Your Guide to Negative Traits in Project Zomboid
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- Hello Survivor!
So this has been a long video in the making. In this video we are going through the negative traits in Project Zomboid and how some of them, can actually be positive for your build in both singleplayer and multiplayer.
This video is inspired by the works of Nurse, MrAtomicDuck, MadMavn, ThatGuyPredz, Spoodle, Retanaru and many more!
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Feel free to drop your thoughts in the comments below!
Time Stamps:
0:00 - 0:42 Intro
0:43 - 1:19 Sunday Driver
1:20 - 1:46 All Thumbs
1:47 - 2:35 Clumsy
2:36 - 3:39 Cowardly
3:40 - 4:00 Short Sighted
4:01 - 4:24 Slow Reader
4:25 - 4:40 Weak Stomach
4:41 - 4:58 Agoraphobic
4:59 - 5:40 Claustrophobic
5:41 - 6:05 Conspicuous
6:06 - 6:29 Disorganized
6:30 - 6:54 Hard of Hearing
6:55 - 7:15 Hearty Appetite
7:16 - 7:33 Pacifist
7:34 - 8:02 Prone to Illness
8:03 - 8:32 Sleepyhead
8:33 - 9:07 Smoker
9:08 - 9:32 Unlucky
9:33 - 10:04 Asthmatic
10:05 - 10:49 Fear of Blood
10:50 - 11:12 Feeble
11:13 - 11:33 High Thirst
11:34 - 11:49 - Out of Shape
11:50 - 12:40 Overweight
12:41 - 13:10 Restless Sleeper
13:11 - 13:26 Slow Healer
13:27 - 13:55 Slow Learner
13:56 - 14:16 Underweight
14:17 - 14:48 Illiterate
14:49 - 15:33 Thin Skinned
15:34 - 16:07 Obese
16:08 - 16:32 Unfit
16:33 - 17:15 Very Underweight
17:16 - 17:35 Weak
17:36 - 18:10 Deaf
18:11 - 18:27 Outro
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Deaf is a free trait if your speakers or headphones aren't working
hehe
i use it for my in school play through
I use it since I listen to CZcams while I play anyways
Also free if you're literally deaf
lol XD
You forget one thing about the deaf trait. Those who are already Deaf in real life can cash in on 12 free points on audio they can't even hear in the first place!
First ever potentially valid grounds for claiming that disabled or disadvantaged people somehow have it too good.
Hats off, man
Possibly an accident, but still absolutely awesome lmao
They should make a blind trait for blind people
@@alexbrestowski4131 there is a mod for that, it works exactly how you think
@@alexbrestowski4131 shut up, don't give them ideas, id have to try and play with it and we cant be having that lmfaoooo
i like how the game considered giving people who are actually deaf free points
Well, we agree.
Which is fair enough!
as a cancer survivor i like to take light stomach, sleepyhead, restless sleeper and must say, it's pretty relatable. it really gives you the feeling of being overly tired even when doing nothing.
i usually take the lucky trait cuz well, i'm still here and that's lucky.
This comment deserves all the hearts I can give. Congratulations on kicking the Big C ! Glad to see you here 😊
THIS IS HOW YOU LIVED!
can he beat goku tho?
@@SapiensGuyCan Goku beat cancer tho-
Oh wait he couldnt
@@YourAverageHuman426 well he did die to the heart virus that one time
Sunday Driver’s acceleration nerf can literally cause you to roll so slowly in grass that the infected can just walk up to your window and eat you
What kind of psychopath drives on grass? or touches it at all for that matter.
@@soulsearcher9620 probably when you go to the 3 lake house a mmillitary base or any place that need drive on grass
About Illiterate, bc I once played with it in a random run. And it gets worse. The most important issue is you can't get a generator running unless you have taken the electrician occupation. Not only does this mean not electricity, but also no gas stations. This means you will most likely end up in a cabin in the woods, using campfire to cook food and purify water. But then you realize most survivalist recipes are locked behind magazine recipes. You can't craft fishing rods, nor repair them. Most traps can't be made either, meaning you can only get them as loot, or if you find the vhs that gives you the recipe... BEFORE the power goes out since you need a tv to watch it.
