Nobody Likes Milhouse - The Story of "The Dud"
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Nobody likes Milhouse, especially The Simpsons writers. Let's take a look at why the dud is the dud.
Music Selections:
PART 1 (KIRK & LUANN)
1:30 "Mercenary Boxing" (Street Fighter II) by Malcos
• Blood on the Asphalt: ...
5:53 “Like a Dream” (Dark Souls II) by RoeTaKa
• OC ReMix #3119: Dark S...
PART 2 (LISA)
8:48 “Funky's Tricks” (Donkey Kong Country 3) by Malcos
• 3-09 Funky's Tricks (F...
11:57 “The Icy Journey Through Hope and Sorrow” (Sonic and the Black Knight) by Argle
• OC ReMix #3054: Sonic ...
15:10 “Chasing Waterfalls” (Donkey Kong Country 3) by Blue Magic
• OC ReMix #3199: Donkey...
PART 3 (BART)
17:34 “Dan's Ice Cream Truck” (Street Fighter Alpha 2) by Joshua Morse & posu yan
• OC ReMix #1429: Street...
20:46 “Lost Forever” (Final Fantasy VI) by Krank
• OC ReMix #2079: Final ...
22:42 “A Healer's Touch” (Final Fantasy V) by Level 99 & Avaris
• OC ReMix #2230: Final ...
PART 4 (MILHOUSE)
24:27 "In Bayshire" (Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's: Duel Transer) by Radiowar
• Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's: Duel T...
26:07 "Mario Ascends to the Clouds" (Super Mario Land) by Argle
• OC ReMix #2629: Super ...
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When doing the Season 17 vid last year and seeing the Italian Milhouse B-plot, it made me realize I have never really talked about Milhouse. I've been doing long-form videos for like 5 years. I've made 2 different Nelson videos. But nothing about Bart's Friend. So I wanted to figure out why I haven't really connected with Milhouse as a character.
(And then it accidentally turned into my longest video essay.) 🤣
You should do a Simpsons History on Apu
@@giovanniorellana2200I agree
Or CB guy
@@giovanniorellana2200 At this point it might as well be an Apu memorial
@@bobkerr2755exactly, I also find it interesting that Mulhouse is white and they hate him, kinda consistent with the governments politics of the day isn't it ?
You could even call him an incel, and yet, unlike Apu nobody is going to demand they change it to accommodate their feelings ...
I wonder why ? Don't you think it interesting? I do ? Heck his voiced by a woman !!!! Why aren't people demanding a white male voice the character now ? Hmmmmm
Milhouse's highest point in Simpsons history will always be him entering his name into bonestorm, "Thrillhouse"
*Thrillho
Highest point was tricking me into thinking "Everything's coming up Milhouse!" was an actual expression for bad situations with some minor good in them, so all these last few years ive been exclaiming "Everything's coming up Milhouse!" only for no one to know what the hell I'm talking about.
Welcome Thrillho
“Mom barts swearing!”
If you can't handle him at his Milpool, you don't deserve him at his Thrillho.
Remember the time he ate my goldfish, and you lied to me and said I never had any goldfish?
Then why’d I have the bowl, Bart?
Why did I have the bowl?
Simpsons Mysteries: Why did he have the bowl?
“You we’re collecting small objects, and the bowl was convenient for that!”
my favorite part about that joke is that bart perceives that as a fond memory
@@NyQuilDonutconclusion: amnesia induced purchases
Favourite milhouse quote 😊
FUN FACT: Colin, the Irish boy that Lisa has a crush on in the movie, was originally going to be Milhouse, but test audiences for an early version of the film "didn't know who he was"
Which is hilarious since he's a pretty big wheel in Bart episodes.
straight white male
and this is why test audiences suck.
Didn't know who he was...so they put someone that nobody would know instead???
Can't wait for the 45 minute Brain Dump episode defending Milhouse.
If you can't handle me at my Milpool you don't deserve me at my Thrillhouse
MilpooL_____
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Thrillho*
Gold standard post
But his mom says he's cool!
We know she doesn't mean that. It's just something she says to foist him off on Kirk.
@@mitchfletcher2386his dad is a big deal at the cracker factory tbf
Next!
Milhouse mom is cool. She parties
Well she’s wrong!
Milhouse is weird because he's directly impacted by Bart's extreme level of inconsistency at school. Sometimes Bart is extremely popular, sometimes he's unpopular. Sometimes he's scared of Nelson, sometimes he's best buds with Nelson. Sometimes Bart's only friend is Milhouse and they're twin loners, sometimes Bart's only friend is milhouse but it's clear Bart is using him and "wears the pants", sometimes all of the boys are mutual friends with specific dynamics. Bart's inconsistent characterization forces Milhouse to be maligned because who he is relative to Bart and the other boys changes drastically even when he himself hasn't changed.
