2022 Kawasaki KLR650 vs 2021 SUZUKI DR650, Which is Better for you?
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2022 Kawasaki KLR650 vs 2021 SUZIKI DR650, Which is Better for you? In this video we look at the 3 new models of the 2022 KLR650 from Kawasaki that was recently announced and compare that to the current Suzuki DR650. I have ridden a Second Gen KLR650 and own and ride a 2006 DR650 and have ridden other DR650's before so I have some experience with both bikes. I compare the specs of the KLR650 to the DR650 and talk about the differences and which bike I feel is best suited for what types of riding styles. #2022KLR650 #2021DR650 #midweightadventurebike #RidingintheOzarks
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro for New 2022 KLR 650
0:52 My Experience with the KLR65 and DR650
3:20 New KLR650 Models
4:05 The DR650 Model
4:25 Specs Comparison
8:07 Which Bike is Better for What Riding Styles
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Which would you choose the KLR or the DR and why?
The DR. I like riding the dirt trails and bike camping, as well as riding the local country roads.
I'm on my second DR and love it. I also like the KLR but to me the DR is my choice, because it is and feels lighter. More capable off road, and easier maintenance.
Dr650 is enduro more Klr for me
Own a 2013 modded DR and love it. It's so capable off road and easy to work on.
KLR all day, never had an issue going from 95mph highways to single track trails for moto camping. The value is unbeatable.
I just got a 2020 DR650. sometimes you get which ever one you find a smokin good deal on
How much and where ? I’m
Looking for one
@@bpatinas1578 found mine for 5 grand on Craigslist
The KLR is an extra-heavy lump with needlessly complex, time-consuming maintenance. Doohickeys, over-bucket shim valve adjustments, and water cooling parts to maintain are all a waste of time. Would you rather be pulling your camshafts and wasting 10 days to order in the correct shims? Or would you rather be moto-camping in the mountains? Just sayin'... The DR is 100 pounds lighter, has more suspension, more ground clearance, and better brakes. Suit yourself, but for me the decision was a no-brainer.
Great video mate. I've just taken up dirt bike riding after 40 years (I'm 58 now) and I've just bought the DR 650. Absolutely love it. Love getting into the mountains and on out back roads.
Well I don't feel so bad about it myself now!
@@RidingintheOzarks I sold my last bike (a DR) when I was 55. I have the urge again, real bad! I'm 63 now. And it's making me crazy! Another DR? KLR? V Strom 650? I would be mostly on the back roads. Nothing gnarly off road. Riding two up. Help! Wish I had the bucks for all three!
@@michaelhrivnak1719 they are all great bikes for different reasons. I would try ride them all and pick the one I can’t stop thinking about. I know Kawasaki has demo events and the new KLR is one of the demo bikes. Good luck and enjoy the ride!
I have been riding motorcycles since I was twelve, I am now sixty five. I raced motocross in the seventies and learned a lot about power to weight ratio. You can't go wrong with either the DR, or KLR, just depends what you are using your bike for. The DR, is more dirt worthy, and the KLR, is a SHTF World bike capable of bridging the gap between street and dirt. I personally own a 2012 KLR650, because my own needs today don't require a balls to the wall riding experience. I appreciate the no nonsense attitude of the KLR650, and it's ability to do exactly what I need it to do, which is get me to any where I want to go, in comfort, with a huge smile on my face every time. My friend just purchased a 2023 DR650, just so he can go riding with me. He's even selling his just recently purchased Harley, because it doesn't serve his needs in the real world. Kawasaki let's the good times roll, and so does the Suzuki DR650.
I own a gen 2 KLR. The reason is simple. I have a Kawasaki dealer less than 5 miles from my house in Nebraska, the nearest Suzuki dealer is over 100 miles away.
I am not even sure where the nearest Suzuki Dealer is but I think 80 miles
You should have grove the 100 miles!
@@donaldludwig7354 I am not sure how to "grove". I am sure the DR would grove better than my KLR.
"Grovin" where I'm from is where you blast thru an orchard with your gf on the back, snagging apples as your go :)
Im 57 and regularly rip a Honda CR500. My buddy is 65 and just got back into it after not riding dirt for over 35 years. He just bought a KTM250SX.
That is awesome
I just picked up the new KLR in the Sand color, with no ABS or electronic gadgets. Big win for Kawasaki. After putting 20k miles on a '15 Road Glide then a '16 Triumph Tiger 800xcx this simple KLR is just more enjoyable to ride. Its the most comfortable dirt/gravel/back road bike I ever had. EFI, digital display, LED lights are the only tech i wanted. Im an enduro guy now, and have my single track bike set up and didnt want to dual sport that. With the price of the KLR it was easy to have 2 bikes set up to cover everywhere I want to ride. Both load in the back of my pickup for trips to the desert also.
Started out on my dads dr650 which I found to be a more exciting riding experience and much easier maneuver. Last year I bought a Klr 650, definitely not as zippy but it’s way more comfortable and really love how low maintenance it is overall both are good bikes
I have owned them both, overall the DR was a more fun bike to ride in town and on the dirt, the KLR was the best for getting to the dirt on the highway, but as I do more pavement riding in town for short trips the DR was always my go to bike, the KLR was best for extended touring
U R a good advisor . Good on you , Mate . Am going for KLR . Thanx a heaps again , Mate .
Great comparison video. Found it very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Just got back into riding after a 25 year hiatus at 46 years old. Just picked up a DRZ400 and will be adding the new KLR650 when available. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Hey Chris, I took a 10 year break of riding, bought a used DRZ400S, then desired something more comfortable, bigger tank, less buzzy and bought the 2022 KLR 650 Adventure model. Thought it was funny we are pretty much the same age and did the same exact thing on choice of bikes to ride. Coming from Sacramento, CA ride it like your running away from your ex.
I have a 23 KLR Adventure. Ride it throughout the week to work, 57miles each day. All pavement on the way in and 50/50 pavement/ non maintained dirt roads and statelands on the way home. I find it more comfortable than the Africa Twin I previously had. With a 6.1 gallon tank, 56mpg, great wind protection, great stock luggage, no problems at 75mph, and simple fuel injection. No complaints
Excellent evaluations
Thanks!
Used DR and then a BUNCH of mods was my route of choice, and I'm happy I did
If I went KLR, might as well go all the way to the T700 or similar, and I'd lose the simplicity and numerous customization options the DR provides. Still kept our R1200GSA for lighter dirt roads and long camping trips, but the DR650 has been a gem for everything else
Great comparison Mate.
Thanks!