It's still fun to play since it significantly changes the way you approach the game, and works great if you want to do some kind of scavenger run
Ok that seals it, prehistory sucked
I typically take illiterate when I make a combat focused character who probably won’t live long anyways
If you gotta choose one out of agoraphobic or claustrophobic go claustro. The main issue is sleep which is countered with large bedroom, sleeping in a car or booze/pills. Agora means the dude is contantly panicked outdoors, cant sleep in a car without meds and is really annoying. Sunday driver...."this is how you died"
My longest run I had Sunday driver. I regretted that choice for the entire playthrough. Towing broken cars off the road is a fucking nightmare.
@@DatGitGhaz try towing in reverse
So what just download become desensetized mod and it panic goes away
Incorrect. Agoraphobia is countered simply by zooming your screen in as it only counts visible tiles.
Claustrophobia works the opposite but it's much harder to make sure you are in the correct sized room Vs just zooming in haha
@@CP-zu5pi I didn't realise that with the zoom, might be worth testingout in the next build. I usually just sleep in a warehouse of something. Either way, the panic debuff reduces over time and negates the affects of either.
me when I watch this guide, nod at its thoughtful analysis of the traits, and go back to playing the character I modeled after myself for the 1000th time
hehe don't we all ;)
I'm already bad at hearing irl, basically the only situation where hard of hearing and deaf are free points. When I'm not home I always do safety spins and shove and whisper at doors to see if they rattle. I am extra careful in combat and back away to look behind me if the area is open.
Seems like this could be problematic in the workplace
I just hope that's a joke
Hahaha get rekt skrub
The first comment is genuinely a joke.
The subsequent two just seemed like a time saver for everyone involved.
I cannot stress this enough for new players, always pick conspicuous, especially if your doing a sneaky character. Because it make managing hordes so much easier. While sneaking with conspicuous you can pull a few zombies from the horde at a time and have a much safer experience killing zombies. On the flip side if you pick inconspicuous and try sneaking and killing a horde, by the time you alert 1 zombie the WHOLE horde is alert from you
I think you reversed the traits, but conspicuous is free points
Awful rationale. Conspicious and inconspicuous barely do anything at all, so conspicuous ends up being completely free points.
There’s actually an in-depth explaination video of Inconspicuous trait, which I assume was what you were actually referring to, so let me shorten it out for you, it’s a useless perk. It’s kinda like that Short Sighted situation where the trait doesn’t even do what it was described as, except for the foraging part, hence making Short Sighted negative trait a free point. On the contrary, an actual practically useful trait would be Graceful.
I pick inconspicious as it makes pulling easier. Zombies can't see you if you are not line of sight. High sneak, the sneak skill ovverides any buff/debuff or traits such as clumsy
@@phoenixj1985 inconspicuous and conspicuous effectively do nothing. they have no meaningful affect on gameplay at all. they do not affect the time it takes for zombies to spot you visually in any meaningful way, unless you're using a mod that changes either of them. ergo, you should always take conspicuous for the free points.
13:21 I once crashed my car and I fractured my skull. then the slow healer perk is a NIGHTMARE... it took like 3 months to heal. and a fractured skull gives you constant pain lvl 2 and injured lvl 2 (and injured lvl 2 also decreses carry wight -2) it was so so painfull. I went trough 30 packs of painkillers. I am a lootgoblin and I am glad I am... when I had like 40 packs of painkillers I was like I am never going to use them all. well I almost ran out.... Slowhealer is a good negative to take but a fractured skull is the worst. all other injuries are fixable and it doesnt matter if it takes 2 days or 4 days. when you are injured you should always take it slow and easy for a little while. even if you break a arm or something you can at least splint it. you cant splint a fractured skull. so TLDR DONT fracture your skull when you have slow healer its pure pain and almost better to restart haha
Quick tip: there is something you can do to speed up healing broken ribs and skulls! If you find comfrey and make it into a poultice, it'll cut the healing time of broken bones in half, although it'll need to be applied quite a few times. It also stacks with a splint for arms and legs for even faster healing on those parts.
odd given the skull is already mildly splinted at all times. i've had a fractured skull irl, twice for surgery, once as an injury, and experienced pain only for a few days, then afterward only if there was pressure. a broken bone doesn't hurt for the entire time it's broken. you don't have to splint for it to not hurt, as well. especially the skull. it might give you a constant headache at worst? i refused to take pain meds for mine. huge misunderstanding by the devs.