That's kind of the life of a teenage boy.
Say what you will, main character syndrome is pretty common between 9-15.
Woah
I really like that they sometimes don't even say his name and just call him "Bart's friend".
Kirk is Bart's friend dad
You might have internalised a TheRealJims running joke there (based on a real episode title)
Homer once referred to him as “the little wiener, who always has his hands in his pockets”…or at least I think he was taking about Milhouse.
@@princessmarlena1359Milton
Or that weirdo or like in Lisa's sax abou who seems to act homsexul
Favorite joke with Milhouse was when Bart got him on the most wanted list.... somehow.
Though Milhouse was somehow able to outrun the FBI more than once (“oh no, not again!” he replies when he’s at school).
Oh no, not again....
I'm telling you, I didn't do anything.
@@Killermike2178I don’t care
@@PeacefulZealot 'jumps into the depths' My glasses!!
Milhouse’s greatest W will always be that .25 seconds that acknowledged him as a Master Builder in the Lego Movie.
Fun fact: In the Lego movie the video game when they show that scene from the movie they actually blur Milhouse out!(I assume they didn't bother to get the rights)And so the balance of the universe was restored.
@@FormalGibble Remember that time that I was in the lego movie, but you lied to me and said that I was never in the movie? Then why was there a blur in the video game Bart? Why was there a blur?
*h u h ?*
Kirk is special from a writer's perspective, because Milhouse is already "The Loser", so to have a character who is A Loser TO the Loser is important.
so this is my life... at least I'm doing better than dad
"Everything is coming up millhouse" is one of my favorite lines in all of Simpsons one of the top 10
"Hey, they're working! My feet are soaked, but my cuffs are bone-dry!"
My mom and I both say that whenever either of us is experiencing a streak of good luck.
That and "Remember [insert character here]? He's back, in pog form!" are definitely two lines that I quote way too often. They're just downright iconic.
It's metaphoric to his life in general. His life is so lame that he is happy to have dry cuffs amidst the obvious setback of having completely soaked feet.
@@FunnyLittleFella the character was Alf
My favorite Milhouse bit, the one that I think sums up his entire character the best, is actually from that one cowboy episode that people hate for whatever reason.
When Bart goes missing, Milhouse asks if anyone wants to be his new friend. Ralph then sits next to him and Milhouse says "Perfect! Now I'll finally be the one in charge!" Ralph then bluntly tells him to shut up and he sadly complies.
That's Milhouse right there, the absolute bottom of the pecking order.
Damn, that's brutal.
Jesus I forgot about that
Milhouse: "Yes! Finally, I'll be the dominant one."
Ralph: "Be quiet."
Milhouse: "Yes, master..."
The closest Milhouse gets to a spotlight episode is probablt when he becomes Fallout Boy
He does have to share the spot light with Bart, but he has his own arc regarding the pressures of fame.
Jimmy Jiliquers.
The goggles do nothing
Milhouse is arguably one of the most influential characters of the whole series because he’s the only one to have a successful band named after him
Milhouse already has his spotlight. Remember that time when he reincarnated into Butters?
The slow realization by Homer, when Bart picks "The Dud" card, when Bart, Homer, Milhouse and Marge are playing the board game at the Flander's beach house, will always get me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He looks like you, Poindexter...
@@bazblackadder Stand up for yourself Poindexter
Milhouse DESRVES 2 spaghetti meals
Lisa said Milhouse was like a big sister to her. That was nice.
I've been friend zoned before but never big sister zoned. Not sure how Milhouse survived hearing that from his crush
"Why does everyone keep saying that!?"
@@bobkerr2755the friends one isn't a thing tho. Someone not wanting to fuck you doesn't put you into any special zone, it's actually the default
“Sure thing! What are big sisters for?”
*10 seconds later*
“Oh I shouldn’t have said that”
@@DimT670 That's not what the friend zone is
Milhouse might not have any cool moments, but Thrillhouse is like Max Power amplified by 1000.
or Chillhouse, or if he's barbecuing he could be Grillhouse
Thrillho? That's guy's just the dud.
I absolutely love the visual style of your editing. It feels so lively while only using screenshots
totally agree with this
I like it too but I sometimes wish he could put some short clips in to add more context
@@aidanpeterbioI think the content id system would pick up pretty quickly if he used clips and audio. either that or fox lawyers...
