Little tip for Toshiba drivers that aren't available on their website anymore: trying the link on the Wayback Machine usually works. It might work with other brands as well.
With intel it's a bit weirder, I haven't found them on the wayback machine, but they might have a support page containing download links to discontinued drivers, if all else fails shady websites might hold the link
i was gonna say this, for me 80% of times this works for any site that holds any direct download link to a file that can't be found (even if the site itself is dead and you just found a link somewhere else)
That's really strange, I don't think the Wayback Machine included those as part of the website snapshot. It's more like those files are still hosted somewhere in the company's servers, only the link is broken in the modern website for some reason.
@@BilisNegra they take a snapshot of the contents of the pages which are just files on a server in the end, so they probably save the other files the same way. I'm not sure how but it saved me precious hours a few times already.
Not just drivers, the wayback machine even has software. I remember getting software for long dead websites because of it. Save me so much headache! I believe it has to do with how the downloads are linked. If it's a direct download the wayback machine should be able to download it. If there is some intermediate step like accepting some disclaimer then it will probably never be downloaded.
I worked at Toshiba when this came out. With the employee discount it was only $1,200 (normally about $2K). Also bought the extra battery and external CD drive. Handy, little device that I used a lot and still own.
Does it still work perfectly fine? How often was it used/cleaned? I am wondering about how to best maintain a retro PC, that's why I ask about how it was treated.
@@perfectlyroundcircleIt's been a few years since I booted it, but last time I did it still worked. But it was very slow due to the paltry 256-MB RAM as it constantly paged to the HDD. I used it mainly for writing when away from my desktop, so it never received much heavy use and is still in really good shape. For the past decade it's been sitting inside a filing cabinet since I have a hard time throwing things out.
My first laptop was a Toshiba. It makes me sad that they are out of the PC game. I'd have loved to buy another Toshiba if they kept making them like before.
I have done the psychoanalytics for you and are sad because you thought you were king of the hill, top of your game, with your Toshiba, and it turns out it was a foundation of dust.
Toshiba more or less directly left the consumer electronics market (outside of licensing their name), in favor of enterprise and B2B (eg their point of sale business they bought from IBM a decade ago).
I was a product manager at Toshiba Benelux around 1990. Amazing that then they had the largest market share and they are gone now. First notebook with 286, first with 386, first with 486, first with TFT color, first with pcmcia etc. etc.
I used to love their notebooks. They where indestructible. I had one that I forget in a table bus the wind when it starded to rain. It was soaking wet. I removed the battery, and let it ope to dry and worked perfectly even after.
I bought a 13 inch Toshiba laptop in early 2002, which had a P3. It was not the fastest but worked well. The part that annoyed me was when I tried to swap the CD drive for a CD burner and it would not work, yet when I put that same CD burner in an older P2 gateway computer it worked fine; only to find out from Toshiba that they locked the drive upgrades to sell more expensive Toshiba Laptops.
What a beautiful piece of computer history !!! Along the same genre, you MUST test the Sony VAIO PCG-505. It's an amazing machine and I'm sure you'll love it 😊 !
I had one of these at a repairshop I worked at back in 2017. I was stunned when I found out this came out in 2001! I installed a super light version of XP on it with a Windows 7 skin. I then played back a few episodes of Star Trek TNG to test out if it could handle video playback. 240p videos where its limit, but it could play videos!
Nice laptop! I sold a lot of Toshiba laptops back in the early 2000's. They were pretty good. Having WiFi and an SD card slot was pretty futuristic back in 2001 - both were fairly new.
I still don't realise how thin it was compared to the other market laptops, but this is really impressive and daring to remove the optical drive at this time, with minimal ports. It reminds me today's thin laptop PCs.
Palm, Toshiba, Blackberry, Compq its unbelievable that names like these and others were juggernauts and synonymous in tech. All are either gone or a husk of its former self.
I own a Toshiba Tecra M5 from 2007 or 6 and i have to say it's pretty good for its time with ddr2 ram, sata hard disk and a core 2 duo. An excellent windows xp laptop in my experience
Very nice little machine! The poor GPU performance is definitely a driver issue - it looks like it's using software only. I like the upgradability and the recessed status lights.
Is quake easy to run? I've had laptops from that era with graphics adapters that would not game at all (I think it was a trident card also, or S3) so I don't believe it can get much better. It's just for productivity work.
@@volvo09 He said Trident card in the video, so with only 16MB of RAM, and it being system shared RAM at 256MB so super slow, and not good for gaming, and barely enough for productivity in Win XP. In fact I remember 32bit XP struggling to do some office task in Open Office with 4GB(3.5GB usable) of system ram, and a dual core AMD Athlon XP CPU.
@@CommodoreFan64 yeah the way I see these graphics adapters is they are only good for running an OS. Shared 100mhz system memory isn't going to be a gaming card for anything but dos games that would run on a good 486 system.
