Starmer responds to the worst riots in 20 years
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Farage: It wasn't me, a big boy did it then ran away
It is absolutely typical of you to *invent a fantasy* and *attribute* it to the people who you *hate.*
@@rebecca_noble Don't talk like you know me, you frightful old mare.
@@rebecca_nobleSeems to be a common thing amongst right wingers
@@jenny2tone242 It is the incessant, persistent, daily behaviour of the anti-brexit, anti farage, anti UK electorate, anti "tory", smart@ss, petty minded, hypocrical griping, moaning, whining, set.
But hey, you just keep losing. Farage now has 4 mps in parliament after a few months of campaigning.
But you will never stop opening your meally mouthed GOB and spewing bovine excrement out.
@@rebecca_nobleSo rebeccano….. , harder to spend those rubels?
The Tories laid the groundwork for these riots and are now sitting back and watching their work come to fruition. Well done
They also did nothing about prison overcrowding so now there's nowhere to put these criminals.
How so?
@@stewie7338 you've obviously not been paying attention so I won't bother enlightening you
@@vinylrulesok8470 I've been paying close attention for the last 25yrs my friend hence I don't also recognise the title of this video to be true either. Delusional.
Let’s not forget that the blame lies with the violent opportunist criminals who are rioting.
Nonsense, you are deranged.
Who's this "Tommy" they keep shouting for? They reckon Yaxley-Lennon's got nothing to do with it...
@@alfsmith4936 My point was, a lot seem to be pointing the finger at everyone but the actual criminals themselves. I agree that that many right wing political figures have been playing with fire for years. Now it's erupted and they also bear responsibility.
@@Anthropodelic They'll never face any consequences. People like 'tommy' never do. They end up living in a mansion, while the people who supported them carry on suffering.
@@Anthropodelic Stoking the fire is a better term. And the misinfo pumped out about the assailant was like squirting petrol on a barbecue. I wonder who set this in motion. The calls for Starmer to resign now made by the Reform gang could be a clue to why.
This has been brewing since the racismcand hatred of the Brexit campaign. This isnt a "working class" protest, that is an insult to good working class people.
Well said 👏👏👏
They are actively attacking the working class 😠
That about sums it up. I remember after Brexit vote Polish people were being physically attacked by the same kind of xenophobic thugs.
Farage oversold what Brexit was about , and what Brexit would deliver.
He implied they would get it whoever was in power.
Now these people feel justified for rioting about not getting what they think they voted for in 2016.
It’s not the fault of the rest of us they are thick and easily conned.
They are just stooges for their right wing masters. You know brexiteers.
With the current pressure on prison places why don't they remove any asylum seekers currenty on the Bibby Stockholm and fill it with any of these convicted rioters.
Good idea
Isn’t is already closed ?
@@dianeshelton9592 reopen it then, with just one small modification where there were 2 asylum seekers in a room put 4 thugs.
What has Weymouth done to you?
The Bibby isn't set up to confine people. Particularly not THIS kind of people.
The Tories have been stoking this for years. The rioters are spouting their slogans.
Still blaming the Tories for Blairite extreme left policies?
@@pauljeffrey118114 years of Tory rule did contribute to this, that's the reality no matter how much you want to deny it.
Labour and conservative have Ben practically the same party since Thatcher who made our political system a cult of personality like the Americans. Gutting local communities; attacking our most vulnerable citizens; and throwing public money at big businesses (their school friends) has been a staple of both parties. It’s not about red or blue, it’s about poor or rich.
@@pauljeffrey1181Blair was a Tory
@@SarahFrom5to7 Ureka.
Farage sounds like Trump did before he incited the Jan 6th attack.
@@bob23301 Yup , full of coded meaning.
It Lump gets in it's game over for everyone and a green light for that wan.ker Flange
Ah yes that famous Nothing-Burger
Trump + Fraudage = Rupert Murdoch.
@@johnburrows3385 Yep, that's the far right in an nutshell - 'Heavily implies something' followed by ' I didn't say that!'.
If you set fire to a building *knowing* there are men, women and children inside... that's attempted murder.
A spade should be called a spade. It IS attempted murder.
@@mickreaddin4979 Only if you are white British.
For foreigners it is a mental health issue . Excused by the trauma of the transatlantic slave trade.
and there was me thinking these "patriots" were seeking to save children....
@@mickreaddin4979 Not if you are non white. Then it is a mental health issue.
@@lolwalters2936 Only white children.
‘Those who make peaceful Revolution impossible will make violent Revolution inevitable’. John F. Kennedy.
Except it isn't peaceful
This isn't a revolution - it's a few thousand idiots either looking for a fight or to do a bit of looting.
There are legitimate concerns that need exploring, but these riots are just making those concerns get lost in the long grass.
It did start yesterday.@@STONEWALL148
There is evidence against Katie Hopkins.
Evidence of what?
It seems clear that Garage and his ilk have lit the blue touch paper and retired. Don't forget the build up to all of this by the likes of Braverman and her invasion rhetoric. Her contributions must be highlighted.
It was very much KS who divided the country most Muslims will want their children safe as well.
That's all they were ever going to do.. They know the country belongs to the aristocracy and we are just free entertainment.
@@alfsmith4936well said let d peasants revolt
@@marumaru6084 Well if they support these thugs their families will certainly not be safe. Just for the record, Starmer has only been in power 2 weeks it's the Torys that have caused these problems with 14 years of corrupt & incompetent government.
Garages should be banned and silenced
tories refused to process claims..to encourage this disgrace!!!!
In the Scottish highlands where I live beautiful day here.
My daughter and her bf have just travelled to Scotland from France. She loves the country of her ancestors.
Greetings to you. Alba gu bràth So glad, and not surprised , to hear it is peaceful in Scotland.
@@daydays12 🦄
Ironically, the highlands are peaceful because they were ethnically cleansed by Scots 200 years ago.
A friend's son was attacked yesterday. Not because he was an immigrant, not because he was a muslim but because he has a very deep tan.
Whatever these people are fighting for, they've already lost.
