to an audience maybe not prepared with the spirit. It hurt my heart. It seemed like mockery. The comments were every bit as demeaning and I don’t know how we as Church and people combat that. We don’t want to be contentious (Satan’s plan) and yet videos like these lead others away from the Lord or off the path.😢
With tagging the flowers: my dad has a business and his coworkers have become close family friends. So tagging the company would be like tagging the friends who made one final bouquet for the person they love and worked for. We tag our friends when they show up in our feed, and often people will tag a relevant business even if they're not affiliated with it.
Wow,Tikla! Your perspective on the Word of Wisdom... Such an insightful take. I'd never considered that, but as someone who was exposed to pornography at the age of seven, and thus had to deal with lifelong addiction, it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that! The Women of Ward Radio are great!
You surely gave us heaven with this one 🥲 I can’t begin to explain how refreshing this episode is!!!!! you ALL have articulated perfectly the very thoughts and feelings I have about all of this madness that is out there about the church.🤦♀️🙄 Thank you thank you thank you! P.S. Brittany, the “was it herbal tea” line hahaha You are hilarious I love you 🤍🤍
There are definitely many church families that function on fear of what everyone else will think of them. They teach their children to function on fear and to keep the commandments in fear of what what church people will say about them if they don't. This is not what the church teaches but are the traditions of the fathers passed down.
Thank you Megan (and all of you wonderful ladies) for publicly sharing your life journeys and experiences. I was born in Salt Lake City into a family filled with early church member ancestors. The culture I grew up in was spiritually strong but often showed a narrow understanding of people outside of our daily experiences. I have seen (and experienced) how Church culture can sometimes struggle with being inclusive. (Which is really sad because that is what the gospel of Jesus Christ is all about!) It is SO important, especially now that the Church is more wordwide, to normalize, as you said, "all shapes and sizes" into our culture. This is one reason I love the Church because true disciples of Christ gravitate toward a willingness to learn about the good in others, and learn from the good in others, no matter what their stories are. Pointing out the lies and negative influences online by debunking is important, but your willingness to sit in that chair and publicly tell your story and you testimony, and share the happiness that has come along with your life decisions is much needed and very powerful! Also, (I think it was Tikla) your story about the Bishop saying, "That's it! We're all going to the tatoo parlor!" made me so happy! We need to have that kind of love for each other. My life experiences have made me want to be an activist for inclusivity in Church culture and you Women of Ward Radio are my role models! ❤
40:33 Guess what we discussed in Relief Society this week? Some of it was verses from Alma 5. 30-31 says “is there one among you that doth make a MOCK of his brother, or that heapeth upon him persecutions? Wo unto such an one, for he is not prepared, and the time is at hand that he must repent or he [she in this case] cannot be saved!”
Go give them Heaven 😂. I love you all. Such wise and kind women. Love it that we are seeing push back against the lies and disrespect of our faith. Keep up the good work. ❤
"Church members will live [with]...individuals who lecture the rest of us about Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves, of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone." Elder Neal A. Maxwell
I was on a holiday in Samoa with some friends. We all got sick. I had a vision a thin Samoan woman who had a similar spiritual feeling as christ. I got healed. I was the only one that did, and it was instant. Im all for good experiences. But sadly, more people outside the church believe than inside. I normally dont mention spiritual experiences with active members because of thier attitudes.
I loved your guy’s input! I think Alyssa is allowed to share content that helps her express her self-identity thinking even if our religion disagrees with it. That is her right, but when it comes to mocking we also have a right to defend ourselves. Respecting other people’s beliefs is so important for humanity’s sack. Everyone has the right to find clarity for their own lives.
I think the problem with Alyssa is that she is openly mocking things that members will consider sacred. You don’t really see that with other religions like Muslims, Sikhs, or even Catholics. And now that she can monetize on it she is spreading falsehoods and misinformation because the more “shocking” she can be the more views she gets. It honestly feels like she sold her soul
I would go a bit farther than that. She is bullying and "other-izing" an entire group of people (not so dissimilar to Nazi, anti-Jewish propaganda) for personal gain. With so many worthwhile causes in the world she could pursue (poverty, slavery, and oppression, for instance), this is the platform she has chosen- to contribute to, rather than lessen, human suffering.
I lost my church membership because of breaking my covenants from a struggle with sexual addiction (adultery). I still had and have a testimony of Jesus Christ and his restored church. I made the decision to accept responsibility for my choices and to go through a very painful, humbling process of repentance and reconciliation. I was eventually re-baptized and I look forward to having my priesthood blessings restored. I chose to humble myself and not blame the church for my weaknesses. I am so grateful for Jesus Christ and for forgiveness. It saddens me to see someone throw away such rich blessings and to mock that which is good. Yes, God asks us to live righteous lives in a fallen world...and it's not always easy, but it's worth it.
