Why does the Chevy EV tow TWICE as far as the Cybertruck?!
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- HUGE thanks to Chevy for letting me borrow this Chevy Silverado EV 4WT. This video is not sponsored. 95% of the driving on this towing test was done on the freeway at about 75mph.
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Its pretty crazy that the Silverado can be 'filled up' with about 25 dollars of electricity and go drive 450 miles. But how far can it drive with a full 11,000 pound trailer behind it? Today we find out!
How far can the Chevy Silverado EV tow 11,000lbs? - (New Champion) - Jak na to + styl
Zack has a bunker, a solar roof, a backyard farm, an electric humvee, and is now experimenting which truck can transport his humvee the furthest. If this isn’t him preparing for Zombies, I don’t see the point of it all.
who's Jack? His name is Zack.
@@DVSProductions Hey. I mistyped. Thanks mate!
He needs to speak to hoovies towing channel
Probably guns somewhere he doesn't tell us about
zack is planning definitely something 😂
80 mph, towing 11K lbs with A/C? People lets be reasonable here, this thing can tow.
But not for long like a Diesel or gas truck. Batteries are notoriously dangerous
It can tow but it won't work in a work of Hotshots or long distance hauling.. But let's say you're Telco Contractor and from time to time you need to pull a roll of fiber optic cable? this thing can do it with ease..
Yeah cause diesel trucks totally never catch fire or runaway catastrophically 🙄
@@Romanticwolf How many of those do you see in a year? 🤔 I've not seen one in a long time... (speaking of pickup trucks).
@@flexairz A report from AutoinsuranceEX said EVs exhibited 61 times fewer fires per 100,000 sales than ICE vehicles. “Tesla has reported that between 2012 and 2021 there was approximately one Tesla vehicle fire for every 210 million miles travelled.Apr 21, 2024
I was skeptical till I saw the bungee cord, now my faith is restored, tow on brother, tow on...
@@CAVALRY19Dhe was.
This range graphic is just hilarious, just look at the cybertruck drawing!
What drawing? That's a photo.
Improvement over the original.
I love how the Rivian is literally leaning over the cybertruck. And the cybertruck is quite literally a triangle!
Bruh.. LMFAO i didn't even notice!!!
LoL It's called minimalistic design😆
The most unbelievable part of these videos is that Zack just drives up to empty EA charging stations and they work
Yep. The times I've been let down by non-Tesla charging stations is insane. Nearly had a Signet Nissan CHAdeMO charger blow up on me. It was making all kinds of strange noises trying to charge my car and it finished with a very loud electrical pop, I'm guessing because the contactors opened under load. Thankfully it didn't damage my car, but it meant I was stuck sipping on a level 2 for the next hour and a half until I could make the next hop.
Battery Kwh sizes:
1)Silverado 205
2)Cyber Truck 123
3) Rivian 131
4) Ford Lightning131
So battery size is perhaps the largest difference.
Love the tow testing!
That does seem to be the case. Evs need some major changes for it to be good at towing. Battery size increase means increase in weight which is bad when these vehicles are already so heavy.
The Silverado got beefed with the batteries
Exactly. It has roughly 60% more battery than the others. It should be able to tow further. It would be the same with ICE trucks if they each had different sized fuel tanks for a tow range test.
@@GameHorror73 it's the same as the Hummer
@@georgehenry3384 it's 215 probably 205 useable
0:45 Graphics team on point with that CT as a triangle and also a ramp for the other vehicles
I'm a good artist
@@JerryRigEverything I want to learn animation software to be able to do that!
@@JerryRigEverythingPeak Efficiency!
@@JerryRigEverythinghad to make it known it was you
I hired the Silverado in San Diego. It was meant to be a Tesla but they haven't had any for a long time so they gave me the Silverado. Really nice truck to drive! So much legroom in the back for the kids and the all round cameras were really handy
The bungie cord gag gets me every time :D
Redundancy at its finest.