I have this one. My parent's friend bought directly from Japan and it was called "Toshiba Dynabook SS 2000M DS75P". It has Pentium III M CPU, 20GB hard drive, and runs Windows XP. However, there were some issues with hard drive that can fail at any moment. After replacing it with a part very similar to iPod hard drive (without Apple logo of course) the issue went away. The keyboard was also replaced with international Portégé part that does not have Japanese characters after the original Japanese keyboard broke down.
wow this laptop was 20 years ahead, surprised it didn't have a DVD drive but also logical if you wanna keep it thin i don't remember if thin CD/DVD players were a thing in 2001
I had a Dell Latitude X200, actually the Gateway-branded model. A friend of mine worked at Intel, dug it out of the trash, and sold it to me for $80 along with spare batteries and a dock. I loved it, and it got me through college (with Windows 7 installed) in the late 2000’s.
Toshiba had been building ultra-thin machines for a long time at this point - the Portege line from about the 3000 series onwards was less than an inch thick and IIRC also used an ultra-slim 2.5" drive to make it work.
Interesting device. I played around with a Sony Vaio X505 (the thinnest Notebook from 2004). The spec sheet reads similar. Also using a Pentium m (although newer) and the 1.8 inch drives. I used an iPod modding adapter to convert it to an sdcard. It improved boot times and made installing software easier. I even got macOS running on it in the end. That might be possible with yours as well.
@@johnfranklin2996 I repaired some water damage. Reolaced the HDD with an SD Card. THen I installed Windows XP and OS X Tiger in a dualboot. I made some videos about it
I have the Toshiba Portege 3110CT. Surprisingly enough, I actually like that little thing. I used it back in the day as a little WiFi based streaming music player with Winamp as it was light, and it had a decent battery life for being small.
There are adapters in that 1.8 inch IDE format that will allow you to convert to an MSATA SSD, I have done just that with an IBM Thinkpad X40 laptop that I have. The only thing to be careful of is the adapters come in both 3.3v and 5.0v versions, so you need to get the right one for the machine.
Regarding the graphics chip (Trident Video Accelerator CyberBlade XP Ai1), there seems to be a newer driver on Update Catalog dated 10/6/2002. It probably won't make Quake III magically playable though.
I am so pleased that the phrase "road warrior" completely died by 2010 or so. As a "techie" in the business telecoms industry, I used to be the "technical backup" for sales people in their meetings with customers to discuss mobile telecoms solutions. I often had to "bite my tongue" in those meetings for not laughing out loud when the sales guy would talk about "road warrior" as a short, balding and pot-bellied chap in a suit, not some "leather clad Mad Max" type character.
I hope that I can send my Toshiba satellite C855 for review someday. This machine has been serving us well since 2011/2012 (hard to recall the exact year). Upgrades and mods have kept this system very usable even today.
I used the heck out of (and still have) a Toshiba 3480CT, 11.3" screen and a port expander that plugged into the PCMCIA slot. Still the P3-600 and S3Savage graphics ... reasonable performance in 2000!
I think Mitsubishi Pedion beats the title as a thinnest laptop in 2001, it beats Toshiba by 2mm and three years, yet it was 300g heavier, but since it was discontinued quickly and disappear from the market by the time this Toshiba was put on the shelf, i guess it's still technically correct.
The thinnest laptop of 2000, was the Gateway Solo 3350. I useto repair alot of laptops but this particular one was over engineered. I still have one that's 23 years old and still turns on after years of heavy use.😅
I'm actually curious how it handled emulation. No cutting edge modern solutions today, just something like VirtuaNES, VisualBoyAdvance, ZSNES and Project64. I used a Pentium M laptop with ATI Radeon and these worked fine, but I wonder if this meager configuration could handle any of these. If so, retro gaming is still an option on here, albeit with some asterisks.
I imagine it would be fine on this laptop. I was running emulation software for NES, Sega Genesis/32x and SNES on a 486DX4 running DOS, way back in the day and the games ran well.
These are rather amazing machines for the time. its a shame the 2000 model can't play retro games. I've done a video on the 2120 that I believe is the next model. And it was a far better performer also supporting Windows 98 and good midi!
I have to refute you on this one. I worked in a computer store, I had hands on experience with all of the cheap laptops, and Toshiba made the worst of the worst laptops. The case would flex so much that the screws would fall out. Without the support of the screws, the case the hinge attached to would break apart. The letters would wear off the keys, touchpads would have a copper hole in the middle, DC jacks would fail but not break, or they would work but the plastic holding it in place would break. I fixed several with epoxy for customers who didn't want to pay for all new plastic panels. The heavy touchscreens of the time made the problem worse. I have actually seen Dynabooks in person, my workplace mistakenly bought a few A50's a couple years ago. They are a blast from the past, and not in a good way. Huge thick bezels, CD-ROM, swappable battery, flexy keyboard, barrel connector, but miserable hollow feeling plastic with a rough finish. Just a continuation of the C series. They are branded as Dynabook Inc. on the bottom with no mention of Toshiba, Sharp, or Foxconn. It's probably the worst laptop on sale today, maybe the better models are better.