Great video looking at both..been wanting a KLR since the 90s I was in the Army for a few years they had a bunch floating around..I like the old model better as looks go
Thanks!
Great Vid, Thanks & SUBSCRIBED!
*YOU NAILED IT.* It's about what's best for the rider. You KNOW I'm a DR guy, but it's because I like the dirt. Instead of a 50/50 bike, I consider these 60/40 bikes. The DR is 60% dirt and the KLR is 60% black top. I think the KLR is a nice bike; I ride with a guy who is "all about" the KLR. But for me, if I'm going to be on the road, I'd go with a road bike. I'm glad I already have a dual sport because, like you said, they're sought after. Look on Craigslist. You can buy any road bike all day long, for a song. For a dirt/dual sport bike they want your eye teeth, when you can find them. Oh yeah... I'm a dirt guy and I'm almost 60, and I ride with a guy who's almost 70. You're still a pup, bro. 😉
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Five Star video!
Did you see Firecrackers video this morning yet? I found her a DR200!
@@RidingintheOzarks I just saw it. Y'all are gonna have some fun on the trails. Thanks.👍
I currently ride a Yamaha Super Tenere, but at 600lbs wet, I don't try off roading anymore. I now have Michelin road 5 tires on it. The KLR is an interesting option. Tks for the video...👍😺
Your channel is actually the first I've heard of Kawi fixing the "doohickey" and frame ...that's good!
Glad I had something of value for you in the video, I do try and do my homework on topics!
60 and after a 30 year gap I bought a 500cc road bike and have been researching 500 to 650 adventure bikes and today we ordered the KLR each for when there available in outback Australia.
One of the many good options for me was the KLR has a cargo rack because at 60 we don't want to have a backpack on for a couple of hours at a time.
There is all sorts of luggage options for the DR. and also larger gas tanks. but if you are going to run a lot of electrical on it change all the bulbs to Led, I found it necessary when I added heated grips, and extra lights. solved the problem, the KLR is a great bike but a bit on the heavy side and very hard to get at least hear in Canada. People who ordered one when they first came out are still waiting, while I am riding my DR650 with the Suzuki rear tack, and 46 liter top box. Another great bike to look at is the KTM 390 Adventure I have the Trekker 33/46 hade bags on it and it is also a great bike, just lacking ground clearance but the suspension more than make up for it. The KTM 390 has 44 horse power and 37 Nm of torque. and if you ring its neck it will get up and go. They remap it after the first oil change that is when you feel the get up and go of it.
heck yes Mike !!!! great options right there!!! id take either !!! just wanted my BRP . enjoy the night
Thanks, I saw the new 650 congrats! We will be doing more dual sport stuff this year too. @Firecrackeron2wheels just got a 2007 DR200 a few days before Easter.
@@RidingintheOzarks if you guys ever head north ill meet up with you ill go check out firecracker right now
Great vid! I ride a heavily moded DR with proper susp and the other usual farkles. I wouldn't dream of a heavier bike for my riding habits. Forest paths, narrow fireroads and such are a delicious piece of cake with the Doc. I'm 65 years old and I can't see myself turning a Tenere or even KLR around at a tight sport or pickin' them up in muddy circumstances. With a longish secondary gearing DR's not a bad tourer either, but of course it's an attitude issue.
Thanks, really glad you liked the video. Guys like you inspire that i will keep riding for many more years!
Tanks for this gracias
Your Welcome
Good video Mike
Thank you!
I think I would choose the KLR because I would travel pretty far to do some off road riding. TN & NC have plenty of places for me to ride to. Great comparisons 🤘🤙
Good choice for a good reason brother!
glad to see the posts from other dirt ridin 'dinos' :) Mike has given you the ONLY advice worth taking, ride them ALL then pick the one you like:) Me, for instance, on PAPER, the DR is better suited for 80/20 in the DIRT direction, BUT, IRL, the seating position and layout doesn't suit my body frame at all, to the point that it gets darned uncomfortable relatively quick. OTOH, I rode one of my KLR's from Arkansas to Sturgis and back, and while it was humorous as hell to see several groups of Harley jockeys laying in the grass on the side of the roads in the Dakota badlands (resting their guts which 'felt like they were tearing loose!' (their words, not mine as those are some bumpy ass roads thru there), trying to keep the klr in one lane while being blasted by the tractor/trailer rigs flying by at 80 plus mph ( I guess "speed limit" is not part of the Nebraska lexicon) was NO FUN AT ALL, and on several occasions, almost life threatening with the drop off road shoulders, and REALLY close, road side barb wire fences....). Hard to imagine how I'd of felt if on the DR :( One last thing, if you REALLY want to go ANYWHERE, AND make it back:), then the KLR is probably your bike as no matter where in the country you want to go, or world for that matter, IF there is a local MCycle shop, he will be able to fix ANYTHING that goes wrong on your bike, pretty much without exception. ANYTHING else, well, "not so much" :)
Can't comment on the new KLR but I had a DR650 which I loved and the only off road stuff I did was On road (gravel that is). I did put some work into the DR, bigger pipe, bigger tank (only adds weight when you fill it up for the highway), rejeted the carb and opened up the airbox, the bike was a blast, light as a feather (compared to a friends KLR at least). I also lowered the bike about 2 inches with a combo of the built in Suzuki options for lowering and by making new dogbones for the rear linkage and sliding the forks up an inch at the front (I have a 29" inseam and I'm in my 70's and don't ride "real" dirt stuff anyways). I found I was spending most of my time on pavement so traded it off on a V-Strom but did love that DR on anything other than long highway rides.
Awesome
Just flew down to Oklahoma last weekend to purchase a great example of a modified DR650 and ride it 900 miles back to Wisconsin. So far I love it! DR must be modified before it can be comfortably ridden, but it's well worth it.
Congrats on your DR, mine is mostly stock but I started doing mods this spring to set up to be a little more The way I want it. My seat is on back order though 😞
@@RidingintheOzarks I'm going to assume you're waiting on the seat concepts seat. That's what I have and it is amazing.
I had a KLR for two years and sold it to buy a brand new DR. So these are my pros and cons of both
KLR
Much more comfortable seat especially for the passanger
The head lights are just great
And the fuel capacity makes a big diference (remind that they don't have a fuel indicator)
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It's heavier
The front brake I didn't like how it felt (maybe because I never change the factory tires)
I don't like how it looks at all. Remaind me like power ranger bike
DR
Much more ligther, it feels like a 250cc bike
The torke it's insane
The brakes work better than the KLR
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The seat it's horrible, if you have to ride for more than one hour say goodbye to your booty
But whatever is your decision, they are great bikes, very well made and reliable !