What makes this even more impressive is the fact you were doing 75/80mph the whole way, thats wild. Do another test and drive at more reasonable 65 or 70 and lets see how far it'll go.
Most RVers don't break 65. This truck would most likely be 220+ miles towing at more realistic towing speeds.
@@stevengilbert6613 exactly, when I tow my camper I don't go over 65.
In Texas no one goes under 80 so it's still a relevant test for a lot of us
The major freeway in this video (I-15 in Utah Valley) has a speed limit of 70 mph. During daylight, and outside of rush hour, it's common to have a slow lane of maybe 65 - 70 mph, and a fast lane of 80-85, depending on the specific individuals on the road at the time.
No one should be surprised that the Silverado lasted longer. It has a much, much larger battery.
Yes, he should add wh/mile to compare efficiency during pulling.
@@Genju89 Exactly. The Silverado has a 25kwh advantage over the largest battery in any of the other trucks (R1T can have a 180kwh battery.)
244 kWh is wild .
So you're saying it's a better value since they give you more battery
@@Genju89 chevy did 0.7mi/kWh, CT did 1193Wh/mil (which is 0.84mi/kWh). So, even with worse aerodinamyc and winter wether CT spent less energy
Any plans to test the GMC Hummer truck EV as well? It's the only one you're missing now.
I want to!
@@JerryRigEverythingHope not!
Of course you will need a Hummer towing the Hummer!
We all need that sweet "EV Hummer towing an EV Hummer" content
(okay yes the converted humvee isn't really a "hummer" but close enough, let me have my fun)
Someone had a Hummer EV Launch addition with the 1000 HP 2022 i think? with like 8,000 miles for 78,000 dollars I think. That is crazy if I had the money I would possibly had jump. Those things at auction where being pickup at 200K plus.
When's the next Bunker vid coming out? Can't wait!! 😅😆
Probably next month. The wheelchair factory move is taking most of my time this month.
@@JerryRigEverything will we get a vid on that too?
@@nicholaskiefer99obviously
Hopes a factory tour video ❤@@JerryRigEverything
For all the rest of the world. He was driving 130 km/h with 4.5+ tons behind.
🎉
He reached 285 km of range
More like a Maximum of 120 km/h, as he said himself.
FWIW, metric and imperial tons are roughly the same. Although he gave the weight in lbs, you'll often hear imperial tons used for vehicle weights, and you basically don't have to convert for most purposes.
@@erebostd I guess you missed a part where speedo was showing 80mph at 6:56
Great video as always! The results aren't too surprising when you know that the Silverado EV has a battery that's about twice as big as other electric pickups.
Yeah I was hoping he would mention this and not just let people assume it's twice as efficient...
@@N__T and it’s actually less efficient because it doesn’t get twice as much range when offloaded, which actually helps it during the towing test as the trailer and the load has less effect on the truck (in terms of efficiency).
Because is carrying the weight of 2 batteries
Putting the specs where it matters
This type of testing is amazing content to watch . Thanks zak.we look forward to seeing more of these and the series continue . Much love from south Africa
That is freaking amazing! I can't wait to get my hands on one of these in the near future.
If you're going at 60mph instead of 80 you can easily go 30-40% further than in this test too. Air resistance at those speeds is huge.
How about 1mph so you can go forever
@@anthonyawuley😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@canonicalcriticIt’s about right, more or less. EV cars are heavily impacted by small loss of efficiency. And wind resistance is the largest loss for EV. I have an EV and it’s rated at 272 miles of range. In real world at 75mph I get 200 miles. At 85mph I drop to about 170 miles. At 50-55mph I can get 250 miles.
Roughly explained, electric engines are basically very efficient and have very little loss, but as your speed increases, the aerodynamic drag increases exponentially.
But gas engines are very very inefficient, especially at low speed. Efficiency gets better with higher speed, which kind of counteracts drag. And that’s why you don’t dramatically lose as much range with higher speed with gas car.