This exact scenario happened to me. Can relate, it really sucks.
Were you noticed by zombies more often, On account of....your brain hanging out of your head?
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It's always tough to find someone actually discussing the extra details, not as easily seen. Thanks for sharing the less known details and definitely looking forward to more.
I'm really happy you enjoyed the video!
Actually explains things, isn't annoying and has good info? I'm here for all this.
Perfect process to begin a project zomboid lecture.
1. Speed
2. Crush zombie with car
3. Swerve
4. Drift into your stop, because civil parking in a videogame is for nubs
5. Casual greeting, like he’s Obiwan Kenobi
6. Begin lecture
"This is not the way you want to drive... also, your car always looked like that"
Wish the fitness grind wasn’t so bad in PZ. Weak/Unfit isn’t unrecoverable, but past level 5 just don’t bother. Ambiguous survived literal years in his CDDA series and didn’t push past around level 7.
I swear it’s harder to get in shape in PZ than in actual real life.
Oh man, its you again! Haven't stumbled on your account for months.
Yeah, i hate fitness lol. I had 10× experience and it took like 15 exercise sessions to raise it from 3 to 4....gross.
Sorry for necroposting but I feel this is important: if you try to just grind out fitness in one Session you will have severe pain from exercise fatigue for multiple days because this game fucking sucks
@@froo5667 that's the truth hahaha.
I love how deaf people will always get 12 free extra points whenever they play the game
My go to negative traits:
1. Smoker
2.Thin skinned
3. Prone to illness
4. Weak stomach
5. Short sighted
6. Underweight
I play exclusively deaf on MP, besides having to worry about zombies sneaking up on you it's very worth it, becasu you can negate most of the drawback by walking with a friend
Hard of hearing decreases the perception circle, but not the radius. As long as you take cowardly, you can easily tell that a zombie is behind you just as easily as if you didn’t take hard of hearing
deaf is a free trait if you are splitscreening and only one can have the headphones
ur evil
I used to use your logic with sunday driver but found out its much easier to drive slower yourself than get stuck in 2 inch grass
I use a mod that adds hearing aids. So the "Hard of hearing" trait just means that I need to find a hearing aid and keep it well charged with batteries.
that sounds amazing XD
Hard of Hearing has always been a go to for my character since it’s kind of my self-insert in the game lol
Smoker is top tier trait since it can cure boredom and stress
not only is disorganized really bad, but on top of that you also kind of need the possitive organised trait, in my multiplayer games i became the inventory manager for my team because i was the only person with the organized trait so only i could use our storrage to it'f full potential.
now i always force my friends to pick the trait themselfs so they aren't depending on me to pack the trunk and boxes!^^
Sunday driver is a death trap, if you get bogged down off-road, sundary driver exacerbates the issue greatly.
Great video, thanks! A few notes for clarity:
*Clumsy* is the most unjustifiably described trait in PZ, so here's some justice: sound radius is not only irrelevant unless you're playing stealthy (which is a known noob-trap and not a solid survival strat), but it is also a positive, as most veterans tend to aggro everything and clear out the territory, so this sound radius increase is not hurtful at all. Trip chance is absolutely irrelevant, as it happens in three cases: 1) You run/sprint lounge fences, don't do this, it is easily preventable, literally just stop running and hold E, yes, it is going to be slower, but even with sprinters it is not an issue 2) If you ram zombies, don't do this also unless you know what you're doing and how to avoid tripping altogether, if you have to ram them all the time - your positioning is questionable 3) If zombies grab you after fence lounge, this is also very easily avoidable, don't try to kill zeds near fences/windows if you're not good at combat. Long story short: Clumsy is free points to anyone who considers themselves experienced at the game!
You don't get "desentetized" by killing zombies, you get less panic generation for each month you survived (it is supposed to be each day, but unless you're using a mod that fixes the bug it's a month).