Thanks I just installed my seat concepts seat 😎
Which model dr are you talking about?
Have ridden for over 4 hours on the DR stock seat, just stand up once in a while for a stretch, but also did that on my KLR just not as often. But do notice it when I get off my KTM 390 Adventure on to the DR then start thinking about a seat concept, might be better for two up riding as well. One bonus is with the skinny seat and no back rest the ladies do snuggle up closer and do not move around as much.
For me the DR650. I have had 2 of these and absolutely love them. I am due to have a hip replacement operation and I will buy a new DR650 when I recover and I hope Suzuki do not change it.
I'm 68 and just got a new klr...been riding street/dirt for 50 years. Nothing keeping me down and I will have my fun. Get out and ride!!!
KLR.
1: I can’t reach the ground on a DR
2: I ride mostly on the road
3: My “off road” consists of logging, gravel, and fire roads.
4: Integrated luggage, charging ports, and accessory lights.
5: Fuel capacity
Great Reason's! Thanks for watching!
I'm a DR guy, but I think you have the perfect bike for you. It sounds like it "just fits."
I'm really considering selling the 2021 DR650 to buy the KLR. I have decided I want to go do the smokey mountain 500 among other rides and camp, etc. Rather than outfit my bike, I think I can sell it for almost what I paid and then go get the 650 ADV model.
I hope you get what you want for it, both bikes are great options, I have seen a few videos wit ha few complaints about the new KLR not that it is out but most could be fixed pretty easily with a few aftermarket upgrades.
The 6 gallon tank can't be beat.
Just did that and no regret at all
I’d take the Suzuki. I haven’t ridden in the dirt in over twenty years I used to love it. Guys in their 70 don’t heal fast.
I love my DR.
You're dang right they don't!!! 😨 Once you check into your 50's that "quick healing" and "good bouncing" is out the window, bro. It turns into a big "thud", then you lay there for a while and take an inventory of all muscles and bones.
@@kentuckyjustice1408 so your saying I got 4 more months and I am done bouncing?
@@RidingintheOzarks Lol! I'm 52, and this bumble don't bounce like he used too. I have a Dr650 and don't plan on ever getting rid of it. 2 years ago I rode it from Northwestern PA to West Virginia; 342 mile round trip in one day. Either the bike or my a$$ wasn't made for that.
Great comparison, saved me a lot of foot work, The KLR sounded promising until you compared the brakes.My apprehension for the DR has been the rider comfort for me at 6-1 @230, and long range riding in the Rockies, fuel stops are not so available. If Suzuki doesn't step up, perhaps I'll try and find a Tenere and leave the other two in the rear View Mirror....Thanks for a Great Vid!
A lot of riders add a acrebis large fuel tank for the range issue, there are foot peg lowering kits as well for tall riders. That said the Tenere appears to be a great machine, I haven’t got to ride one yet..,
I chose the Dr three years ago. The klr is great, but the Dr is much more fun for me even though my riding style of commuting, touring, and a little off road probably fits with the klr better. I've ridden my Dr 28,000 miles, across the US multiple times and it was my only form of transportation for six months. The catch is that you won't want to do that without at least a few modifications. Lower peg mounts, new seat, and handlebar are pretty much mandatory.
Awesome, love my DR, just got my GF a DR200
Thank you for this comment. Im moving from CT to NC, I need something good on gas for commuting to work and what not. Had a 2012 dr650 and loved it, sold it when it started looking tired. Looking at options in the same price range and seems like its still the best choice for all around . Even 11 years later.
Had bough the KLR and the DR. KLR is a great bike but will take the DR 650 over it but do need to install a larger gas tank which I did a 20 liter one, can get even bigger if you want. I find the DR much better off road and on the gnarly gravel and dirt roads. and as for highway, just as good if not better than the KLR, but you do not have wind protection, which I do not want, love the feel of wind on my chest, the KLR dose have a better seat but that is easy to change, and with stock seats the KLR better for two up riding for larger people. People complain about light bikes on the highway, I have ridden bough heavy and light bikes and will take the light bike over the heavy ones. Yes you do feel the effect of the wind more but you can get use to it very quickly just go out in some heavy winds and have fun. Hear on the island we have a lot of wind and has never stope me from heading out in fact I love riding in the wind. To me no wind and a windy day is like, a straight road compared to a curvy road. The more bends in the road the more fun the more wind the more fun. You also have to use your gut mussels to hold you up not your arms. gut mussels are much larger and stronger than your arm mussels, so use them. I can ride all day with no wind protection and not get tired, and can any one using there gut mussels instead of there arms. On the DR as well as my KTM 390 Adventure I changed tires before I put the bikes on the road, ( Dunlop TrailMax Mission ) great tires on paved, gravel, and gnarly dirt roads and off road except for deep mud, then you need good knobby off road tires. The DR650 is a true duel sport bike great off road and on road.
58 here, and 13 months ago I got a CRF250L Rally, after selling the XR600 in 2000 and only having a touring BMW R1100RT (and bicycle) since then. With a 100 km/h speed limit here, 250cc is plenty of power and comfort to do the road bit to the off-road (even if it's several hours worth), and it's a heck of a lot easier to manhandle and pick up if necessary.
We got my GF ar DR200 and she really enjoys it because it is so light.
Bought my DR in 17' to ride 127 miles of single tract in my back yard , still got it . I'm in my seventy's and all my old riding buddy's say I'm crazy . I say they wimped out but I probably shouldn't be in the mettle of nowhere by myself so adding taller gear and 19" front wheel ridding the fire roads now .
If I hadn't I probably be looking more closely at the KLR . May bee I'll paint it Lava Red' LOL .
I sure hope the new KLR's EFI is solid. I've been playing a game of cat and mouse with fueling issues on my '09 all season and I think I may need a timeout from carburetors.
Or you just need to learn to properly tune a carb
@@GratefulOverlander lmao
I own a DR and have ridden a second gen KLR. The Kawasaki feels more like an old school touring bike that could go off road if you need it to, while the Suzuki feels more like a (big and heavy) old school dirt bike that can be ridden on the highway when you need it to. I ride my DR to work 20 miles one way and ride dirt roads on the weekends. I feel like I could commute on the KLR easier because of the big gas tank. I think I could take it on most of the dirt/sand roads I take the Suzuki on, but I would go a good bit slower on them that I do with the DR.
I have owned a 2010 Kawasaki 650 Ninja, 2004 Honda VTX 1300 Classic and now the Awesome "LAVA" color 2022 KLR 560. So far, its a great bike for me for almost all street and pavement riding and just out cruising. No complaints so far.