@@compaqdeskpro5770you probably had the cheap Toshiba Dynabook models, not the durable ones with high specs! When I was in college, decades ago those Toshiba laptops were good built quality, I had a classmate that ran FPS games like unreal tournament and Quake 3, it ran smooth from the CD rom drive! The later Dynabook models were probably terrible that Toshiba sold off their computer division since they mismanaged the company!
This machine is just a good dream! I saw one only once, on the lap of a big boss of ERICSSON in Brazil back there in the 2000s. I am quite sure he didn't buy that in Brazil. I got shocked when I fist saw this laptop. I was bothering the old man and my father told me to get lost. Hahaha. Late 90s, in Brazil, TOSHIBA laptops were the dream of any computer enthusiast.
Reminded me of the Sony Vaio 505 series (1998-04). Similar dimensions. I remember seeing a PIII one at school once during a demo/presentation and was absolutely enamored by its dimensions. was no Thinkpad X series of the time (which would be thicker and heavier, but also built better), but the color and dimensions were perfect/neat as heck.
quite curious how it would perform if you switch the XP to the optimized for performance, where it turns off many graphical features of the OS and frees up some memory...
I had ordered one of these for the CEO of the company I worked for at the time with the expanded battery pack. It was truly an amazing sight to behold at that time.
I still use one of these to run Heroes of Might & Magic 3 and some DOS apps. You can get an 2" HD to CF adapter and replace the HD. If you can't find the Windows 98 drivers - I think I still have a backup somewhere.
It might not be able to run Quake 3, but it's a heck of a sleek little thing for previous gen gaming. Bet it runs DOOM II and Duke3d pretty good. Quake 3 was the contemporary generation of gaming, but in reality this thing is specced out performance wise more like a mid 90s machine.
I've played Quake 3 on older machines with slower processors and cards like the ATI Rage M1, Riva 128ZX SDR and it ran way better than this. I'm going to assume the CyberAladdin chipset had a significantly lower power draw than other offerings, not sure why else they would use it over 815GM otherwise.
I bought one of this some months ago, looking for a Windows 98 gaming laptop. You can find Windows 98 drivers for everything included video card and sound card, though no sound on pure DOS mode. You shouldn't have replaced stock XP, it included some apps that make the keyboard shortcuts work, but most importantly, USB ports are not 1.1 but 2.0, but need their drivers to work. Also the hard drive can be replaced by a CF card using a special adapter. The video card shows weird artifacts on Direct3D games if image is stretched to fill the screen. Maintaining the black borders on resolutions lower than native 1024x768 seem to solve the problem. An impressive laptop, I was shocked when it arrived. Il'll give it more love.
Oooh, Trident graphics. Your channel tickles all my member-berries. I had that Orinoco wifi card in college as well. Used it to do my senior project on hacking wifi by sniffing traffic and using statistical analysis to crack the wifi password. Good times.
Hey Guess What I also have this unit as well as the Portege r100 with a RED Top, and still got it, as when it came to the place where I work that one of the co-workers said to me: "Since when you can afford a RED Laptop??", I responded it to him: "I Could and I did, now I am using - Peasant" Still got it after 12 years it is still operational, and still showing WiFi signal strong, But it is on WindowsXP, But I am happy I use it for my photo downing on the images from my camera, and I also obtain a Docking Port so I cannot with other devices without expanding it with an multi USB Port hub... Great Video
I had a Toshiba Sattelite thingy from circa 2004 with an utterly useless fingerprint censor, a great keyboard, a usable trackpad, and the ability to run Korg Legacy instruments for live performance as a musician, It took some driver fu to get it happening, but did hundreds of gigs with Shiba before she (i genered her!) was replaced with an Apple thing. $0.02
I knew from the beginning that this looked similar to my laptop in thickness. Funnily enough my laptop is a Dynabook too! Just about 22 years newer though.
Very timeless machine, the same concept as most Laptops today. Just the perfect balance between usability and portability. I never understood why even subnotebooks needed space-wasting dvd drives even into the late 2000's, since most people never used it anyway except for installing windows once.
Computers like this, are why by the mid to late 00's Netbooks became popular because they were priced really well vs. their performance, and premium subnotebooks fell out of favor.
I know you most likely won't read this, but I think the Dell Inspiron Mini series should get it's own video. I always liked the way those little netbooks looked. This video made me think that those little netbooks might be a good video topic!
It was today that I learned these laptops came from a class called PORtege, not PROtege after seeing ads for them for ages in print media and sales fliers.
Have you had a chance to play with that Sony laptop I sent you a while back through FG? I was amazed at how thin the base of the laptop was, considerably thinner than my modern laptop.
I was going to buy this exact same model here in Brazil for 10 bucks, but sadly the seller changed his mind. It would be a nice laptop to my collection.