*Cowardly* is very easy to manage, as any other panic traits like Fear of Blood. Beta-blockers are plenty even on worst loot settings, I never run out of them, *Cowardly* is free points the moment you find them or alcohol, which is like a day 1 objective.
*Adrenaline Junkie* is just junk. You can't take it together with *Cowardly, Agoraphobic* or *Claustrophobic* anymore anyway. Bonus to movement speed is irrelevant even with sprinters, as if you have to constantly run from hordes of sprinters - you're not playing correctly for sure.
*Short Sighted* from what I remember doesn't actually change your vision arc/fade at all and you only counter foraging debuff, but it is free AF points indeed.
*Conspicuous* is not just free points, it's a lowkey positive trait, as you WANT to aggro as much zombies for a faster clear and avoiding zombies is not that hard even with Clumsy + Conspicuous, though outside of some bizarre challenge runs you don't really want to avoid them anyway.
*Pacifist* is F tier if you're going to main Spears or Long Blades in late game, otherwise it is easily negated by XP multipliers from weapon skills. Taking +1 to Axes and a *Pacifist* still makes grinding Axe skill a quick process.
*Outdoorsman* is the most overrated trait in the game. Catching a cold is very hard even during winter, as all you need is just to wear warm clothing (which people already do even during summer, as there's tons of protection clothing to wear, so during winter you can wear even more stuff). Tree scratch chance is irrelevant. Either use "walk to" function and let your character walk through trees perfectly or just don't walk through forests wtf are you doing, you will get scratched even with this trait.
*Lucky* is literally one of the worst traits to take in the game. I won't go into detail, just find "the Lucky trait won't really help you find a Sledgehammer" thread on reddit and it explains in great detail, based on game code, why this trait has no real effect, even compared to Unlucky. Any personal testing is basically irrelevant to this, as unless you're testing it for thousands of times in the same loot areas the data pool is too small. Long story short: Lucky helps you find COMMON items more often and basically has no effect on finding rare stuff, plus the less loot you have in the world the worse Lucky works, which is very counter-productive, not what you expect.
*Fear of Blood* is free points. You don't need to wash yourself. Just smoke, as you said, but once you get to 2/4 stress moodle. That's it. You kill two rabbits in one shot. Only wash when you're going to stay at base/out of combat for a day+.
*Restless Sleeper* is way better than you expect. Loss of tiredness is definitely not 50% slower, it's closer to 20-30% in my testing. Yes, you will never be fully rested, but once you wake up you can take a sip of alcohol (either drink 1/4 or take a microsip if you're feeling cheesy) to negate the "woke up" penalty that prevents you from sleeping and continue your sleep. I'd argue it is an early game debuff and only feels bad when you can't find vitamins and coffee, but usually I find those in my first day or two on lowest loot settings. Also you can take both Wakeful and Restless Sleeper, they're not opposites. Wakeful and Sleepyhead are opposites.
*Thin-skinned* do not actually affect the chance that your clothing will be damaged by trees, both mod and wiki lies about this.
Almost disagree with everything you said after 2k hours in the game on PVP servers, i think from what you are saying that your are mainly a PVE player or you never went to the late late game on apocalypse difficulty.
@@dskpnk PVP meta is vastly different and it is also a niche playstyle, same as with sprinters, I have no idea why do you think my statements were universal, as this video is clearly focused on explaining things to newer players that usually play on vanilla difficulties or even easier ones. I feel like this is quite obvious, but feel free to correct me.
Though, if you have some things to share - glad to hear them!
Stealh was heavily nerfed at some point in this game and was OP early on because not only it was harder for them to notice you but all o the insta kill weapons like knifes got heavily nerfed too, making this build useless.
Me: (chooses sunday driver)
That small strip of dirt on the side of the road when I need to avoid a road block with a hoard behind me: *"Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste."*
One of guides where Thin-skin effect explained without misinformation. Nice work.
I find it extremely hard to play without one of the -phobic traits specifically because I hate managing a characters boredom stat. As a primarily nomadic kind of player. Carry weight management means a hell of a lot and having to dedicate several units of space just to keep my guy from being depressed is just horribly suboptimal when I could just negate the panic with a single bottle of booze or a box of beta blockers.