From brother to brother: Good job. It is brave to face the lion of our own mistakes. God is proud of you. Keep it up - you are inspiring.
Thank you for being real. We all need Jesus. This is what the gospel is all about.
Wow, brother. You're awesome. This is the type of humility God wants. Wow.
WOW. i am shocked you were actually disciplined at all..my daughters husband used her for a green card, got her pregnant refused to touch her the moment she got pregnant and then repeatedely cheated on her..from what she was told they won't discipline him ..They made it clear that that does not happen anymore in many cases and she needs to just get over the church doing nothing.. It has broken her so badly she has left the church..Some were evil enough to say she was lucky anyone wanted to even use her because what Priesthood holder would want an Autistic woman..She has had the most vile horrible things said to her in the church FOR YEARS and she put up with it until those comments were made..It was the final straw.... She is finally starting to heal AWAY from the church..As parents we can't abide the way she has been talked to and treated and are leaving too( we should have protected her and removed ourselves out of the church long before instead of allowing her to be continued to be mocked and abused..This pod cast is often VILE with all the hot wife, hot woman talk and part of the evil that chases out really righteous woman that can't ever fit that DEMANDED EXPECTATION and leaves woman like my daughter used by actual evil men in this church that are not called out
good on you, man
I am a muslim but I cannot stand people who do not understand their own beliefs and spread falsehood and lies. Even if I am not mormon, I want to go to a person who understands the doctrine. Not just someone who says I am an ex believer, here is my experience. A lot of what people say to "debunk" a belief all comes from how they feel and what they want to change about the religion.
You’re great. I appreciate your comment!
Ex members that speak out have lived this life intensively for most of their lives. Their experiences are real . They are valid. They more often then not understand the doctrine better then active members
"Generally speaking, the most miserable people I know are those obsessed with themselves; the happiest people I know are those who lose themselves in the service of others. " ~ Gordon B. Hinckley
As long as Hinkley was getting something for free from members he was happy. Other than that he looked a miserable Joyless old Coot
I've never felt happier or closer to the Lord since leaving Mormonism and embracing the Bible alone.
@@RickH-bq8kh I am glad that that works best for you
@@RickH-bq8kh It’s funny because the Bible is bringing me back to the LDS church. Everyone’s path is different and I hope the best for you and your faith journey.
@@Irvingdector Super cool!
As an exmo who disliked Utah Mormonism. I dislike Utah exmos more 😂
lololol
Agreed, as an exmo myself, I needed to build my self on a foundation of Christ and not of hate for the people that I am still a part of culturally.
@@ryansmith6610 was that difficult to do? What helped? I have children who have left, and I want to keep the wonderful relationships we have. Any advice? I mean, so far I think I'm doing well at it, but wanted to get an outside perspective.
@@Famr4evr well, for me the premise is that everything hangs on Joseph Smith. If he wasn't a prophet, he didn't see what he said he saw, ect then the whole premise for a restored church falls apart. For me, believing that he wasn't a prophet then I took all his teachings with a grain of salt. Where all the other religions false, their creeds an abomination, their teachers having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. If the great apostacy, which is a teaching of Joseph Smith for the reason behind the needed restoration, isn't true then could biblical Christianity have something that the lds don't have. In Matthew Jesus said that the gates of hell would not prevail against his church. Was that a lie or a misunderstanding of scripture. I have come to see God as something far greater than my feeble imagination can comprehend. The answer for me was Jesus. Not Jesus plus whatever, Jesus is enough. Good luck with your family members, I know that many leave and feel that if the church isn't true then nothing is , but that stems from what we where taught. People just take the basic principles of the Gospel and apply them equally to what the perceive from the church.
@@Famr4evr I know that it has been hard for my parents as well. What happens to the forever family outside the church. I would say that if we are united and sealed together in our love and worship of Jesus Christ, then the all powerful creator of everything seen and unseen can and does hold his people together. Jesus said that those the father gave him are his and no one can pluck them from his hand.
As a latter-day Saint in Utah, I have been to tons of LDS funerals, including people who I was sad to see die. The funerals are often very happy places because 1. We believe we'll see them very soon and 2. It's a well-attended family reunion. Every one of your family and close friends makes an effort to come. So yes, we miss the person who died, but also we are happy to see all the loved ones. It reminds us of what we expect heaven to be like.
Exactly. It's a different experience to people who have the gift of the holy ghost.
It's also similar to Polynesian funerals in a way, with a lot of family gathering. 🤷 With active church member funerals, it's always been a celebration & remembrance of the life of who's passed instead of just mourning a loss.
