Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road | Lex Fridman Podcast

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • Chris Tarbell is a former FBI special agent and cybercrime investigation specialist who brought down Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road, and Hector Monsegur (aka Sabu) of LulzSec and Anonymous. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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    0:00 - Introduction
    1:16 - Silk Road
    11:39 - Mass surveillance
    15:50 - Operation Onion Peeler
    21:06 - Hacker Avunit
    31:56 - Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road
    44:39 - Edward Snowden
    46:44 - NSA surveillance
    58:51 - Silk Road murders
    1:07:37 - Dark web
    1:11:39 - Ross Ulbricht's arrest
    1:19:37 - Aaron Swartz
    1:22:55 - Donald Trump and the Mar-a-Lago raid
    1:26:01 - Tech companies and censorship
    1:35:00 - War in Ukraine
    1:38:58 - Anonymous and LulzSec
    1:49:10 - FBI
    1:52:11 - Personal threats
    1:57:57 - Hector Monsegur a.k.a Sabu
    2:11:07 - Cyber attack threats against civilians
    2:27:55 - Most secure operating system
    2:31:44 - Cyber war
    2:39:38 - Advice for young people
    2:44:50 - FBI's credibility
    2:53:21 - Love
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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  Před rokem +334

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
    0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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    1:16 - Silk Road
    11:39 - Mass surveillance
    15:50 - Operation Onion Peeler
    21:06 - Hacker Avunit
    31:56 - Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road
    44:39 - Edward Snowden
    46:44 - NSA surveillance
    58:51 - Silk Road murders
    1:07:37 - Dark web
    1:11:39 - Ross Ulbricht's arrest
    1:19:37 - Aaron Swartz
    1:22:55 - Donald Trump and the Mar-a-Lago raid
    1:26:01 - Tech companies and censorship
    1:35:00 - War in Ukraine
    1:38:58 - Anonymous and LulzSec
    1:49:10 - FBI
    1:52:11 - Personal threats
    1:57:57 - Hector Monsegur a.k.a Sabu
    2:11:07 - Cyber attack threats against civilians
    2:27:55 - Most secure operating system
    2:31:44 - Cyber war
    2:39:38 - Advice for young people
    2:44:50 - FBI's credibility
    2:53:21 - Love

    • @kungfujoe2136
      @kungfujoe2136 Před rokem +1

      cop

    • @Dexthesaga
      @Dexthesaga Před rokem +16

      Lex, you have saved my life time and time again with your podcast along with your buddy Joe Rogan, I’ve learned so much, and have gained so much hope and inspiration to go on in life, whether that be in directions of new or full out mastery of my current status. When I was going through a difficult time, a few years ago, I stumbled upon an episode of JRE where I found you. Since then, I have educated myself, and consumed all of your content it was something I thought to be interesting, or many of your topics that I am indulged of enlightenment with. Apologies for the grammar, English isn’t as easy for me these days. Before having the para social relationship with you that I do now, I was on the verge of committing suicide due to an influx of daily life bullsht overwhelming my hard drive aka organics/brain. Even if the entertainment factor doesn’t always hit me with each of you, or guess I always learn some thing and end your episodes with a feeling of fulfillment, and hope for the future. You and Joe truly have changed and saved my life more than I can explain, in so many words. Sincerely, a lost toad looking for answers from the universe to understand the universe inside of myself if that makes any sense.

    • @trainwreck1827
      @trainwreck1827 Před rokem +3

      No mention about Carl Force? Disappoint.

    • @ladym2061
      @ladym2061 Před rokem +1

      💖

    • @knallow_
      @knallow_ Před rokem +2

      Great podcast as always Lex.

  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  Před rokem +2356

    As always, I really appreciate the comments here. I read them and learn from them. I hope to talk to other side, including Ross Ulbricht himself. If I make mistakes, I will improve. In general, I'll talk to everyone, with empathy & compassion. I'll be attacked for this, but I won't give up. Love you all.

    • @kinvert
      @kinvert Před rokem +142

      Will it be as easy to arrange an interview with Ross as it was with this guy?
      This guy actually violated the non aggression principle. Did Ross?
      The wrong person is locked up.
      Edit - Reserving criticism since I haven't been through the whole thing yet. But I feel sick, wondering if you'll push back on this guy and call him out for ruining lives. The state is the greatest violator of human rights. And I bet this guy feels totally entitled to do so.

    • @SecretMarsupial
      @SecretMarsupial Před rokem +28

      Thats what we appreciate about you Lex, love & respect.

    • @dagever7
      @dagever7 Před rokem +18

      You are cool, its just that the internet wont let this person have the easy way showing his face, with good reasons, no one has listened fully yet but it shows how much people dislike him

    • @boomcrypto8347
      @boomcrypto8347 Před rokem +38

      Lex. Even though we do not always agree on everything, I truly believe you are one of the most important podcasts on the air, in the world. I find you as fascinating as your guests. Thank you.

    • @schnitzelficker6093
      @schnitzelficker6093 Před rokem +37

      talk to ted kaczynski

  • @noname-zn4pp
    @noname-zn4pp Před rokem +4807

    The main takeaway from Lex interviewing people from CIA/FBI is that there is no such thing as a former CIA/FBI person.

    • @stellarwind1946
      @stellarwind1946 Před rokem +144

      55:11 Tarbell eyed him suspiciously. Awkward silence

    • @user-lj5wy6rx3h
      @user-lj5wy6rx3h Před rokem +280

      Also, Lex is one of them and is propped up by youtube.

    • @SunnyDayTeaFactory
      @SunnyDayTeaFactory Před rokem +168

      Mother should I trust the goverment?

    • @petefeltman
      @petefeltman Před rokem +73

      @@user-lj5wy6rx3h proof?

    • @yeedbottomtext7563
      @yeedbottomtext7563 Před rokem +166

      Yeah. Lex glows too. It’s obvious he’s in their circles. The dude is a canned intellectual and a grifter

  • @roverdover4449
    @roverdover4449 Před rokem +134

    The story about taking down Silk Road went right from getting the server files from Iceland to having DPR in custody. They skipped like, everything...

    • @mooninites755
      @mooninites755 Před 8 měsíci +64

      That's because everything they did in between was illegal and a violation of Ulbricht's rights

    • @cursed5359
      @cursed5359 Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@mooninites755 is there somewhere I can hear the actual story then?

    • @riffraff9070
      @riffraff9070 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@mooninites755welcome to the United States of America? First time visiting?

    • @thekkidd3d
      @thekkidd3d Před 3 měsíci

      Unfortunately​ @@cursed5359, you will probably never get an accounting that is untainted by the biases of one side or the other or both.
      There are much more thorough versions available though.

    • @iamthebroker
      @iamthebroker Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@mooninites755yep let’s focus on protecting the crims. You’re a George Floyd fan too I bet

  • @Musicliftsme
    @Musicliftsme Před rokem +65

    Lex, hearing you talk about getting hate online and it bothering you…compelled me to say, dude you’re a freaking gem of a human being. I know that so many others feel that way about you. You’re a real beacon in this place in time, with a big heart and the courage to let it shine. Keep doing you and stay true. The world needs you brotha 🌎❤️

  • @andreikulchik8280
    @andreikulchik8280 Před rokem +495

    Lex, a computer scientist, pretending not to know what an IP address is for the sake of clarification for the audience is hilarious 😂

    • @forthehomies7043
      @forthehomies7043 Před 9 měsíci +29

      A true interviewer

    • @muhsinsahindal8252
      @muhsinsahindal8252 Před 6 měsíci +18

      I laughed out loud when he pretended not to know what an IP address was, lex you fox 😂

    • @bigolboomerbelly4348
      @bigolboomerbelly4348 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I know right?