I have been riding dr 650 since 2007. Bought a second dr650 2014. No problems. No need to work on. Only oil changes, chain and sprockets normal wear and tear no breakdowns. 2007dr 68000km. 2014dr 30000
I've had a KLR since 2007 (have two 2007s actually, one under construction and one that I ride). My KLR has been a reliable practical bike. I'd love to give up some weight but back in 2007 there were a fair amount of aftermarket parts for it. I'm 68 so weight is a big thing for me. I'd switch for a DR at this point but my stuff fits my KLR and I know how to fix most of its issues. Love the carb, simple electronics, big tank - hate the front forks, weak headlight. I'm less interested in testing myself on crazy trails (crashing, picking it up) so my KLR is a back road, fire road bike for the most part, but I still get in some funky stuff regularly. I do think the new KLR looks good, and is a good deal in a lot of ways. If I were to buy a new bike it would be a Honda Rally 300.
Thanks for the comment! Glad your still out there getting some riding done.
A bit of a correction at 7:54 they have still NOT fixed the doohickey. Just letting people know so that they know it's still something that needs to be addressed by the owner.
If you want highway and little off road , KLR. If you want off road with little pavement XR650R, yeah it’s older but blows both them away in the weight and hp dept. My Xr comes in around 300lbs and pumped up putting out near 70hp, no contest off road.
Great video I am 61 and need to go off road so DR 650 is best for the reasons you said. It is almost a hundred pounds lighter. By the way going off road at your age or mine is not a bad decision, you just need to take it a little easier. Once you stop doing the things you love(within reason), you may as well be dead....
I love my 17' DR. All my friends have the KLR. We all end up at the same destination. Both great bikes. However I highly prefer the DR. I'm 54 and I can tear up the dirt on the DR. Great video Brother.
Thank you!
Well said mate, Its not what you ride it why and as you said if you end up in the same place who cares how you did it.
@@dndadventures295 knees in the breeze. Ride what you love!
Just got the klr traveler,, so far I'm happy..when I take it around Lake superior in a month, that's my real test..Also, I had a drz 400,, it was fine...
Congrats on the KLR!
Yes please on your favorite 5 on KLR
I absolutely love my 2014 KLR650, I'm happy to see some of these new changes as well. Things I'm excited about:
-EFI and liquid cooled
-Fuel Gauge
-LED headlights
-The doohickey issue being fixed
-Very low competitive price
Things I am disappointed about:
-They kept the same 5 speed instead of upping to a 6 speed
-Getting rid of RPM gauge
-Heavier than previous gens
I think this will be an exciting release for Kawasaki and can't wait to see some new ones on the road!
I mean liquid cooling isn't a change, and EFI is a side grade
The doo-hickey was not fixed or even changed a little according to Kawasaki
As a 22 KLR rider I wouldn't mind a DRZ as well. Love the classic look.
I'm considering getting a KLR, because my V-Strom is getting a lot of miles on it and I would like to get something a little lighter. I won't be doing much off road, almost non maybe a little here and there because of my physical condition I just can't do it anymore. Sad because I absolutely love it. So I will be sticking to paved and gravel roads. I really like the DR but the larger fuel tank and fuel injection of the KLR are important factors to me. I buy used 95% of the time and often sacrifice a little of what I really want for a better. Not always a good idea, but I have never regretted a bike purchase I have made, except maybe the KTM that I just purchased a few months ago. It's already broke down with electrical issues. Thank goodness I have several other Japanese bikes to ride that I rarely have any problems with. I may very well be selling or trading this KTM for a Japanese bike. I think I learned my lesson.
Sorry to hear about the KTM sounds like the KLR Is a good option for your needs!
I just finished putting rm 250 forks, cr 500 shock, pumper carb, and a plastic tank on my 2019 dr. The thing is nearly as much fun as my ktm 525 in the dirt, even with my wife on the back. I was able to show her some mountain single track trail last weekend, the bike worked so well she was comfortable on a 60 mile ride down rocky mountain trails and dirt road. Only 17 miles were paved. I wish I had known the potential of the Dr 20 years ago. I like it more than my old 690, it handles better and feels lighter than my xr650l, and is easier on me than my xr650r. I've spent 40 years building suspension and engines for my bikes and never had results quite this good. It's stable at speed, good power everywhere, flawless suspension in all terrain. My only complaint is first gear is to high on rocky uphill trails with a passenger, but I really don't want to regear and lose the high fith gear. I'm tempted to carry 2 counter shaft sprockets on long trips. I've had a couple first generation klr 650s and they never were half this good. They felt flimsy and underpowered in comparison. Once I opened up the klr it got bad fuel mileage on the highway. My dr does everything very well.
The Bike is just so good all around it is hard to beat for me at least. Sounds like you have a great setup!
I'm 62 and still ride off road on a regular basis. I currently have both a 2017 KLR650 and a 2001 Yamaha XT225. Two totally different bikes for different kinds of riding. I have owned 3 KLR650s, and definitely prefer the first generation. I went back and fourth between the second generation KLR and the DR. I still don't know if I made the right choice. But I would never in a million years even consider a new 2022 KLR, because it has EFI. I ONLY ride carbureted bikes. So in this case, the DR650 wins hands down. If I were to buy a new 650 right now there would be no decision to make. DR650 all the way.
carbs suck
@@dank9288639 so says another who can't properly tune one lol
Same here man, I’m 51 & haven’t done any serious riding for 30 years
thanks for reading the spec sheet
Your welcome! Have a great day!
The KLR is now 460 pounds. About 100 more than the DR. I think I have a better chance of picking up the DR650 when I inevitably drop it off road.
Honestly, I was looking long and hard at the new KLR650... What completely turned me off from it was shim-style valve train adjustment that requires the camshafts and timing chain be removed. The DR uses Screw-type adjustment, so you don't need to totally take the engine apart. BUT, It's still Carb'd, and frankly, I don't want to deal with carbs anymore.
Well for my 60th birthday 2018 I bought a brand new Suzuki dr650 after not having a motorcycle for over 20 years. most of the miles I put on this motorcycle were off road on the dirt, that's the kind of motorcycle I want one that can take the dirt and take the road. Yeah probably not the best idea but some of the best fun I've had in years
Well at least I’m not alone!