My personal favorite in terms of both retro and thin laptops is the Compaq N410c. It measures 2.5-3cm and is capable of playing all the retro games we need, thanks to the ATI m6 chip inside. Games like Quake, Thief, and Half-Life work perfectly on this laptop. Additionally, you can even play native DOS games using the recent SBEMU tool, which enables DOS sound support for AC97 chips.
Ah, I don't miss the days of having to set aside a good amount of time to install an OS. I now use a USB 3.1 thumb drive, and I don't ever sit around long enough to want to get up and do something else.
I still have mine (in storage), which was replaced after my original was stolen in the early 2000s. I distinctly recall playing alpha centauri, outpost 2, and age of empires on it at OK performance. The keyboard is usable but still better than apple laptops. I got a microdrive to CF adapter for it, and recall fiddling with OS installs with a USB floppy and PCMCIA USB2.0 card which greatly increased the CD speeds. Linux didn't like the video controller, and NetBSD didn't have full support for APM suspend callbacks for some of the built-in hardware. XP is probably the most usable choice, with the hardware over two decades old now...
"Thinnest laptop in the world..." Uhm... Mitsubishi Pedion? Less than 3/4" thick (18.5mm) in *1998.* It had a Pentium 233 MMX and ran Windows 95. When the MacBook Air came out, _parts_ of it were thinner than the Pedion. But not all of it.
Got myself a Dell Insprion 8100 and 8200 for my mid 90s early 2000s gaming needs. Unfortunately it doesn't have a midi out so using a Roland sc-55 in dos is out of the question unless you know of a 9pin joystick midi out.
The Toshiba Portege 30xxCT is also only 2cm thick - but has a 2.5" drive. I've got 2 restored, including LED-backlight. Nice machines! Unfortunately with an unusual cell size.
Little tip for Toshiba drivers that aren't available on their website anymore: trying the link on the Wayback Machine usually works. It might work with other brands as well.
With intel it's a bit weirder, I haven't found them on the wayback machine, but they might have a support page containing download links to discontinued drivers, if all else fails shady websites might hold the link
i was gonna say this, for me 80% of times this works for any site that holds any direct download link to a file that can't be found (even if the site itself is dead and you just found a link somewhere else)
That's really strange, I don't think the Wayback Machine included those as part of the website snapshot. It's more like those files are still hosted somewhere in the company's servers, only the link is broken in the modern website for some reason.
@@BilisNegra they take a snapshot of the contents of the pages which are just files on a server in the end, so they probably save the other files the same way. I'm not sure how but it saved me precious hours a few times already.
Not just drivers, the wayback machine even has software. I remember getting software for long dead websites because of it. Save me so much headache! I believe it has to do with how the downloads are linked. If it's a direct download the wayback machine should be able to download it. If there is some intermediate step like accepting some disclaimer then it will probably never be downloaded.
I worked at Toshiba when this came out. With the employee discount it was only $1,200 (normally about $2K). Also bought the extra battery and external CD drive. Handy, little device that I used a lot and still own.
Make a video
This video did a great job covering all the important facts about the Portege. Can't think of any other info to add.
Does it still work perfectly fine? How often was it used/cleaned? I am wondering about how to best maintain a retro PC, that's why I ask about how it was treated.
@@perfectlyroundcircleIt's been a few years since I booted it, but last time I did it still worked. But it was very slow due to the paltry 256-MB RAM as it constantly paged to the HDD. I used it mainly for writing when away from my desktop, so it never received much heavy use and is still in really good shape. For the past decade it's been sitting inside a filing cabinet since I have a hard time throwing things out.
@@MonkDarkfyre Interesting. The old machines that still work are used just like that, rarely. Not too intensely but also booted up every few years.
My first laptop was a Toshiba. It makes me sad that they are out of the PC game. I'd have loved to buy another Toshiba if they kept making them like before.
I have done the psychoanalytics for you and are sad because you thought you were king of the hill, top of your game, with your Toshiba, and it turns out it was a foundation of dust.
@@mikelemire5708What the hell are you even talking about dude?
It was sold to Sharp and are now branded as dynabooks
I was sorry to see Toshiba go out of business. I had a Satellite, vintage 1999, that served me well as a traveling trainer for a couple of years.
they went out of buisness?
@@powerpc64 i think he meant from the PC market, considering i just bought a Toshiba microwave a few hours ago
@@jjjacer You're correct. I should have been more specific.
They didn't quite go out of business - they sold the computer brand off as Dynabook to Sharp, and that brand is still going.
Toshiba more or less directly left the consumer electronics market (outside of licensing their name), in favor of enterprise and B2B (eg their point of sale business they bought from IBM a decade ago).
I was a product manager at Toshiba Benelux around 1990. Amazing that then they had the largest market share and they are gone now. First notebook with 286, first with 386, first with 486, first with TFT color, first with pcmcia etc. etc.