They should give it up and go home. Maybe help clear up the mess they've created in places they simply do not live.
These people aren't fighting FOR anything they are fighting because they like it.
@@Ricimer671 True. Thugs have to find any excuse to exercise their thuggish behaviour.
Tried attacking me at work. Ex service man who has personally rescued 3 gangrape victims. It's nothing but blatant racism. Had to make sure my Chinese and white colleagues (w/ tans) had escorts home. Absolutely disgusting, luckily I've survived warzones but I hope the kid is okay 😢😠
@@Ricimer671 Yes. They are the same thugs who make life intolerable for peaceful decent residents of tourist destinations such as Spain and other places in Europe where these 'English' louts run amock
I heard someone shout "There ain't no black in the Union Jack, so all you N---s, F-- off back" in Rotherham, as they were throwing roadsigns and bits of brick at the police line.
Sadly Ireland have been fighting back and it's not about racism it's about the impact government decisions are having on their communities i.e. Further strain on an already depleted NHS and local council services also financial cost whilst people are relying on food banks ... none of this will affect our politicians/elite who can afford private health care and dine in fancy restaurants... they have caused this unrest ... divide and conquer comes to mind and it will be the ordinary person who suffers ... soo sad it has come to this ... we know ultimately who the real criminals are 😞
And never forget them 🤑🤑🤑
Starmer has a remarkable achievement, uniting both communities in Northern Ireland.
Oh yes it is about racism because those that are the most vocal and violent are right-wing agitators
It was the LAST government who caused the breakdown of British society and its public service structures.
This government have only been in power for a month. They're already doing great things to fix the numerous problems the Tories caused but it will take time.
@@jmas1219sadly it was all pretence labour and tories are one and the same
The basis of these riots is about the fact the murderer in Southport is a second generation immigrant, but they didn't realise one of the victims was also a second generation immigrant
Thats fact and logic something these knuckle draggers can't deal with
@Roger-mx1ff based on what? The parents told you to stop. So your going against the wishes of grieving parents who want nothing to do with this
@Roger-mx1ff God help you if you find yourself in a situation needing to migrate.
@Roger-mx1ff The parents of the read children said they want nothing to do with the violence or protests. They have told anyone who is involved to stop
@Roger-mx1ff nope, and a vote is confidential information. Perhaps this question is because you didn't like labour getting in? Maybe that's behind this instead?
You seem to have become a bit of Yaxley-Lennon apologist. He has been overtly encouraging violence from afar and needs to be called out, and, ideally, put behind bars.
he's been warning for years that if you keep attacking communities with your leftist mass migration lunacy they will get p!ssed off.
Where is your evidence for this?
@@stewie7338”Second police station destroyed in Sunderland as the people revolt. You should’ve listened @Keir_Starmer”. Sounds like a threat to me.
@@10whiten99 Hi - It doesn't to me. It certainly isn't evidence. Fascism = projection.
Yes I too noticed that!
Farage , Braverman , 30p Lee , Tice and Patel have a lot to answer for .
People with a different opinion you mean? You never learn.
@@keefereal no the opposite you have a lot to learn ..
Social media owners are also at fault eg elon musk - perhaps we need a bill to make platforms more responsible. Theyre currently unaccountable for content but theyre making so much money they can afford to check content more responsibly.
Guy's are going to get year's in jail lose there jobs houses marriage etc.and Farage just sit back and say it's nothing to do with me.
So true
And they're too stupid to realise.
No he won't. He'l act like they were Jan 6th insurectionists and promise their families he will release them, if they vote for him, while his cronies like Yaxley Lennon and other far right social media influencers, crow about it being "demonization of the working classes.".
How is it anything to do with Farage? He and others do not in any way condone these awful displays, they merely comment on the cause.
@@dorsetbigcats6292 Have you seen his conversation with Bannon?
We didn't have 4K video and 5G streaming 20 years ago, and we didn't have muppets filming and live streaming all their own crimes
stupid in action with the thought of, oh look at me, fame at last
@@mattyfrommacc1554 its called self-grassing haha
And have you changed your opinion about Tommy Robinson lying on his sun bed at a 5 star resort abroad monitoring operations and the terrorism charges against him by any chance?
I watched a full 1.5hrs of the Rotheram Holiday Inn Riots. I just cried & cried. The sheer horror. The immigrants peering from the top windows watching the horrors below. The Police outnumbered & having everything & anything thrown at them, including punches! The verbal abuse & verbal venom & hatred towards the Police was as equal to the verbal hatred for the immigrants. 1/3 of them with face covered but 2/3 just don't care! The Videos show every single one of them, many will be identified! It was horrifying to see how the Police were attacked. Society has completely & totally broken down! I think once these riots move on from immigrants it will move to all minorities. These Nazis need to be stopped otherwise we will all become legitimate targets.
So true. 😞As a British man living in the safety of France, I sympathise with you.
Just can't think why there is so much anger in Rotherham in particular. It's such a mystery
These thugs are also fueled with alcohol and cocaine, this is not the activity of logical thinking people, surely.
@@alexdavis1541 Yes we know about the grooming gangs but remember it was a Muslim that made sure those vile individuals got prosecuted.
@@STONEWALL148 Your comment reveals a serious level of denial. Really unbelievable
I don’t get your point about Tommy Robinson. If he can be blamed for the riots by doing nothing at all, surely the anger and frustration that led to the violence must be real and coming from somewhere else.
Yes, it is real. But anger in any human being doesn't come from outside. It comes from within the individual. The individual might control it, repress it or express it. Often it needs a social setting or a particular character to give permission for that expression.
"Nothing at all". He's had a hand in organising these riots, he's currently organising riots this week aimed at immigration centres, and in the past all he's done is stoke the flames of division. Not once has he tried to mediate tension because that isn't his MO. He's been trouble for the UK for the best part of 15 years - we've all seen it.
Some People where claiming that Tommy Ten Names actually tweeted some cities to target and then deleted the tweets. They showed screenshots.