As a Young Lad I enjoyed the Honda Shadows. Safety and being a new Dad, I sold the motorcycle. Now at 53 I am a new Owner of a KLR. Never been a dirt bike rider, but I love the idea of trail riding in National Forests. See you out there!
if you are a fan of driving more on the highway and a little on the ground, then it’s better to take, for example, Suzuki V-Strom, and if you like to drive 50/50 on the highway and often drive into the forest, mountains, passes, off-road, then I think it’s better then DR- 650. It is lighter than the KLR-650 and will be easier to lift or pull out of the mud. On off-road, the liquid cooling system is also not a plus, it is very easy to damage it and end up in a wild place where there is no communication and people. KLR-650 is a good bike, but it needs a more powerful motor. Therefore, I would choose the DR-650 and finalize it for travel. Put a big tank, a good seat, a windshield, arches, a luggage system and immediately go on a trip around the world :)))
I am fortunate to own 2 bikes - KTM 790 Adventure (S model, not R) and a 2008 Dr650 I've had since new. Over the years I've changed anything on the DR that made it suit my purpose better. So - windscreen, heated grips, pegz, rear and side racks, suspension tailered to my weight, 21 litre tank, big bore exhaust system and pumper carb (although i'd just work over the standard carb if I had my time again). The KLR would do the job well but I've simply no need to change from the DR (and KLR would be heavier and quite a bit slower than my DR). In Australia now though it's a moot point since it's now mandated that road registered new bikes for 2022 MUST have ABS - so the DR can no longer comply.
Man I love how the KLR is fuel injected, has leds, and for me ABS seems nice. But that poundage difference is wild
Yeah it’s big when you get off road especially!
I've had two gen I KLR's, the first one I rode from Phoenix to Ft Saint John and to Copper Canyon from Phoenix. I also rode it from San Antonio to Aspen, over several mountain passes. The only time the carb was an issue was Hagerman Pass (11,995 ft) between Fairplay and Basalt where it flat ran out of steam at the top. Was still moving though!
Both are great bikes I prefer the DR as I do more dirt but didn’t buy the Honda because it was horrible on the hwy but I could sleep easy at night with any on the three bikes
Both are great reliable bikes at affordable prices. I pick the KLR since being real with my type of riding im an hour+ away from any real dirt trails.
I don’t think either bike is superior. All bikes have good and bad points and are designed predominantly for something. This is why it’s good to get out there and ride everything you can. I’ll ride almost anything with 2 wheels, manual powered, internal combustion engine, battery, I don’t care. I’m still apprehensive on the electric stuff, but it’s the future. I just love exhaust notes and roaring engines. Great review Mike. I’d probably go for DR, but I can see the advantages of the KLR too.
Nice I really like the DR for my needs! Rode it on Easter...
Device to get out and ride the different bikes before you choose is a good idea, the best thing is right now which is good and bad, the reason these bait is good you could probably go buy an XR 650 L Dr. it around for a couple months and then sell it for what you bought it for as long as you don’t crash it because people really want them in the manufactures aren’t giving us enough. Same with the smaller bikes like the XT 250 NTW 200s, you could buy one used or new drive it around for a few months and probably sell it without much loss at all. Taylor would probably lose some money if you bought new because they’re ton of used out there and they haven’t changed much but you could probably pick up a used one and drive it for a couple months and then sell it and not lose much at all and then you really know what you’re dealing with and you have a time to put some miles on and it kind of sucks because they’re expensive you can’t find lotta cheap used ones but at the same time it’s really easy to turn them over and get your money back which is really cool if you want to change your mind later it’s not that big of a deal. That’s where I would lean off the DR, it’s pretty much the same bike as an XR 650 L but you’re gonna be able to sell your Honda quickly for a good price, the DR is not as well known and people aren’t out there looking for a ton of them so once you decide that’s what you want it’s pretty much the same thing as an XR 650 L and that would probably be a better bike to get a good used price on but if I can buy new I’m getting the XR 650 L I like it a little bit better but resell on it it’s gonna be super easy. People are selling them now for more than the dealers because they’re hard to get and if you’re patient I’m smart you can get one drive it for a few months and not lose any money, a new DR you’re probably not gonna get the same resell on it short term, But if you’re sure that’s what you want that’s probably gonna be a better option to buy a used bike because it’s gonna be cheaper than the Honda go on the killer are you gonna buy Cuz do you like it better or you want the faring And for it to be a little more street comfortable. Even a few years ago we didn’t have that option if you bought something new you took a pretty big loss trying to sell it used but no it’s gonna cost us more to buy them now it’s gonna be easier to get most of your money back which makes it really convenient to switch if you don’t like it
I’m glad you’re comparing it to the DR come out everybody else tries to compare it to a T7 Yamaha but they’re just different bikes. The Keylor is definitely more attend to an XR 650 L or a DR 650 it is water cold and has a little more faring to it a little more I am comfortable in the street. People don’t like the killer a lot of times but it’s a lot of them and people love them. Personally for the way I ride, I’m 54 I’d rather have a KLR 650 vanity seven. The T7‘s definitely a better bike much better engineered and even a little more dependable but it’s kind of a specific niche oriented performance bike. We’re kind of a demographic that people mess. Most of the new deal sports are race oriented they have a 2 x 4 for a seat they’re jacked up high they’re set up for jumping and the biggest problem is they miss the mid power options. The Yamaha XT 250 is a super easy baked on dependable easy to maintain cheap low maintenance intervals you can do the work yourself as a great by tone but it’s a 250 you get towards the top of the hill and you’re out of power if you got sand on that hill forget it you’re going to scramble and you’re pushing it up with your feet. , Where are the comfortable easy simple mid range bikes, if you weigh 290 pounds a 250 is gonna kind of suck if you’re gonna ride to people wholesome luggage it’s gonna suck so where do you go from there DRZ 400, not to dirtbike too uncomfortable And I drove an XL 600 for a long time and I loved it but 600s a little bit of a handful you give it a little too much gas and you’re not paying attention here and you’re gonna be holding on the handlebars and the rest of the bikes going to be flying 10 feet in front of you and you’ve lost it so you got to watch it. An XL 350 had a six speed so you got the extra gear the 350 had plenty of power to get you through the sanity the top of the hill carry some luggage and ride your 300 pound friend on the back up and down hills but it wasn’t crazy out of control power and they had a nice big cushy comfy seats. Give me a 1984 or 85 Honda XL 350 in electric start maybe fuel injection if you want and throw on a rear disc brake and that’s perfect bike for me a big comfy seat super easy on you can put all the miles you want on it super dependable super easy if you can adjust your own valves every couple of years you’re golden and can fix anything else on it they’re very simple tough low maintenance easy to ride but capable enough to make it worth writing. I love the XT 250 Yamaha but it’s the only thing out there going with a comfortable seat in an easy to own