When you pick deaf but you dont have headphones or speakers so it doesnt matter (you have fantastic gaming skills)
Subscribed immediately at that hot hand-break turn. Absolute Lad.
Took a few tries but finally got it right haha. Thanks for Subbing!
My Dude
.... the South African runs rampant in you!!
Thanks for the tips tho!
I usually put Pacifist on my carpenter characters. Between the Carpenter profession and the Handy trait, they have XP boosts to Short Blunt and Maintinence, and they don't exactly need to be combat gods.
If you lose the overweight trait, you can then start earning fitness exp towards level 10. I believe it is the same for underweight though the more description for traits mod does not show it. Some of the information in the mod is incorrect but overall it is a great QoL mod. Great video
Edit: Endurance and fatigue are connected, therefore anything that increases one will increase the other. So sleepyhead, ashimatic and restless sleeper are pretty terrible choices especially if you are melee combat focused.
That's a good call! I might have missed that actually, I tried to not rely completely on the mod and did research outside of it as well but the internet is vast with its knowledge hehe😄
@@ProjectTweak no worries, it's a small thing and I only know this cause my friend was working out on a treadmill and was wondering why his fitness was capped while freshly spawned in with underweight. The info you have for thin skinned is one of the few times I've actually seen the correct info for it, so great work there.
I had no idea Hard of Hearing was considered as anything but essentially free points! I always play with HoH and have had zero issues if I stay vigilant (as you should). Then again I always play PZ while listening to podcasts and/or music so I rely almost exclusively on sight anyway and maybe shouldn't be the one to talk lol. I have tried a few runs on Deaf as well but that got too quiet for me so back to HoH it was. Perfect!
with high thirst i just take a cooking pot full of water 🤷
As far as I know, Sunday Driver can be bypassed via Cruise Control.
I always use Claustraphobic now. Being paniced means you won't get bored. Not getting bored means you won't get unhappy, not being uphappy is great. Great for those long days inside reading
Perks by tier list: I sleep
Perks by literally just making yourself: Real shit?
(One of my favorite negative trait mods is the neurodivergent traits, which allows me to give myself ADHD like I have in real life, which in reality is literally just a daily roll between 0.5x xp gain rate and 1.5x xp gain rate when you don't take Adderall which is added to the game, that negates the trait and makes it a flat 1.0x xp gain rate.)
Illiterate is a really good source of points in the short term run, but if its long term its gonna be pretty painful.
Superb video. Very well done and explained. Loved the timestamps too
Really glad you liked it!
something i seem to do all the time with pacifist is to pair it with fast learner. it takes 2 points but makes it so everything is free 30% faster learning with just 5% for melee skills
To anyone in the future reading this:
The percentages in those traits are multiplicative and the negatives apply later, so you end up with 97.5% xp, not 105%. The difference is still negligible enough to make Pacifist a free trait as long as you take fast learner with it.
Your reactions to each trait were hilarious. Nice video
Fantastic explanation! The only things I'd probably add is the noob-trap that Sunday Driver sets up if you get your car in a particularly sticky spot and can't get out (such as off-roading), and mentioning that either plumbing your sinks (generally with a ceiling of level 6 carpentry for stairs to the second floor) or foraging for lemongrass will allow a high-thirst, prone-to-illness, character to circumvent the negatives of the trait even further.
The only other feedback I can possibly give is to segment your video to solidify this as a guide to return to in a pinch, or provide timestamps. Excellent format and great voice to boot. Hope this channel takes off!
Thanks for the insights! Yeah I might add in some timestamps to make referencing a bit easier, I know it's a lot of quickfire info! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Small note: overweight permanently reduces max fitness by 1 and obese does by 2 with no way to overcome it. As underweight states "can not gain xp towards level 10 fitness" meaning you're capped at level 9. Same with obese, underweight, and very underweight. I don't think the last few levels matter much but they can't be gained with these traits
even if you lose/gain the weight to reach the 'normal', you can't get to level 10 fitness?
@brynnealeksandra7205 yes. It is a permanent lock out of that level of fitness when you take the traits.
@@richskov5040 thanks for answering; ya learn something new every day!