Do you think their rubber point stick with vertically arranged buttons had anything to do with it? Its an ergonomic nightmare.
Dang i didn't know they were the first notebooks to have all those features.
and whose fault is that loss of market share, Product Manager at Toshiba?
One word: China
How were you able to pull a 2001 laptop out of an envelope? That was not possible until Macworld 2008!
sounds like someone had lied
Some envelopes are fatter than others :)
Very impressive machine for the day. Toshiba invented the Ultrabook 10 years before Intel did. 👍
When Toshiba was relevant.
When they had some understanding in quality control
Then they died.
I used to love their notebooks. They where indestructible.
I had one that I forget in a table bus the wind when it starded to rain. It was soaking wet. I removed the battery, and let it ope to dry and worked perfectly even after.
@@Joetorres3 I am still using a Toshiba laptop with a 1 gen i3.
@@DonMr warrior! Toshiba laptops were synonym of quality top quality in Brazil.
I bought a 13 inch Toshiba laptop in early 2002, which had a P3. It was not the fastest but worked well. The part that annoyed me was when I tried to swap the CD drive for a CD burner and it would not work, yet when I put that same CD burner in an older P2 gateway computer it worked fine; only to find out from Toshiba that they locked the drive upgrades to sell more expensive Toshiba Laptops.
What a beautiful piece of computer history !!! Along the same genre, you MUST test the Sony VAIO PCG-505. It's an amazing machine and I'm sure you'll love it 😊 !
I had one of these at a repairshop I worked at back in 2017. I was stunned when I found out this came out in 2001!
I installed a super light version of XP on it with a Windows 7 skin. I then played back a few episodes of Star Trek TNG to test out if it could handle video playback. 240p videos where its limit, but it could play videos!
Imagine boarding a plane with this laptop and bandolier belt of replacement batteries.
There was a 2nd panel on the back next to the LAN port that has the RJ-11 port.
Nice laptop! I sold a lot of Toshiba laptops back in the early 2000's. They were pretty good. Having WiFi and an SD card slot was pretty futuristic back in 2001 - both were fairly new.
Absolutely! Business people LOVED those Protogés, and Toshiba was a quality manufacturer at the time.
I still don't realise how thin it was compared to the other market laptops, but this is really impressive and daring to remove the optical drive at this time, with minimal ports. It reminds me today's thin laptop PCs.
Palm, Toshiba, Blackberry, Compq its unbelievable that names like these and others were juggernauts and synonymous in tech. All are either gone or a husk of its former self.
I own a Toshiba Tecra M5 from 2007 or 6 and i have to say it's pretty good for its time with ddr2 ram, sata hard disk and a core 2 duo. An excellent windows xp laptop in my experience
Very nice little machine! The poor GPU performance is definitely a driver issue - it looks like it's using software only. I like the upgradability and the recessed status lights.
Is quake easy to run?
I've had laptops from that era with graphics adapters that would not game at all (I think it was a trident card also, or S3) so I don't believe it can get much better. It's just for productivity work.
@@volvo09 He said Trident card in the video, so with only 16MB of RAM, and it being system shared RAM at 256MB so super slow, and not good for gaming, and barely enough for productivity in Win XP.
In fact I remember 32bit XP struggling to do some office task in Open Office with 4GB(3.5GB usable) of system ram, and a dual core AMD Athlon XP CPU.
@@CommodoreFan64 yeah the way I see these graphics adapters is they are only good for running an OS. Shared 100mhz system memory isn't going to be a gaming card for anything but dos games that would run on a good 486 system.
@@volvo09 I could run Quake on an old PowerMac with NO GPU back in the late 90s so yeah
@@CommodoreFan64 For gaming in 2001, that's a respectable GPU. It definitely should be able to run Quake better than that.
The only huge compromise I see here is the battery - the port selection and upgradability are way better than similarly thin and light modern laptops.
The way these old laptops look brings me great nostalgia.
Interesting, never seen a laptop from the early early 2000s with an SD card slot before.
I have this one. My parent's friend bought directly from Japan and it was called "Toshiba Dynabook SS 2000M DS75P". It has Pentium III M CPU, 20GB hard drive, and runs Windows XP. However, there were some issues with hard drive that can fail at any moment. After replacing it with a part very similar to iPod hard drive (without Apple logo of course) the issue went away. The keyboard was also replaced with international Portégé part that does not have Japanese characters after the original Japanese keyboard broke down.
wow this laptop was 20 years ahead, surprised it didn't have a DVD drive but also logical if you wanna keep it thin i don't remember if thin CD/DVD players were a thing in 2001
I had a Dell Latitude X200, actually the Gateway-branded model. A friend of mine worked at Intel, dug it out of the trash, and sold it to me for $80 along with spare batteries and a dock. I loved it, and it got me through college (with Windows 7 installed) in the late 2000’s.
Toshiba had been building ultra-thin machines for a long time at this point - the Portege line from about the 3000 series onwards was less than an inch thick and IIRC also used an ultra-slim 2.5" drive to make it work.