simple dual sport but it’s gutless. My next option up is going to be at CRF or Cadillacs 300 which are very uncomfortable tall dirt bike style motocross bikes and they’re still under powered it at 300 and you’re adding all this electronic crap I don’t wanna deal with just more crap to break that I’m not really ever going to use anyway the DRC 400 come up awesome bike great power but the DR 350 had a six speed transmission why did they put a five speed on it and why did they make it incredibly uncomfortable, the CRF 450 same thing with ridiculous electronics that have problems already and it’s 11 grand. They can make a Yamaha XT 350 like they used to have with the electric start and it will cost him a couple hundred bucks more and they fill a void that’s completely missing I’ve got the 250s that are comfortable easier on from there we pretty much got a jump up to a 650 either way. The killer Puts kind of a poor man’s easy adventure touring option with a bigger faring and it’s a good commuter and it’s comfortable not to put some miles on, but it’s not a T7 or an Africa twin but it’s still comfortable to ride and that’s cool but I kinda like the XR 650 L better but then again it’s big it’s tall and it still has a comfortable seat and they kept it simple so you can ride that thing 100,000 miles and never have to worry about it, it’s just a little much especially for people or shorter, I don’t really mind that she ate that much I’d rather have an XL 600 because it was a couple inches shorter and more comfortable but the XR 650 L is nice and has electric start and it’s got more pep but the killer is more comfortable and the faring is nice when you’re driving distance and still a single but they’ve done pretty good with the vibration isolation now so that’s kind of the running at the moment. If I need to go out and buy a new bike I’m looking at the XT 250 which I’m probably not gonna buy because it’s a little too godless or the killer 650 at the XT came out with a 350 or 400 kept it simple and comfortable that would be my choice or a Honda XR 400 L or 350 L like the old XL 350s. 84 and 85 XL 350s were just about perfect but for whatever reason the manufactures Keep cutting these lines out these middle run bikes and people love them and they sold great, I don’t know why they’re not making them. The kale are always what is a little more straight a bowl smooth or running it easier to drive it doesn’t have as much throttle as an XR 650 or a DR because it’s heavier but that’s nice for every day riding and commuting it’s still got enough to get you going but you never really have to think about it you just twist the throttle and go and your front wheel might come up a little but it’s not anything you really have to worry about, and XR 650 is a bit of a handful and you got to be a little more careful with it because you can’t get yourself into trouble if you’re not so I think that’s kind of the beauty of the killer but I’d still like something a little lighter and a little more on the dirt side but there are no options left in the middle, you’ve got the CRF and the Cadillacs which are kind of the same thing a dirtbike and they’re still not quite powerful enough they’re real close though and then you have the XT 250 which is super comfortable and easy but not quite enough guts you got the XR 650 which is awesome but still a little big and heavy end a little bit of extra power. The DRZ would be great if it was more comfortable and it performs very much like a DR 650 and an XR 650 L because it’s a little lighter but they made it really uncomfortable and those mid range bikes and the smaller bikes need the 6 feet on them. So I always keep coming back to the KL are 650 the XR 650 L or the XT 250 because there aren’t really any other options out there now for what people really want. The Cadillacs in the CRF people buy them I love them to brag about them and then they sit around and complain about how uncomfortable they are they complain about the electronics they complain about the service intervals the DRC 400 they complain about the five speed they complain about how uncomfortable it is, I just kind of missed the whole middle section of easy to own easy to ride comfortable bikes and though the KOR is bigger it’s also heavier so it kind of dropped back down in that category and I love it and it’s just about perfect but it’s still a little big and heavy and I sure as hell don’t wanna have to pick up that 400 and whatever pounds, I’m guessing an XT 350 would still be in the low 300s and you’re talking 100 pounds or more different when you’re trying to lift a bike plus faring and all that stuff is cool but there’s more stuff to break. But they design these bikes four skinny 150 pound racer or they designed them for adventure touring and high-performance that’s cool but I got a bulge disc he got too screwed up knees I don’t weigh 150 pounds and I don’t really care about the tack and all the extra crap to break that kind of leaves me with nothing in the new bikes, so I’m looking for a DR 350 SE because it has electric start but I have to do a bunch of grades on it the forks are mushy and they got a couple corky things in the gearbox it like to cause problems and it’s stupid A couple drops of red Loctite and a little tack weld and you can fix it but I’ve got a comfortable seat it’s wider it’s pretty much like the XT 350 or the XL 350 was but with the electric start and the forks are pretty mushy but you can fix those things and I’d rather have that than a DRC 400+ is got a six speed gearbox so I’ve got some more realistic gearing options. Other than that I like the Hondas better but kickstarts, yeah I get it it’s more dependable whatever but electric starts are just easier so give me a 1984 or 85 Honda XL 350 with an electric start and that’s a bike I can ride until I can’t ride anymore and then I’ll get a TW 200😂😂 they’re actually pretty capable and they’re slow little pigs but they’re a lot of fun and they’re low and they’re super easy to ride. But I still want a little more I want to 350 TW 303 50 would be pretty cool and I like the big tires on the smaller wheels and it being low but it’s still a little limiting so at the moment I’m kind of crossing my fingers that Yamaha will come out with an XT 350 but I’m not gonna hold my breath and I don’t know what happened to Honda, they’re all concentrated on the CRF line and I doubt they’re going to introduce anything other than the XR 650 L they’re not gonna be doing the 250s or 350s or 400 and Suzuki is apparently just gonna keep the DRZ that same forever Yamaha still making these type of bikes but only with the small engines so I’m keeping my fingers crossed the next T350 or 400 would be about perfect as long as I keep the six speed. Unfortunately the manufactures don’t really care about old riders on these bikes they’ve gotten rid of the mid range stuff and everything is designed for either someone who wants to race or wants high-performance like that or is a very small rider and is OK with the 250 and then that you got a buy a 650 because there are no other options on a comfortable simple easy bike.
i like them both . The DR would be easier to work on with it having a carb. and i like it being lighter. Best of all if you look long enough you could pick up a used one for half the price.
I am glad I got the DR for those reasons...
So, as always, the DR is lighter, simpler, better suspended, and is a better dirt bike than the KLR. As always, the KLR is better on-road than the DR. Which is better depends on what you are actually going to be using it for. I'd probably get the DR and put a bigger tank and better seat on it.
rode dirt from 1974 to 2005 stopped due to lack of friends and places to ride off road. From watching so many CZcams videos the last year I have gotten the it the to ride in the woods again. I looked into a few different bikes from a 300cc to the big Indian FTR and decided on a 2021 DR650. Actually called the dealer today because I put a deposit on one and wanted to know when delivery would be. They told me it has shipped .. so it shouldn’t be too long.