@@brynnealeksandra7205 that's not true, it's not permanent. Taking the traits is no different than gaining them in-game, except that you get points for it of course. And once you get your weight back to normal you'll be able to gain fitness XP at lvl 10
Why do I watch so many informative videos on games I don’t play?
Good content! Congrats and thx for the analysis.
3:13 ... You didn't mention in your video so I guess you didn't know, but Adrenaline Junkie got "nerfed"... kinda. Now it doesn't work with most of the "panic" negative traits besides Fear of Blood. So.... fact of the day I guess....
And I always take Clautrophobic... sleep in cars or a big floor is not too hard to manage.... but that heartbeat when you are panic.... when in combat, you hardly notices it. But when you are in a chill room, 2 months later in your fortified base... with that constant heartbeat... man do I hate the heartbeat sound
Sunday driver seems to wreck your torque too. Pulling trailers is awful and get stuck around 35mph currently. God forbid you hit a zomboid while hauling. Will almost if not completely stop your vehicle.
Sunday driver is a death trap, there is no situation in a car, where a sunday driver is making it out of any large group of zombies.
This was so helpful. I dindt know glasses could help short sighted!
PZ traits are either of three things:
Must haves in Character creation (Smoking for one negative with obvious reasons).
Not good, not bad, just some early to mid game related thing (Brawler or Brave as positives that fizzle out past early stages; Agora or Claustrophobic traits as by mid game, Panic reduction stat fully overwhelms the passive negative).
Absolute Useless or Outright death traps.
(Iliterate, without the mod that adds VHS tapes to remove it, is only for very short lived characters; Fast reader in SP, Sunday driver is a Big nono, only if you really a masochist, any of the traits that gives recipes or skills that anuone can read a book for...).
And then you have Deaf, where aside Alarms on cars or houses, it is essentialy just a matter of adjusting to the lack of sound, though it also kills the value of Mods like True Music.
To me, Negative traits that lack either a way to remove it, sideline it no matter how long you want to have your character living in that world, or are likely to hinder or Kill your character due to the issues they bring are usualy not worth picking unless you running a very specific RP or challenge and every spare point counts.
i always take high thirst, it is free points. I dont even have more than one water bottle in inventory and i only need to refil it like once a day. You need to have a backup waterbottle in your glovebox or somewhere on hand tho.
Great video! Would love to see a positive trait breakdown in this style
Glad you enjoyed the video! I'm tossing between doing a Tier list for the positive traits or this one but haven't decided yet
wow watching this video i almost assumed you were a big youtuber. good quality video keep it up
Thank you !
I do think that Sunday driver has a benefit in multiplayer when you were playing solely with friends cuz I found a lot of times you just end up having one person being the dedicated car guy and driver. So the Sunday driver ends up just being free points
deaf doesnt actualy affect the perception circle and is a god send in multiplayer cuz the only downside of it is not being able to hear house alarms but if ur with a friend who is withoud deaf he can just tell you that a house alarm went off
Thanks! Although i usually try to roleplay my survivors so i take traits more randomly. Although, Deaf is insane, since it actually deletes your 360 vision, i think even irl deaf people will struggle with this trait
My longest living character has the deaf trait, Im still new to the game but it made me much more aware of my surroundings. Got distracted due to my friend asking a question, looked away from my PC for a second and a zombie snuck up on me :(
0:04 General Kenobi
Cowardly + claustrophobic+ agoraphobic for a panic build
The one and only negative traits guide
Now we just need to have a blind debuff. You can't see anything in the game but your hearing got way better.
Also. Sunday driver can be a death sentence if you take your car into anywhere populated.
Ignoring cars is a classic noob trap in this game.
My brother and I started playing and he plays with the sound off so at one point he said “why don’t I just get deaf?? I have the sound off anyway” and now I tell him when stuff is happening and guide him and he gets the 10 points. But yes he’s a masochist
ngl i always play with hard of hearing sure it sucks from time to time not hearing when zombies knock on your door and eventually tear it down but its such a free trait once you get used to the muffled sounds and dont even get me started once you remove this trait you hear EVERYTHING literally no zombie can hide from you
great editing and infoo ty ty
Happy you liked it!
