Pragmatism, Politics and Power with Dr Yasir Qadhi
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- From its first moments, Islam was linked to a state-building process, and the shari’ah explicitly addresses rules that can only be discharged by a government, such as the rules of hudud or apostasy. Imam Ghazali even linked the collection of zakat and the marriage contract contingent on having an Islamic government. For the long duration of Islamic history, Muslims in most Muslim lands have lived under Islamic caliphates and empires. However, how much of this is less to do with religion and more with the circumstances early Muslims found themselves in? Is Islam wedded to its ‘founding moment’ -politics fused with a spiritual foundation?
In this episode, we comprehensively examine Islam and politics with Dr Yasir Qadhi. We explore Muslim engagement in politics in the West, its pitfalls, and the vexed issue of politicians that embrace and celebrate socially liberal positions. We also consider the issue of reviving the caliphate, its obligation and its priority.
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The Thinking Muslim Podcast Episode 93
0:00-0:58 Introduction
0:58-9:00 Perspectives on Muslim politics
9:00-10:44 Seeking political scientists' advice on Muslim political participation
10:44-17:34 Is Islam political?
17:34-21:20 Five Spheres of Influence and Change
21:20-26:19 Five Spheres as an Excuse for Political Quietism
26:19-38:08 Muslim political engagement at the local level
38:08-52:56 What are the limits of political engagement?
52:56-59:10 Young Muslims and their adoption of Islam's unacceptable practices
59:10-1:04:07 Is it obligatory for Muslims to establish a Caliphate?
1:04:07-1:10:13 Reflections on what encompasses Fardh Kifāya
1:10:13-1:18:37 Was Prophet Muhammad the head of the government?
1:18:37-1:22:34 On the lack of criticism and pushback from Islamic scholars against politicians
1:22:34-1:35:17 Did your study at the Western Academy soften your Orthodoxy?
1:35:17-1:35:30 Conclusion
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As a non Muslim, I really enjoy the conversations on this channel. Discovered your channel via Blogging Theology..... Loved the episode with Paul taking us thru the top 10 books' recommendations. Added them to my Goodreads account to buy them. Thank you for bringing us grt thought provoking conversations via this channel.
Many thanks, glad you find the channel useful
Then you are most definitely familiar with Abdal Hakim Murad?
(My fav person btw, just saying lol)
But 'tis truly admirable that you are open-minded enough to consider viewpoints that may be different to yours. Thank you for commenting and reminding us that people such as you exist. I have been noticing it more and more lately.
Peace be with you. ♥
This is the beginning of your Journey to choose the last Religion, the final Revelation hopefully, but do not be hasty, take your time, keep researching , keep studing and you will end up balanced.
Even if I may or may not agree with some of the positions sheikh YQ holds, I get a lot of benefits from his seerah series, khutbar and I especially look forward to his regular khatiras. Very beneficial. May Allah preserve you guys amin
And this is a perfectly reasonable position to have.
I find sheikh Yasir Qadi very sincere and authentic. The keyboard warriors who always find fault with him for not following their opinions need to understand Islam is not their fathers’ private business.
One of the best discussions, I’m so glad Dr. Yasir Qadhi is so honest.
He is improving the level of discourse of the community.
Jazakallah khairan for this lovely discussion.
Great to see your channel growing MashaAllah, no matter who the guest is the interviews are consistently good.
Thank you - we believe it’s important to have a range of guests that allow us to move beyond out echo chambers.
Wish to see many more such excellent discussions in the future. Thanks a lot. Take care and stay safe both of you Brothers. Jazakallah Khair. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Watching from Kyrgyzstan. Just recently discovered this channel. Thanks to everyone involved.
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
Ameen
SubhanAllah! Beautiful discussion. Shaikh YQ is someone who is hard to ignore. Really respect him for his frank talks. Thanks Thinking Muslim for bringing him on and listening to his side of events as well.
Cannot wait to go on my next walk and listen to this! 😊
Same!
Lets face it. No one faces the challenges of our times as an ummah like yasir Qadhi, hence the criticism which is healthy if done with adab, unfortunately most times, his critics do not know any better. For a guy that combines eastern and western traditions like he does, I respect, Love and take him for a school and encyclopedia.
Shaykh Yasir Qadhi!
Looking foreward to this one insha'Allah. You guys have stepped your game on CZcams Mashaa Allah. I'm a long term listene.r
Jzk - may Allah accept all our work.
I agree Yasir Qadhi. If you didn't live through the Post 911 West you wouldn't understand the importance of engaging with local politics, albeit extremely cautiously.