@@aidanpeterbio I'd rather not have the Fox Nauts storm his channel because of bs thank you very much
It is a nice way to sidestep youtube's copyright BS.
This one hit pretty damn hard for me, because I lived the Milhouse life. I was weak, sickly, picked on constantly, and even looked like him, but with a more reasonable nose. My dynamic with my best friend was the same as with Bart, and the love interest with Lisa was similar. I had a girl who loved me, only to have her taken away by family, just like Samantha Stanky. Hell, even my parents' separation was pretty bad. My friend started calling me The Dud and Poindexter, because we watched Simpsons constantly, back when it was on 4 times a weekday. It was pretty shitty, considering, just like Marge said, we were all we had. So, eventually, I became a moody loner, which actually got me some girlfriends.
Things got better when I finally moved out of that shitty city. I made a life for myself with a good job and a woman who loves me---reunited with my personal Samantha Stanky again! Everything's coming up Thrillhouse!
I don't know whether to laugh or cry for you
@@something6833 Same
I think you have actually managed to ruin the character for me. I don’t know if I will be able to look at him again without thinking about how bad you had it.
I already had mixed feelings about how the character was treated but this may have sealed the deal.
I am glad that things are better and that you managed to get away from all of that at least 🙂
@@Shannon4710
(Maniacal Milhouse cackling)?
Guess who Likes You
*Nelson looks around*
*Milhouse raises eyebrows*
*cut to a bloody Milhouse on stretcher being taken to Ambulance*
“Milhouse I’m so sorry”
“He can’t hear you now, we had to pack his ears with gauze”
Season 8 Episode 4
Burns: You food bag, do you have a son?
Homer: Yes Sir I do.
Burns: And is he a consent disappointment, does he bring home nitwits and make you talk with them.
Homer: Oh all the time, have you ever heard of this kid Milhouse, he's this little wiener ....
Homer constantly calling Milhouse a "wiener kid" always gets me laughing.
I think what this video helped me realize is that I can not think of a moment where I didn't like Milhouse being in a scene. That dorky optimism is always fun to have around. Even my favorite secondary character, moe, has some scenes that I can't stand, but for Milhouse, I am always happy to see him.
im the opposite cause i cant remember a scene where ive liked seeing him
Put that way, he's kind of like Zoidberg. "Hooray, people are paying attention to me!"
I think Milhouse does work by just being a dork. If you made him any more sympathetic you'd start to feel sorry for him and sap out a lot of the humor that comes directly from his obliviousness and lack of impact. I know Simpsons has plenty of characters that started off as jokes that had more depth added to them, like Moe, but sometimes, I think it's fine to just have someone fit the role of a type of kid you know, that's kind of pathetic and not much else.
@@CleaveTheDragon Damn yall cold as fuck. I have never really laughed at millhouse being straight-up bullied like he often is. I can't really see such a role being necessary at all. Make him less one sided lmao
@@olivercharles2930HOLY SHIT YES! I have finally found someone else with a similar opinion.
8:17 I did not need to know that there was a Milhouse wrist-cutting joke in the Simpsons but now... I know
I always read Lisa’s thing with Milhouse as a sins of the father dynamic where as much as Bart and Lisa are their own people and have the potential to forge their own paths, they both also contain the self destructive elements of their parents. Like Homer, Bart is lazy and lacks impulse control and much like Marge, Lisa is very precocious and active but struggles with internal melancholy and her compulsion to fix things. I can see Lisa convincing herself to fall for Milhouse initially out of compassion and respect for his loyalty only to resign herself to a life as his caregiver and as someone who can’t challenge her emotionally because she’s already constantly doing it to herself (think of who that sounds like). At the same time, this is what I think is fascinating about paring her with Nelson. Like Homer, he’s lazy, lacks impulse control, and tends to not be the best with people, but he also has some of Homer’s best qualities you don’t see in Milhouse. He’s innately compassionate, shows genuine respect for those he feels have earned it (like Lisa), he’s ambitious and proactive when he properly sets his mind to something, and he’s able to bring out the more mischievous and carefree side of people who might need it.
i never thought about it this way, this was so interesting to read !
I also think part of why Lisa chose Milhouse is because he makes her feel superior.
We've seen countless times that Lisa cannot handle competition. She has a pathological need to be the best. Milhouse is never going to challenge her.
Nah, Lisa only uses Millhouse as rebound.
@@PlanetZoidstarShe wants the cake and eat it too.