    • @jordishima
      @jordishima Před 6 měsíci +38

      He’s trying to throw Chris off the scent. Lex IS Avunit lmao

    • @68186
      @68186 Před 6 měsíci +2

      this is my first ever Lex podcast, I was so damn confused. Googled who his was and thought it had to be a joke!

  • @ChrisEckeard
    @ChrisEckeard Před rokem +490

    I love how the subject is that Snowden didn't follow the rules when he actually exposed the government were not following the rules.

    • @kreglfromworld
      @kreglfromworld Před rokem +58

      Not to mention he did bring up his ethical questions internally before leaking the documents publicly, after being unacknowledged.

    • @ChrisEckeard
      @ChrisEckeard Před rokem +16

      @@kreglfromworld his story has changed on that. It was originally that he tried to move it up the ladder but his latest stuff including with Stossel he spoke of why he did not go directly to superiors or a formal whistle blowing channel. Trying to understand the position and knowing how the system would rather disappear the "problem" than rectifing it.

    • @RedPillDiaries
      @RedPillDiaries Před rokem

      The same glaring hypocritically sick joke I was not surprised to hear him utter. We already know that just the CIA on its own have done so many evil things such as manufacture illegal war, MKUltra, and other crimes that overall, they do more bad than good, so are an entire waste of money and net negative as well as a net injustice for the people overall.
      Most of the 3 letter agencies seem to be burdens on the people that mostly hinder Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    • @weeep4652
      @weeep4652 Před rokem +1

      I know right

    • @baconation2637
      @baconation2637 Před rokem

      Snowden is kind of a weird case because he broke the rules to get access to the information he leaked. The things he leaked he didnt personally have access to, he had to trick coworkers into letting him use their accounts. He also didnt just expose the misconduct of the government, he leaked documents that were comparatively mundane but classified still. So they want to use that as a technicality to basically write off the loss that is this info becoming public but still lock him up because he did in fact break laws not associated with the whistle blowing.

  • @pepelapiu2004
    @pepelapiu2004 Před rokem +68

    Whenever we heard him explain that that was his job, that it was what he had to do, you just know he is basically going to the Nuremberg defense.

    • @Meloncholymadness
      @Meloncholymadness Před 3 měsíci +2

      The Nuremberg trials themselves were crazy and unfair, but yeah I get what you're saying

  • @BabakHamedani
    @BabakHamedani Před rokem +5

    One of the huge qualities I love about your videos other than its content and quality: is the fact I can go to any part of the video due to the good job chaptering the videos.

  • @youtubeviewer5363
    @youtubeviewer5363 Před rokem +718

    Silk Road was awesome, name brand medicine for 1/4th the price, saved my moms life multiple times, no thanks to the criminal organization known as our medical system. There are dark places all over the internet, Silk Road was no better, no worse. It was basically unfiltered, unmonitored, craigslist…

    • @anonymous108
      @anonymous108 Před rokem

      This fbi dude is the definition of a sheep, mindless and short sighted in his explanation.
      Using individual anecdotal experiences and refusing to acknowledge what was great on Silk Road.
      Perfect government slave, definitely would mindlessly follow orders…

    • @iluvyunie
      @iluvyunie Před rokem +3

      isn't it still up in some form anyway?

    • @davidfletcher369
      @davidfletcher369 Před rokem

      You make a solid point. Kinda ridiculous that big pharma still has people convinced that some drugs are evil while their opioids are safe, and a bargain at only four times the price.

    • @Ultamami
      @Ultamami Před rokem +8

      @Bill Gates Reading Mein Kamf *Mein Kampf

    • @DeleteLawz1984
      @DeleteLawz1984 Před rokem +2

      @@Ultamami hahahahahah

  • @casual1n
    @casual1n Před rokem +1361

    a podcast with Ross Ulbrich would be insane!

    • @tomtricker792
      @tomtricker792 Před rokem +7

      Yeah, he's the actual hero who changed the world. F*ck this class traitor.

    • @ddontyy
      @ddontyy Před rokem +34

      Hes in jail for life.

    • @Sayedelamin
      @Sayedelamin Před rokem +92

      From jail would be awesome too.

    • @timtags
      @timtags Před rokem +7

      It would have to be a phone call interview. I think he got life in prison. Didn't he?

    • @kbfootballu
      @kbfootballu Před rokem +14

      @@timtags 2 life sentences plus 20 years I believe

  • @benhefner2024
    @benhefner2024 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Wow I love the Amazing flow of dialogue back and forth , the small laughter agreements over tangents is really refreshing to see, like truely very old friends it’s awesome

  • @venus334
    @venus334 Před 4 měsíci +6

    One of My favorite episodes.. Love everything about it.
    The opening up at the end, dhamm.
    Lex knows how to make his guests feel welcomed & loved

  • @ac-gp3kz
    @ac-gp3kz Před rokem +915

    Ross Ulbricht should be freed from jail. He's done his time, his sentencing was ridiculous and didn't deter anyone from doing the exact same thing. I'd argue the DEA are more corrupt than Ross ever was.

    • @johnscott6481
      @johnscott6481 Před rokem +42

      He thought be had already killed people(ross). Don't let your desire for drug freedom make you think he was some swell freedom advocate. Yes.he was extorted, guess its your interior call on whether he is excused for passing torture and death sentences on those folks..he saw those as people as bugs,and it was time to squash.

    • @DoingFedTime
      @DoingFedTime Před rokem +43

      @@johnscott6481 He did'nt kill anyone. He got a life bid for drugs. They used his supposed "attempted murder charge" as leverage for his sentence, but never convicted him of murder for hire.

    • @pyroman590
      @pyroman590 Před rokem +59

      @@johnscott6481Big pharma has been convicted of killing tens of thousands in the name of profit and only has to pay a fine. Why is this any different?

    • @nonono9194
      @nonono9194 Před rokem +1

      They're genuine scum, think they have the right to tell people what they can or can't put in their bodies, scum

    • @adamgardener8624
      @adamgardener8624 Před rokem +8

      @@Morphings epstein didnt kill himself

  • @JohnDoe-wp1dq
    @JohnDoe-wp1dq Před rokem +610

    For a former government employee that wants total government control without any accountability he sure repeats "I'm not for big government" a lot.

    • @Whosyourdaddy21
      @Whosyourdaddy21 Před rokem +27

      That seems to be Republicans whole plat form. 😂😂😂 like I agree with some of the stuff your saying but those actions tell a different story

    • @PineappleBaconPizza
      @PineappleBaconPizza Před rokem

      @@Whosyourdaddy21 republicans and democrat politicians both want total government control, and they work together to accomplish that.

    • @Whosyourdaddy21
      @Whosyourdaddy21 Před rokem +5

      @@PineappleBaconPizza oh I 100% agree. I just get more annoyed by the republicans always talking about small government.

    • @Ultamami
      @Ultamami Před rokem +2

      @@Whosyourdaddy21 *platform

    • @Ultamami
      @Ultamami Před rokem

      @@Whosyourdaddy21 *you're

  • @jakelindsay522
    @jakelindsay522 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I love how everytime he gives a criminal tip, he makes it even more clear by announcing it “not to make a playbook”🤣 hysterical

  • @LA-rk2nh
    @LA-rk2nh Před 7 měsíci +3

    @lexfridman your channel popped up on my algorithm few months ago and I'm so glad.

  • @donny_doyle
    @donny_doyle Před rokem +323

    I work as a metal worker, welding, grinding, painting, etc, and wear protective gear 75% of my work day. This enables me to listen to Lex interviews in their entirety, and this was tremendous. 3 hours passed as if in a moment. Interview concludes, shut down the drill press, wash up a go home. Pretty good day, inspite of the frightening cyber apocalypse about to befall mankind! Lex + guest= good times... ✌🏻

    • @tyylit
      @tyylit Před rokem +4

      im jealous. id love to listen to good content while working.