Thanks for addressing this. I have been annoyed to hear this woman turn on the church and us members very bitterly. I don’t respond when I get an uninvited clip from her, but at times I want too.
Is she organic or by design…?
It’s good that you’re watching though, like seeds planted
He's not alone. Plenty of us feel like we are in limbo and it takes a lot of faith to get through all that we experience in this life. I believe it will be worth the wait~🙏😇
When I was in the Army, I was one of the few soldiers who did NOT have tattoos. When we would go shirtless the reactions were interesting. Sometimes guys would mention that I didnt have any, and often it seemed by their expression that they were a little disappointed in the markings they had all over their body. Some guys were completely plastered with them. I think many of them thought it was cool that I never did any.
And for what it's worth, I didn't run straight home and take out the 2nd pair of earrings. I was a teenager and it bugged me. I fought it for a couple of weeks, then decided I'd go with obedience in the meantime and pray for a confirmation. And honestly, it wasn't until I was well into my 20s before I was like "I know he's a prophet and I'm glad I followed". And honestly today, at 40, seeing everyone getting all tatted up and pierced everywhere, and gauges and such, I can really see the value in setting ourselves apart from the world in that way, and that perhaps that's what President Hinckley saw that I couldn't at 15.
You’re 100% correct on exactly what it was all about. You heard with the right ears, and acted.
@@dcarts5616 Honestly, that literally hit me this morning while listening to the video. I was like "Oh my gosh!! He wanted us to be different from everyone else!" And it's definitely a modesty thing, imo (if modesty is defined as intentionally drawing undue attention to your physical appearance).
@@dcarts5616 But seriously... We're not just drones, acting in blind obedience, as Alyssa suggested. Whether our obedience comes immediately or (like with me) ends up taking a little while, I've no doubt that most girls and women had a testimony of the prophet and a true spiritual impression to follow his counsels.
@@lizaruth2a Yes!!! He wants us to be different, he wants us to be His people. You rock!
Yes same for me basically. I have also decided that piercings and tattoos have become addictive. These days very few have just one. So I think he helped many of us avoid another harmful addiction, like coffee or alcohol etc. Recently I have also learned about what it does to the immune system and how often the ink is toxic, so, another harm avoided!
I’m a Muslim, and while there are so many things different about our faiths, there are many common. I started watching her channel out of curiosity but now I feel like it’s downright disrespectful. I’m not a Mormon but as someone who believes in God and Jesus Christ, i find her videos incredibly disrespectful. It’s almost as if she is trying so hard to prove that “has made it”.
What started off as an informative channel is now just blasphemous and hateful towards all religions that believe in God and Jesus
I am glad to see a fellow muslim. I was watching her and I made a comment on her video and her fanbase said Islamophobic things to me. I know you cannot blame the content creator but the people who you attract within your content says a lot about a person. I was accepted by Christians and Jews more than atheists.
I am not muslim, but i love the muslim faith. I have such respect for it! We are all children of God
@@Hi-jw7oq You are so sweet! May Allah bless and protect you!❤
I am a Latter-day Saint and I have a Koran that I am reading. Although I am reading it to be informed, I respect it the way a Muslim would respect it. I also do not listen to evangelical christians who criticize Islam. I keep the Koran on the higher book shelf with my other scriptures and I do not write in it, even though its not my scriptures. When I speak to a Muslim I can say I am informed on an authentic basis. Your observation is spot on.
@@KingofQueens452 thank you ❤️ I think when you have faith in God, be it in any religion, you learn to have respect for different religions.
I've seen pictures from funerals across all religions with people smiling because SMILING IN PICTURES IS A SOCITAL NORM!
We buried my grandmother last week. We smiled for photos. Why? We were there coming back together as a family and celebrating her life. And to cherish that she could rest before we the Resurrection.
@@mikestacyemett5914I'm so sorry for your loss ❤
@@mikestacyemett5914 Sorry for your loss. Grandparents are hard to lose.
I love listening to all of you. We converted in 2019. My son (28) has really been struggling honestly because when we joined girls weren’t interested in him because he was a newish convert and he might change his mind and because he had tattoos that were viable in a tshirt. Now the tattoos are still an issue. He has really struggled and I have just kept telling him that his eternal companion isn’t ready for him yet. Gods time is the best time. But he is lonely. There aren’t guys in our ward his age who aren’t married and the singles ward is all 18 years old. Soooo he feels like he’s in limbo. I just pray for him every day.
Obviously, this young woman is before us on her path. We must help her by reaching out and send her love (not pretend love, actual love)………….remind her she is your sister, wish her well.