@@PlanetZoidstar This is actually one of my favourite negative traits in Lisa, and it also perfectly explains why every future with Milhouse has Lisa basically miserable. Competition and not being effectively the one in control is something Lisa can’t handle, but NEEDS. Her pairing with Nelson works perfectly and seems to yield happy endings because thats exactly what Nelson can do; he can challenge her and he can be proactive. It’s the part of her life that needs change, because she wouldn’t grow without facing it, and Milhouse would ultimately keep her stuck in a rut that she’d never escape, while Nelson can be the one to help her push forward in life, bc his character can give her an actual challenge in life.
I feel like Bart and Milhouse's relationship can be summed up with this line from "The Bart Wants What it Wants": "He's my best friend because...well...geographical convenience really."
The scene where Homer just straight up bullies a 10 year old is so insanely funny, I can't even...
I've always wondered why _The Milhouse Curse_ seems to spill over into the real world. His voice actor, Pamela Hayden, arguably has as much to do on the show as Hank Azaria. Milhouse is featured more frequently than either Moe or Wiggum. And Hayden is also Jimbo, Janey, and Lois Pennycandy.
And yet, Hank somehow made it onto that plinth of tier-1 non-family feature players. While Pamela is trapped on tier 2, with the expendable Maggie Roswell, and the late lamented Minnie Mouse. (Not to mention Matt Groening's favourite, the under-appreciated, cat-loving Babs Bunny.)
And I have one thing to say to that: _Boo-urns!_
Hey, on that note, have Martin or Sherri and Terri had any spoken lines since Taylor died? If so, who did them?
To be fair Moe is pretty top tier as far as side characters go
@@Marbles471Well, now they're voiced by Grey DeLisle Griffin. And yes, they've spoken plenty of times since then.
@@mitchfletcher2386Heck, Martin Prince got a spotlight episode a few years ago with Bart. I guess DeLisle made a good impression on everyone
To this day if something goes my way I say "Everything is coming up Milhouse!"
I think the main issue is that Bart is heavily defined by his relationship with others rather than his own belief in himself, and Bart heavily oscillates on how popular he is. How Bart treats Milhouse immediately defines where on the scale he is at the moment, whether they're two mutual misfits, whether Bart is a popular kid that Milhouse is his number one minion, and whether Bart has been entirely forsaken by all other kids.
The writers jump around between Bart being an aspirational most popular kid and Bart being a normal everyman kid, and so Milhouse must jump around to set that up every episode.
There's also a history of making jokes about childhood friendships by blatantly repurposing romance tropes, and Milhouse does that a lot
I feel like the ideal happy ending for Milhouse is that he grows up and finds a girl dud who inexplicably has the exact same face as him and they go on to live an utterly unremarkable, boring life where he's the third best middle manager in the second best performing division at Generic Co. Because I think that's ultimately what defines Milhouse - He's just a very unremarkable guy who lacks the ambition or vision to do anything particularly remarkable, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Just don't have him hook up with Lisa. Absolutely no one wants that.
As a society, we need people like Milhouse
That sounds just like his parents (with a more unattractive mother)
@@waltergilman3998my friend, that's most people
Like honestly, let Milhouse be kind of a loser who is acc pretty content with being kind of a loser. It’s not a glamorous life, but its a real one and that doesn’t have to suck. He makes his money, has a nice family, and just helps the world go round.
I think this sums it up: "Well, I can't defend everything he does... but let's face it. All Bart and Milhouse have is each other. They're too young for girls... and they're a popular target for bullies... and in the Christmas pageant, they're always sheep. Please, please, let them be friends." - Marge, S03E05 - Homer Defined
Regular sized Rudy from's bob's burgers is the perfected Milhouse.
He fills a lot of the same spaces: The naughty main characters best friend, divorced parents with a lot of jokes at the dad's expense, always tries and is a dork.
But the story treats him so much better and gives him a lot more depth, I think everyone has loved Rudy since the beginning and his big spotlight episode that recently came out with his divorced parents was so beautiful.
I never thought about that Marge and Milhouse comparison before. That's pretty potent. It gives a peak into how Bart thinks the rest of Springfield thinks of him.
The thumbnail choice for this is incredible.
Millhouse has always been one of my favorite characters and honestly I think it's because he's pretty relatable to people who were kinda losers/nerds growing up. Fuck the future episodes, I think Millhouse is the kind of person that would end up being a genuinely cool person when they grow up. In my experience people who dealt with a lot of bullshit as kids tend to end up becoming very empathetic and resilient people because of it.