He did
I am in the opinion that Starmer hasn’t responded to the recent riots; instead he has verbally reacted. He has said absolutely nothing to calm the situation instead he has inflamed the situation with his utterly ignorant statements, and reluctance to look into the grievances the of most of the disenfranchised underprivileged people who have been ignored for at least 14 years. Starmer also out of hand outright dismissed criticism of 2-tier policing without having investigated the complaints. Plus, Starmer’s attendance at Southport after the tragedy was utterly disgraceful because he only spoke to the police, not to the local community affected by the tragedy, being the PM he should have made a public speech to console the affected community. Ever since Tory-Starmer hijacked the Labour Party I have developed EXTREME hatred for him, I want him ousted ASAP.
There's the aspect of just stop oil protesters having harsher treatment for their zoom calls,so a firmer response to this unnecessary level of violence is needed in my view.
They think they've countered being arrested because they shout "Two tiered" and it seems to be working.. Labour need to worry less about offending people.
@@alfsmith4936there's no chance that's going to work. Starmer is going to throw the book at them. 27 of the rioters from Leeds have been arrested. The police there just weren't prepared for it properly on the night, but they are not turning a blind eye to it.
Pray for us St Alban, true patron saint of England.
As for all this I fear it has been stoking for many years, speaking as somone who used to be on that side before I came to my good sense. Yet still the current government will be blamed for riots which have been practically encouraged by the last. The fascist mob (that is what they are) must be dealt with swiftly and brutaly they cannot get away with this
People's standards of living fall like a rock.
20 years plus falling, the government and media blamed the others!
So the media and government are the problem.
Did you riot? If the media are responsible then you had no choice but to riot. If you did not? Then you resisted the media influrnce. If you resisted. They could resist.
Actually standards of living have only been falling for 14 years. In spite of coping with the banking crash for their last 2 years in office Labour kept living standards pretty damned good.
Then along came Cameron and Austerity.
It sickens me to watch these these shocking scenes to think many of my uncles and father fought the nazis in ww2 And watching these crowds giving the nazi salute and holding the Union Jack it beggars belief that their family’s will be watching these actions terrible
It sickens me to see hordes of Palestinian and muslim flags. There's not a chance in hell ww2 vets fought for that.
@dogglebird4430 they are not ordinary people they are far right thugs spreading violence
@dogglebird4430 So why aren't they out working then, a lot of tax payers money is going to be needed to fix this mess.
@@alannorman6166 Yes My Father fought to stop fascist in ww2.Just to let Islamist in the back door.My father and his comrades wasted their youth in my view
Tommy robinson did not start these riots , it was the stabbing of the soilder, the stabbings of the children the murder of the lady walking her dog, the grooming gangs, enough is enough, the government couldn't careless of its own British people, where was starmer when in Leeds the police ran away, or what did the government do when that teacher had to go into hiding in batley, when it was surrounded by our muslim friends, yes nothing, starmer is useless and needs to go end of.
Why is Farage not in frame for his actions. He should be in the dock!
Can we compare Farage to Adolf Hitler, probably not...But Farage sails damn close to the wind most of the time ...
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Leave him alone put him in prison for life Tommy and farage
@@acousticguitarcrazy6385 life time supply of ky lube
I remember when Farage pulled up in what looked like a chauffeur driven car outside a hotel housing asylum seekers and then went inside. I believe he did this around the time a certain far right group were doing the same thing.
No, Tim these riots are much much worse, more extensive, caused by a fundamental disconnect with the UK. The fuse has been smouldering for quite a time but the cognoscenti and the nomenclatura simply chose to turn a blind eye for after all this is their country and the Untermensch simply exist to serve them. We have become France and, though things will calm down eventually, Britain will never be quite the same.
Britain hasn’t been the same since Braverman and Farage started all this. They have made several attempts to light the blue touch paper.
Had we become France, those riots would have happened over more important issues, and way before now!
I'm sorry he worded it that way France!
We do not need people who are welcome, being told they are unwelcome.
People need other people.
Some need people to blame in order to feel better about themselves, we see this everyday. In government & outside with the hoi polloi.
Blame games are no use to hungry children & homeless people from all corners of our home, earth.
I'm incredibly grateful for Sir Kier Starmer being who he is, and I wish him well during this useless & disgusting period of 2024.
The long game is not on the agenda of the rioters, they seek quick gratification for their 'feelings'.
If only they had so much enthusiasm & feeling for vocation, volunteering & voting!
We would do well to be like France! In your dreams!
Well that was a load of nonsense. How many should we admit? 100 million? 2 billion. It is not just a matter of numbers.
@@gvdlpgg2406
What is it a matter of gvdlpgg?
Unfortunately, Justice is only available to those who can afford to pay for it! That is not equitable but there's little chance of attaining equity anytime soon! That's the issue.
Of course he's done it directly! That's the only reason he was allowed back on Twitter/X....
A normal shrine to incidents involving infants would be flowers,toys and hearfelt messages but instead we give them a pile of rubble.
Hope all involved are proud.😢
Seeing this drama from a distance, I'm seeing two sides of the debate, both of them seemingly making valid points and both of them being biased to one of two opposing political agendas. I'm not sure who to believe, probably bits of both.
Prof Wilson, again I find your opinion on this issue to be heavily biased. You are not even attempting to understand the perspective of the protesters. The situation is effectively the same as a war. You are condemning one side in a war for being violent! That is folly.
The situation as I see it: All would be well if the U.K. was a land of plenty, with unlimited resources with which to implement the idealistic woke ideology of open door migration policy, but that is very far from being the reality! As an analogy, it is as if the government is forcing you to accommodate permanent house guests, who cannot contribute anything to your household, are competing with you for limited resources and then one of them goes and kills your kids!
Migrants are competing with the local population for limited resources and are adding to the crime rate. The criminal justice system is overstretched as it is. There aren't the money or resources to implement open door migration.
Having said that, the problem is escalating. Racism causes retaliatory attacks, which causes increased racism. It isn't even really racism, but "anti-migrantism", which would be effectively the same if all the migrants were white Ukrainians or something.