My daughter is 27, went on a mission, came home and got some cute tattoos, (gasp,) also feels judged by some, but that's just part of the difference between how some people are still learning how not to judge others... being extremely spiritual, studying the scriptures, and having tattoos are not not not incongruous ❤
Welcome to my world@@JohnSmith-fd4ws
Sorry to hear that! My sister just turned 29 and is in a similar place. From what I've seen, there just isn't a lot of single adults that are around her age where we live, so it's tough. Best of luck to your son!
@@ScaredyKari yeah we are in New England so it is mostly people with small kids or older adults. He’s a good guy. But he stopped dating and worked on himself and his faith. He’s still growing in a lot of ways but he keeps saying, ‘mom you guys are great support but I want to grow my faith with someone. I want to play video games with someone and read the Book of Mormon with someone and talk about things. I want to learn how to have that connection like my sister has with her husband (they aren’t members) but I don’t want to give up my faith to do that.’ I’m proud of who he has become but also sad he is not sharing that with someone.
"people ridicule you for having self control."
that comment hit me. it's so true. and it makes me think of others comments as a spec of sand.
I love that point about the Word of Wisdom in regard to the weakest among us.
I think women who were born in the church and then leave to complain about it arr horrible. I'm sorry but when I hear them whine "oh I was told not have relationships outside of marriage and I had to sit in church for 3 hours and that abuse. Honey that is not abuse you had a great childhood...the outside world is not that great. It nearly broke me until I found the church. They are so ungrateful for the gift of having a normal life unlike some people
Yep
As a convert to the church, they don’t know how good they have it in the gospel.
They don’t have a clue what real abuse, real trauma, or real suffering means. As western civilization crumbles under the weight of iniquity, they are going to get to experience the real trauma, the real abuse, the real suffering that comes from godlessness, lawlessness and ignorance.
@@fitmomx3673 How long have you been a member?
I wish I could give more than one thumbs up!
Thanks ladies. I was impressed with your empathy and love for your fellow man(woman).
With your discussion on shame I think the terms you're looking for are Godly sorrow and worldly sorrow. The first leads to repentance and freedom. The second leads to victimhood and pride
I like these ladies. Good job.
If a person leaves the church and turns around and goes fanatic against it, Ive found these folks havnt repented, they are in a "justification" period. I left the church for 36 yrs. I didnt attack the church. I knew the church was and is true. I left because i felt guilt for not living the word of wisdom. Well satan had me all turned around but PRIDE kept me . Heavenly Father knows my heart and I came back. Iam 64yr.
Wow. Thanks for sharing.
It's so worth coming back for...❤
Came back after 36 years!? Wow! I’m proud of you, and I know that your creator is too. Thank you for sharing.
I am sorry that you went through that. I hope you know Heavenly Father and Jesus love you!
You must not have read everything I wrote. I dont mean to sound rude. But of all things Iam sure of is My Heavenly Father absolutly loves me.
They can leave the church, but they can’t leave it alone.
Mormonism is a cult. Why would she or other exmos not want to warn others?
Exactly!
As a Christian exmo it feels like you can't leave it alone because many of us have people we still love that are in, we want to talk about what we've found and then are told that we are reading anti Mormon materials when most the stuff that I found that made me leave were on church owned websites.
DEFEND THE FAITH.
DO NOT LET THEM SLANDER THE CHURCH UNCHALLENGED
Be smart and don't claim to know things that you don't know.
@3DFLYLOW - Church Members will live in this wheat-and-tares situation until the Millennium. Some real tares even masquerade as wheat, including a few eager individuals who lecture the rest of us about the Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone.
@@3DFLYLOW that goes for the exmo community as well. Some claims have zero credibility and when challenged y’all get butthurt over them
@@therisingknighttruewarrior4551 Go ahead and make the claim. Show anything to be true.
But come on, the BOM has no ancient texts that we can verify, and the BOM history has been proven to be false. No jewish indians, no nephite cities, no ancient battles in North America. BUT what is true Joseph was arrested for treasure digging using a seer stone that he then used to create the BOM. And the BOA, turned about to be a complete fraud also. right?
As a 75 yr old grandfather it is refreshing to hear how, "Real Women Think". Thanks for having the faith and courage to share your thoughts publicly...🎉🎉🎉
My dad was catholic (and Episcopalian). He simply says “I used to be…” or “I was ….. when I was a kid…” nothing else nothing more.
I've been to mostly LDS funerals, I have been LDS my whole life. I've been to funerals of young and old and even babies. The Spirit is strong at LDS funerals. There is the LOVE OF GOD so strong and a feeling of hope and bittersweet joy. I love how the death of a person can bring long lost family together. I've connected with cousins I hadn't seen in 20 years and now have that extra support in my life. When I have gone to funerals or "celebrations of life" that are not specifically LDS, there is just something incredibly significant missing from them. All the black and the darkness and depressing expressions... I didn't leave them uplifted the way I have at LDS funerals.