I used to be a Milhouse, now I'm a Gil
I dunno man, all the bullshit gave me was a personality disorder
@@Tickerchicken Well yes that too
22:57 Excuse me, aren't you forgetting a little incident with his flood pants? His shoes were soaked but his cuffs were bone dry
Milhouse says a lot of wacky things, but the 'How miserable do I have to be until you're happy' monologue is legitimately devastating
Yes he's going down the same road his dad went down although I do like that episode when he confronts Lisa and tells her you don't like me and you don't want nobody else to like me so how miserable do I have to be to make you happy.
Oh my God, that scene where Milhouse is trying to do the magic trick and the cat in the box senses and freaks out about the cat in his hat is literally one of the best moments of comedy I've seen in my entire life. Even when you just show the still frame from it, I couldn't help but actually bust out laughing while thinking about it. If ANYTHING is pure comedy gold, it's that scene.
All the bits with Bart's casino are great. I really like how the audience for Milhouse's magic show claps when the cats start attacking him because let's be real, kids that age are going to be as excited to see a kid get scratched up in the middle of a couple cats fighting as they are for a magic show.
I loved that so much as a kid and would reenact when me and my sister would mess around with each other making up different dialogue since we didn't understand english that much lmfao
Bart’s casino is a really good b plot that works surprisingly well with a rather serious a plot.
14:24 that milhouse quote always hit different
It shows how "out of time" The Simpsons is in the 2020's when you remember Millhouse is a caricature of Paul Pfeiffer from _The Wonder Years_ and is named for Richard Milhous Nixon.
I thought that the first time I saw Milhouse, having seen that Wonder Years kid before.
Like how the gang from Scooby Doo are plays on characters from The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, except nobody remembers The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis while Scooby Doo outlived it and still matters half a century later.
@@nessesaryschoolthing Pretty much.
@@nessesaryschoolthing
”JOB!?!?”
- Maynard G Krebs
The whole Milhouse-Lisa thing just plain sucks no matter what side of it you're one. It's not even like a "Friend-zone" situation where Milhouse and Lisa have friendship but Milhouse happened to develop feelings based on that, its just Milhouse constant simping (ironic) for Liza for no real reason, and Liza only ever desiring when he's not himself, or when he's with another girl.
If you like Milhouse, you have to watch him be constantly rejected, often in especially humiliating ways, as well as cope with the fact the he's uncomfortably close to a "nice guy". It almost comes across as the show retroactively trying to justify dumping on him so much.
If you like Liza, you have to watch her be targeted by someone who she clearly wants nothing to do with, as well as cope with the fact that she's apparently the type of girl to string guys along to prop up her own fragile self worth since she seethes whenever Milhouse respects himself enough to stop chasing her.
It's like the show wants to have its cake and eat it too, it so desperately insist they belong together but doing so would imply that Milhouse is anything other than the "dud" so they add this weird caveat where Liza is ends up marred to Milhouse but cant actually love or even value him, the worst of both worlds.
This guy said “simping (ironic)”
@@GolumTR fr
Bob’s Burgers of all shows recently did a really good episode about a child and their parents’ divorce. In a similar vein to Milhouse they really only used it for gags before so seeing it taken so seriously was kind of an emotional gut punch. And on top of that it was episode *two* of the latest season. But yeah, I think it was really effective at what it set out to do and sticks out to me as probably the best episode of the show.
Tbh bobs burgers is the ONLY show I’d trust to do an episode about divorce. Rudy is an amazing character and that episode was so cute and grounded. Not surprising at all imo bobs burgers is still going strong
I think one of the big issues with the Lisa and Milhouse storyline is that we have moved on from the whole "dogged nice guy persuing the un-interested girl" thing as a storytelling method. It's not fun to watch someone constantly chasing someone who is in no way interested in them, not to mention that it sets a very bad standard for actual social interactions. If someone is not interested in you, stop chasing them.
Yeah, I don't get the writers need to have him pine over Lisa. I mean, he got a second girlfriend in one episode, and even that didn't last because they had Lisa insert herself in a ruined it, then give him a kiss, which just makes him like her again
14:16
I don't think the writers ever intended for Milhouse to be a positive role model. Fictional characters are allowed to be arseholes.
Milhouse really is the greatest name for this character. I love the Richard Milhous Nixon name origin.
Fun fact: at the time of the pilot, Nixon had left office only 16 years prior. It would be the equivalent of today calling a character W. to mock Bush.
Lisa and Milhouse (especially as adults) are victims of the same problem that has plagued Homer and Marge, Skinner and Krabapple, and nearly every other romantic adult relationship on the show: the writers find a dysfunctional relationship funnier and more interesting than a happy one. It's an easy crutch to lean on for conflict and jokes.