We have had young girls stabbed to death and if people like Tommy Robinson and others are to be believed, also an ongoing problem with Muslim perpetrated "grooming gangs", the details of which I need not repeat here. You might try to doubt the existence of those, but you can't deny the Southport murders, which are arguably worse, so why doubt the gangs? Back to my analogy, if you are supporting house guests, then they have to behave impeccably, or they get thrown out and even just one bad apple can taint the whole barrel and spoil it for the rest, many of whom are peaceful, good people. Arguably, our best shot at preventing extremism is to punish their family and people for their crimes. Again the war analogy: the only thing really stopping Putin from going all in on Ukraine is the threat of retaliation. Without the threat of retaliation, anyone is free to impose whatever they like on the world.
So, please try to present a more balanced view in future!
You claim the Prof is biased, then use words like "woke" which tells us all that you are far from impartial yourself.
The facts you seem to be blind to might include -
The UK is the sixth wealthiest nation in the world - but during the last 14 years that wealth had become concentrated in a way not seen since the days of Charles Dickens. The resources are there if they were more evenly shared.
So called "Illegal Immigration" (small boats) accounts for just 4% of UK immigration
The UK takes only 0.6% of the world's refugees despite our being the sixth largest economy
Home Office stats show over 80% of asylum seekers have valid reason under international law to remain in the UK
The last govt had effectively shifted the blame working people feel for the inequities in UK life away from the mega rich and onto the migrants.
While at the same time making those inequalities far greater and running out public services into the ground.
The new govt have had less that four weeks in office - yet are being blamed by the right for the state of the country after 14 years of mismanagement.
I really don't get burning a Citizens Advice. Heck, its a charity and there for them!
At least Tommy ten names Yaxley Pillock practices what he preaches "if you don't like our laws leave" well so long Tommy, don't let the door hit you on your way out.
And the Daily Mail has published information about his, and his family's, location. And certain demographic people have gone on social media to say if anyone from a certain religion sees him while they are on holiday they should do him in, and one said he might go on holiday and get him himself. I am referring to the peaceful people, Starmer's special, chosen, protected ones.
Yaxley-Pillock,excellent! God, I wish I'd thought of that!
A man that changed his name to protect his family, why ever would he need to do that ?
You are a complete bellend obviously you can't be English
He is on holiday. Don't be angry because you can't blame him for everything.
I’m glad Richie Sunak isn’t discussing what to do regarding the riots. He would want an inquiry which would report when it’s too late. #gamblegate #partygate etc. We are still waiting.
Tail end of Tories , was never going to be easy after 14 years, but never thought this. I wonder if the Russian links of the right wing are at play?
I see it partly that a lot of those thugs would have voted for "Reform" and saw their votes destroy the Tories and allow Labour in.
more like the Globalist links of both sides
100% 👍🏼 morons can't even tell when they are being manipulated
Certainly are. It has been demonstrated.
And the Bannon boys
This is a make or break moment for the country as a whole do we give in to our basic instincts and embrace anger and hatred
Or do we rise above it and become better people history has a really nasty way of repeating itself let's not be "those" people
Depends whether the government start to listen to the people and make changes.
And stop branding everyone who disagrees and/or protests as far right. If so many people are 'far right' then the definition of far right MUST be wrong.
@@DeltaMikeTorrevieja anyone burning down towns shouting Islamophobic slurs are far right. If you want a legitimate discussion about immigration then stop aligning yourself with violent criminals
@@DeltaMikeTorreviejaso many? There were thousands of violent, jobless thugs not millions. And since when did England take orders from violent criminals? Should keir take orders from inside strangeways now? Ridiculous
Very well said.
@@DeltaMikeTorrevieja Anyone who goes after innocent people for the colour of their skin, or believes in this "England for the English, non whites out" shite, is absolutely far-right. And we're going to keep calling you out for what you most obviously are; racists, fascists, nazi-sympathising wasters.
"The finger wag of Suella Braverman", just what I was thinking and then you voiced it. Thanks a lot Professor Tim
but the police was happy to spectate while men in stoke waving knives and machetes, why
Were there police there? Enough now be outnumbered by the crowd? The video from stoke I saw didn't have any police in at all.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 your blind then,the vid on x has them clearly in the vid with vans
I would like to pose a question to you Professor Wilson , if I may .I despise right wing activists and agitators , but to ensure a more balanced and nuanced examination of the current volatile events - I wonder if you are going to comment on the roaming Muslim Defence League and the reason why vast swathes of British people feel a sense of despair and indignation in the manner in which they have been marginalised .I speak from the perspective of a man in his sixties who has a Turkish father and has witnessed a seismic change in the social and culture face of England .
Government should state the possible jail sentences of two years or more for participants in a riot.
Far to short
If you get five years for planning a peaceful protest on a zoom call it should be 10 years for actually rioting and criminal damage.Plus putting peoples lives in danger including the emergency services.
Starmer shows no sign of understanding the reasons behind this. If he doesn’t he is no leader or statesman. Nothing so far in the reaction has been good enough.
So what's his responsibility as he hasn't been in power until this year... You going to blame him for the last 10 years of illegal immigration?
Like him i fail to understand 🤔 please elaborate what needs to be understood?
@@fablewallsone of the problems is the narrative, Asylum seekers aren't illegal till they've had their claim rejected and then avoided leaving illegally. Many of those against asylum seekers are really just against immigration but realise how that would make them look...
No evidence to support your contention given the advice Starmer will receive from various agencies
Don't expect him to wipe up your tears .He is prime minister not mammypammy.If you wish to wallow +wear your sorrow has a badge of honor. You may find out doing so is a solitary game Best wishes to you 🌹
Here's a fitting quote re what you say about indirect hints from Farage etc. From 1984:
'Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflection of the voice; at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it?'
I think you problem is that you neglect what ordinary people deduce for themselves without any help from Farage. The average person is not interested in politics. Politicians like to think they are, but honestly, they only give it a fleeting thought.
There is no excuse for violence and it is counterproductive. But there is an overwhelming fear being felt by millions of ordinary law abiding citizens that uncontrolled immigration is introducing cultures that are not compatible with the long standing British way of life. The PM does not understand this and neither do you.