Interesting device. I played around with a Sony Vaio X505 (the thinnest Notebook from 2004). The spec sheet reads similar. Also using a Pentium m (although newer) and the 1.8 inch drives. I used an iPod modding adapter to convert it to an sdcard. It improved boot times and made installing software easier. I even got macOS running on it in the end. That might be possible with yours as well.
define "played around"
@@johnfranklin2996 I repaired some water damage. Reolaced the HDD with an SD Card. THen I installed Windows XP and OS X Tiger in a dualboot. I made some videos about it
Sharp had laptops that were thinner in the same time period but they were only sold in Japan and were incredibly expensive.
I have the Toshiba Portege 3110CT. Surprisingly enough, I actually like that little thing. I used it back in the day as a little WiFi based streaming music player with Winamp as it was light, and it had a decent battery life for being small.
i wonder if you can use an ipod flash mod kit with these laptops. there's a really nice one that supports modern m.2 drives.
When I saw that 1.8" drive, yeah, that's my exact thought that I had.
There are adapters in that 1.8 inch IDE format that will allow you to convert to an MSATA SSD, I have done just that with an IBM Thinkpad X40 laptop that I have.
The only thing to be careful of is the adapters come in both 3.3v and 5.0v versions, so you need to get the right one for the machine.
why care when a Handspring Visor would sync nicely?
Regarding the graphics chip (Trident Video Accelerator CyberBlade XP Ai1), there seems to be a newer driver on Update Catalog dated 10/6/2002. It probably won't make Quake III magically playable though.
Imagine this with a modern day looking touchpad. You'd never say this design was from 2001.
Actually the thinnest notebook in 2001 was the Sharp Muramasa PC-UM10, with a thickness of just 1,66 cm.
1 POINT 66, and take that metric **** somewhere else
I am so pleased that the phrase "road warrior" completely died by 2010 or so.
As a "techie" in the business telecoms industry, I used to be the "technical backup" for sales people in their meetings with customers to discuss mobile telecoms solutions.
I often had to "bite my tongue" in those meetings for not laughing out loud when the sales guy would talk about "road warrior" as a short, balding and pot-bellied chap in a suit, not some "leather clad Mad Max" type character.
It is a good term and should be maintained.
@@johnfranklin2996 I think it's a phrase designed to appeal to those who revel in their own self-importance.
I hope that I can send my Toshiba satellite C855 for review someday. This machine has been serving us well since 2011/2012 (hard to recall the exact year). Upgrades and mods have kept this system very usable even today.
Toshiba were so pioneering with laptops in the 90s and early 00's, it's weird how they've pretty much fallen away as a brand.
they have NOT fallen anywhere, they are doing great
@@allentoyokawa9068 Don't see their products at all any more.
I used the heck out of (and still have) a Toshiba 3480CT, 11.3" screen and a port expander that plugged into the PCMCIA slot. Still the P3-600 and S3Savage graphics ... reasonable performance in 2000!
I think Mitsubishi Pedion beats the title as a thinnest laptop in 2001, it beats Toshiba by 2mm and three years, yet it was 300g heavier, but since it was discontinued quickly and disappear from the market by the time this Toshiba was put on the shelf, i guess it's still technically correct.
4:53 ...Which certainly was not a common feature for the era (USB boot capability).
Oh man, I remember these. We had a ton of them, my users (especially the execs) loved the size.
Portégé and Tecra were THE business laptops of the 1990s outside of the US. My dad had a couple Portégés and Tecras from his work.
The thinnest laptop of 2000, was the Gateway Solo 3350. I useto repair alot of laptops but this particular one was over engineered. I still have one that's 23 years old and still turns on after years of heavy use.😅
I'm actually curious how it handled emulation. No cutting edge modern solutions today, just something like VirtuaNES, VisualBoyAdvance, ZSNES and Project64. I used a Pentium M laptop with ATI Radeon and these worked fine, but I wonder if this meager configuration could handle any of these. If so, retro gaming is still an option on here, albeit with some asterisks.
I imagine it would be fine on this laptop. I was running emulation software for NES, Sega Genesis/32x and SNES on a 486DX4 running DOS, way back in the day and the games ran well.
These are rather amazing machines for the time. its a shame the 2000 model can't play retro games. I've done a video on the 2120 that I believe is the next model. And it was a far better performer also supporting Windows 98 and good midi!
Toshiba made really good laptops, too bad they sold off their laptop business to Sharp. At least they’re keeping the Dynabook line in production.
I have to refute you on this one. I worked in a computer store, I had hands on experience with all of the cheap laptops, and Toshiba made the worst of the worst laptops. The case would flex so much that the screws would fall out. Without the support of the screws, the case the hinge attached to would break apart. The letters would wear off the keys, touchpads would have a copper hole in the middle, DC jacks would fail but not break, or they would work but the plastic holding it in place would break. I fixed several with epoxy for customers who didn't want to pay for all new plastic panels. The heavy touchscreens of the time made the problem worse.