Salaam! JazakAllah Khair for bringing on Sh Yasir Qadhi. Fair critique is one thing, but unfortunately he gets bashed unjustly from both ends of the spectrum. Gets labeled radical by the West, on the one hand, and too soft by some of our brothers. When you actually listen to him, you know what he believes. What I see happening to him is bullying at best and slander at worst. MashaAllah I personally derived so many benefits from his lectures - developed a deeper love of the Prophet SAW from watching his seerah lectures, as a sister gained insight into and more respect for our brothers and the pressures they face, made firm in my commitment to hijab by drawing closer to Allah SWT knowing its Him alone who I’m trying to please/obey. These are practical benefits of his dawah in my life. May Allah SWT reward him and keep him safe and forgive him for his shortcomings. Ameen.
Jzk for a great podcast! Please also turn on captions if possible.
This podcast channel is on fire, keep doing the best interview you can get, indeed it make us muslim think,
Please introduce yourself. I don't even know your name but I do watch and like your podcasts.
Presenter is Muhammad Jalal - you can find him on twitter @jalalayn
جزاک اللہ خیرا
One of the lessons for us (apart from all these important topics) is to see how Dr. YQ avoided to name and shame people/politicians. This is one of the essential prophetic traditions that Mohamad PBUH used to do when he wanted to warn people, is that he would say: “what is wrong with people who do this and that..?”.. and criticized the action not the essence of the people doing wrong.. JZK for this channel & this discussion..
May allah bless this channel, and the two gentlemen in this video
I agree with Sheikh Qadhi. I am of the same generation as him, lived through 9-11, and all of the fitna that happened in its aftermath and he’s right about the cyclical nature of the reaction of of youth. Let’s not become hardline nor so apolitical that we become “Islamic Amish”.
Jazkallahu Khairan for a civil interview and some great metacommentaries.
A superb analysis Sirs. Thanks a million to both of you for the wonderful presentation. I always watch both of your programs. They are very knowledgeable and helpful.
What s fantastic conversation, Masha Allah!!
I often used to hear Dr. Yasir Qadhi but when it comes to the ideological discussions, specifically the bigger challenges of establishing Allah’s Deen on His earth politically & ideologically, he always diplomatic & elusive. However, it is no doubt that he is a person of vast knowledge on a variety of issues.
This was a great conversation. The critics of YQ fail to understand that people grow in life. Many look at Malcom X as a wise person who grew in understanding of race and religion and applaud him for doing so. Why can’t the same be applied to Sh. Yasir?
The prophet (saw) cautioned us to practice or find the middle path and this what I see Sh. Yasir calling the ummah to. May Allah bless and guide him. Ameen!
1hr 2mins in - couldnt agree more, worth saying - well done YQ and Jal
I respect Yassir, he’s evolved over times and I didn’t understand him at times but that’s the brother and he’s very unique and he’s a great mind, Allah use him for the good of this ummah
Excellent session. Very thought provoking
As a Shia I have tremendous respect for Mr Qadhi, very correct approach. Inshallah can attend the Plano Mosque events once I move to Texas
it's really an amazing and interesting discussion, BarekeAllahu feekum both
Awesome session. Jzk to you both.
Excellent interview, Mashallah
Jzk, I really enjoyed this conversation alhamdulilah!
I wish Dr. Yasir focused less on pragmatic solutions and more on prophetic solutions. If feel like his entire case can be summarized as “yeah, it’s complicated and there are multiple opinions. Focus on being good but sometimes you need to do something bad”… Like what’s his methodology???
Very prophetic comment by you.
What exactly have you done? What solutions have you given?
What real worldly change have you caused?
Which khilafa did you start? Or are going to start?
Words are cheap, it would do you well to remember that.
He cites seerah incidents a lot. Anyway he’ll never be prophetic enough for great CZcams muftis and twitter maulanas.
@@snakejuce YQ is a leading western scholar of Islam. It’s disheartening that he promotes such a vague “pragmatic” approach to engaging with the western institutions that feels more defeatist than anything. The difference between me and YQ is that YQ is a member of the Fiqh council of North America and I am not. YQ owes it anybody who might follow his fatwa’s to put forth a methodology that has roots in the prophetic example to when it comes to navigated the complicated and nuanced challenges we face as 21st century western Muslims.
Such an interesting podcast, thank you !