Farage probably has something to do with this.
He's one of the major pieces on the board (a bishop or a knight, maybe) - but he's not a king or queen - other more shadowy influencers yet to be identified.
You know the majority of muslims want their children protected too. KS has flamed the divisions deliberately.
I belive Starmer is orchestrating it for his own political ends, to introduce his one party totalitarian state.
I blame Putin.
For sure.
Pov: We should all look within - man in the mirror!! It's all a reflection of our state of being!
Spreading the love, not hate ❤️
Thanks, most unhelpful.
Nice idea but the summer of love only lasted one summer(1967?) Even rarer than a decent summer weather-wise.
Amazing how many people were filming it on there phones like a fun day out what have we become
Anti-white atrocities taking out future mothers, what have we become
You cannot have 'diversity' and 'unity' at the same time.
Oh yes you can, but only if you have humanity first.
@@mosarkar2097 They are diametrically opposed. Opposites.
The scenes of these riots are reminiscent of documentaries about Kristallnacht in 1938 Germany. Fortunately the British police have strived hard to contain the riots otherwise things could have got extremely nasty. In Germany the leader ordered that the authorities must not get involved. Thankfully Starmer has taken a very firm opposite stance.
Brexit made it OK to hate other people.
Rubbish. People have been hating each other since time begun.
Yes - that's what fascists, Trump maga, Farage Reform etc the Braverman tories do
@@valeriemcdermott9423 One has to differentiate. I have never hated anybody in my life. The question is how hate can be abolished. I appreciate your statement but just saying "since time begun" does not mean that the anti German mails I reveived ("Germany should disappear from the maps") and anti EU mails (The EU is full of Nazis) should be justified in this way.
@@godehardbrysch7905 Grow up.
@@valeriemcdermott9423 Dear Valerie, I'm elderly, you even find my name on Wikipedia but in a different context. I'm married, 3 children, one grandchild,, academic but from a very humble origin. I speak 3 languages.
For more than half a century I have come to the UK regularly especially to Stratford-upon-Avon. I don't mind what you said, wish you a happy week.
The only way to deal with fascism is with the army and improvised detention. otherwise, it becomes them probing for potential further action. History lesson!
You've pointed fingers...but quite simply the disorder must stop and a serious conversation must ensue otherwise what will change.
He's obsessed with NF and TF but does not address the real issues
@@oliverkent8429and what are the real issues so we can start sensible conversation
Spot on. Agree with every word.
When many British people are and feel like they’re under occupation and treated as 3rd class citizens then there was always going to be a reaction.
But they aren't being treated like that though.
Most Muslims want children safe to but KS has deliberately fanned the divide.
@@PaulStargasmThey absolutely are 2 tier policing 2 tier Mainstream Media and Muslims put first
@@Jamie-uk2zh You sound like one of the rioters, pushing all the buttons
@@thomasmoore1499The people have tried voting to reduce immigration for over a decade and the political class didn’t listen
It could all have been avoided if successive Tory and Labour parliaments had listened years ago.
I agree with a lot of what you say here, but its definitely worth pointing out that many of these people are chanting Tommy Robinson. Much like Farage, hes an agitator for the hard of thinking, stirs them up, then steps back and pretends hes nothing to do with it, whilst these chumps get sent to prison.
The old fascist /Trump playbook.
Spot on.
I am concerned about even further the stranglehold over our civil liberties by the surveillance state due to the rent a mob thugs. Very sad for us all.
Well he certainly hit the ground running, along with half the youth in the country carrying bottles and bricks.
Are you a Daily Mail reader sucking up their bile? Sounds like it. Why are you commenting on this basically decent channel?
I believe the British Public would prefer to pay taxes and give the strength back to our Public Services so that society can deal with problems, including those groups who threaten minorities with violence. The Conservatives have taken away so many of the safeguards which we need. They really meant “No such thing as Society” all those years ago.
Ah socislism. But the media despise it. They pretend it is communism or theft. Pretend that those sentiments are extreme. Denigrate those who champion them as naive and foolish. Remove the whip from them and mock them.
The concerns of ordinarily law-abiding people about NHS waiting lists, the water/sewage supply not being able to cope, housing shortages, overcrowded schools etc due to the massive influx of extra people have now been diffused and deleted by some sinister force rounding up the yobs for a burn up and labeling it a right-wing crank fest. Perhaps when Tony Blair let in 5 million extra people on the pretext that the native working class was lazy and greedy in their charges he could have considered letting out his 38 properties to cope with the extra housing needed.
All the problems you mentioned started with Thatcher including freedom of movement. Most immigration has actually been beneficial to us. Problems with asylum seekers being dealt with are all down to the last Tory government they created boat people when there was no need.
And didn't the economy do well with the help of those immigrants. NHS waiting lists went down to an all time low and its services were ranked best in the world.
Under Blair a massive regeneration programme was introduced for schools. The Tories cancelled it.
Our water systems were fit to drink from and swim in, food banks were a rarity.
The Tories didn't build any affordable housing and underfunded the councils so heavily they couldn't afford to replace the social housing that had been sold off.
Immigration has more than QUADRUPLED under the Tories but instead of the immigrants being white Christian Europeans as they were they're Asians, many of them Muslim, and Africans.
@@jmas1219 You obviously don't want to remember that before Blair we could access a GP 24/7. Labour caved into doctor's demands for extra money and left us with the legacy that we could now only be ill between 9-5 weekdays except on wednesdays.You obviously don't remember the news reports of people queuing around corners to see a dentist..Labour selling off NHS properties to private equity firms so now hospitals pay rent on properties they once owned..and you cannot seem to equate that water/sewage supplies are now struggling to cope because of all the extra people using them. The NHS has never been the best in the world despite being the world's third or fourth largest employer with the Chinese Army being in front.
@@Comfortzone99 Get your facts right. The decline of our water is purely down to greed and cost-cutting by the private water companies. Not once has their been a credible link to outsized demand being the problem. Neither water, dentistry, the NHS, housing, or any of those things you mention, were addressed by the Conservatives. They had 14 years to do it and they didn't lift a finger. Too busy syphoning off public funds to their mates via dodgy contracts.