I have actually seen Dynabooks in person, my workplace mistakenly bought a few A50's a couple years ago. They are a blast from the past, and not in a good way. Huge thick bezels, CD-ROM, swappable battery, flexy keyboard, barrel connector, but miserable hollow feeling plastic with a rough finish. Just a continuation of the C series. They are branded as Dynabook Inc. on the bottom with no mention of Toshiba, Sharp, or Foxconn. It's probably the worst laptop on sale today, maybe the better models are better.
You gotta look sharp
@@compaqdeskpro5770you probably had the cheap Toshiba Dynabook models, not the durable ones with high specs! When I was in college, decades ago those Toshiba laptops were good built quality, I had a classmate that ran FPS games like unreal tournament and Quake 3, it ran smooth from the CD rom drive! The later Dynabook models were probably terrible that Toshiba sold off their computer division since they mismanaged the company!
@@mikelemire5708 Sharp make the OEM for the laptop screens.
This machine is just a good dream! I saw one only once, on the lap of a big boss of ERICSSON in Brazil back there in the 2000s. I am quite sure he didn't buy that in Brazil. I got shocked when I fist saw this laptop. I was bothering the old man and my father told me to get lost. Hahaha. Late 90s, in Brazil, TOSHIBA laptops were the dream of any computer enthusiast.
I like your videos, thanks for all moments and remenber memory .
Reminded me of the Sony Vaio 505 series (1998-04). Similar dimensions. I remember seeing a PIII one at school once during a demo/presentation and was absolutely enamored by its dimensions. was no Thinkpad X series of the time (which would be thicker and heavier, but also built better), but the color and dimensions were perfect/neat as heck.
quite curious how it would perform if you switch the XP to the optimized for performance, where it turns off many graphical features of the OS and frees up some memory...
Nice laptop design wise. Except for the small touchpad and the thick screen bezels on the sides, it still looks quite modern.
When it was for Toshiba, It was important. At Least Snappy Drivers Installer will be also important for XP.
My first laptop was a Toshiba in 2004, one of the CD something series, I loved it. For the time it was very capable. I wish I never sold it.
I had ordered one of these for the CEO of the company I worked for at the time with the expanded battery pack. It was truly an amazing sight to behold at that time.
This feels like a machine that would probably be much better on win98 especially for the time period
I still use one of these to run Heroes of Might & Magic 3 and some DOS apps.
You can get an 2" HD to CF adapter and replace the HD.
If you can't find the Windows 98 drivers - I think I still have a backup somewhere.
It might not be able to run Quake 3, but it's a heck of a sleek little thing for previous gen gaming. Bet it runs DOOM II and Duke3d pretty good. Quake 3 was the contemporary generation of gaming, but in reality this thing is specced out performance wise more like a mid 90s machine.
Interesting, never knew there was a 750MHz P3M-S tualatin, thought my Dell C400 with 866MHz was the slowest.
They had similarly thin Porteges around 2012-2013, quite the legacy
7:18 did not know there was a laptop peripheral named after the largest river in my country 😊
grabbing a USB 2.0 PCMCIA card off eBay is a cheap & worthwhile investment
I've played Quake 3 on older machines with slower processors and cards like the ATI Rage M1, Riva 128ZX SDR and it ran way better than this. I'm going to assume the CyberAladdin chipset had a significantly lower power draw than other offerings, not sure why else they would use it over 815GM otherwise.
I bought one of this some months ago, looking for a Windows 98 gaming laptop. You can find Windows 98 drivers for everything included video card and sound card, though no sound on pure DOS mode.
You shouldn't have replaced stock XP, it included some apps that make the keyboard shortcuts work, but most importantly, USB ports are not 1.1 but 2.0, but need their drivers to work.
Also the hard drive can be replaced by a CF card using a special adapter.
The video card shows weird artifacts on Direct3D games if image is stretched to fill the screen. Maintaining the black borders on resolutions lower than native 1024x768 seem to solve the problem.
An impressive laptop, I was shocked when it arrived. Il'll give it more love.
Oooh, Trident graphics. Your channel tickles all my member-berries. I had that Orinoco wifi card in college as well. Used it to do my senior project on hacking wifi by sniffing traffic and using statistical analysis to crack the wifi password. Good times.