Jazakum Allah khayran
He mentioned that when he raises funds for people in Palestine, people criticize him saying that without a khilafah all this is pointless. Then he said that having a khilafah won't remove poverty. I don't think that his efforts to help Muslims in Palestine should be discouraged but his last point forms a connection I disagree with. Palestine etc are not cases of typical poverty but a result of political oppression, while raising funds to help them in the short run the long solution is to remove the political weakness that has led to this oppression. The need for a khilafah is their solution to this, even if they are wrong about raising funds to help them in the short run
It is important to be less idealistic about the khilafah. It is not a utopian state that will solve all the problems of Muslims. It is a state that implements shariah and we hope it will do a better job at wealth creation - but the results may take generations to be realised. It is wrong to address EVERY problem with the answer that khilafah will solve it - this is a very marxian analysis.
Assalam Alaykum
The question is Islam political is not answered (in my view). The answer went to address our obligations and our priorities. Of course, Allah will not ask anyone beyond their capabilities. لا يكلف الله نفسا إلا وسعها. But the question remains: Is Islam political? I personally, would say that before answering the question we need to realize that Islam is built upon the belief in Allah and by definition, it is spiritual. At the same time, Islam addresses different aspects of human life and does not address spiritual needs only. By definition, this makes Islam political too. Thus, may be the best way to describe Islam is that it is spiritual and political. It is not either this or that. This does not mean to reject prioritization which is needed. This is my humble view and open for discussion.
Regarding Takfir: I would agree with Shaikh Yasir. This is not easy issue at all
Jazakallah khair Ustadh, thank you for your thoughtful comment
Great insights❤
Thank you for raising level of discourse
Well said.
Now you are showing you are pious person may Allah swt give you Hidaya Ameen
Are we all going to ignore the fact that 'TheThinkingMuslim' looks so much like Malcolm X. Especially at 1:31:46
Why discuss a khilafa when our ummah needs guidance and compassion. The call of the prophets was to remind first. I think softening the hearts and reminding each other of our duties before Allah is the highest cause. Allah will bring victory to a changed ummah. Look where the calls for khilafa got us with the ruthless ISIL and an unprepared youth who would fall for anything, ready to carry out immense suffering on innocent people.
Another excellent episode! mA! Genuinely good for the ummah, insightful, and with a focus on developing the communities and conversations we have as a community.
Why is sir YQ not pondering upon support of Islamic sharia in Islamic land ?
Or at least help in development of that land which will not involve him in politics directly keeping him out of Judicial problems.
Because he is reformist. West is not attacking Muslims only by weapons. Sometimes use own people against the Islam . There are many agents among ummah and trying to reform Islam
@@HMD1986-you loved him when he was slandering sheikh Abdul wahab
Beautiful
Aslaamualikum, Allah swt is in the details, not the devil!!! Asthagfirullah!! Good talk , it really benefits me! JAK
Also, this is exactly what the corporate machine loves... we r all muslims, prophet Muhammad pbuh said the Ummah is like one body if any part hurts, the whole body feels the pain!!
I understand your meaning, but it’s only a figure of speech. The meaning is ‘used for saying that something may seem simple, but in fact the details are complicated and likely to cause problems.’
The verse "Allah does not burden a soul more than what it can handle", produces very subjective responses. The prophet constantly challenged the status quo until he was jailed, tortured, driven our of his home, and fought against. So this message from Dr. YQ can come off as very very weak and defeated. Muslim's in the west chase their American dream and indulge in the dunyah so much, and when challenged they say "Allah does not burden a soul more than what it can handle". Well, we also know that the prophet (saw) when asked about the condition of the believers in later times, and why even though their numbers are many, they're weak. He (saw) said: “Nations are about to unite (and call) each other to set upon you, just as diners are invited to a plate of food.” It was said: “Will it be because of our lack of numbers that day (i.e. will be be small in number)?” He صلى الله عليه وسلم said: “Rather, you will be many on that day, but you will be like scum foam (that floats) on the river. Allah will remove the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies and put Wahn into your hearts.” It was said: “O Messenger of Allah, what is Wahn?” Heصلى الله عليه وسلم said: “Love for the dunya and hatred for death.”.
1. "...maybe you have a phd in political science, and maybe you have a think tank...but your expertise and your knowledge and your talents make it a higher fard kifaya than me...."
Sheikh YQ being a scholar of Islam is not enough of a qualification to start a movement for khilafa revival? Who else will guide the ummah to revive the khilafa besides our ulema? No one can do it alone but why not join forces with various Muslims qualified and competent in the necessary skills/fields to start the movement? Allah is the giver of victory but surely as a scholar and learned person, sheikh YQ has some competence towards this mission???
2. " ...I don't think it is of the goals of the shari'a , to constantly bring up this topic of khilafa...when the bulk of the ummah is struggling to live their life as Muslims..."
Interesting statment. Perhaps the bulk of the ummah is struggling to live their life as Muslims precisely because of the absence of a khilafa???