After season 8 it feels like they can't write any new male characters that aren't loser alcoholics or deadbeats and they can't write women who have normal human flaws.
@@JimMilton-ej6zi I admit most of the times they DO try to make the girls more flawed following that era they do come off a bit eerily insane. :P
I think it's great how you go from highlighting the Milhouse/Lisa relationship, but then go on to reveal that _Bart_ is the one who truly loves him.
The thing is, despite the lopsided dynamic, Bart and Milhouse are kindred spirits who have more in common than even they realize. My favorite is when Marge vouches on Bart's behalf to Luanne, who points out how they're both always picked last for sports or always end up playing sheep in the Christmas pageant. They're both loners who need each other.
''Bart's friend's friend Bart'' is brilliant wordsmithery
Willie's rant about brothers and sisters in the episode where bart's friend leaves lives free in my head, the italian dub sold it soo well
"Fratelli e sorelle sono nemici per natura"
DAMN SCOTS, THEY RUINED SCOTLAND
does he speak Italian in a Scottish accent? what's the Luigi character like in Italian?
@@aidanpeterbio funny story, he has a sardinian accent. Most of the simpsons characters in the italian dub have a specific italian accent.
Luigi speaks in naepolitan accent like wiggum
@@aidanpeterbio Willie has a sardinian accent with a bit of Yoda speech sometimes lmfao
Like "Losing my job you made me, kill you I will!"
To be honest, I think a really good concept would be Bart & Milhouse start off with a large schoolyard fight, and Milhouse starts hanging out with someone like Martin more to calm down after the fight. This way, there’s an evenness between how dorky they are. Milhouse is content and confident with Martin. Maybe a scene where Martin is playing with puppy Goo-Good, and Milhouse is playing with the seal toy Martin & Bart built. Being alone eats at Bart to where he starts acting out towards them, and then eventually turns into him being confronted by Milhouse and Martin demanding more respect after how often they help him.
We’ve seen the jealous Milhouse plot for Lisa w/Kristen Schaal’s character, but I feel like this would be a more organic concept of that story. The Martin-respect plot pulls slightly from Boyz in the Highlands, but if kept at a schoolhouse level, could really capture that energy of Bart growing and maturing that we used to see between 2-9.
When Lisa breaks up with Nelson, the episode ends with Thrillho jumping for joy (and strangling his dog)
Yeah, it could be because he was meant to be a one-off character for a Butterfinger's commercial.
He's actually one of the more realistic characters in the show. An only child who had come from an unhappy, broken home really would struggle with self esteem and confidence the way Milhouse does.
Aren't his parents cousins?
I think I heard that before, and also, come on, they got the exact same hair color and glasses, which still, messed up
I think we have enough evidence that Lisa is attracted to bad boy jerks after Lisa's Date with Density or her crush on the surly teen who works at the library, so seeing her fall for abusive, aloof Milhouse actually makes sense. As does Milhouse being too nice to keep up the act, losing her in the process.
27:40 Let's be fair a lot of characters would benefit from moving away from Springfield. I actually dislike the episode with Hank Scorpio not because I dislike Scorpio(Love him!) but because Marge, Lisa and Bart's complaints are all stupid and short term things(Homer called it right! And it's rare for Homer to be 100% right! Lisa's complaint can be dealt with allergy suppressants like Pirton, Marge's complaint can be dealt with her finding a hobby or volunteer work and Bart.....well he's the reason I bring this example up, Springfield Elementary failed him, simple as, I don't disagree that going to Learning support classes(I'm autistic I know how grading those classes were back then) can be trying but maybe he could have applied himself and gotten Lisa to help him. Springfield tells Lisa off for being an activist(Nearly got her killed in the movie because they couldn't tell that dumping rubbish in the lake was a bad idea and then when one person pushed the lake over the edge, they tried to murder her!), Springfield is a toxic and terrible place and many people in the show would be better a million miles away from it(Maybe a giant crater is what the town deserves!)
That's the thing with "status quo" shows. They have to hit the reset button at the end of the episode (there's no more show if the Simpsons just live happily ever after in a new town) even if their excuse for doing so is kinda bullshit.