16:10 BRO THAT MUSIC 😭😭❤️❤️❤️
Battleblock Theater has the best music haha
Such a great video
one other thing about underweight is that it for some reason isnt mutually exclusive with the athletic positive trait. athletic sets your fitness to lvl 9 and increases your stamina, recovery speed, and movement speed, I find this trait extremely useful especially in the early game when good weapons are scarce and you wont have the skills to reliably one shot with them, and it's pretty much essential for surviving sprinters. taking underweight reduces fitness by one so it will reduce your fitness to 8 after you start causing you to lose athletic while still having spent those 8 points, unless you took either the fire officer or fitness instructor occupations to cancel out the debuff. you could of course grind that fitness level from 8 to 9, but that will likely take around a year atleast even with eating vegies and maxing out on the relevant excercises, which is far longer than most people are able to survive.
I played many, many, MANY times in West point using the Smoker trait. Every single time, cigarettes was abundant on Zombie corpses. My last attempt though... had to kill 2000 zombies before I found my first pack of ciggies. 27 days without a ciggie man....
Ouch, that's the worst
ви завжди можете знайти цигарки на заправках біля прилавку, там їх достатньо щоб ви могли жити щонайменше пів року
Had you played with more traits before? If you had would you consider making a similar video but with the mod?
I haven't played with the More Traits mod yet, but can definitely look into making one with it
10/10 vid, the more popular vids didnt take alot of this into mind (can u make positive traits?)
Thanks! The Positive Traits version should be released in the next day or two. There are a lot more Positives than negatives haha
Hi. You got a great voice and a good video format!!!!
Thank you!
All Thumbs is the bane of all traits for 2 points, I never take it and almost always take dexterous but for some reason on my current run with my buddy I didn't. It's so slow not having dexterous, especially while hauling metalworking loot from scraping cars, it makes me want to kms because it takes 1/4 of the day to scrap the cars and the rest to haul all of the mats into my vehicle, everything just feels so slow, and I feel especially dumb for taking lead foot (from the more traits mod) that has the same cost instead because it's only useful in the early game but now I'm never using it, and have to take my friend on every looting run because even having normal inventory management hurt.
Great Video Keep it up!!
Thanks!
Nice to see a fellow South African making PZ Vids. Cheers from JHB Boet!
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I think deaf its decent if your are not playing alone
A few things i want to point out,
I believe shortsighted only affects foraging which makes it a good trait
i dont think you can use cowardly with adrenaline junky but i believr you can pick army veteran to have the desensitised with it which should fully negate it (free pts basically)
Never take Sleepy head and Restless sleeper together. Your character will almost always be tired. Trust me, I've tried.
Does anybody else spend the first couple days filling every large container with clean water?
And then switch to leaving empty ones outside?
Big Picture: No idea, I chose "Anxiety Disorder" during character generation.
Short Term Picture: Hasn't hurt me yet
Slow Reader and High Thirst ARE NOT free points. Slow Reader is a massive annoyance early on and High Thirst is a PERMANENT moderate annoyance. Dont take perks that make your life annoying. You will understand it when you have to carry 3+ bottles of water with you and have to constantly refill them. Dont forget that you will get thirsty when overheated.
Obesse trait is almost free points for guns or short blades character. Guns comsume no stamina and short blades very little. Also obesse is lost after surviving for a week. Obesse pairs with Weak much better then Very Underweigth. Very Underweight + Weak = 80% less melee dmg.
I may be wrong but I’m pretty sure glasses only fix the foraging aspect of short sighted and not your actual view distance. Either way, I always take it.
It seems like it does affect view distance or rather, view distance fade and foraging as well. Either way though, it's such an easy trait to deal with haha
I usually base the traits off of myself to make the game more immersive.
You forgot that driving on grass or towing anything with Sunday driver is just agony
Hard of Hearing has been free points in all of my runs, it seems dangerous but I've never played as a result of it.
I've gotten the occasional close call by getting tunnelvision but if you stay aware and are confident in your ability to turn&push quickly.... Free points, it's a must have!