Congrats if you do FB, check out some of the DR650 groups lots of great knowledge I only had mine about a year now.
Man, nice I'm 67 I just put a deposit down on a 2022 KLR, never had one, I will now !
Nice Mark ... the KLR is also to big for my intentions. I was able to sit on one at a bike meet night here. They guy that owned it was the one that told me if he had to do it all over again he would have gotten a DR650 and I should look into one. So I spent a few days watching CZcams videos about them and that is how I came up to my decision. I have also joined 4 Facebook groups in my area that are Adventure Bike owners so I will have someone to ride with.
Just for the weight the DR. Long trips KLR would be best overall. Both would be fun!
I prefer the Suzuki DR650 myself. Better suspension & peppier engine. Amazingly reliable & easy to work on. #Suzuki
Our local dealer got 9 KLR’s in the cami 8K out the door. They had two of the base orang and 2 in desert tan. Personally I like carburetor’s and analog because it’s old school. Trying to talk myself out of getting one.
Go ride a DR, that might talk you out of it…
Can't really go wrong with either one.A thorough test ride on each should make up your mind for you.
Absolutely!
If you can find them both at the dealer
@@0ptimalgaming
Right.
If you buy new, the KLR will need changes to doohickey and thermo bob if you want it to last, so add that to your initial costs. The DR will likely need a new gas filter and a larger tank if you are going any distance and not wanting to carry extra gas. No major changes and no additional costs. But for me the most important difference is weight. The lighter the better even dealing with highways. It would take but two or 3 falls and the subsequent need to pick back up your bike before you will appreciate this factor.
No it does not that is a bunch of bs started by the same old man that sells his stupid trinkets......you can go 80K miles and never touch either
Got the 2022 KLR. Only about 70 miles so far. I purchased it for long distance riding, and felt that it would be more comfortable for that. Kinda wondering if the lighter DR might have fit my 5'10 body better. Started riding 50 years ago, so I figure I will get used to this real quick.
Hope you love it, I’m about 5’9” and I love my DR but if I was doing long distance I might look hard at the KLR
@@RidingintheOzarks I really feel unstable at 55 on the highway. Really weird. My 86 Shadow was the same way. Thought maybe it was me, but the couple Harleys I test drove were so smooth at 60. Really hope I can get comfortable on this.
@@trd4d wow I would have someone else rode it and see what they think…
Im 56 and i know that experience riding is what matters. I grew up riding dirt bikes and never rode on the road but been considering and doing a lot of research i.e. v- strom, cb 500x, klr, DR 650, Teneri 700 Yam, just consuming a lot of info...i work with men half my age riding street bikes can't do 20 pushups, run a half a mile, and have slow, slugish reflex and see them riding on the rode. Now not taking anything from experience but i run 20 to 25 miles, do pullups. Pushups, weight cleans, deadlift almost twice my bodyweight, i saying this thst it's not the age of the man but his HEALTH. If you 40 and breath hard to walk across wal- mart parking lot and street ride a motorcycle i don't think it would take me long too good at riding on the street...even if i was 75 yrs. old as long as my healt , reflex is still good..
That run is a week 20 25 miles..
Running 20-25 miles a week is great and good physical shape will help a lot if you ride off road but I don't think it makes as much of a difference to street riding unless you are doing long hauls with gas breaks only etc.. having a sharp mind and reflexes with do wonders to keep you safe on the street. Not knocking physical conditioning but 6 years ago i ran like that and it didn't make me any better rider than I was a year before that. Hope you find a bike you love and keep on riding! Thanks for watching!
@David Squibular I can actually do 236kg..Thanks...
I chose the DR over the KLR about11 Years ago and have never looked back. Since then, I have heavily modified the DR with suspension, exhaust and carb upgrades. Still have the DR, but just bought a KTM 890 Adventure!
I have no interest in a KLR and purchased new 2011 DR650 when getting back into motorcycling after a long hiatus. Your comment about never looking back at buying a KLR makes sense but the other comment about your DR being heavily modified and then buying a KTM 890 says it all. If DR650 is so wonderful then why does it need to be heavily modified? I have made modifications to my DR including new FCR pumper carb but decided investing anything more makes little sense. DR is what it is and I would describe it as nothing special and nothing horrible If you have more money in your pocket IMO it is more fun to ride than wrench. Throwing money and time at the DR to overcome its shortcomings and still ending up having a compromised and funky looking bike is a waste when it could've been better spent on better designed more modern bike. Not to mention the cringe factor from many DR owners installing kluged up mods that make it look like a rat bike. I would much rather purchase a bike properly designed with premium suspension, lighter weight frame, fuel injection, 6-speed gearbox, decent instrumentation, and wind protection. Unfortunately it seems seems only Yamaha is willing to take on KTM or BMW in this space at a reasonable price point. .
Subsequent to DR I have owned both VStrom 650 and now VStrom 1000. I like Suzuki's value for the money approach but appealing or listening exclusively to the old school El Cheapos of the world does not ensure their long-term viability. Suzuki needs to start investing money in new products that appeal to more affluent buyers or they wont exist 10 years from now.
@@kannermw I could not afford the KTM when I first purchased the DR. I added to it little by little and every modification made it a better bike than it was before. By the way far from a rat looking bike!
@@78Yamaha750 Still have my DR but knowing what I do now and what is now available on the market today I would go a different route.
For emissions reasons DR650 can no longer be sold in Europe or Australia. Time for Suzuki to get off their ass and stop milking the cash cow. Like I said they need to stop catering to El Cheapos of the world in large single bore dual sport market. Leave that to the 300 cc and below segment. The real money to be made is by luring the more affluent buyers away from KTM and BMW with a more mid-priced level bike in $8K-$9K price range. I want Japanese reliability, durability, and low cost of ownership. BMW or KTM have high performance and amazing tech but not the aforementioned predictable cost of ownership and reason I will stay away from them.
@@kannermw My DR is a 2004 and it’s getting pretty long in the tooth. Where I live now I have to write an hour on the pavement to get to any decent dirt riding so I needed something that was more comfortable on the road than the DR. I wanted and ordered a Yamaha T7 Tenere but they are not available.
The KTM was available and I had the cash. I am not disappointed but my wallet is thinner.
Getting back into riding after a 10 year hiatus, and currently trying to choose between these two bikes. Though everything I watch/read/hear points to the KLR being a better fit for me doing a majority of street riding, I just keep coming back to the DR for a few reasons. But simplicity is hands down the biggest. I like the idea of having an "armageddon bike" with absolutely no electronics. Lack of tech means it just works. And if it ever doesn't, it's guaranteed to be an easy fix. Hell I rebuilt a dirt bike engine solo at 12 years old, so I can certainly do it as an adult if I had to.