Our ummah is under fire from secularism, foreign invasions, despotic rulers etc precisely because we have abandoned the khilafa in favor of "democracy" and nation states and ethnic divisions.
Caliphate would amplify all the problems of the Muslim world. How would constant wars of expansion against Non Muslims help with economic and social development? lol
Where did he bring this idea of levels in farad (kifayah)? He's introducing something out of his own mind.
Mashallah ❤
Just a comment. Pre 9/11, the uk did have a muslim labour MP elected in the 97 labour landslide, called Mohammed Sarwar
I don't agree with the notion of reconciliation with secularism because we are weak. I find that a self-defeating self-fulfilling prophecy of defeat amd humiliation. I think I can fiercely challenge this concept raised in this episode.
Btw, the Prophet was alone when the Message was revealed.
Living under khilafa is not going to be perfect, there will be challenges, but that is beside the point. The reason we need have khilafa is because that is exactly what the prophet did, right?.
Dear respected Brother, Bidah and Shirk are not a grey area. Dear Brother Yasir, Many respected scholars have advised you privately. I am sure you know this yet you have not rectified this grave error in your lectures.
Please clear things up for the ummah try to make a video to rectify this flaw and move higher up inshAllah, everybody makes mistakes brother, the war of the nafs, the Ego always wants to be King, but the Bigger man is the one who can fight his ego and own up to his mistakes and errors and rectify them inshAllah
And just to add, Islam has the answer and solution to every problem, the pen has been lifted and the ink has dried as you know. We go back to Quran and Sunnah, everything is explained. Yet there are some who claim they have a better understanding than the previous scholars of history subhanAllah
We live in the West and this Western lifestyle rubs off on us, we feel important, affluent, more educated, more eloquent yet the trusted scholars especially in the holy land of MADINAH and Makkah are so humble, so humble that it brings tears to the eyes subhanAllah and they know everything about what is going on in the West and the East. You don’t need to live in the West to know about the people or Lut AS, it is documented, solutions are already in our Deen. We need to implement the Deen and making Hijra is becoming like the only option. Maybe this will help you, me or anyone who wants to live this life to please ALLAH the Most Exalted and not the people or the Nafs.
Making duas for you Brother May ALLAH Guide you back to the Deen that you were so good at when you came out of MADINAH, the sacred land in which you gained soo much knowledge by the will of ALLAH Azawajal
Host is so intelligent and the show is extraordinary. The Muslim world is in need of information and knowledge such as this.
But I do have to mention, only because it is really starting to put me off the whole channel, the host makes it so boring, why is he just dragging his question out soooo much and not getting to the point.
He asks the same exact question, 2-3 different ways in the same exact sentence/question/breath of air but just using different words.
We understood it bro, just get to the point and finish your sentence so we can listen to the responses.
سلام عليكم..
Yes ❣️..
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1:02:00 This is so correct
in the matters of fiqh, sometimes the fatwas scholars give to themselves are vastly different from the fatwas they give to the masses
32:10 Phenomenal, so many people do not exercise their mental faculties as this part displays. You can tell how much he has thought about this, and also factored in the criticism he receives from others. It's likely his critics will be beneficiaries of the Dr's efforts
1:16:06 does anyone know what the sheikh is referring to here?
54:27 great point
The question I have for those advocating so ferociously for the Khilafa, though I would love to enjoy such a point in history, how did the khilafa save the 3 slain Kalifs. Khilafa is definitely ideal yet the idea that it is the silver bullet to solve all our problems side steps a number of promises Allah has made,
Mainly that life is a test, the old for the young, the women for the men, the believers for the non believers etc. Khilafa cannot solve all our tests or protect us from them though it may solve some.
Next Allah promises that there is this place called Jahennum for all of the unsettled scores, khilafa or not. Allah said all good is from Him and all the difficulties are from our own selves... We contribute to our situation, we often spit in the wells we drink from and expect a khailfa to come and sanitize what we ourselves sully...
Our tests are a means by which Allah purifies us from sins, drags us into jannah thereby and makes a means for other outcomes to manifest themselves that wouldn't had such a trial not befallen us.
We have to be ready to say, "it is Allah who suffices us", no khalif will suffice us should Allah not grant it permission thus the solution to every situation is Allah alone. A khalifa is merely a sabab, but rain though it can flood is also a means by which Allah feeds us, it is the same sabab, it was Allah who decided what the outcome would be. No khalifa can save us... The khalifa too is insufficient to even save himeslf...
A khalifa will not ensure success, Allah alone gives success, we have to start relying on that and fixing ourselves up. How can our duaas be answered if we are not praying, our food is not halal, and our money is not halal... How much good are we choosing to bestow upon ourselves if we drink from the well of Allah's displeasure?