@@canonicalcritic Air resistance increases by squared (so 4x) with a doubling of speed. As majority of drag on a car is aerodynamic above ~60 km/h, especially so when towing, reducing speed has an absolutely massive effect on consumption.
I can say with 100% confidence what I've quoted above is true from my own testing, Bjørn Nyland in Norway also maintains spreadsheets with over a hundred EVs that he's tested and reviewed on his CZcams channel at both 90 km/h and 120 km/h, (56 and 75 mph) and range increases of around 40% is typical, which are openly available for anyone to read.
@@anthonyawuley Below about 20 mph EVs stop gaining range with lower speeds, due to parasitic drain from electrical systems, infotainment, lighting, and such. Most EVs will do anywhere between ~150-200% of their EPA-rated range at ~30-40 mph constant speeds.
Reason the speed is so much higher for ICE cars, at around 40mph instead of 20 mph, is because the parasitic drain from running an engine is so enormous that below that most of the energy consumed will simply be to idle the engine.
My favorite incident in my Rivian was getting off the freeway, and ending up at the top of the offramp next to a lifted RAM Cummins who started rolling coal next to me. I just rolled my eyes. The light turned green, and he made a ton of noise turning left as fast as he could.
Then we ended up next to each other at the red light after crossing over the freeway. He started rolling coal again. This time, pointed in a straight line, I let him have it when the light turned green. He floored it, I left him in the dust before the two lanes merged into one.
Oh, and I was towing a 28', 7000-8000 lb travel trailer. He wasn't towing anything. And I was low on juice, that exit was to stop at a charging station, I only had ~8% battery left, so was slightly power-reduced.
Having to clean up the trailer from items that fell off shelves onto the floor was worth it to embarrass the coal roller.
lol. I’ve been rolled twice towing in my R1T. I just ignored it though, because I wasn’t confident my trailer could handle the launch. Funny thing is I have a power stroke diesel at home that I keep just for super long trips and when I need the extra payload. Coal rollers are just owning themselves by paying extra for fuel.
@@WanderingWatts My R1T replaced our Powerstroke 7.3. Having the 8’ bed would have been nice on two occasions, but haven’t yet run into something I truly _couldn’t_ do in the R1T that the Ford could have done.
I haven't had anyone try to coal roll me in the Model 3, but they try on the Bolt constantly. I usually don't have the opportunity to pass them, but I can get close enough behind them that the smoke goes around my car and not all over it. Makes them so mad to see a little hatchback gaining on them at full throttle.
@@WanderingWattsoh yeah it’s such a stupid way to tune a diesel engine most of the time it makes LESS power like that since the air fuel ratio is so rich. It’s nice seeing a tuned powerful diesel that runs clean
@@AnonymousFreakYT- except stop at a fuel station for 5-10 minutes and keep going on your trip…..
The reason the Silverado EV is doing better is the battery size. It is supposed to be over 200 KW while Cybertruck is 123 KW. There is a 2000 lbs difference. They did this with the Hummer EV.
Also the cybertruck did not have the second battery inside. With it, it would easily surpass it.
@@davidcroteau5078 define "inside"
And the cybertruck bed battery adds less than 40% more capacity to the Cybertruck, so no it would not come close to matching the Silverado even with it.
@@pilotdog68 Never mind, you are right I thought the second external bed battery was bigger.
To be fair, the others you tested were in winter (which cuts battery capacity in half!), and with off road tires. BIG difference! I like apples to apples comparisons better.
Actually it's more like a 10-20% difference once you hit freezing temps, not half.
There were also multiple 0-60 full throttle runs on the cyber truck as I recall, almost like they were trying to generate a certain outcome for better clickbait. Wonder why that would be, hmm
A result I'm actually happy with. While very expensive, this keeps up with the gasoline medium duty pickups sold today. The tech is finally coming around, but a transmission would be nice for better efficiency.
We all know Hoovie is the OG electric vehicle towing tester 😂
Have to say those visuals are looking greattt!!!
Ok I like the truck having a spare tire.