    • @EducationalRenaissanceProject
      @EducationalRenaissanceProject Před rokem +5

      Holy shit that was 3 hours? I did not even notice. Nowaaaaayy

    • @romes3217
      @romes3217 Před rokem +14

      Also a metalworker and listen to 6-8hrs of podcasting a day. Going in depth on topics and long form conversation makes you realise how surface level the news and public opinion is on most things.

    • @samanthasmile7746
      @samanthasmile7746 Před rokem +3

      This may seem weird but don’t wear wireless AirPods because in order for both to work, one starts and the radiation etc has to go through your brain to get the other one to work. Either wear one at a time or go back to the earphones with the wire.

    • @samanthasmile7746
      @samanthasmile7746 Před rokem +5

      @@romes3217 I work outside and can also listen for hours at a time and I feel sometimes it’s tough to have conversations with the normie’s who don’t have a clue what this world is really about

  • @kylequinn1963
    @kylequinn1963 Před rokem +171

    "The FBI agent that put a kid in prison for two life sentences for making a website". What a hero.

    • @janus3555
      @janus3555 Před rokem +1

      I'm cool with it.

    • @thebandit9982
      @thebandit9982 Před 11 měsíci

      @@janus3555of course you are my boot licking friend

    • @rsautos
      @rsautos Před 11 měsíci +5

      think whole amount people the drugs affected or hurt.l

    • @Dj.Ray.Von.
      @Dj.Ray.Von. Před 10 měsíci

      ​​@@rsautos If they stopped the war on drugs, it would stop hurting ALOT of people. Think of the money spent trying to fight drugs that could have been used to help people fight drugs ! People have used drugs for far longer than when they started fighting against it... and people will continue to use drugs until the end of time whether others agree with it or not. It's just another way of forcing control on us. Most of the world's "elite" evidently take substances themselves, regularly. Stop bowing down to them, stop worrying about what others do with their lives and just be happy that you live such a perfect life that you don't feel the need to unwind or cope with substances...

    • @mattbenson2034
      @mattbenson2034 Před 9 měsíci +11

      The Silk Road days were truly the best time on the internet. Having said that, I don’t delude myself. Ross let his quest for power cloud his judgement. Couple that with every man’s weakness and it was only a matter of time. He legit tried to have a fictional person killed. I don’t agree with the sentence but let’s not pretend DPR was just a web designer lol

  • @Awwehness
    @Awwehness Před rokem +7

    3 million subscribers. well done Lex. good to see it happen to the right kind of people. love your work. toodeloos

  • @guenalojacque8449
    @guenalojacque8449 Před rokem

    Lex, thank you for your work. I really enjoy your podcast, the interviews and the way you’re doing them. I really believe you're a kind soul and your channel which I recently discovered, is one of the best on youtube. I'm really happy that I discovered you and just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate the work you do. Please keep up the good work and keep spreading love. It's what we need, more than ever in this world and you're contributing a great deal to it. All my best to you.

  • @Olderthanyoda420
    @Olderthanyoda420 Před rokem +880

    I wish there was a discussion about the corrupt FBI agents indicted with the Ross Ulbricht case. They got away with a slap on their hands whilst doing pretty horrible things.

    • @JacobWilson777
      @JacobWilson777 Před rokem +20

      What were they doing?

    • @dkexpat2755
      @dkexpat2755 Před rokem +13

      What kinds of things did they? Never heard about the FBI agents.

    • @RypticVODS
      @RypticVODS Před rokem +27

      @@dkexpat2755 "Barely Sociable" kind of glosses over some shit that they did, iirc. Great breakdown on his channel about the Silk Road, btw.

    • @jumpingbombangels2856
      @jumpingbombangels2856 Před rokem +52

      I don’t think either of them was actually an FBI agent, one was a DEA agent and the other worked for the secret service. But the DEA agent I believe was the lead undercover agent on the case yet Ross’ defense attorneys weren’t allowed to even mention it at trial.

    • @walterhartman
      @walterhartman Před rokem +40

      @@jumpingbombangels2856 Yep, The DEA guy was Carl Mark Force. Already released.

  • @Higgs666
    @Higgs666 Před rokem +297

    A while back, the FBI busted a CP distributer that was using Tor. The defense lawyer requested discovery on how his client was identified, and the FBI dropped all charges. They have a way around Tor and are totally unwilling to let the public know about it.

    • @kylequinn1963
      @kylequinn1963 Před rokem +62

      They probably just walked into the guys office since he was probably an FBI agent, they seem to love CP.

    • @duanejackson6718
      @duanejackson6718 Před rokem +39

      I'm sure the cia owns the TOR relays and servers and can follow the chain.... Who else could maintain the network.

    • @WAB2138
      @WAB2138 Před rokem +32

      It was called pegasus. Which the CIA uses today overseas so as you can imagine the FBI is using it to here in the United States we have to give Tim Cook accolades because of his lockdown mode which eliminated the Pegasus threat.

    • @MasterKaloryfer
      @MasterKaloryfer Před rokem +25

      @@duanejackson6718 volunteers, did you even consider making any research? I run relays, no profit, I do it, because I want to, lots of people like me run relays. You can run a relay too, it's not expensive, it's not very hard, and if they don't control enough nodes the whole effort is wasted. You can also use your own relay as entry into tor network and then blend your traffic with other traffic that you might relay through.

    • @duanejackson6718
      @duanejackson6718 Před rokem +10

      @@MasterKaloryfer well I'm glad you're volunteering to do noble work, but we're kidding ourselves if we don't think intelligence agencies aren't involved somehow with the flow of information. Then it seems likely they have some way of tracking the flow of information.

  • @rorypatterson7431
    @rorypatterson7431 Před 11 měsíci

    Lex, you speak of your heroes often and I appreciate that. I've had many heroes in my lifetime, but after discovering your podcast a few months ago, you have become my greatest hero. Thank you for everything you represent. You're an inspiration to many. Cheers!

  • @denniswilliams1513
    @denniswilliams1513 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you, lex, for all your content.
    It is absolutely necessary that we all engage more in conversation.

  • @thepatternforms859
    @thepatternforms859 Před rokem +465

    The harmful and immoral war on drugs should
    be ended

    • @alandoane9168
      @alandoane9168 Před rokem +10

      "A war on drugs is better than no drugs at all." - Kurt Vonnegut

    • @CA-ly7my
      @CA-ly7my Před rokem +3

      amen.

    • @thepatternforms859
      @thepatternforms859 Před rokem +5

      @@alandoane9168 haha agreed… first time hearing that quote. Thank you

    • @BigDaddyDru
      @BigDaddyDru Před rokem +1

      @Ivan bbbaaaaahhh bbbaaaaaahhhh

    • @waterman1561
      @waterman1561 Před rokem

      But it's just getting started....

  • @jordanrattanavong2655
    @jordanrattanavong2655 Před rokem +513

    Lex, please have Ross Ulbricht's mother on to give their side of the story. There's so much misinformation going around. Has been for years. She's a great speaker and will make a great guest.

  • @JackactionYoutube
    @JackactionYoutube Před rokem +9

    Lex really knows how to invoke emotions out of the people he interviews; shows the humanity within us all.
    Definitely got some tears out of me in the end as well.

  • @JakeThomasCreative
    @JakeThomasCreative Před rokem

    Thanks for another great conversation, Mr. Fridman. I have never experienced an interview style like yours. You actually take long pauses to think and allow people to respond in earnest. You allow your audience to sit in the discomfort of a complicated answer, and that is so valuable today in a media environment that wants to live in a black-and-white narrative so they can control the story.💚Thank you once again.

  • @skipfluck4299
    @skipfluck4299 Před rokem +255

    There are people who rape, torture, and murder, and get 20-30 years in prison. There are also people who repeatedly molesters children and get 5-10 years. Yet Ross ran a drug website and got life plus 40 years. Something is out of wack.🤔

    • @umadjelly1
      @umadjelly1 Před rokem +1

      The government Mafia must make a strong extreme examples against their competition otherwise other mafias will come in and take over their turf

    • @cryptospacexxxit6281
      @cryptospacexxxit6281 Před rokem

      Our corrupt government doesn't like competition.