That said, I still consider the KLR because it's just damn cool. The gen 3 is stunning, and aside from the doohickey and thermobob crap (which I'm not entirely sure I believe the insane amount of hype over), the track record of the motor is just as good as the DR. Not to mention fuel injection is just as, if not more reliable than a carb these days. And the adventure model comes with everything I would ever want to upgrade either of them to anyway.
Decisions decisions...
Good luck both are great bikes!
Fuel Injection reliable? maybe if you carry a crank sensor, baro sensor, ECU and tools with you; oh, and if you are a seasoned mechanic to do the job; on the other hand, with a Carb, almost nothing can go wrong; if it starts and runs good, it will bring you back to point A; i do miss my 1978 and up KLRs; had 3 over the years, biggest problems were, first they all were not worth a dime on the highway or even roads, too slow and not stable due to the height, and second ,that damm counterbalance shaft chain always stretched and even sliping teeth, and a beatch to change, so i just kept on re-timing it,and lengthning the tensioner, lol (it's not drivable,not even for 100 ft, with the counterbalance shaft out of time,the vibration of the one 650 piston is just great, the bike moves around,or down the driveway, by itself, at idle.
Also that damm spark Ignitor (a 5 dollar part,today,for a chinese scooter...) cost me almost 300 dollars...in 1985...
@@josepeixoto3384 I'm a fan of carbs, both of my old bikes had them and it's part of why I praised the simplicity of the DR. But I also stand by EFI being reliable. I've simply never had an injector fail on anything I've ever driven. And if it came down to taking a trip where I was honestly worried that it might, I'd just carry a spare in my pack to swap out.
The biggest drawback to injection in my opinion more has to do with the power delivery. Carbs are just smoother, and people who think they aren't has just never driven or rode something carbed vs. injected back to back.
Anywho, all that said at this point I've pretty much removed the KLR from my list unless I could get one for a killer deal. But I won't be buying until next spring, and I suppose a lot can happen to change my mind before then lol.
Both great bikes but give me the fuel injected Kawasaki. Cold start and elevation change issues are eliminated. Thanks for the video Mike. How was your test ride on the Honda Rebel 1100?
Video Coming Saturday Morning!! I just finshed editing it and have make a Thumbnail and stuff, going to do a Premier Saturday mornig and maybe a livestream afterwards to answer any additional questions... and thank you for watching!
Same. I do high-altitude riding and the DR does not like the changes and the cold starts are a bit of a dice roll.
i seriously hope suzuki do what kawasaki did and upgrade the DR and even offer 3 models of the DR like kawasaki have done with the KLR. an adventure ready DR650 with efi, switchable abs, digital dash, bashplate, barkbusters and long range tank from the factory would be awesome. i would definitely choose the DR over the KLR then.
Suzuki is almost finished as a motorcycle manufacturer
I owned a KLR and now a 1996 DR 650, with a 790 kit, so a 366 lb DR with mid 50 hp, best dual sport out there
What kind of MPG's are you getting with the big bore?
What motor do you think will last longer ?
I would prefer the Suzuki 650, the Kawasaki KLR looks terrible. Now the new Kawasaki 300 cc. looks like a great bike and that might be the right bike for me.
I agree the KLR is a great bike
Having owned a 2nd Gen KLR650 for 2+ years now
I regret, every day, that I bought this thing. I wanted something more dual sporty, the KLR feels more like a road queen with aggressive dirt styling. I paid 4k for this bike and it's spent more time in the garage now than on the pavement, much less on dirt. Get a DR650, even if you're looking to be on pavement more often, the weight and height difference of the KLR is just uncomfortable at best and injury-inducing at worst.
-ESPECIALLY- with the brake difference between the two, the KLR has extremely soft braking, even after having rebuilt the discs, pads, lines, and master cylinder. It's come to close calls in the same street traffic that it should excel in.
The brozz250 got me back out. Also, I thought the drz400 would be my next bike but definitely will be getting the Kawasaki.
Keep the klr but a 6 gear model without any extra weight and hope that newly welded subframe doesn't break ...then bring on the tenere 700 challenge maybe twin cylinder... also the versys 400 edition easy upgraded with the 400motor they have...= Lots of sales...
Adventure riding for some is going places.
Not many gas stations in South America. None in the Atacama desert. For this type of Riding the KLR is the way to go.
What I'm wondering is how much more stable/less nervous the '22 KLR is on the road compared to the previous two generations. I know the swingarm/wheelbase is longer on the '22. I had a gen 1.
Well if I get a chance to ride one when they come out I will do a video the gen2 I rode seemed fine to me.
I bought both. Klr for road/ dr for both. All in all I like the dr more. But klr better when it’s cold out…
I bought a DR. 2020 new last month. Couldnt find one new OR used so I bit on the new one. Still not sure what my riding will be exactly, but it seemed more versatile and easier to work on in any case.
Awesome I am working on upgrades for mine now so it will be ready to roll thru the summer. going order that seat tonight!
@@RidingintheOzarks I bought a seat (Procycle) and a tank from a guy online, and put on lowered rear seat peg mounts and pivot pegs, but the weather's been lousy and I had registration issues too. Monday it's legal!
@@zero2sixty420 which seat did you go with in about pull trigger on seat concepts
@@RidingintheOzarks I bought a procycle seat
procycle.us/sites/default/files/images/products/procycle_seat.jpg bought it second hand. Haven't ridden on it yet though.
@@zero2sixty420 I’m going with seat concepts. Be interested to know how you like it over stock once you get it and try it out!
Dr > klr for EVERYTHING but long road rides. Klr could have blown it out of the water but they crapped it. I hope new dr kicks it up a notch
Now Triumph is going out a Tiger 660. I’m betting $ will be more like the tenere
At 47 I bought a duel sport without any dirt or adventure experience. Best thing I ever did.
I rode all Dirt before 20 and I am glad I am getting back into it.
@@RidingintheOzarks I have a royal Enfield Himalayan but once a 2022 KLR arrives in Colorado, I will be trading it on for one of those.
@@twotiretirade4624 nice I need learn more about the RE, I know they are pushing hard to become a globally recognized brand
@@RidingintheOzarks for my 2018 Himalayan, it shorted in reliability.
@@twotiretirade4624 Had reliability issues already?
Wow I have not looked at the updated specs on dual sport bikes for many years, It seems they only gotten heavier and have less power.
My last DS, was an XT600, had around 40 hp when dynoed at the wheel, and was around 315 lbs wet. (?).