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I think the problem is on the writers keeping him in this weird place where he;s not quite just a gag character and not quite a fully formed character. Like most of his existence is that he's a loser, and they can make jokes about him being a loser, and sometimes jokes about him being just there. Even The Lego Movie did one of those, and before his minifig was available to the public to boot. They do play him to a fuller extent than other gag characters like Ralph, for better or worse. They seem to give him random infantilization from time to time (sometimes even bringing Bart down to that level), sometimes they just want him to get hit by something. It's like they're somehow reluctant to give him a fully fleshed out character from time to time outside of Bart's sidekick. And also, I don't like the loser by association stuff. Sometimes he's Bart's ONLY friend because they're the only ones that can stand each other (and I've said multiple times Bart SHOULD be popular), and they always seem to make him Lisa's booby prize of a husband. Like the writers ONLY pair them up to mock Milhouse instead of to build up Lisa. The part where Milhouse tells her off for him losing that Kristen Schaal voiced character seems to be a very important turn for the character that they really needed to expand upon.
And that freeze frame where Milhouse is trying to slit his wrists because of his parents fighting is just gross. It's the kind of dark, depressing thing that makes you feel icky inside and WELL out of character.
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Look, at least for a short while he became a buff short-king.
That's something good for him I guess...?
And it didn't even last.
'Emotionally crippled mini-Hulk' is the description of him in the episode
@@taylorehlmao😂
I would prefer if they somehow brought Samantha back as a background character, that way we'd have room for more stories while finally breaking that Lisa storyline.
They kinda already have. Selman has expressed his personal dislike for Lisa romance plots on twitter.
“This is where I come to cry” - Milhouse
I absolutely hate seeing Milhouse and Lisa married in the flash forward episodes. I wish the writers would stop doing that.
Same here. It's bad for Lisa (who is weighed down/held back from greatness) and Milhouse (who is just reduced to a clone of Kirk because the writers don't know what else to do with him).
I think there's humor in the idea of him being a late bloomer and actually turning out to be a good guy, but they just keep making him Kirk, which isn't funny at all. I get that Lisa love interests tend to be really one-note and uninteresting, so using Milhouse sort of makes sense to avoid that, but they don't *earn* the joke and just get lazy.
One of your best essays
You have reached companion level 0 with Milhouse:
🎉Congratulations!🎉
I've always felt like the divorce was a screw the audience joke to mess with the expectation that everything would return to status quo by the end of that episode. Then the expectation that all future writing involving Milhouse would have to take it into account and they were like, "Oh. This is why everyone does episodic status quo"
Do remember Oakley/Weinstein thought the show was ending soon at that point anyway.
Milhouse is my wife's favorite character lol. Her favorite joke jnvolving him is the episode where Bart turns into a nerd and he looks into his glasses after Bart looks into his and he realizes he's a nerd too. I don't know why but it really hits for her haha.
Milhouse is probably my favourite character in the series, aside from Lionel Hutz. He's such a wonderful combination of relatable, pathetic, resilient and endearing. If there's a scene with him and Bart, in almost every case I'll find Milhouse to have the funnier moments/lines.
I gotta say while I don't care that much about millhouses as a character emotionally but he's so relatable I can't help think sometimes "come on why did you have to do that to him he's not Kirk"
I am imagining a gag where God accidentally smites Milhouse and he's like "Dang it, I was gonna hit Kirk!"
I'm surprised that you didn't mention him in the Das Bus episode on discussing why he's not liked very much by the audience. His performance on that episode was pretty much a character assassination on him, he was utterly unlikable all the way through.
Das Bus (and Radioactive Man) got minimized a lot because they didn't easily fall into the 3 subtopics. Looking back, I wish I had referenced them more because they have something to add to the audience's connection with him
(Basically the video was getting really long, lol)
@@TheRealJimsI can listen to you discuss the simpsons for hours don’t be afraid to make a long video
Hey. Milhouse is a underdog champ.
"Looks like everythings turning up Milhouse!"
Glad to see you finally giving an in-depth look to Bart's Friend.
Milhouse is a borderline "nice guy" who thinks being really pushy will make someone love you, but Lisa is kinda toxic too. She often leads Milhouse on, because it feeds her ego, and having someone devoted to you is better than being alone and unwanted.
My guess is that Milhouse kinda served as Lisa's "practice boyfriend" for a while until she found someone better, but that never happened (or those relationships didn't last) and eventually she just gave up and married him.
You know, I kinda....really dislike the idea that Lisa ultimately ends up in a toxic and emotionally abusive marriage.
Wasn't she supposed to be someone "above" Springfield?