Women got the vote after violent protests, and workers gained votes after violent protests, and the Irish gained independence after violent protests. It might be that there is a point to these protests - the end of a political class that jailed subpostmasters while allowing Baroness Mone and Paula Vennels to walk free.
Are you seriously comparing people fighting for their basic rights with a bunch of racists that believe misinformation to push their hatred against people with brown skin
@@PiperStart I love how since it came out that the Southport attacker was born in Wales, is Christian and comes from an integrated family then suddenly these violent riots clearly directed at Muslims, immigrants and refugees are suddenly for every other societal issue they can think of caused by 14 years of Tory rule but are somehow Labour and Starmers fault who have only been in power for a few weeks.
I think the reason the far right is pushing so hard now is because it will be harder to mobalise people once the NHS waiting lists are going down and more housing is built. It's alot harder to blame immigrants when systems are working as they should and not being broken and stalled by money grabbing Tories trying to privatise everything and maximise personal profits for them and their mates.
well said, they use to say you use the ballot box to get change, but that does not work neither does peaceful protest
Wow. You've glossed over a whole bunch of differences there while lumping a lot of different historical events under one category called "violent protests." I'm not in the mood to write an essay length comment, but taking just one of your examples, women's suffrage. The Suffragettes certainly did indulge in civil disobedience but their "violence" as you put it was very mild. They smashed windows and chained themselves to railings to get themselves arrested as martyrs. There was one who threw herself under the King's horse at the Derby, I believe. She died. They never attacked other people or committed serious property damage with potential loss of live. Your other examples are equally inaccurate.
Except reform were on the ballot a few weeks ago and lost. Get over it.
I think leaving TR alone, would lead to other issues, its priorities, lets get to him after his little empire of hate has been dismantled, saying that I agree with most you touched on so far.
- Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences.
Or a long list of racist dog whistling tropes followed by the suffix "just sayin'".
Or the Farage favourite where he "just asks questions."
It's as old as the hills. See Mark Anthony's speech in Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar", where he riles up the crowd into a frenzy of murderous hate, over Caesar's corpse, by adding the phrase "and Brutus is an honourable man" to every sentence that focuses the crowds rage against Brutus. I can see something very similar happening now against Keir Starmer on the various right wing websites. I don't know if Starmer has gone on holiday. That's a gross dereliction of duty, not only to the country but to HIMSELF. Brutus' big mistake as in the Shakespeare play was to leave Mark Anthony alone with the Roman mob. Anthony was allowed to say what he liked. Starmer MUST be in charge but most importantly, must be SEEN to be in charge. The country is in danger of sliding into anarchy and chaos and that is VERY dangerous. He cannot leave the country to the directions emanating from GB News, TalkTV, or Lawrence Fox's Twitter account.
PS Starmer isn't on holiday. I read somewhere that he was. Incorrect information evidently.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Tory loving press having a go at him, he's only been PM for weeks, and the press are blaming this horror on Starmer, not the last 14 years of racist abusive language by Farage etc. Don't forget, this started after the murder of three children, how the hell is that Starmer's fault?
All the Gbeebies crowd are slamming him.
It's not for nothing that many of these knuckle draggers were shouting 'Stop the Boats' Prof.
Because of the hatred stirred up by rightwing politicians and media outlets!
Sheer Karma!
And now I’ll hear 🎶He’s mister Stochastic…🎶 (to the tune of that Mr Bombastic song) every time I see that twonk Farage 😅
I hope it fades out but I've got a feeling it'll get worse and the prisons are full already.
Send them to Rwanda then.
@@PaulStargasmwho the rioters?
@@echobay5040 Yes, it's a Chrisitan country, they'll be fine... They'll feel right at home.
@@PaulStargasm Deeply ironic, but fitting - given the ethnic origin of the Christian parents of the psychopathic killer who started all this.
@yangtse55
There is a story there obviously. The comments section of a YT video is not an appropriate place for speculation. The 17 year old now in custody will be seen not just by police officers but by psychiatrists. There will be some unpicking to be done there. It's something best left to the professionals.
"Actively encouraging anti-immigration sentiment" is one thing and criticizing the governments mass immigration policies is another. Please do not conflate the two.
'The poorer sort "...are carried more by rumours without a head, than by the truth of things.."
(A quote from a reference in 'A. Fox: Rumour News And Popular Political Opinion In Elizabethan And Early Stuart England" (Historical Journal 40: 1997 p599)_
Sir Starmers talks of protecting one ethnicity, not a wise comment for legal type. We are all equal and as such an crime against one individual is a crime against that country's law abiding citizens.
There is an actual problem though isn't there. The Conservatives were attempting a solution to irregular arrivals while Labour have cancelled it without having any solution of their own.
Not for the first time have I expressed doubts about the integrity of Amazon and Utube in respecct to their codes. Their partisanship and bias is not patent, but it operates in such a way as to arouse suspicion.
As a citizen I detest rioters, and that is within the law. According to the Law rioters should be read the riot act, and told to disperse; if they do not they run into peril because once the riot act is read it is legitimate to shoot them. Now I have criticised the principal culprits for stirring up this synthetic indignation; I have named them; first and foremost Nigel Farage and all those of his ilk and the social media that ferment these riots and do so using incendiary language about our elected government and its prime minister, and the comments about Mr Bair, Sir Keir Starmer, Joe Biden, Kamela Harris are intended to ferment hostility, and I wonder about the integrity of a code which allows peopl to recommend defunding the RNLI, or which requires the Navy to defend the nation against beleagured civilians, which endorses a rapist and a swindler as a candidate for the USA but denigrates people who have achieved their distinction by practising the law. It is a strange code that allows a David Starkey to advance views which are not history, and have no historical authenticity, but criticises the prime minister for attending a meeting of governments, and describes these in the caricature of 'jollies'
Well let me be clear I detest riots, and I detest rioters, and I deplore the hostility being generated against sections of the community indiscriminately and beleaguered civilians. and it is surely within the code to express disdain for the riots, and those inciting them, and it surely not in the code to libel and slander a prime minister for doing his job, or to libel Joe Biden, who is rated by people with some measure of authority, as one of the great Presidents. What, or who, is this code protecting? It seems to me to be the case, as with Amazon that there are pernicious pressures being exerted by people who do not mind generateting hatred but detest criticism or suspicion of those fomenting the trouble.