Everyone of these women are physically beautiful but most of their beauty comes from within.
Her views on how the woman in the church, how they act and talk are so far removed from reality. Even my girls who are not active now never looked and acted like she portrays. And guess what they arent out bashing the church. Move on girl.
Imagine mocking someone who is grieving by exploiting their religious burial clothes, calling their tribute for their dead dad an Ad or depersonalizing them for smiling. That video deserves to be taken down for bullying.
Grieving doesn't require going viral on social media.
@@_Lachoneus grieving is different for everyone, we should not judge them on probably the hardest moment they have ever lived.
Nah, it should stay up for the world to see the race to the bottom that exmos revel in. By their fruits ye shall know them. Any objective observer sees that Ballerina Farms is living a great, accomplished life. Alyssa is a case study in the ugliness that befalls those whose entire life revolves around bitterness, sarcasm and hatred. Humanity pities her.
@CNStanza1 she can grieve in her own way, but she doesn't need to try her best to burn the place down on her way out. Was Hitler's holocaust justified because he was "grieving"?
@@_Lachoneus exactly. Poor behavior is not justified simply because someone got their feelings hurt.
I remember a story from the Ensign, about 20 years ago: it concerned a young LDS man who was working in Saudi Arabia. He developed a friendship with a family and started informally teaching them. The kids were way ahead of the parents, and when the Word of Wisdom came up, the kids were going right along with the teaching....it was going GREAT! And then the Dad decided to test this young man's depth of teaching and resolve. The family had a silver and crystal set of cups and a small pitcher which contained some special alcoholic drink, that was specific to one of their beliefs. The Dad poured a small amount and offered it to the young man... and the young man took it and drank.
The wonderful Spirit which had been there, evaporated immediately and the Dad ordered the young man out of the house, and to never come back.
All that goodwill was just... gone.
Who knows where the Church would be on the Arabian Peninsula, if the young man had stuck to his claims, and politely refused? One can only wonder.
I learned form a Jewish rabbi that tattooing and piercings are a sign of paganism and the worship of Baal. He pointed out that the further a society moves away from God, the more they begin to mark their bodies. We even see this behavior in The Book of Mormon, so it’s not at all surprising our church would advise against them. Many God worshiping religions do. Our society is highly involved in Baal worship. The vast majority of people have no idea that is what they are doing because we are so far removed from the historical context, but they are worshipping him nonetheless. The signs, practices, and markings are all here in our society. Biblically it was the prophets or priests of Baal that Elijah destroyed. I highly doubt anyone gets a tattoo or piercing and makes the connection, but they are still taking on the marking.
It is instructive that the X's focus on the relatively unimportant peripheral aspects of church rather than the basic principles and ordinances of the gospel. It isn't an easy sell to be against love and joy and redemption and progress.
Great show ladies. Thanks for having the courage to debunk these falsehoods. Still love Ticla. We share a beautiful name and history behind it.
Wickedness never was happiness.
23:56 Lol, I lost my virginity at 14, and became a dad at 16. Life happens; you don't need to drink about it while you think about it.
Love you Danny, stay based
The whole one piercing thing was Pres. Hinckley in general women's meeting. That said, having multiple piercings or tattoos aren't going to keep anyone from having a valid temple recommend, not when the "rule" was first said and not now.
Some of the things the prophets have warned against are really helpful. They also make us a peculiar people which is what we are suppose to be. I have found through my own health struggles that tattoos put heavy metals into our bodies which can affect our brains and caffeine is crazy corrosive on our nerves and adrenal glands, I’m so glad I stayed away from most this stuff throughout my life thanks to prophets because things could be much worse for me now. I don’t care what people do in general, just saying this is how this has worked out for me. The earrings though…
There is zero chat AI spit out those “more exmo” images. I spend countless hours creating images with AI and that is just not how it works. It is obvious to me that she very specifically told the program just what to add to the images. Completely misleading.
Exactly.
In one of the comments I read: We need each other! Thank you sisters for this podcast and for Ward Radio! Love your comments🌷
I used the "don't recommend channel" feature on CZcams to avoid this woman, and basically all exmos, because the lies are just that infuriating. And I just don't have a good outlet for that fury, so better to not let it in in the first place.
I loved this. Thanks guys. I love how you stand up and defend the truth and restored gospel culture. I love how articulate, intelligent, passionate, and may I say darn beautiful you all are ! 😉
I saw the thumbnails on the video that Greenfell person and no way was I’m not watching IT! I think it’s about time we take up for ourselves!!
I love the way y’all address these things.