Excited to see this so I get to enjoy the single bungie cord "that's not going anywhere" joke again 😁
0:22 - yeah! 🥳
Thank you. I’ve been waiting for more Chevy EV coverage
Jerry has become a favourite for the ev companies 😂💪
It has the highest range, but it's just a huge (unsustainably priced) battery. 215 kWh which is incredibly huge. The efficiency is last below all the EV trucks, except the Hummer EV (same platform and battery, just less efficient)
Awesome video as always
I didn't think I would like this truck, but after seeing it in person and seeing reviews it seems more and more appealing.
Every EV manufacturer feeling good until this man posts a range test
Damn, that was actually impressive. Nicely done, Chevy.
It have bigger battery.
The only thing stopping me from going to an EV truck is the tow range. It's not quite there yet, but it's good to see progress.
How often do you tow ?
I went EV and have been towing with it (R1T). It’s gone a lot better than I feared. I only tow 5-6 times in the summer though, and the Rivian has the advantage of a front charge port so I don’t often have to drop the trailer. I’m getting around 150-175 miles per charge.
@@WanderingWatts-then how long does the charge take to full battery once depleted?
@@Harry_Truman72 About as long as it takes to eat lunch and use the restroom.
@@selanryn5849 - It takes you 13 hours to eat lunch and use the restroom? WOW.....
Thanks for the video. Hard to find unbiased EV towing videos on CZcams, glad there is at least one.
That is a beautiful truck Zack
Hey man, I just wanted to thank you for being an inspiration to me, after watching a few videos, I had started out on my own project, I made it into a vehicle with a tank base and slots to add sensors and other PCB's and Uno's. As a bonus I also added in a JRE Logo on the side, as a sort of thank you, for the idea & motivation.
Dang the battery capacity of this thing must be monstrous too
Nearly 200kwh if I remember correctly, which is indeed insane.
@@yveslauwereyns6677 gross is over 220kwhs capacity. Useable is 205-212kwhs depending on whose testing you can believe?
Awesome and outstanding as always
I love this truck! It is a great ride.
I love when u start doing video purely for ur own satisfaction no sponsorship no nothing ❤❤👏🏽
Feels rare these days.
@@biggin2155 yeah nowadays no one will do anything for free
@@Salem.belkha lol, wait, you think he filmed and uploaded this video to CZcams out of the kindness of his heart? Lol
@@fj06carnone nah ofc he's getting paid from the Chevy nd from CZcams we all know that 😄😄
I had 175mi and quite impressed
i had same quess
Its always fun to see Zack driving around the same streets and landmarks that I see everyday :)
Amazing scenery!
He needs to go to Saltair so we can see the glittering lights and the sunbathers relaxing in the cool, clear waters of the lake.
Incredible Nuclear Content Which is electrifying 🙌
People = “I’m going to town”
Zack = free video lol
Zack has become quite the infomercial salesman for other brands. This video isn't sponsored by Chevy because Chevy knows Zack will do all the work for them.
I'll never get over him doing a positive review of those shitty Dyson air purifying headphones.
that trailer swing at 2:17 was a nice shot
That dbrand numerplate cover is gold!
When's the next garden update??
Good video.
Chevy never gets any of the press these days. Always Ford, Tesla, Rivian and Ram.
But Chevy has some of the best truck products lately. None of the dumb gimmick stuff...but just solid, well designed and engineered products.
That DBrand pouch covering the license plate, nice.
that mileage comparison animation 0:41 is hilarious! 😂
The F-150 seems like a good and well rounded EV truck
I actually like the Lightning ride quality way more than the stock F150. That IRS does wonders for that truck.
80% in 55 minutes will always be my hang up on getting an EV truck.
That's honestly very slow for an EV, 20-30 minutes is typical and the best are under 20 minutes.
@@swecreations Well it's because the Silverado battery is huge. That's the reason for the longer range and longer charge time.