I'm surprised Quake was so slow on it, I believe my PIII Toshiba with the same GPU runs it fine, though It's running either Windowcertainly
Hey Guess What I also have this unit as well as the Portege r100 with a RED Top, and still got it, as when it came to the place where I work that one of the co-workers said to me: "Since when you can afford a RED Laptop??", I responded it to him: "I Could and I did, now I am using - Peasant" Still got it after 12 years it is still operational, and still showing WiFi signal strong, But it is on WindowsXP, But I am happy I use it for my photo downing on the images from my camera, and I also obtain a Docking Port so I cannot with other devices without expanding it with an multi USB Port hub... Great Video
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I had a Toshiba Sattelite thingy from circa 2004 with an utterly useless fingerprint censor, a great keyboard, a usable trackpad, and the ability to run Korg Legacy instruments for live performance as a musician, It took some driver fu to get it happening, but did hundreds of gigs with Shiba before she (i genered her!) was replaced with an Apple thing. $0.02
This looks arguably more impressive and more practical than the original MacBook Air.
this thing is a thing as my 2021 aspire- good lord
I knew from the beginning that this looked similar to my laptop in thickness.
Funnily enough my laptop is a Dynabook too!
Just about 22 years newer though.
Very timeless machine, the same concept as most Laptops today. Just the perfect balance between usability and portability.
I never understood why even subnotebooks needed space-wasting dvd drives even into the late 2000's, since most people never used it anyway except for installing windows once.
I was given a Compaq V2000 from the same era and that plays Quake great. But it is thicker and has much more grunt.
I didn't hear "Hey everyone it's Colin, how's it going" at the beginning of the video and got thrown for a loop.
For a 20 yo laptop, the design still looks good, no thick bezels either.
Computers like this, are why by the mid to late 00's Netbooks became popular because they were priced really well vs. their performance, and premium subnotebooks fell out of favor.
I know you most likely won't read this, but I think the Dell Inspiron Mini series should get it's own video. I always liked the way those little netbooks looked. This video made me think that those little netbooks might be a good video topic!
It was today that I learned these laptops came from a class called PORtege, not PROtege after seeing ads for them for ages in print media and sales fliers.
Have you had a chance to play with that Sony laptop I sent you a while back through FG? I was amazed at how thin the base of the laptop was, considerably thinner than my modern laptop.
Is it a sony vaio pro?
i remember when it took like 30 minutes to move a CD to a flash drive and biggest flash drive wasn't even 1 gig at the time
@5:19 lol, yeah, I would if I could, but since I can't I won't.
I have a few old computers because of you :D
I was going to buy this exact same model here in Brazil for 10 bucks, but sadly the seller changed his mind. It would be a nice laptop to my collection.
My personal favorite in terms of both retro and thin laptops is the Compaq N410c. It measures 2.5-3cm and is capable of playing all the retro games we need, thanks to the ATI m6 chip inside. Games like Quake, Thief, and Half-Life work perfectly on this laptop. Additionally, you can even play native DOS games using the recent SBEMU tool, which enables DOS sound support for AC97 chips.
Those must have been super rare because there isn't even one list on Ebay. NOT ONE!
I am curious did you run Quake 3 at lower settings? Why put the texture detail to max?
Ah, I don't miss the days of having to set aside a good amount of time to install an OS. I now use a USB 3.1 thumb drive, and I don't ever sit around long enough to want to get up and do something else.
I forgot what year, but the Sharp MM10 & MM20 were amazingly thin
Please show the internals of these unique devices as well.
OH! Hey I have one of these! It's the Toshiba version, however mine sadly does not work at all. No signs of life whatsoever..
6:16 You almost maxed out everything UP and you wonder why it is laggy.
I still have mine (in storage), which was replaced after my original was stolen in the early 2000s. I distinctly recall playing alpha centauri, outpost 2, and age of empires on it at OK performance. The keyboard is usable but still better than apple laptops. I got a microdrive to CF adapter for it, and recall fiddling with OS installs with a USB floppy and PCMCIA USB2.0 card which greatly increased the CD speeds. Linux didn't like the video controller, and NetBSD didn't have full support for APM suspend callbacks for some of the built-in hardware. XP is probably the most usable choice, with the hardware over two decades old now...
"Thinnest laptop in the world..." Uhm... Mitsubishi Pedion? Less than 3/4" thick (18.5mm) in *1998.* It had a Pentium 233 MMX and ran Windows 95.
When the MacBook Air came out, _parts_ of it were thinner than the Pedion. But not all of it.
Got myself a Dell Insprion 8100 and 8200 for my mid 90s early 2000s gaming needs. Unfortunately it doesn't have a midi out so using a Roland sc-55 in dos is out of the question unless you know of a 9pin joystick midi out.
The Toshiba Portege 30xxCT is also only 2cm thick - but has a 2.5" drive.
I've got 2 restored, including LED-backlight. Nice machines! Unfortunately with an unusual cell size.
The term turn of the millennium makes me feel incredibly old
Irda ports remind me of Palm Pilot syncing days.
I’m never not impressed with the production quality on your videos.
Now we just wait for LGR to make a video on this.
Honestly, might be a good machine to run Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds on.
I had the solo 3350 by gateway and that was amazingly thin and I want to say that was around 2000 and it was only 1 inch thick total
where did you live, Idaho?
It would probably do alright if it stuck to lower res software acceleration, maybe a downgrade to WinME or 98SE for a good range of 90s games.