    • @MasterKaloryfer
      @MasterKaloryfer Před rokem +30

      Judge said they want to make an example so others don't follow, clearly stupid approach and didn't even work as a deterrent. I truly hope Ross gets presidential pardon at some point, like I hope people will wake up (maybe it's stupid hope, but hope dies at the end), and vote someone who values freedom, privacy, and maybe someone more liberal could see an issue with that sentences. Like if he spent like 10 years in prison that's already soo much, 15 years, 20, but lifetime? Cruel and pointless.

    • @DoPrice
      @DoPrice Před rokem

      Yall conveniently forgot the dude ordered people killed 🤣

    • @goodcitizen7615
      @goodcitizen7615 Před rokem

      The war on drug's is a war on people! The federal government still has cannabis a schedule 1 drug which is totally absurd.

  • @doyourhomework7305
    @doyourhomework7305 Před rokem +879

    Free Ross Ulbricht. A martyr for freedom.

    • @arkology_city
      @arkology_city Před rokem +83

      Trump should have pardoned him, snowden, and assange. He really showed his true colors by refusing to.

    • @lanpartylandlord6123
      @lanpartylandlord6123 Před rokem +80

      i used to be pro freeing ross but he attempted to hire 2 hits on people out of greed.

    • @arkology_city
      @arkology_city Před rokem +38

      @@lanpartylandlord6123 This is fake news. He was never convicted on that charge.

    • @chrisg4305
      @chrisg4305 Před rokem +8

      @@Sanctifiers which is pretty sad. Regardless of one's view on the subject all Lex is doing is providing a dialogue.

    • @tomcat8662
      @tomcat8662 Před rokem +4

      Didn’t he order hitmen to kill some people?

  • @bahram_t
    @bahram_t Před 9 měsíci

    i love this interview. so fascinating. thank you sm Lex!

  • @AirfoilOne
    @AirfoilOne Před 7 měsíci +1

    Amazing interview, one of my favorite, for sure.

  • @aaronbazil
    @aaronbazil Před rokem +456

    Ah, Two FBI Agents having a conversation. This is gonna be fun 😀

    • @BitwiseMobile
      @BitwiseMobile Před rokem +46

      I think Lex would fit more with the CIA than FBI. He's the ultimate sleeper :D

    • @aaronbazil
      @aaronbazil Před rokem +12

      @@BitwiseMobile true. I don't even believe that's his actual personality if that's the case lmao

    • @rogerfederer1233
      @rogerfederer1233 Před rokem +15

      Please let lex be space force counter intel

    • @NapalmCracker
      @NapalmCracker Před rokem +11

      @@BitwiseMobile *KGB* lol.

    • @imnotincontrolitsathrowawa3646
      @imnotincontrolitsathrowawa3646 Před rokem +1

      I see two terrorists with sociopathy

  • @TripHop-
    @TripHop- Před rokem +464

    I like how whenever Lex asks him to steelman the other side, he says sure but just says some random stuff thats still defending his side lol

    • @BigDaddyDru
      @BigDaddyDru Před rokem +103

      What would you expect from a fed? If he had any intellectual integrity he wouldn’t be in the line of work he is in…

    • @annishenko
      @annishenko Před rokem +10

      I noticed that too, but he is so likeable and open, it didnt bother me too much

    • @therainman7777
      @therainman7777 Před rokem +2

      @@BigDaddyDru Wtf are you talking about? Are you like an edgy teenager who hates all authority figures or something? Do you really not understand why an organization like the FBI is necessary, and the ways in which they maintain order in a large and complex society? Grow up.

    • @therainman7777
      @therainman7777 Před rokem +59

      It’s very possible he doesn’t even know what the word “steel man” means-he is former law enforcement, not a philosopher.

    • @BigDaddyDru
      @BigDaddyDru Před rokem

      @@therainman7777 😂😂🤣🤣🙏🏽❤️🫂

  • @SeasiderPhil
    @SeasiderPhil Před rokem

    I like it how you kept eye contact from about 26mins when you were speaking about something you really are passionate to do I could see your determination to get the right answer off him😉 Seasider brother from another mother 🧡

  • @johnwilliamson1766
    @johnwilliamson1766 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Best pod I’ve seen for ages. Incapacitated 🎉

  • @christopherhall1216
    @christopherhall1216 Před rokem +683

    anytime someone says, "We had to do it". I get the sense they are justifying acts that they realize are immoral. Or at least self serving motives that they are attributing to a greater good.

    • @everythingplayfull
      @everythingplayfull Před rokem +5

      Can you time stamp that

    • @everythingplayfull
      @everythingplayfull Před rokem

      @@geesung4444 fuck are you talking about

    • @snook.1
      @snook.1 Před rokem +1

      "You could buy hits" this guy is either misinformed or an idiot.

    • @tuecheezonexiong3823
      @tuecheezonexiong3823 Před rokem +18

      We had to do it because we have circumstantial evidence of him sending hits on 6 people... I understand what you're saying but at the same time they "had to do it".

    • @garretloporto8676
      @garretloporto8676 Před rokem +26

      This guy could have gone after child organ harvesters but chose to go after Sabu, a optical hactivist?

  • @joeswanson401
    @joeswanson401 Před rokem +604

    Why do we enforce what adults put into their own bodies? Why do dealers get more prison time for simply running an illegal business than child molestors do?

    • @nebulous962
      @nebulous962 Před rokem +57

      For some reason it feels alot like someone trying to enforce their drug monopoly.

    • @aamodvarma2061
      @aamodvarma2061 Před rokem +29

      The argument would be that certain drugs, even if used by the individual themselves will not only harm them but the people around them. For instance people on cocaine and heroin cause disruption to their friends, family and the community around them. Obviously there are limits to how far you can take this, for instance drugs like weed don't even have any negative effects even when compared to legal stuff like alcohol. But then again, the stuff sold on Silk Road aren't just weed...

    • @artandculture5262
      @artandculture5262 Před rokem +2

      Trust in triple letter agencies is destroyed.

    • @SolomonRasputin
      @SolomonRasputin Před rokem +27

      @@aamodvarma2061 so how are opioids given out like candy then

    • @jt8251
      @jt8251 Před rokem +9

      The enforcement, for the most part, targets the manufacture and distribution of illicit substances, not the consumption. Those are where the big prison sentences are. No one is serving 10+ years for consuming illicit substances any longer. Yes, there was a time when heavy sentences were imposed on consumption, but not so much these days.

  • @CharlesCarter420
    @CharlesCarter420 Před 8 měsíci

    Lex, I have experience what you are speaking about at 1:33:00. You are one of my favorite people on this planet due to the fact that you approach things with an open heart, open mind and intense skepticism and curiosity. Don’t ever let other people’s ignorance and hate influence you in a negative way. The conversations and dialogue you facilitate are immeasurable in their value to the human species. You actually remind me of myself in a lot of ways and it gives me hope for my future and the future of the world. Love ya man!!

  • @raygordonteacheschess5501

    46:06 "There's ways set up for being a whistleblower." Love it when power attempts to regulate truth.

  • @TreeFrawg
    @TreeFrawg Před rokem +406

    I believe about 20% of the words that come out of this man’s mouth.

    • @ApoIIo95
      @ApoIIo95 Před rokem +6

      Why? I Don't understand your statement.

    • @tonyw8001
      @tonyw8001 Před rokem +6

      @@ApoIIo95 It's easy to understand no one in the CIA and FBI can be trusted he admitted looking up files after being retired that is a federal crime.