Doesn't that really depend on what you are using it for? If you do various jobs (or shopping runs) around town / in a city you'll never need to charge during the day. (Which is also why I don't have an EV. Around town I do everything by electric bike, seeing I live in the Netherlands. Only ever use my car for longer distances and holidays.)
I mean. Every day that goes by there is more research and development being done. By the time you probably really want to get an EV the technology will have advanced.
@@FoobarDesign That's fair. But if I spend that much on a vehicle then it course it'll probably be my only vehicle. So if I go on a road trip then I refuse to waste an hour to charge multiple times during that trip.
Gotta say this is extremely impressive
That bungee cord was absolutely beautiful!😂😂😂
You haven't been sponsored by Chevy but you somehow just accidentally happened to forget to mention that Silverado has an almost double battery size which translates into one more tonne of weight and abysmal efficiency which was also just mysteriously not mentioned through the whole video.
The Chevy EV truck looks far more like what I would imagine a "Cyber" truck to look like than the actual CyberTruck.
seeing as you own the R1T and a Cybertruck, id love for you to retest those during the summer for a more even comparison. Keep up the Great work
Great video as always.
Love those science terms on regen. I was thinking your using kinetic energy going downhill to charge up your potential energy then at the bottom of the hill when you step on the accelerator it goes the other way .. from potential to kinetic energy until the battery 🪫 drops and needs a charge. Great video as always.
“ Thats not going to anywhere “
😂
5:57, Jerry forgets to mention that the battery of the Silverado EV is 90 kWh larger than the one in the Cybertruck: 123 kWh for the Cybertruck vs. roughly 212 kWh for the Silverado.
Yea he hates Tesla and won't point out the reason why the Chevy went further smh.
@@MxRider684 he explained the aerodynamics problem with cybertruck, that is a major factor regardless of battery size(watch the engineering explained video)
“That’s not going anywhere.” Never gets old.
Dude is the only guy i know who is actively advocating for EV trucks and cars. LOL
Cars are 100% inevitable. They are going down in price and tech is getting better and better. In 2 years, we will see a big difference
WTF Nope, bunch of car CZcamsr are doing that now. People who you would of never thought. Vin Wiki and Tavarish being a surprising outcome. Seems like they smelt the BS of Anti EV Cult, don't want any part of it.
did i miss the part of the video where he told people to go buy an EV?
An hour for 6% to 80% is an insane ask of people.
Yep. Takes like 2 minutes to fill a tank with gas. Takes the guy at the pump in front of you 2 minutes as well. Factor in waiting time for a charger and this sucks. I still kinda want one though because the new normal for gas here is $5 a gallon.
Can't wait for you to test the RAM EV when it becomes available!
Gah I want the RAM 1500 REV concept form factor soo bad. Low ride height Cab Forward with a long bed.
Nice information ❤
The cybertruck for 100k doesn't even have a heads-up display. What a joke.
I love the cybertruck!
@@canieto1service Elon somewhere else
The that's not going anywhere got me LOL
8:32 - what a nice ramp for the Rivian to drive down! 😂😂😂
Zack, it's like they made this truck just for you. How canny! haha
Great video, thank you.
Thank you for having one channel for all of your stuff. It’s tiring subscribing to people 5th side channel. Have just stop doing it, so thank you 🙏
Seriously impressed with the Chevy EV! Really looking forward to seeing Fords upcoming T3 due out next year. Just ordered another Powerboost F150 hybrid but I'll seriously be considering a full EV truck in 3 years time depending on what's available
Just finished a 1200 mile road trip across california and Oregon then back in our Tesla and we were charging probably about as frequently as you would be doing the same roadtrip in the silverado. that's pretty impressive (tho I'd honestly wait until it has NACS standard so you can use superchargers, def. made the charging part of the trip painless)
Can't wait for you to test the ram REV 👌
Great video!
This truck would work great for someone who needs to do local work while carrying stuff around. Still ways off for being the go to long distance hauler. It would be years before I prefer to get an electric U-Haul for moving my stuff for more than 100 miles.