@@rainspectre3153 I mean, Lisa considers herself above everyone, but she also enjoys feeling superior. She likes being the big fish in a small pond
That feels like an overly negative interpretation of the character not really congruent with how she is in the classic era. (Which is what I mostly focus on)@@matti.8465
@@matti.8465I wonder, then, if Future Milhouse is all Future Lisa would have left after everyone else is tired of her superiority shtick. Like, I don’t recall Lisa having friends in those future stories, while Bart at least keeps Milhouse or Ralph, and aside from her becoming president, I don’t think she leaves Springfield in them. After so many years antagonizing or isolating every other child in Springfield, she’d have no other choice than Milhouse or an exchange student. Her future marriages are just resignation than any initial feeling of attraction she may have had.
And suddenly, The Simpsons turns into Moral Orel…
Nice doggy!
(pets horseshoe crab)
I think people like Milhouse for the same reason people like Charlie Brown. They're both people who get absolutely dumped on by life, yet they refuse to let it break them. Milhouse will never give up, and because of that we as the audience know that he'll always have that slim chance of actually making it work.
Also it's hilarious to watch him suffer.
Schulz army, represent
Not enough Puppy Goo-Goo was talked about, Milhouses famous dog-toy dog
Fetch me a dream Puppy Goo Goo
Bart may have gotten Milhouse on the Most Wanted List and had him haunted down like an animal, but deep down they're best buds through and through.
whoooo babe wake up new TheRealJims upload and its a millhouse vid
Thanks for the wrestling term analogy. It genuinhelped me understand what you were talking about lmao
I feel like there's a hard Simpsons rule to never let Milhouse have his own episode. Like a meta/inside joke.
Also I adore how Lisa is in full forest camo except for her cute pink boots. No matter how long the show goes, the kids are still kids.
I've wanted a Simpsons Future episode that's focused on Milhouse for a long time. A proper exploration of how a kid like this could grow up to be someone who can stand on his own two feet with confidence would be the most heartwarming shit of all time. You could literally call it "Coming Up Milhouse".
You know if they absolutely must do the Lisa-Milhouse future pairing. An episode with them coming to terms with the fact that their incompatible and divorcing but ending on good terms and growing as people could actually work really well. They'd be progressing as characters rather than poisoning one another.
The flowers Bart gave to millhouse were stolen from Lenny at the Kwik-e-mart, flowers that were meant for his grandma's grave
To be fair, his grandma is dead so she wasn't going to be able to enjoy the flowers anyway.
MOMMM! BART'S SMOKING!
"WAZZZ UUUUUPPPP!!!!" - Milhouse 2002
"A Bart's friend divided" omg lol
I did my laundry while this video was playing in the background. Never did that before up until this Milhouse video.
This is great and all I did was enter my name thriĺl house
really like this, it's like a simpsons histories and mysteries at the same time
I googled just two days go whether or not there were any Milhouse-positive episodes out there and suddenly we receive The Dud's story. The universe provides!
This video made me realize how many of my favorite one-liners from the show are Milhouse-related… “You got the dud,” “She’s with the ‘house now,” “Everything’s comin’ up Milhouse,” “Nobody loves Milhouse”
At least the writers give him *some* love by surrounding him with fantastic lines?
I haven't even watched this yet.
A half video on Milhouse. Yes, in already on board Jim. Let's go.
Millhouse the Jobber‼️
Wasn't expecting to hear that, you deff popped me lol
Omg, I want Hey Arnold content!
Your wrestling comparison made me realise that Zack Ryder was the Milhouse of WWE
I’ve always wanted an episode focusing on Milhouse I’ve been waiting forever as he’s been my favorite support/side character in the series
Kinda odd hearing a dark souls II song in a simpsons histories video lol, you're truly the greatest.
You got the dud
Hey, he looks like you, Poindexter!
@@ExecutiveSondaStand up for yourself, Poindexter!
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Finally TheRealJims is talking about THRILLHO
You have created what the writers have not: a true spotlight on Milhouse, leaving us feeling good about him. 😉
my all time favourite Simpson’s joke isn’t necessarily Milhouse, but Milhouse adjacent…
“Hockey is so violent and dangerous… look at Milhouse’s teeth”
“Mom, will you stop showing us those”
Nelson is a jerk and a bully, but often reveals they have a softer side. Milhouse, meanwhile, is always friendly and helpful ... until they have the upper hand, whereupon they reveal their hidden jerk side. I think we, as viewers, are inclined to put more weight on a character's hidden side as being their "true" or most important self, which does no favors for Milhouse.
This is so true!
This is always why I’ve disliked him! Whenever something turns and Milhouse gets popular he ends up being a jerk to pretty much everyone.
Milhouse is the Meatwad
I mean, as someone who's been bullied and beaten up as much as Milhouse, wouldn't you expect he go overboard with power and popularity if he had it?