How much would our communities change if our money was not spent on the haram? There are plenty of manufacturers who enjoy our expenditures in their direction, they would be happy to take our money should we withhold it until the halal was available for purchase.... A khalifa cannot save us from ourselves... In fact a khalifa would likely be required to imprison many a muslim should He find the occasion. It may be Allah's divine kindness not to provide a khalifa during a time of so much active participation in haram...
Wonder if he would have the same stance of living a monastic lifestyle and ignoring the collective obligations given what’s happening right now. Both things need to be done in tandem, one is not a pre requisite for the other, anyone who says pick one or the other hasn’t understood the Deen no matter how much they’ve studied..
Salam
I would like to get some help regarding mental health. Any guidance?
What would be more effective: preaching people to fix their individual lives first OR built a system which will inherently try to encourage better lives for everyone living in the system.
Living in the west it may be okay to be apolitical and focus your religious priorities accordingly, however, in some of the muslim countries with broken and corrupt economic system people might move away from Islam due to the immense financial pressures due to broken system.
Qadhi claims not to be an expert or participant in politics, but is happy to make comments about it willy nilly throughout his discourse, both explicitly and implicitly.
The purist vs pragmatist spectrum he sketches out is a gross misunderstanding of the sharia rules, and a false dichotomy. It is suggesting they are utopian and idealistic such that living in the world requires their abandonment to some degree - ie God can not get it right! Correctly understood and applied, the sharia rules make good sense and solve problems. Unfortunately they were never designed to operate in kufr societies on a partial basis (the Prophet (saw) forbidding Muslims living with non-Muslims by their deens). The sharia rules not applying to illicit relationships like girlfriend/boyfriend or girlfriend/girlfriend!
The interviewer seemed to be a little too enamoured with Qadhi's fame, repeatedly praising and agreeing with him even when it was clear he didn't agree, failing to follow through on most of his problematic responses - the questions were also mind bogglingly long. Seemed he just lacked the necessary thinking or preparation!
You are making a sweeping and dismissive statements “willy nilly”, on what basis? What do you know? What have you achieved?
People like you need to keep your self righteousness to yourself. SMH. Who are you trying to convince with this arrogance?
Assalamu alaikum, O beloved Muslim brothers and sisters. I am thoroughly begging you, O those of you who comment against or for a support of a scholar who speaks about a certain, some or most of the Islamic paradigms of theology.
Sub'haanallaah, how really foolish do commentators on scholars behave or think of themselves?
I'm really sorry but for Allah's Sake, O beloved brothers and sisters, shut up your satanic comments in siding with scholars or standing against scholars.
And who are you, O commentator, to correct or wrong, in your dirty "self-appointed judgement" to a scholar who spent almost his entire life, studying the Religion while you weren't even born or maybe very weak or naive to study it?
To what level are you qualified to share your dirty comments for or against a scholar.
Please, understand why comments are here, on CZcams, for you, O beloved brothers and sisters.
Don't create Jahannam for your souls by foolishly commenting on scholars' opinions for or against them.
And who would ask you a very painful question about your dirty comments, on the Day of Qiyaamah, either for or against a scholar.
Please, O beloved brothers and sisters, I advise you to fear Allah and only that you pray for the scholars safety and Jannatul-fir'dawsul-a'laa. Perhaps Allah will grant you Jannatul-fir'dawsul-a'laa as well or your progeny could be as well blessed by Allah to be great scholars tomorrow in the future.
Please, O brothers and sisters, if you can't pray for scholars, then gag up your mouth. Perhaps you may be saved from the Fire of Jahannam.
قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: من كان يؤمن بالله واليوم الآخر فليقل خيرا أو ليصمت.
May Allah grant us all Jannatul-fir'dawsul-a'laa.
Love you all.
Salaam
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Yasir doing his eyebrows along with a haircut? 🤔
As Salam alaikum the Prophet said we fear death and love wealth
That Quran comments blunder exposed this Tony Blair student for all to see. That was one of his lowest points.It's a shame that people still give him any relevance .
interesting, I can see this approach/desire for balance. Ironically, the Madkhali/regime backers use a similar, even more pragmatic approach (in respect to the secularist/political type) to stifle any critique of regimes, they are even worse than those they denigrate by placing false justification to accept oppression by arguing that removing an active tyrant leads to a greater fitna based on an opinion of a man and not evidence. 2 opposite extremes neither having real validity
Also, it seems to me the guest promotes the concept that the ethical is separate from the practical (what ought to be and what is). This is a purely western concept and is contrary to the Islamic paradigm.