The clip with the alcohol made me really sad. I lost my virginity at 19 to my boyfriend I’d been with for 5 years at the time. It really upset my family and it caused a lot of tension, but my parents through their anger still loved me.
That boy is now my husband and we are sealed. Mistakes are not the end.
Wow, thanks for sharing.
That's really so true. Mistakes are not the end. And to think that they were the end would be denying the power of the atonement.
I love that you and your husband were able to get sealed. I relate to your story in so many ways. My husband and I started dating when I was 14, and we got married a few months after I turned 18. We were inactive for the first couple of years of marriage and struggled in a lot of ways. But despite our journey being super crazy and difficult at times, we were finally able to be sealed together almost 2 years ago. We are living proof that mistakes are never the end. :')
Your story reminds me of Bryce Dunford's temple symbols video about Cherubim and the flaming sword. It is so good!! He reminds everyone that God gave us this life as a probationary period where we can make mistakes and learn from them and grow. He said that Satan desired to take that probationary period away from us, but God stopped him. So now, he tries to get us to remove our own probationary period! I highly recommend that video if you haven't seen it.
Thank you for debunking the bullying we have to put up with from some exmormons a lot of their podcast followers think they tell all the truth about the church and they dont most exagerate against the truth and tell lies
It’s shocking. They try to claim the church is a cult but in reality they have a cult like mindset when it comes to not being a part of the Church!
My wife converted in her 20s after a catholic upbringing. I ask her if she was angry at her family for raising her catholic or was mad at the catholic church. Of course her answer is no, it all helped to bring her along the path. My sister who is a bitter anti-mormon will make little barbs about the church to everyone about the church but not to my wife.
But aren’t there ex-Catholics that also make barbs at the Catholic Church? I think it depends on the person
I'm so glad I was taught to guard my virginity and gift it to my husband on our wedding night. I'm sorry she lost hers at 17 like many others. There's hope in repentance because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ but people have to come voluntarily. He'll never force us.
Well good for you. You managed to conquer modesty and pride but missed compassion and caring. That young girl didn’t need your judgment (why you’re so much greater). A compassionate soul would have thought of how their comments might “shame” others.
@@sama.scraps She does deserve compassion but where is Alyssa's compassion for people who wish to practice our beliefs without having them ridiculed for likes and attention?
@@GwPoKoThat young girl wasn’t Alyssa. There were so many other “humble” ways to word this previous comment. This better than attitude pervades through many raised LDS and is hurtful to converts and those looking at being baptized. How fortunate this woman was that she had the gospel to guide her through her youth so she could withstand sexual pressures and temptation. There was no gratitude for her blessings,merely recognition of her accomplishments. If we truly believe in repentance, then one can become “whole” or virtuous again. I know too many youth who have been taught that they cannot be restored or fully forgiven. They are repaired with structural damage. This comes from the mistaken attitude that being a virgin is a gift to your spouse to be. So wrong! Virtue is a blessing for one’s self. It belongs to you through Christ. It protects women from the pain that immoral living brings. And it protects marriages from the consequences of immorality. And it can be restored through repentance and righteousness. Women are not objects in which men gain gifts from. Too many women have been put in places where choice was not optional.
Thank you Brittany for your thoughts in this episode…glad to see the fire come out
This is an excellent rebuke of all the psychological trips people take to escape responsibility.
21:30 I like what Elder Andersen said about guilt:
"Guilt has an important role as it awakens us to changes we need to make, but there are limits to how far guilt will help us. Guilt is like a battery in a gasoline-powered car. It can light up the car, start the engine, and power the headlights, but it will not provide the fuel for the long journey ahead. The battery, by itself, is not sufficient. And neither is guilt."
Guidelines give me liberty in eternity 💞
Great job, ladies! I loved all of your input. Brittany, I especially loved how you brought up that we get ridiculed for abstaining from alcohol and yet, a alcoholic who finally gets sober is hailed as a hero. I feel like it is that way about most everything related to the church. I watch a channel of an orthodox Jewish woman. She is lovely! In her church, they can't show their collar bones, or their hair, or their legs. They even swim in long bathing dresses. All the people watching comment how lovely her culture is and her values are. (Rightly so) But, if this were a latter-day saint lady talking about the rules around modesty in HER culture and church, there would be relentless mocking in the comments.
As someone who drank and had a family member who self-medicated with alcohol- it’s not cool. Using a toxin to deal with your emotions is so incredibly dangerous, there are no benefits to alcohol and they destroy people. They didn’t miss out on anything other than puking and feeling horrible the next day
It's really sad, she's attacked the temple and broken her covenants. I wonder about her family.
Families are forever, thankfully
@@harambeboyfamilies are forever if you choose them by choosing God and keeping your covenants. That is the promise. Because it’s not God separating people, it’s people’s choices.