So what i was curious about is, whats your general selection of negative traits in a normal game? meaning, outside of specific challenges, what negatives do you basically always take? This was a great video to show the actual impact of the negative traits and you did mention several you think of as must haves, like smoker and high thirst, but I was curious if you just take them all together or make builds around specific clusters of negative traits that balance out well.
Skip to the bottom for the traits but read for brief explaination.
Well negative traits that could be worked around easily is underweight (a thing to note is that hunger bar and weight is separate so calories actually matter, so if you find any ice cream,cereal or any high calory food eat it), claustraphobic ( as long as you know map well and find big bedrooms also a good thing with this is that if you are indoors and are panicked you dont have boredom moodles so that could be a plus), prone to illness ( Just take outdoorsman trait to counter this), conspicuos (well once you are in a line of sight zombies, they will come at you anyway, pretty useful if you want to bait some zombies to kill them one by one anyway), Feeble ( If im not mistaken this reduces
strength? but strength are a lot easier to increase than fitness), Slow reader (slows reading speed but it doesnt really matter because you can speed up the game so you dont waste time irl well just keep track of time so you dont miss tv shows in first 8 days), Short sight ?Near sighted ( could be fixed easily by using glasses which you could customize your char with)
Basically
1.Near Sighted ( Wear glass)
2.Prone to illness (Take outdoorsman)
3.Conspicuos (Dont really matter )
4.Claustraphobic ( Big bedroom good)
5.Underweight ( Eat high calories food,weight and hunger is separate)
6.Feeble (Only take this if you know what you are doing)
Also you dont really want to take things that decrease fitness because those are harder to raise, whilst strength are easier to increase if you have the fitness. Others imo could still work but is either a time waster, hard to work around or is for a niche min maxing purposes. All in all its all about playstyles
Also take weak stomach
Only one I take usually is fear of blood. The others I take are from the more traits mod
for claustrophobic and agoraphobic, just pair it with smoker, smoking will calm your panic down
i've been okay so far
i think smoker works with any kind of phobias in game
Disorganized isn't that bad, just be ready to have a mess of a storage room
i've been playing since like 2021 and recently i've found that the most fun i have in pz w/o challenges is i like to run the more traits and schizo mod and what i do is i play as a fitness instructor genius who knows every recipe in the game and has damn-near maxed out strength & fitness but is an unlucky schizophrenic alcoholic depressed smoker with butterfingers. makes for interesting gameplay as you're insanely powerful but have to micromanage all your different bullshits.
General Kenobi
I took the smoking trait and it's pretty good 👍🏼 also I've never played this game
Worst part of Sunday Driver is you lose a ton of power when trying to tow. Makes towing some vehicles impossible.
Deaf multiplayer with a couple friends being your ears at all times...
Does adrenaline junkie work with agoraphobic? Free move speed?
Tbh single player I tend to just give myself a lot of points to work with.
Maybe cheating in a way, but if playing single player tbh prefer being a little thougher and likely to survive the start. And most of these negatives wouldn’t get you killed, just make it more tedious.
Haven’t played that much so that probably doesn’t help either. (Like 200h but also a decent chuck of that was testing mods)
What have been doing lately is buffing the shit out of xp gain. Like 4-10x buff, realise that’s a lot but it makes it possible to do a lot more early on and need to learn how to base build and stuff you can do with skills.
I also pick most of the positive traits in the game with like 100 free points, again might seem cheating but it is far from making you some sort of super man. So far died most times before week 2 even like that (though and such will help sure, but it still only takes 1 bite)
To counteract these massive buffs I came up with an idea though. I have set zombies to though so they are harder to kill. But also set the population to insane and changed the setting so it starts at 0.01 and scales to max at the end of the year. Basically you have 3 months before the zombies reach normal starting population (but are though) and from there it’s gonna be pretty crazy. But ideally by then you have a base with a pretty strong character. It would still be hard I bet though. (Just need to get there first XD)
I try conspicuous and they see me more far that normal. In close range not a problem, that doesn’t change a lot of normal zombie.
how can I see the % of debuffs when chosing a negative trait? I dont see it normally
You'll need the More Trait Descriptions Mod, it's in the description :)
10:50, just carry 83 bars of gold.
Easy