What's wrong with our brothers? I don't agree with YQ myself and find some arguments to be ridiculous, but you should be open to the thoughts of other people too!
There are a number of assertions variegating Dr. Qadhi's PPP discourse and while some are practical, other assertions are steeped in the subjectivity of "living in the West" and practicing an Islam on life support. I can accept a diversity of thought is a helpful cloak to permit a range of movements and obviously from the assumption that Islam can only be implemented based on the Quran and Sunnah this can be achieved.
In reality, this is false. And more poignantly, it is deception. The West shines secular discourses above all others as within the West Liberal Islam increasingly rises as a patriarch of the religion itself covering over orthodox teachings and liberalizing them. This problem extends into the global because all nation-states were recreated as imitations of the West and are policed by world networks of coercion which I won't name because they are self-evident within this neologism.
What this leaves us with is the question of the caliphate. Qadhi is no doubt encircled by liberal discourses of conformity, obedience, and a bygone era of secular and "illiterate Islam." As the torchbearers of Islam move to new generations and some of those grossly liberalized by Qadhi and the West, the caliphate ceases to permeate as this tool to check and induce liberal scholars and morphs into a new one to untwist and fall the programming of the old and save a people from hopeless corruption.
@@ponderingspirit No problem brother. Go ahead and idyllically try to make a life for yourself in the West and smile through all the regimes of anti-religiousness
@@Abdul_Moiz_bin_Muhammad_Y. nothing you can do about foreign regimes. Think about you and your family Ibadat first. That's what you'll be judged on.
@@ankhmorpok1497 There is nothing you can do by appealing to nothing can be done. Change is the law of life, and this law is always in the purview of God
Damm now I understand how much he fells for the Ummah...
I called him deviant years ago however now I understand why he is saying this.
REALITY
If a Muslim politician comes out and says "Allah is Gay". Does that make them Muslim still even though they didn't go through the process that would lead them to being "ex-communicated"? And in your eyes would they STILL represent the Muslim community? And based on who can we say a politician represents the Muslims or not? Who decides that and how?
Nobody forces you to live in Western countries, there are 52 Islamic states
1:18:37 I think it's worth investigating deeper in why that is the case? Why is it that in US, students of knowledge has to have this ambiguous response to negative impacts of politics to the community? Is general statements enough? If not public reminders why not private ones on promoting good and forbidding evil, or perhaps he or some of who are near such circles of influence did? Is the situation truly distinctly unprecedented or can we find learning from the quran, the sunna and the salaf? Are these responses proven or found in the Islamic history of governance?
Perhaps muslims put YQ high enough that we expect him to do so and it seems he personally is not comfortable or have a firm position yet. I see that I can still agree and understand his position but struggles to find rhe appropriate way to correct what is misguided.
Anyways, jazaakumullah khair for this discussion.
You are reformist. And promoting Islam according to the west standards
What about adaptation
Listen none of these people are Muslim
Great podcast as always. What yasir qadhi fails to understand is that muslims in the west are fed so many different philosophies that are contrary to islam. Ie atheism, liberalism, individualism, feminism and materialism. So its harder for muslim exposed to this confusiom to simply take practising islam seriously!
these isms are a part of life.
Does anyone know the islamist leader YQ is talking about?
What?
I think Rashid al Ghannoushi of Tunisia.
One should study a school before making judgments on their behalf. Dr. Qadhi has completely misconstrued the view of the Ash'ari and Maturidi Schools. In fact, even the Fiqh books are filled with chapters on Alfaaz al kufr. Even the Deobandi movement, who are normally Ash'ari/Maturidi Hanafi (but they actually study them) would not be fine with Dr. Qadhi's statements.
Be prepared to answer why you prolong your Khutba while Rasulullah did not and you observe Friday prayer in the time of zuhr. Have got a record that Rasulullah ever prayed Friday in contradiction to his first one? وقد أخرج البخاري ومسلم ، وغيرهما عن البراء؛ أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم كان أوّل ما نزل المدينة نزل على
أخواله من الأنصار وأنه صلى إلى بيت المقدس ستة عشر أو سبعة عشر شهرًا ، وكان يعجبه أن تكون قبلته قبل
البيت ، وأن أوّل صلاة صلاها العصر ، وصلى معه قوم ، فخرج رجل ممن كان صلى معه ، فمرّ على أهل المسجد
I know that our comments are watched / are under surveillance/observation. We have freedom!!! Really??
Sheik. YQ is totally wrong about khilafa. What did RAW after hijra to medinah? Nobody is talking about establishment of khilafa in west, but in a muslim land. This is basic.