I don't think it's the least bit petty, Megan... I see it as a defense against slander and also a reminder that most of us don't talk/think/feel that way. When people see these exmo/promo videos, they might get the impression that that's all true. You guys are offering the opposite voice (and speaking with humor to those of us in the faith who enjoy your input and your collective strength).
The Church has many rules, guidelines, and expectations but not all of them are given the same weight. Mrs Grenfell knows this but does not care. She knows that nobody in the church has ever has received church discipline for having too many piercings or getting a tattoo. In my opinion, having a tattoo is punishment enough. A person spent a lot of money getting something on their body that they have live with for the rest of their life. Sure it might look good in the moment but as they age, the tattoo starts looking worse and worse and they may get bored of the dumb design that is on their body.
When talking about shame and guilt in the church, one of the best ways I ever had it taught was by my high school seminary teacher. He said, "Guilt is a Gift, but Shame is a Snake."
Alot of times, people confuse the two or see them as interchangeable. Guilt is the knowledge that you've done something wrong and want to do better. Guilt is the spark that allows Christ to make our weaknesses strong. Shame on the other hand, is the judgement we receive from others or from a precieved culture when we do something different from what others see as right. This kind of emotion is only negative and seeks to tear things down. Guilt motivates while Shame destroys.
I really wish more people in the gospel and even in Christianity understood this difference. It completely changed my perspective and helped me understand my divine potential and the way Christ truly seeks to save us in every possible way.
21:50
It's only pretty if you make personal attacks. Debunking false ideas is perfectly acceptable.
Thank you for these videos ladies. You are amazing and I'm so grateful for your time.
It’s sad but the “LIGHT” for Alyssa Grendel is dimming. When you actively seek to destroy truth, you destroy the goodness in your soul. After debunking her, she so needs our prayers.
We are taught true principles and then govern ourselves. We should not have to commanded in all things just use our heads and hearts. So great ful for guide lines carol
It's wonderful what you women are doing here. Thank you so much. The Lord smiles down upon you!
Thank you ladies this one was sooo good. Every single one of you has something so pertinent to contribute. This is so needed in our time and I applaud you for standing up.
Thank heavens honorable people are finally debunking these clowns. Turning the other cheek has limits. At some point we need to stand up and defend what is true and debunk the lies and slander.
Thanks for this guys! Never be ashamed of defending the faith against petty lies and malicious insults. God is worth standing up for!
It's good to see sisters not tolerating the mistruths of a person who couldn't repent and is now a paid puppet for ex-members continued justification of their own weaknesses. How amazing people who leave the church do not do so because they don't believe the teachings, they do it because they realize they can't follow the commandments of God. They do not go to another church but stop believing in God. They sell their souls. Blessings to you sisters who are examples of everything our Heavenly parents hope for all of us to be. You are heaven on earth.
" Weak people ridicule others attempting to have self control." That is perfect, profound, and spot on!
Nice job ladies! Very well said. Now to get the truth out louder than the mockers!
Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!
I highly appreciate the debunking. I've always been the one who stands up for those who were too scared to stand up for themselves. And now i find myself as one of those people too scared to speak up. Debunking claims is like someone standing up for me while I'm in my low spot and can't find my feet. So, thank you for standing up for us. God bless ❤️🔥
I don't think this woman Alyssa doesn't understand some of the very basic doctrine, because when I listened and viewed 3 of her videos, I can gather that she went on a mission, but didn't keep on reading.
I think that debunking could be rewritten as being a witness for the truth and for Christ. One does not have to attack her, but one present truth as a disciple of Christ. When one tactfully and peacefully corrects another’s misinformation… the spirit has a chance to confirm truth.
I really do not know her. But she appeared on my feed and she was showing the Temple garment, the Temple clothing and her homemade veil and explaining to an audience maybe not prepared with the spirit. It hurt my heart. It seemed like mockery. The comments were every bit as demeaning and I don’t know how we as Church and people combat that. We don’t want to be contentious (Satan’s plan) and yet videos like these lead others away from the Lord or off the path.😢
Let’s go ladies!! Truth be told!
Thanks, Ladies, for standing up for your faith and beliefs. Your perspective is powerful.
With tagging the flowers: my dad has a business and his coworkers have become close family friends. So tagging the company would be like tagging the friends who made one final bouquet for the person they love and worked for. We tag our friends when they show up in our feed, and often people will tag a relevant business even if they're not affiliated with it.
Wow,Tikla! Your perspective on the Word of Wisdom... Such an insightful take. I'd never considered that, but as someone who was exposed to pornography at the age of seven, and thus had to deal with lifelong addiction, it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that! The Women of Ward Radio are great!