    • @adriansaninja
      @adriansaninja Před rokem +56

      Because he's a gman, a trained liar

    • @bobbyadamson2333
      @bobbyadamson2333 Před rokem +4

      What did he lie about? Why would he?

    • @bearschmidt3180
      @bearschmidt3180 Před rokem +4

      Exactly, like he like donuts and red meat and human growth hormones!

  • @409playa
    @409playa Před rokem +344

    When the market was up, one could go through listings and make better informed purchases. Competition between sellers kept product cleaner and reasonably priced. Bad batches of product could be more easily accounted for and disreputable sellers could be suppressed. It was far from a perfect system, but was ironically much better for safe drug use.

    • @DoingFedTime
      @DoingFedTime Před rokem +15

      Darknet markets still exist, in abundance.

    • @TheJbh147
      @TheJbh147 Před rokem +23

      @@DoingFedTime as a tip to anyone considering this route (which you definitely should never ever consider because drugz bad), don't pick a totally new vendor, but don't pick the one with thousands of reviews either. The new ones are a gamble because there aren't enough reviews. The old ones can be a gamble because they don't have such strong incentives to earn their place in the market through high quality goods anymore.

    • @galivnik6491
      @galivnik6491 Před rokem +3

      Great episode Lex! It was really interesting. Hope you manage to get Ross on as well!

    • @409playa
      @409playa Před rokem +7

      @@DoingFedTime Thanks for clarifying. I haven't kept up with it for a while. Lots of markets, but I feel they come and go quicker than the silk road managed to stay up. I meant the market as silk road specifically. There's so much I can't keep up with things now.

    • @merc9nine
      @merc9nine Před rokem +1

      Orrrr, stop doing those types of drugs. Pretty easy.

  • @MC1373
    @MC1373 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks Dale! This really helps with learning the marketplace!

  • @kevinflatt3884
    @kevinflatt3884 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This maybe be weird for me to say Lex. You are awesome and a very thoughtful human.. Love you bro!!!

  • @erictaylor4937
    @erictaylor4937 Před rokem +354

    Lex better follow this up with an interview of Ross

    • @thewoogs
      @thewoogs Před rokem +3

      From Jail lol

    • @Living_the_Highlight
      @Living_the_Highlight Před rokem +32

      They should just release Ross. That would be the humane thing to do. Guy was just providing a service at the end of the day.

    • @MeatMechArchitect
      @MeatMechArchitect Před rokem +7

      @@Garivich He can’t. Last time they tried he was thrown in solitary for a week. Lex should interview Ross’s mother.

    • @thishandleistacken
      @thishandleistacken Před rokem +5

      @@Living_the_Highlight he isn't in jail for providing that service he's in jail for ordering hits dude. read the transcripts. i have nothing against adults doing whatever they want with their own bodies and taking what they will but he crossed a line. that said life is too long for his sentence.

    • @professorvoluck9311
      @professorvoluck9311 Před rokem +12

      @Tom L Wrong. He was never tried on those charges. He was convicted on drug, money laundering, and hacking charges. Also, he is not in jail, he’s in prison.

  • @jacobgibson8379
    @jacobgibson8379 Před rokem +656

    The government has no more right to tell me what goes into my mouth, including illegal drugs, than it has to tell me what comes out of my mouth.
    Milton Friedman

    • @CCornish1978
      @CCornish1978 Před rokem +4

      fine with me, but don't ask me to pay for any emergency care/healthcare when what you put in your mouth causes someone to OD.

    • @ScoopDogg
      @ScoopDogg Před rokem +11

      100% agree

    • @imnotsmartbutimdumb
      @imnotsmartbutimdumb Před rokem

      I’d like to hear from one of the low iq chimps who think the government should tell you what you are allowed to do with your own body. How do you come to such a silly conclusion.

    • @genocidegrand2057
      @genocidegrand2057 Před rokem +5

      yes the gov do.

    • @sigigle
      @sigigle Před rokem +13

      @@CCornish1978 Same goes for people who eat unhealthy food then?
      imho, public health care should work like insurance companies, how they do a risk assessment based on your life style, which influences how much you're covered, how much you should pay, etc. which would include food, drugs, etc.

  • @user-zo2gx4qf5l
    @user-zo2gx4qf5l Před 11 měsíci

    Lex, my first comment here. It's fascinating to understand how humans operate. You just said that out loud when I knew that's what I like about you. That's why I watch. Great channel. Great episode. Thanks for what you do. Fascinating as well with the all the depth people would miss if they can't get by simple first impressions, you know? Yes. More power to you brother.

  • @tomfitzgerald4760
    @tomfitzgerald4760 Před rokem +15

    Can't believe this guy is going to go to his grave pretending he didn't create the baby parts post to get the warrant.

  • @thewoogs
    @thewoogs Před rokem +682

    "Rules of being a whistleblower" is such a dystopic phrase

    • @merchant_of_kek5697
      @merchant_of_kek5697 Před rokem +1

      That man literally leaked military training and research documents that were in no way against any privacy laws or regulations. Entire plans to protect Americans military or civilian. Not once did Snowden even attempt to go through proper channels which are anonymous. Besides that he could have just leaked the documents pertaining to the actual crimes but he didn’t, even attempting to sell the data to the Chinese and Russians

    • @dw3585
      @dw3585 Před rokem +101

      Fucking THANK YOU!
      I was so disturbed scrolling through the comments. So much support for this traitor.
      Snowden. Is. King.

    • @ickymouth
      @ickymouth Před rokem +50

      Of course you can blow a whistle, just wait a sec while I get the approved tunes…

    • @brendachilders4879
      @brendachilders4879 Před rokem +23

      Yeah. Rules that would make sue that info would be s saw "lost". This guy is compromised

    • @D00LEY356
      @D00LEY356 Před rokem +1

      @@dw3585 wait you’re saying Snowden is a traitor?

  • @RKade22
    @RKade22 Před rokem +191

    He's the perfect example of "in hindsight do you think they were bad guys or you were the bad guys?" His answer "I was just doing my job" ..doesn't think about or gaf if he's doing right or wrong just "it's the law" "it's code blah blah"

    • @sonjaspackenberger9250
      @sonjaspackenberger9250 Před rokem +47

      That's exactly what the Nazis said at the Nuremberg trials: "I was just following my orders!"

    • @thedpsemporiumofdrumtracks5648
      @thedpsemporiumofdrumtracks5648 Před rokem +1

      What do you expect from an unapologetic FBI loser. Class act greedy pig that made a ton of money at taxpayers expense to prop up a horrendous operation that they still blandly pledge allegiance to (the war on drugs).

    • @Maffmatix
      @Maffmatix Před rokem +21

      And to take it a step further, he displays a certain amount of emotional / mental weakness which is perfect in his trainer's mind.

    • @bogkazealijamislim5998
      @bogkazealijamislim5998 Před rokem +6

      This is my parents, police both. I've been working on them for years. They both voted Libertarian down the ticket the last two elections. That counts for something, I guess.

    • @jjrecon3024
      @jjrecon3024 Před rokem

      Yup, It's how egotards get roasted

  • @averyperdue2789
    @averyperdue2789 Před rokem

    wow. amazing podcast, first time watchin. for sure comin back for more

  • @rogerp6903
    @rogerp6903 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent interview and huge knowledge transfer.Thanks for sharing Lex and Chris

  • @amsbeats841
    @amsbeats841 Před rokem +224

    A podcast with Ross Ulbricht would be absolutely epic! Even bigger than Snowden on JRE.

    •  Před rokem +3

      not gonna happen, see War on drugs

    • @amsbeats841
      @amsbeats841 Před rokem +8

      @ I mean you could potentially have a podcast with someone in prison through visitation. Either in person through the glass or even just a long phone call.

    • @foenfriends
      @foenfriends Před rokem

      Ross Ulbricht can not be visited I'm pretty sure. They put that dude over a barrel and the entire US Govt and all its agencies took turns on his ass. This Tarbell guy went first. The judge went last.