But for 80% of people owning trucks, this would get it done!
I'd be interested to see you test the efficiency of EVs in the summer vs winter.
the loan is the sponsorship, wow Jerry been watching you for over a decade didn't think you would sell out and lie. best of luck
Jerryrigeverything. Perfect video idea. Do a towing range test. A gas truck vs an electric truck in an urban/suburban environment. Like contractors would use locally around a city center. NOBODY does this. Steady state cruising is the worst for EV’s and the best for gas. City driving is the opposite. An EV can take advantage of regen, where as a gas truck has to dissipate all that energy with the brakes. The heavier the towing weight the more of advantage the EV should have. If we are talking about a 25mph suburban environment, I bet a silverado EV would have more range than a 1/2 ton with a 25 gallon tank with a very heavy load.
3:39 love the fact the Tundra on the rights tires matched the frame rate and doesn't look like its tires are spinning
Pretty good result. Also this truck can charge way faster than it showed there.
Another CZcams channel I watched did a towing test with all four of the trucks, I believe fort Collins Colorado up and over the Rocky mountains to Grand junction and back. But it was 6,700 lb or 7,000 lb.
They got 240 mi on the Chevy. With about 15% battery left when they got to the destination. When they plugged in it was pulling I think 330 kilowatts to about 50% and then held over 200 kilowatts to 80%. 15% to full took about 1 hour. And cost about $120 lol.
All the other trucks required multiple charging stops both directions. The Silverado made it all the way to the end with one stop and then all the way back. It really is a hell of a good truck. It's just got a hell of a lot bigger battery which is what you need if you're going to do this kind of work. Also I believe it can output 11 kilowatts in the bed. And I think GM sells some equipment for your house to make the truck be a battery backup. GM did a lot right with this truck. And honestly it's not that much more expensive than a well equipped Denali.
These videos are very informative. I know my boat is signifcantly lighter than 10k lbs. but still would like to at least get to the lake 196 miles away. If it's charged by the time to drive home, that would be the minimum requirement. The Silverado EV is getting close...
"thats not going anywhere" that was almost the standard comment in the military!
The EV Silverado is freaking huge. Seen it in person and I think the new battery tech is probably gonna go far
That charging time is outrageous
0:47 lol Rivian climbing over the tesla is funny
That big battery really helps.
maybe there will be an aero kit or air deflector that you can get for the cybertruck when towing, I would like to see a SUMMER, best tyres and air deflector kit to see how cybertruck does
0:25 😂 this destroyed me more than I'd expect😂😂😂
2x the battery size as the CT, and less than 2x range. Great efficiency there.
Two times battery? Not two times the range? I think you got the numbers backwards! The batteries: 200 / 123 is nowhere near two times more! There is only 63% more battery capacity. The two, 177 miles is very close to double the 90 miles: the towing distance grew by 97%. That is, the Silverado made 177 miles with a 200 kWh battery (0.89 miles/kWh) and the Cybertruck made just 90 miles with a 123 kWh battery (only 0.73 miles/kWh)...
Nice work Chevy
The big problem is gonna be during-trip charging. 55 mins for 80% charge is a bit steep for time.
I guess next test is a how long it takes to tow 10k lbs 600 miles. Which would include charge times.
I saw your other vid with this truck and am really impressed so far. But I'll wait until they hit production to see final results.
Guess for range: 120
I used the work with Nate! It was cool to see him featured in this video!
Love the videos. Are you going to do anymore work/videos on the HummerEV?
Yup! I want to paint it some day
"thats not goin anywhere" he did the thing! Praise
Is that a big deal or something?
Locals after seeing the Humvee on the bed : "Oh, Zack must be back at it again !"
I would really love your take on the new up and coming Telo EV Compact Truck! They are a new company and I would love to see you go in and review with them :)
How surprisingly convenient has it become to have such a towing "test article" at the ready?
Here in Sweden we are only allowed to drive at 80km/h (50mph) while towing, so it would get significantly longer range here.