Great video - nice to see the inside of a relief society! Past padded chairs, I didn’t know what else there was!
You surely gave us heaven with this one 🥲
I can’t begin to explain how refreshing this episode is!!!!! you ALL have articulated perfectly the very thoughts and feelings I have about all of this madness that is out there about the church.🤦♀️🙄
Thank you thank you thank you!
P.S. Brittany, the “was it herbal tea” line hahaha
You are hilarious I love you 🤍🤍
Hi Starr!
Love this group of women. Way to go ward radio
There are definitely many church families that function on fear of what everyone else will think of them. They teach their children to function on fear and to keep the commandments in fear of what what church people will say about them if they don't. This is not what the church teaches but are the traditions of the fathers passed down.
Love these ladies. Way to go gals!
Some celebrities don’t drink for the nature of health.
Mike drop to Rachel, this bird is exploiting ballerina farms pain and lost,
Love what you (“ex-Catholic”) said about alcohol.
I have seen gambling damage people's lives. I know someone who went and blew her whole rent money for the whole month at the casino.
More of these gals, less of unhinged kwaku, thanks
Kwaku will remember this
I'm glad you Sisters are brave and defending the truth!
Well done, My Sisters! 👏👏👏
Keep standing up for the truth. Let's stop all these liars
Thank you, you lovely sisters! 🤍
That girl was getting on my last nerve!!
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Thank you Megan (and all of you wonderful ladies) for publicly sharing your life journeys and experiences. I was born in Salt Lake City into a family filled with early church member ancestors. The culture I grew up in was spiritually strong but often showed a narrow understanding of people outside of our daily experiences. I have seen (and experienced) how Church culture can sometimes struggle with being inclusive. (Which is really sad because that is what the gospel of Jesus Christ is all about!) It is SO important, especially now that the Church is more wordwide, to normalize, as you said, "all shapes and sizes" into our culture. This is one reason I love the Church because true disciples of Christ gravitate toward a willingness to learn about the good in others, and learn from the good in others, no matter what their stories are. Pointing out the lies and negative influences online by debunking is important, but your willingness to sit in that chair and publicly tell your story and you testimony, and share the happiness that has come along with your life decisions is much needed and very powerful! Also, (I think it was Tikla) your story about the Bishop saying, "That's it! We're all going to the tatoo parlor!" made me so happy! We need to have that kind of love for each other. My life experiences have made me want to be an activist for inclusivity in Church culture and you Women of Ward Radio are my role models! ❤
You ladies are a power house! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks ladies. Actual wisdom is so hard to find on the internet.
40:33 Guess what we discussed in Relief Society this week? Some of it was verses from Alma 5. 30-31 says “is there one among you that doth make a MOCK of his brother, or that heapeth upon him persecutions?
Wo unto such an one, for he is not prepared, and the time is at hand that he must repent or he [she in this case] cannot be saved!”
Go give them Heaven 😂. I love you all. Such wise and kind women. Love it that we are seeing push back against the lies and disrespect of our faith. Keep up the good work. ❤
You guys are so articulate and I always get so excited when I see a new Women of Ward Radio!!
Her mockery of good people are typical ex mo behavior
So well articulated- thank you for this episode. You all portray so much light and intelligence, the contrast is quite stark to me!
This was an awesome episode! Is there a way to make this save-able?
Great video! You are awsome!
"Church members will live [with]...individuals who lecture the rest of us about Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves, of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone."
Elder Neal A. Maxwell
33:10 this is powerful
I was on a holiday in Samoa with some friends. We all got sick. I had a vision a thin Samoan woman who had a similar spiritual feeling as christ. I got healed. I was the only one that did, and it was instant. Im all for good experiences. But sadly, more people outside the church believe than inside. I normally dont mention spiritual experiences with active members because of thier attitudes.
Make a short starting at 25:24.
I loved your guy’s input! I think Alyssa is allowed to share content that helps her express her self-identity thinking even if our religion disagrees with it. That is her right, but when it comes to mocking we also have a right to defend ourselves. Respecting other people’s beliefs is so important for humanity’s sack. Everyone has the right to find clarity for their own lives.
I think the problem with Alyssa is that she is openly mocking things that members will consider sacred. You don’t really see that with other religions like Muslims, Sikhs, or even Catholics. And now that she can monetize on it she is spreading falsehoods and misinformation because the more “shocking” she can be the more views she gets. It honestly feels like she sold her soul
I would go a bit farther than that. She is bullying and "other-izing" an entire group of people (not so dissimilar to Nazi, anti-Jewish propaganda) for personal gain. With so many worthwhile causes in the world she could pursue (poverty, slavery, and oppression, for instance), this is the platform she has chosen- to contribute to, rather than lessen, human suffering.