    • @amsbeats841
      @amsbeats841 Před rokem

      @@4x4r974 yeah that kinda muddies the waters since he one thousand percent did that, but was never convicted of it. He got life without parole even without that though so he might not care about admitting it? If he is still appealing he probably wouldn't talk.. but I'd be interested to know whether he's turned over a new leaf, or whether he'd try to deny it and spin some story.

  • @timw4432
    @timw4432 Před rokem +49

    Your guest list is better than JRE these days mate. Keep the interesting guests coming

    • @ASF-od5tm
      @ASF-od5tm Před rokem

      That's a personal opinion correct?

    • @danielzlatic3943
      @danielzlatic3943 Před rokem +2

      When I scroll through JRE show interviews, it feels like 90% of the interviews are of comedians

  • @MrHarrissirraHrM
    @MrHarrissirraHrM Před 6 měsíci

    Great episode. Hope to see more like it!

  • @tehhotline4225
    @tehhotline4225 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Yes definitely bring the hacker on your very popular podcast :)
    Said the Former FBI agent

  • @fisheromen18
    @fisheromen18 Před rokem +107

    I always find it entertaining when Lex asks someone to "steel man" their opponent, and they say "Sure, so ... [he or she begins to restate their own argument]."

    • @Cymricus
      @Cymricus Před rokem +5

      ben shapiro vibes lol

    • @markdavid1208
      @markdavid1208 Před rokem

      Yah just give up expecting people to know this word made up yesterday and phrase it for normal people

  • @jon1039
    @jon1039 Před rokem +286

    Officer that says “I’m just following orders.” The easiest way a cop avoids responsibility of what is ethical or not.

    • @EvaLasta
      @EvaLasta Před rokem +3

      This dude is a scumbag and is directly responsible for thousands of deaths of people who couldn't order pure stuff anymore and had to get street drugs again. Anyone who works for the government should not be trusted, they have this internal allegiance to the corrupt elites and will betray their fellow citizens.

    • @safecracker112
      @safecracker112 Před rokem +18

      Nuremberg Principle IV. This has long been established.

    • @oaklyfoundation
      @oaklyfoundation Před rokem +14

      Police is not self governance there is a protocol in every situation and the need for self thinking should be minimsed. You have no idea how hard it is to work as a police officer, there are idiots every where but lets enlighten those who do good and understand that every tries to their best and you can't just say something like that in a way that makes axiomatic because its not. You have to have deeper understanding then this. Stop blaming others and look at what you can do to improve your life and the life around you, stop staying in negativity

    • @thesovereign1893
      @thesovereign1893 Před rokem +8

      People who end up in situations where a cop has to follow orders to detain them should take accountability for why they are in that situation in the first place.

    • @gazmasonik2411
      @gazmasonik2411 Před rokem +1

      Seems FBI 7th floor is clearly

  • @richardstrouth2359
    @richardstrouth2359 Před 2 měsíci

    I like the way your mind works. Very informative podcast and it was a good use of my time. Thanks for sharing.

  • @SquidGains
    @SquidGains Před rokem +4

    Great interview. That being said, the sooner we stop allocating resources to stopping people from taking substances, the better. People should get to make that decision for themselves.

  • @paul_e123
    @paul_e123 Před rokem +219

    The comments here give me faith in humanity. Free Ross

    • @shmuelcoen9906
      @shmuelcoen9906 Před rokem +15

      I am glad he is in jail for so long. All of you are pretending that the only thing sold on the Silk Road was drugs, tons of child pornography and sex trafficking existed on it as well.
      And even if it was only drugs, the belief that users are the only ones negatively impacted by drug use is asinine. Drug users have a much higher likelihood of committing violent crimes, and an extraordinarily higher chance of committing property crimes to fund their habit. Arguing that drug use is fine because some users aren’t addicts and aren’t committing additional offenses is akin to arguing no one should be charged with DUIs. If they didn’t hurt anyone on that night, it’s not a problem, even though it significantly increased the likelihood of harm to the community.
      And that doesn’t even get into the issues caused to society for the harm done to the users themselves. We end up using tons of social services to try to help people struggling with addiction, from government benefits to medical services. Because almost all of those scheduled drugs are highly addictive and it ends up destroying the lives of many users.
      Plus, society loses competent workers and instead has to spend to take care of the addicts. Society loses the benefit of having competent parents, it’s dangerous for kids to be watched by someone who is high, and drugs impair brain activity making it harder to teach kids as they grow.
      And this all stems from the concept that we should “let adults do what they want.” Is it still a conscious and thought out decision when the person is an addict whose brain is changed to need those substances? Is it still a conscious decision when many users are self-medicating mental health issues?

    • @LIQUIDSNAKEz28
      @LIQUIDSNAKEz28 Před rokem +15

      @@shmuelcoen9906 *"Arguing that drug use is fine because some users aren’t addicts and aren’t committing additional offenses is akin to arguing no one should be charged with DUIs"*
      NO, it's akin to arguing that alcohol should be illegal because some people drive drunk. The rest of your rambling is destroyed by this one point.

    • @shmuelcoen9906
      @shmuelcoen9906 Před rokem +5

      @@LIQUIDSNAKEz28
      1. We are talking about drug dealers, not drug users. In my analogy, Ross isn’t the one driving, he’s the bartender purposefully over serving the customer then handing the keys to the car.
      2. Alcohol and drugs are not a 1:1 comparison. The drugs on the Silk Road are significantly more dangerous, and using itself is inherently dangerous as opposed to alcohol. A couple of quick results from studies about specific drugs:
      - a study of methamphetamine users in England found that 24% of those who had been taken to the hospital for detox were dead within 15years
      - heroine users are on average 63x more likely to die than their respective demographics
      - a study of cocaine users in Brazil found 18.5% mortality rates within 5 years.
      That’s the differences. For many of the drugs Ross was putting up for sale, mortality rates of 20% are expected within a few years

    • @johnscott6481
      @johnscott6481 Před rokem +2

      Bartender..no...in your analogy he would be the owner,proprieter,and security, with the power to impose the death penalty to unruly patrlns

    • @shmuelcoen9906
      @shmuelcoen9906 Před rokem

      @@johnscott6481 true, that fits much better

  • @BitwiseMobile
    @BitwiseMobile Před rokem +244

    Lex asking Tarbell if it was safe for him to bring on a wanted cyber criminal is like the farmer asking the wolf if it's safe for the sheep to graze there. :)

    • @jgalvan09
      @jgalvan09 Před rokem +9

      lmaoooo you know FBI agents were watching

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley Před rokem +8

      Yeah. Lex is so innocent, it's endearing.

    • @OfficialDJLaxative
      @OfficialDJLaxative Před rokem +5

      @@realMaverickBuckley are you dense?

    • @RichardCranium321
      @RichardCranium321 Před rokem

      he was safer with the criminal (brett johnson) than he was with this FBI agent.... notice, Chris talks tough against child predators yet 3pstein & Maxwell were conveniently *not* mentioned throughout this entire 3 hour conversation despite the dozens of eyewitness reports made to FBI from 1992-2018

    • @PickpocketJones
      @PickpocketJones Před rokem

      BTK is a great example of this.

  • @larryyank3566
    @larryyank3566 Před rokem

    Your integrity is one of the few of Clarity & conscience. Bravo!
    Regards, Viet vet VFP

  • @user-il8ip1kv4q
    @user-il8ip1kv4q Před 5 měsíci

    Wow
    Chris Carbel is awesome. You do fantastic interviews.
    Thank you very much!

  • @Goosht
    @Goosht Před rokem +214

    I enjoyed the podcast immensely and thanks to Chris Tarbell for participating. I just find it bizarre that the justification for invasion of privacy is "well Big Tech does it, soooo"

    • @WetBoy
      @WetBoy Před rokem +31

      I don't think it was a justification for invading privacy. His point was that people think they value their privacy more than they actually do.