Having studied Fascism, My father being driven out of his country because of Fascism, I can legitimately, with cited authorities, identify the culprits of the Holocaust, as Lower middle class. It was those sections of the community that raised the hatred of the Jews, and it those same section of the community being incited to hate Moslems and immigrants.
I have provided the correct Procedure to deal with rioters, if that is hate speech then the law contravenes Amazon and U tubes bizarre codes. If I have trespassed against the code it is pointing out that modern technology, and the computer have changed the Labour Market in Favour of Women and it is that, and not immigrants that have disadvantaged the lower middle class male, who is as a result of the technology rendered defunct and obsolete and I have suggested that were women to discover the secret of synthesising sperm it is not only their brains that are surplus to requirements, and I have asked what this section of the community is worth, and I have in a spirit of loving kindness suggested that although their brains are not of much use, and their muscle obsolete, and their sexual prowess in danger, they should not despair of being entirely without worth, if rendered down to Meat and bone -meal the crops would adore them.
As I citizen I object to this conspiracy against Democracy which is an extension of Brexit. It has done immense harm to Britain at home and abroad, and I not not hesitate to lay the blame for the imminent death of the UK on Farage, Murdoch, the Rich Wing Media, Reform and their ilk , and Truth cannot, as Anne Bronte remarks in his feisty preface to the second edition of her controversial book 'Tenant of Wildfell Hall', offend. And the Truth is not hate speech, and it is not contravening the law to cite the law, and it is not creating synthetic hatred of immigrants or asylum seekers, certainly not suggesting we sink their boats, in the spirit of a Christian Country, so who is objecting. It is a question we should all ask and demand be answered. I
Another academic having trouble seeing the wood for the trees 😂
Explain? Because I find Tim actually very astute. So explain where he's going wrong then rather than posting a vague and nebulous comment
@@vinylrulesok8470 You're clearly the one being obtuse here Mr Vinyl Hipster.
The government has got to show that they intend to stop the troubles and show no mercy
"The troubles" brings an image most of us would rather avoid. If martial law or military are used in response, the cycle will be extended and factions more entrenched. And no, I don't have a better idea.
Can we please talk about the Muslims with knives, hammers & metal rods you can not condem just one side when both are clearly involved in criminal activity many many people have been stabbed by these Muslim men let's take a look at the whole picture please instead of only pushing blame on one side labeling everyone who apposed mass migration the stabing of a soldier outside his home and the riots in leeds fare right this is weak to say the least by calling everyone fare right you are trying to take away their voices & freedom of speech sorry but everyone needs to come together and listen to each other and the concerns of everyone to get anywhere otherwise this is going to escalate into civil war.
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I'm afraid the Prof's a left leaning academic - surely a tautology nowadays.
Dr Peterson seems to be the only academic with even the slightest right leaning which obviously gets labelled as 'far right' as does anyone that is to the right of the far left.
Professor have you watched Jeremy Corbyn the big lie. I really don't think you have. Please look it up. It will put a different perspective on the kind of person Keir Starmer is
a sure way to stop the unrest is turn back the boats in the English Channel "Simple"
? Weirdness has come to these comments !!
Really i didn't see any of them ruining local communities the people these terrorists are supposed to be protecting
@@edwardgibb1453 Punctuation is a wonderful thing
What's 'harmful rhetoric'? A viewpoint you disagree with?
Anything not woke.
Please address the Two Tier policing that is clearly going on with different communities…. And, appropriately 5,000 more illegal immigrants have entered our country in small boats since Labour took office.
The ordinary men and women of this country have reached breaking point.
To me, both Starmer and Cooper can’t understand why this unrest is happening.
They need to bring the Police, Far Right AND the Far Left together around the table to bring this unrest to a halt. IMO
Who was rioting? Was it the refugees? No it wasn't was it? Most people don't give a damn about the refugees, its a minority of trouble makers and rabble rousers who are to blame. Are you saying the rioters looting Greggs are right?
Well, they have united both communities in Northern Ireland, that's a start.
There is no 2 tier of policing and no far left involved, so there's no need to sit around the table. All that is needed is for the far right to stop picking up the tables & chairs and throwing them through windows
Justice (fairness) is the single most important feature of any society, and social justice is part of that. I know I keep banging on about this, but you can't have a cohesive, inclusive, fair society with huge gaps in equality of access to the benefits of society.
@mike747436 funny how nothing said to communities that have raped and intimidated also done plenty of rioting when it suits.
You only have to look at the riots in Leeds the other week to see how differently they are spoken about and treated.
Even the prof on here was making the usual allowances for their behaviour claiming it was all down to being a deprived area so none of it is their fault they’re just all poor misunderstood souls who need more taxpayers money and compassion and everything will be alright.
Of course nothing could be further from the truth as they don’t view this as their home, in their eyes it’s just temporary accommodation until something better comes along or they’ve milked enough live comfortably back in their real homelands.
Had they dealt with Leeds promptly and promptly the other week it wouldn’t have snowballed as it has but they’re too worried to upset their voter base.
I’m not excusing any of this stupid behaviour as I believe it plays into government hands and Starmer really knew what he was doing with his speech, no doubt they’ll fast track more draconian laws as it’s their favourite pastime
I’m English , if I lived in Scotland or Wales or came on a boat -I’d be entitled to free dental care - if I’d been in the services and suffered PTSD I’d be one of many living on the streets whilst others who’ve done nothing live in hotels - - during WW2 and other conflicts , Ukraine The UK has always taken in refugees - and it’s always women and children - I’d guess if the last 10,000 boat people less than 100 are women and children , why would they leave their loved ones if they’re fleeing a war zone -
Let's not forget this all kicked off after the murder of three little girls (and the attempted murder of seven others) in Southport.