There are Holes in the narrative
We just have to say if you support Fahesha, you commit great sin, but not necessarily you are Kafir or Moshrik or out of religion
YQ says Freedom of speech is the luxury we have instead from political point of view it is one of the flaws of Democratic/liberal system because of their own beliefs.
Apart from going into details of how information affects humans psychology simply take Khilafah system in which you will not be allowed to preach any system (Communism/Capitalism) not even religions to topple Khilafah.
It is more of a loop hole in Liberal and democratic rules that Muslims and other who oppose the system lives in.
That’s really a stretch -
@@TheThinkingMuslim now it's better
If you have done tauba may ALLAh swt accept who the heck are you in a position to give fatwa don ,t misguide youth take the responsibility to be held accountable in front of Allah swt on the day of judgement day
1:02:00 YQ misunderstood Khilafah supporters and said when i raise funds for syrian refugees they say it's not gonna work because khilafah wipes out Poverty.
The point khilafah ones are making is that the reason there is poverty is not because of reasonable problems of humanity like of less resources etc instead the syrians are poor because of war because of Big Political game because of Unjust political system.
Same within the Palestine.
Only State can fight State.
Without any Islamic state and Hundreds of Non Islamic state is a sign of political Death or vacuume that will be filled.
Both are choices we make
Come on brother, ppl come on his page and taunt him. When he is fund raising, what is there to misunderstand here?
Firstly If people genuinely want to talk about these points they can email him that is constructive.
And even if they are not taunting, such criticism is pointless, because neither YQ is getting to response nor are the ppl raising there concerns with proper in a constructive manner.
@@syedsaifuddin4759 I didn't said criticizing him is wrong or right it's another case and i don't think talking about is gonna work in comment section.
He misunderstood the reason khilafah supporters criticize him.
They criticize Fundraising as a solution for ending poverty.
They don't criticize him for just fund raising rather the idea that it's gonna end poverty or portraying as only and effective way.
These are two different things.
He might have said it mistaken ly or in a flow because even he has knowledge of politics to know what is right.
@@Truths_Unofficial Sadly if the criticism was made with hikma and thought thats one thing. Usually its not. It’s to scold people who dont agree with your view. He never claims that charity will solve the problems - but rather that it is an obligation of Muslims. To then talk about khilafah when someone is doing a good deed is like saying you should talk about khilafah when someone wants to pray or fast. It’s an unhelpful way to discuss khilafah.
@@TheThinkingMuslim if that's the case than i agree with the Sheikh ♥️ on this
@@Truths_Unofficial May Allah accept from us brother. Jzk
If the Mormon can do it, what about the Muslim?
Bro Jalal, I don't think it's fair that Dr. Qadhi lumped Hizb ut Tahrir among the takfiri and hateful bunch ...
That was absolutely disingenuous and disrespectful.
I don’t remember him doing that at all. Can you send me the time stamps where he does? (Jalal)
@@TheThinkingMuslim after 6:50 when he brings up groups/entities he doesn't respect and explicitly goes on to say the hardline Salafis, Madhkalis and "unwise Hizb ut Tahrir type".
That is about clear as it gets because of how he grouped the Hizb with hardline Salafis/Madhkalis. He seems to have all sorts of opinions on the Hizb and yet is not willing to engage with us respectfully neither honestly and this is definitely not the first instance he has done this.
You can see how glowingly and respectfully he spoke of Tableegh, Ikhwan and Jamaat e Islam as understandings of Islam he respects and then followed up by those he has a tough time respecting.
Well I am here to say his take on the Hizb is unequivocally wrong and outright slander. The Hizb as a party adopts a method for our objective and we stick to it while understanding that the method is a matter of ijtihad and thus, there's room for other ijtihad. So this point from Dr. Qadhi that we aren't willing tolerate other views needs unpacking/clarifying since he didn't mention what it is that he has seen members of the Hizb not tolerate. As a party Hizb has outreach to ulema/intellectuals/thought leaders of all sorts of background wherever we have presence and this is done to engage wider Ummah in the quest for revival.
And then later on after 59 minutes in, when you guys got into the actual discussion of Khilafah he brought up how he has a problem with callers of Khilafah who try to downplay or discredit Muslims providing immediate relief solutions to the Ummah. Again this is simply not true. May be he came across some who might have that take but to generalize it as being the norm was wrong and unfair.
May be you should have Dr. Abdul Wahid (UK HT chairman) on your podcast so he can really get into what the Hizb is all about for your audience. I feel like we at least deserve to have our voice heard if people are going to come on your podcast and have a go at us unjustly.