    • @GypsyEncounters
      @GypsyEncounters Před rokem

      @@WetBoy big tech can't prosecute, or leverage citizens to "cooperate" with the government, or else...

    • @vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse
      @vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse Před rokem

      @@WetBoy I think both things are true. I also think that we surrender our privacy to companies every day without a second thought, but when the government does it in the name of national security everyone is up in arms. You want a climb up my ass with an electron microscope? If it prevents another 9/11 you feel free.

    • @MichaelKohr
      @MichaelKohr Před rokem +11

      No it’s def a justification

    • @jaymccormack6875
      @jaymccormack6875 Před rokem

      Big tech sells it. Biggest buyer the us government or data mines that sell it to the us gov. Also, not a big government guy but if you felt that private companies selling private info is the real problem then why is government not stepping in to protect that? It’s a self filling prophecy.
      Idk if I’m making sense but fuck why do we try to think individuals have any rights it’s companies and government that own them and they will never give them back or try to protect us.

  • @jamesmuffitt
    @jamesmuffitt Před rokem +231

    This man (Chris, if that wasn't clear) has had a large negative impact on society. Fuck the war on drugs

  • @peepininmywindow5170
    @peepininmywindow5170 Před rokem +7

    The Silk Road was an incredible time and place when it and BTC hit around the same time. What Ross achieved was incredible. The forum postings back then all suspected that there was a Honeypot, some CIA/DEA accounts were even outed during that run and extremely publicly I might add.
    But what was so incredible, and what likely scared the shit out of the Government was the “idea” that many Libertarian, like minded people could come together, and establish a trust with virtual currency, around a game that in the real world most time has zero ethics. The escrow system they had, and the actual trust between buyer/seller looking back, should have never worked. No fake drugs were sold, Fentanyl hadn’t hit yet, but everyone there took extreme pride in their product, and how quickly & discreetly they could ship things to you. Yes there were a few major cases where sellers took a few hundred/thousand BTC(which brought about the escrow system) but overall everyone worked extremely hard to protect the idea of what Silk Road was. Some of the old threads on how things like Insulin/Blood Pressure Meds/ HIV-HGH Meds….. and how folks legit saved their lives through the global access is just incredible.
    A true moment in time. I hope we see a Ross pardon at some point down the line, which may be possible in the next 20 Years once these fucking Baby Boomers finally die off. I’m thankful I got to see SR/Crypto in action in its purest form. That was Crypto in its finest hour, those who were there know exactly what I mean.

  • @Jane-yj1to
    @Jane-yj1to Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don't think I can go down this rabbit hole. This interview was wild.

  • @jasonm7354
    @jasonm7354 Před rokem +78

    Agents in gov have a lot of power that is abused quite often. They need to be closely monitored

    • @CentrifugalSatzClock
      @CentrifugalSatzClock Před rokem +1

      Better would be to NOT fund them. Stealing from the public to injure the nations citizens is a terrible idea.

    • @SnakePlisskin.
      @SnakePlisskin. Před rokem +1

      Exactly right u would think

    • @Adrian_Galilea
      @Adrian_Galilea Před rokem

      by whom?

    • @Creoles.nature
      @Creoles.nature Před rokem

      They are to a certain clearance level

    • @CentrifugalSatzClock
      @CentrifugalSatzClock Před rokem +2

      @@Adrian_Galilea Vote Libertarian, NEVER 2 party. Support the rights of man and limit the powers of sociopaths who live to harm people.

  • @kerrynicholls3435
    @kerrynicholls3435 Před rokem +118

    Snowden was the real ‘patriot’. He was helping protect the privacy and security of the people of his nation when the government he worked for had lost its moral compass.

    • @twstdreality
      @twstdreality Před rokem +2

      Mass surveillance is a good thing. And people talk about "invasion of privacy" yet mass surveillance is so under the radar that people don’t even realize they are being watched and thus it doesn’t even get in the way of their every day lives so it’s not really invasive in any way

    • @Gobbldeegoo1
      @Gobbldeegoo1 Před rokem +16

      @@twstdreality that’s the most psychotic thing I’m going to hear today. If I’m staring through your window all day, watching you, is it ok because you don’t know it?

    • @Lee-fc3yf
      @Lee-fc3yf Před rokem

      Russian spy, Putin's pet, and a traitor.

    • @neurotransmi77Er
      @neurotransmi77Er Před rokem +1

      He did good for public but I'm not quite sure the initial motive was that. I think they stepped on his foot, it happens, then he wanted to show who's really the boss, which he did. The other side of course will never come out with a story of things that was never meant to be told, obviously they all dealing with dirt, we know that and I'm pretty sure snowden knew it right from the beginning.

    • @isaacsolivan1143
      @isaacsolivan1143 Před rokem +1

      @@Gobbldeegoo1 That was a good analogy tho

  • @bradskinner3574
    @bradskinner3574 Před rokem +2

    Lex, I have watched all of your content, Truly it is invaluable and an inspiration. However i do not comment because im here to Listen, not to talk.
    it surprises me you take certain comments to heart because you have such a resilient optimism, One doesn't usually have that characteristic if not having first mentally prepared for exactly that. But you must understand, for every person willing to type some sort of useless criticism, there are 3 other people who have said nothing, commented nothing, and listened to the extended diligence you give to each person you interview and taken a huge amount of knowledge away with them. If you did not see the world the way you do, we (the people) may not have that window into these subjects and mysteries if not for you. If your path was easy, your probably on the wrong path. Thank you very much for what you do. My hero is someone that knows their plane will get hit with Flak, but fly's the path he knows he must anyway. Again thank you Lex Fridman.

  • @sanibel3
    @sanibel3 Před 20 dny

    Chris Tarbell was thoroughly enjoyable and had me cracking up. Great Interview Lex! Signed, LateToTheParty. ❣️🍀

  • @SkinnyVinnyLive
    @SkinnyVinnyLive Před rokem +147

    Listening to Chris Tarbell is like listening to an alternate universe “Sopranos” episode where Tony is a cyber FBI agent, and is a total rule follower

    • @cloutgold0077
      @cloutgold0077 Před rokem +7

      I thought the same thing, especially from the thumbnail😂

    • @deborahrose8621
      @deborahrose8621 Před rokem

      OMG ~ YESSS!

    • @snoobins4623
      @snoobins4623 Před rokem +7

      Chris never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

    • @mandatorymyocarditis
      @mandatorymyocarditis Před rokem

      Order followers are bad guys so yeah. They just do what they are told regardless of what is right or wrong, like this FBI agent terrorist

    • @gabrielegagliardi3956
      @gabrielegagliardi3956 Před rokem

      Lex is Furio ahah

  • @blexaarron
    @blexaarron Před rokem +94

    Free Ross Ulbricht

    • @blexaarron
      @blexaarron Před rokem

      @@Sanctifiers thank you for the info

  • @kimberiysmarketstrategy
    @kimberiysmarketstrategy Před 7 měsíci

    Lex= the coolest calmest guy ever to walk this planet as the world degrades around us, we watch in absolute wonder.

  • @JamesBroadwater
    @JamesBroadwater Před 6 měsíci

    I'm loving this episode!!

  • @fightingowenmcdonagh6734
    @fightingowenmcdonagh6734 Před rokem +102

    Really glad u mentiond Aaron Swartz the man was a true hero

  • @forgottenpygmy
    @forgottenpygmy Před rokem +64

    Lex: Can you steel man the opposing side on that issue?
    Guest: No, but I can reiterate my own position in another way.
    🤣

    • @EnFuego79
      @EnFuego79 Před rokem

      That sums up the mindset of a brainwashed gov't thug to a T. This guy would have proudly loaded people into boxcars back in Germany.