Which had nothing to do with asylum seekers so your point is?
The perpetrator of that act was not an 'immigrant'. He is British, born in Wales.
The drunken mob that turned up in Southport did not go there to pay their respects. They exploited
the tragic event.
@@daydays12 The fact that his Rwandan mother just happened to hover her vajayjay over Cardiff when sharting him out does not make him 'British'.
@@jeffsimon9594 vomit 😞
It is always those behind the curtain or waiting in the wings to come forward like a champion of right, but whom originally started the fire.
They are shameful, hollow and despicable, but sadly followed by a flock of sad idiots.
I do not condone violence in any form, for any reason. Starmer referred to those staying in these hotels as "residents", how can an illegal immigrant who has not been processed be classed as a resident ? He could have said, "guests" but whose guests ? Not mine. Social housing is in such short supply, many British families have been on the waiting lists for years, yes, years, and while I welcome a new initiative to build more social housing, at 10, 000 new houses a year, it will take ten years just to house those who have arrived in the last few years, while more will arrive this week. Starmer's comments merely focus on blame, which is symptomatic of a person who has no answers and who refuses to accept any blame on their part. The House of Commons should hold their head in shame, because they are clearly failing to address the needs and concerns of the people of Britain.
Shuddap.
You must learn not to resent others .Patriotism is the very last bastion of the worst type of scoundrels. 🌹
The need for a large amount of asylum seeker accommodation is the Tories refusing to process claims quickly and removing safe routes/asylum application from abroad. If the only accommodation requirement was 20 - 30,000 granted asylum then it would be very obvious that the problem was a lack of house building.
Rupert 😂🤮 your name already makes you sound like a ra,cist nonce. Dont add to it by barfing out your true nature.
Not illegal to claim asylum, they are residents of the building.
You've been groomed.
Come on guys,you cannot threaten or blame individuals in these hotels.Apart from the cheek of crossing Chanel,anyone could be this situation.If you want anyone to blame,it should be politicians.Same with police and emergency workers.
I'm 70 and I'm going to join the next protest in London.Im not far right.These are happening in my view from poverty.£ 8 million a day is being spent on illegal immigrants when I've had my winter fuel allowance taken away.I can't access a doctor hospital or god forgive I get a toothache.Thats why these young people are protesting.Its gone to far a brave politician neads to step up and stop illegal immigration tomorrow
Coming on a boat to the uk and requesting assylum id not illegal.
If your 70 then you should have years and sense enough that it is the Tory Party that has destroyed Britain and bankrupted the nation, and who took us out of Europe, when we had controls on who came here. Fuppin' astonishing you mention none of that.
I’m facing all of these things. I’m not involving myself in this thuggery.
Dear me. All of that is down to 14 years of Tory government where they wrecked public services and weaponised immigration. Labour has been in power for 4 weeks, during which time the likes of Farage and his ilk have determined to drive these riots and destabilise the country and the new government. Stay away from the protest because it’ll quickly become violent and please give the government a chance to fix things.
"First they came for the ... but I was not a ...."
I wish I had your vocabulary. You explain things in a way that cannot be misunderstood. Thank you.
thank you
I thought prisons were already at bursting point. However, the toolmakers son's approach to two tier policing is what I find most concerning.
I believe Starmer is set to give early releases to murders and rapists and other genuine criminals in order to free up space for the white working class protestors.
I'm sorry are the police not supposed to arrest people damaging property, attacking people, starting fires or looting now if they are white?
There is no two tier policing. It is not even clear what that means, it’s just a talking point that can mean different things to different people.
Anyway, policing has been run down for years under the Tory governments to the point where its effectiveness has dropped much like all other public services.
What's his fathers job got to do with anything/ anyone????????
@@paulb9003 The police respond harder to white people and take it easy on foreigners. Two tier policing.
I beg to differ on "diversity". Nature designed genetics in such a way that races of humans lived apart in homogenous communities. Entrance by others was always by permission and never permanent. Communities were more peaceful, better organised and generally more harmonious in that configuration, and endured for thousands of years. It was only when migrations and invasions began that social systems began to corrupt and break down. I know we have to live with the reality of migration in these times, but it is problematic and always will be.
STARMER, NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, NOT THE REACTION TOTAL FAILURE OF GOVERNMENT
Terrible use of commas. Do better.
@@bwright227Grammarophobia
He is, but it’s a complex issue and isn’t going to be resolved in the three weeks these idiots have given him.
What 'problem'. Thugs on the streets pillaging shops or burning cars? Or peaceful people fleeing oppression?
@@daydays12 you talking about BLM, or MDL ?
Prof. Your hatred of Tomy and Nigel appears to know no bounds!
Your criticism of these men using such terminology is Uncalled for ,you need to look in mirror and then think about what you have just said.
Starmer the spark,. He turns a blind eye to the other smaller population, should be one law for all.
It is deliberate control most Muslims also want their children safe.
@@marumaru6084English children are not safe in uk while gov panda to the Muslims.
How can Starmer be responsible since his government has only been in power for a month, please try to explain ?
@@thomasmoore1499Starmer is PM, he’s only doing as he’s told and carrying on from the Tory’s, This have been planned for decades the destruction of European people including Uk. We don’t live in a democracy it’s an illusion. Learn some history.
@@thomasmoore1499 He's not, it's the FEARage & Co.Agenda...
Or as corrupt as it wants to be....!!!
I recall the 80's when we had a ' far right' the right doesn't concern me at all, child targeting, knife weilding immigrants on the other hand.......
The far right have always been thickos. They just need a bit of sense knocking into them and they might just get it next weekend.
Your post implies that colour of skin dictates the ability to be evil. The evidence suggests otherwise.
Criminality doesn't have a skin colour. Lucy Letby was a child killer but no protests there. The majority of prisoners in the UK are white (and probably from a Christian background).
When someone targets children and wields a knife, an episode of Who Do You Think You Are isn't the top priority.
@@danmayberry1185the stabbing is abhorrent and so are the riots. It’s possible to be horrified by all manner of hatred and evil