@@shehzebimam4991 @Shehzeb Imam Dear Brother I think you may be reading more into what he said. He prefaced your organisation with 'some unwise...'. This looks like an acknowledgement that 'some' of those within HT hold - as he goes on to say - rigid views, make the internal of the ummah the problem and are not tolerant of differences of opinion. Your initial message was that he bunches you with takfiris and a hateful bunch. But he doesn't. He is making a different point at the timestamp you talk of. later on when he talks about the 'violent types' he makes no mention of HT. I think his experiences with HT is what he is talking about and I wouldn't expect him to elaborate. Please reach out to him if you care to hear specific examples, I am sure he will respond to any reasonable request.
I suspect you will not agree with the above, but these are my thoughts on the subject. Happy to discuss with you offline if you want to continue the discussion. Jzk
@@TheThinkingMuslim It's the order in which he referenced HT, right after he brought up hardline salafis and madhkalis. And trust me we have tried reaching out to him but to no avail.
Anyway, I do think you should have an actual member of the Hizb on at some point so this general perception against the party and in general those involved in revival for Khilafah can be addressed. I sense a very shallow understanding from Dr. Qadhi on this especially when it's a fard and classical discourse on this is that it's literally the highest priority obligation. The fact Dr. Qadhi holds the view it's of lesser importance in comparison to other kifayat is actually very problematic.
Khair I do follow you on Twitter as well Insha Allah will reach out there if need be.
P.S. I generally enjoy your podcasts especially those with Dr. Yakoob have been my absolute favorites since I'm also a student of his. I'd love to see more of him in terms of discussing more refined understanding of our history and specifically the Osmanlis. Jazak Allah Khairan.
I have to disagree with the Yasir qadi here..
his responses shows me how much muslim preachers online need much more awareness and knowledge of contemporary epistemologies to talk about politics and sociology of modern times.
How is working to alleviate the causes of war refuges non-islamic, how is working towards a more just financial system in the world of modern predatory capitalism non-islamic?, how is striving for human rights and against human and sex trafficking non-islamic, how is working for peace and against violence and extremism of the imperial forces like US, EU , China and within the muslim world non-islamic?
Why can't muslim's take principled political stance on all of these matters, instead of behaving like the subordinated, colonized minds they become afraid of speaking truth to power, be it the US hegemony or the corruption of power one sees in the Emirate or Saudia.. this is where the true schizophrenia of Muslim world lies, just because these corrupt middle eastern dictators supported by the Capitalist imperial west have Muslim labels the so called televangelists don't have the courage to call them out in the name of Islamic principles of justice and human rights(which is God given). All of this as to be attempted without the ugliness of violence and domination, by real perseverance (Sabr) and democratic(Shura) means, that is what true knowledge of Allah has to be, to be beautiful in our means for justice, equality and peace.
So we have to look within ourselves and ask who do we actually fear Allah or to whom Allah has given temporary power in this world as a test. Those who are fully cognizant of this reality knows where true power resides.
We need to read brilliant and conscientious non-muslims who strives to see justice and peace in humanity as well, "truth" is not confined with heritage muslims, for some one looking for a brilliant and informed scholar please check Sheikh Kahled Abou el Fadl
czcams.com/video/4QxyGz8G6yc/video.html
and the work he is doing at the Usuli institute
www.usuli.org/
What a load of condescending drivel. If you want to follow modern neo liberal academic because he speaks to your desires good for you, go at it.
But I mean, you're arguing against phantoms, no one ever said campaigning against unjust wars etc is something Muslims shouldn't do. I'm guessing you and your neo colonial buddies have seen the problem of "schizophrenic muslims' and are the enlightened ones. But in your ignorance, you know little about all the good Muslims across both Europe and the Muslim world are doing in fighting evil and corruption. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean its not there. there's many many good muslim organisations and groups fighting for the cause of Islam (and true justice by extension) without compromising. The whole point is about those who comprimise their deen. The end goal is to recognise Allah and those who lose sight of that are fighting meaningless causes and lose in dunya and akhira.
A lot of straw man nonsense only to smuggle a europeanised academic looking to pass off his Liberal ethics as islamic. Justice and moral authority only exist with Allah and his guidance, and any attempt at speaking on justice, which doesn't have its basis on that, is not worth the time of Muslims.
There's a lot I could say about your comment but suffice to say, for all your condescending attitude towards Muslims its embarrassing that you think shura is democracy., you have to have a very strange definition of democracy to say Shura is that. I'm guessing you're also referring to Modern Human rights, which I might add have never been mentioned by Allah or his messenger. This is a new false revelation from ivory Tower white academics that modernist muslims bow to.
Ah!! Mr. HOLES IN THE NARRATIVE. He has done to expose Islam alone what other collectively couldn't do for ages.