  • @johngavlick6479
    @johngavlick6479 Před 2 měsíci

    Randomly stumbled upon this podcast. Instantly intrigued

  • @jpalo7733
    @jpalo7733 Před 6 měsíci

    He really said "I don't know what that toilet paper company did, but it was their opportunity to make a splash" with a straight face 😂😂😂

  • @funksniffer2598
    @funksniffer2598 Před rokem +122

    If I had a dollar everytime I fell asleep listening to a podcast, then woke up listening to a Lex Fridman podcast instead, I'd own the bank

    • @bake4111
      @bake4111 Před rokem +5

      Holy shit me too.... I can't believe im not alone

    • @DeathValleyDazed
      @DeathValleyDazed Před rokem +3

      OMG ditto here, now back to my nap😆

    • @AndyMacaskill
      @AndyMacaskill Před rokem +10

      Yep, same. CZcams likes Lex, which sets off alarm bells for me.

    • @funksniffer2598
      @funksniffer2598 Před rokem +1

      @@AndyMacaskill Lex Fridman is the softcore porn of long form podcasts
      The whole time, you just wish he'd go harder faster, but he holds back like a cock tease

    • @osvaldoandycalderin2136
      @osvaldoandycalderin2136 Před rokem +2

      Holy fuck I thought it was just me

  • @EggsBenedict-
    @EggsBenedict- Před rokem +140

    That bit were Chris knew what Lex was gonna say was insane

    • @Squirrel-zq6oe
      @Squirrel-zq6oe Před rokem +3

      Time stamp pls? 🙏🙏

    • @bos9824
      @bos9824 Před rokem +9

      @@Squirrel-zq6oe 7:55

    • @Squirrel-zq6oe
      @Squirrel-zq6oe Před rokem +3

      @@bos9824 awesome lol thank you! That was crazy

    • @Stefantius
      @Stefantius Před rokem +3

      32:49 (timestamp to return me to my place in the video)

  • @christianwilborn4620
    @christianwilborn4620 Před rokem

    Listened to this the whole way through & I think it just might change my life. I hope and I’ll see.

  • @davegroal9666
    @davegroal9666 Před rokem

    Hey Lex I just want to say thanks for being you.

  • @-kipper-
    @-kipper- Před rokem +22

    Edward snowden is a hero. To humanity.

  • @boreallifts2042
    @boreallifts2042 Před rokem +55

    I really love the "Can you steelman..." category of questions.

    • @TheMateyl
      @TheMateyl Před rokem +17

      And these FBI guys never can

    • @boreallifts2042
      @boreallifts2042 Před rokem +4

      ​@@TheMateyl Can you steelman the case that some of 'these FBI guys' might surprise you?

    • @TheMateyl
      @TheMateyl Před rokem +2

      @@boreallifts2042 Open to it.. none so far has though

    • @andrewcecce
      @andrewcecce Před rokem

      Lmao right I’m noticing a pattern

    • @adamlew6145
      @adamlew6145 Před rokem +2

      Its corny

  • @mookytc
    @mookytc Před 2 měsíci

    Fascinating interview thank you.

  • @diddleyy2759
    @diddleyy2759 Před měsícem

    One of my favorite episodes, watched it twice

  • @thegingergrasshopper3908
    @thegingergrasshopper3908 Před rokem +156

    Chris-"I'm not big government type..."
    Also chris one minute before hand-"There are rules to whistle blowing...And Snowden is a bad guy"
    Ok there Mr. FBI.
    MCAA

    • @7085stang
      @7085stang Před rokem +17

      I literally LOL at that one.

    • @The_THX_1138
      @The_THX_1138 Před rokem +7

      Ruby Ridge.

    • @ShifuCareaga
      @ShifuCareaga Před rokem

      I'm anti FBI, former NSA, and I'm going to tell you point blank what Snowden did was not done right. He put lives at risk, instead of his own. He's no hero. I'm glad it all came out, but not how it was done.
      There are ways to turn in the officers you're working for, and that wasn't done.

    • @merchant_of_kek5697
      @merchant_of_kek5697 Před rokem +1

      y’all didn’t actually research’s nothing about Snowden. He leaked countless documents on American citizens and military docs that had nothing to do with illegal or even privacy violations. Also why did he never go through proper channels that are made to hold people accountable. Why did he try to sell the data to the Chinese first?

    • @thegingergrasshopper3908
      @thegingergrasshopper3908 Před rokem +2

      @@merchant_of_kek5697 cause you talk to him on the daily right? Proper channels??
      You- "Yes government, please investigate yourself because you are violating the Constitution."
      Government- " we have investigated ourselves and found we did nothing unconstitutional."
      You- "See, he is the bad guy, government told me."
      MCAA

  • @steveseeger
    @steveseeger Před rokem +43

    If someone told me that the Hank Schrader character from breaking bad was based on this guy, I'd buy it.

    • @misery978
      @misery978 Před rokem +6

      God damn it marie they are minerals!!!

    • @michaeloconnor1281
      @michaeloconnor1281 Před rokem

      Well they are. They're not rocks.

    • @TokyoTaisu
      @TokyoTaisu Před rokem

      Steve they're both ISTJ personality types. You can see it so clearly.

    • @sloppygoo
      @sloppygoo Před měsícem

      @@TokyoTaisumyres Briggs is pseudo science

  • @michellemarchiano9878
    @michellemarchiano9878 Před 6 měsíci

    Wow. I lost my Dad the same way. Very painful. Prayers to you. ❤🙏❤

  • @capnpicard6146
    @capnpicard6146 Před rokem +62

    Chris: "I'm a technologist."
    Me: "you're a fed."

    • @orphanedhanyou
      @orphanedhanyou Před rokem +1

      That was said in context of appreciating technology

    • @capnpicard6146
      @capnpicard6146 Před rokem

      @@orphanedhanyou This is why mom doesnt love you.

    • @itmeurdad
      @itmeurdad Před rokem

      It's not possible to be both? And why so hostile?

    • @capnpicard6146
      @capnpicard6146 Před rokem

      @@itmeurdad God I love explaining jokes, I would do it all day every day if I could.

    • @itmeurdad
      @itmeurdad Před rokem +1

      @@capnpicard6146 you don't have to explain jokes, edge lord. We "get" em.

  • @TheBuzzati
    @TheBuzzati Před rokem +64

    "I call my wife 10 to 12 times a day when she's not around." Major co-dependency issues, dude.

    • @livewellwitheds6885
      @livewellwitheds6885 Před rokem +16

      yeah, huge red flag

    • @DeleteLawz1984
      @DeleteLawz1984 Před rokem +3

      I thought the same thing -- what a woosie

    • @JM-er9ry
      @JM-er9ry Před rokem +6

      She’s probably hot & out of his league and he’s packing a 22 derringer. Just complex issues

    • @wortyle
      @wortyle Před rokem +5

      Not the type of immature comment's I'd expect to see from a Lex video.

    • @ashleyc8373
      @ashleyc8373 Před rokem +2

      Right. So weird.

  • @hemantalahiri3100
    @hemantalahiri3100 Před 10 měsíci

    Great discussion

  • @mchannelito
    @mchannelito Před 3 měsíci

    Such a great person, with big heart! Loved a story about dad.

  • @eduardkim3658
    @eduardkim3658 Před rokem +52

    Is Lex the AV Unit, sitting literally in front of the former FBI Agent?

  • @cryptoesquire3168
    @cryptoesquire3168 Před rokem +17

    G: “Child exploitation pisses me off!”
    Also G: “Let’s go after drugs!” 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @myyoutube7144
    @myyoutube7144 Před měsícem +1

    Loved this episode. Such a cool guy! I wish him well.

  • @X_PATHOGEN_X
    @X_PATHOGEN_X Před 6 měsíci

    Now I have to check out that podcast