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- Hello all,
Here's a rather long but hopefully informative video about U505,
the German submarine captured in 1944 during WWII.
There are many fabulous stories you'll hear and you come along with Shane, Steven, Ken from History X and Dr. Voula Saridakis, curator at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago as they get a private tour of the sub.
Appreciate you coming along on the trip with us!
Please visit and support!
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Visited U-boat 505 in September 2023. I had it on my bucket list for years, never thought I would be able to see it but I was. It had a personal family meaning for me. I was so impressed by the employees and how they treated me.
It's an amazing exhibit and glad to hear you got what you were looking for by visiting her. Quite poignant!
Posting as De- saw this sub when it was still displayed I the back yard,went back last year to see it in its new display. What an amazing job they did to set up the sub and the informational displays! It was a bucket list item for me to see the new display!
They did an amazing job with the exhibit for sure! They had a vision, raised what I believe was the $10 million and saw it through...certainly one of the best displays I've ever seen! Thanks!
Excellent tour and discussion!. What a wonderfully preserved artifact. Thanks guys!
Erik, thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed. It was a great visit, and glad you got a lot out of it!
Enjoyed the tour! It’s been a long time goal to visit the museum and U-505.
It should be noted for general viewers that early in the war, the German subs were mostly spending their time on the surface and only submerged for drills, attacks, and avoid being seen by patrolling aircraft or ships, which was infrequent. As the war progressed the subs needed to submerge more frequently due to a higher tempo by Allied Forces patrolling and hunting them, to the point they only surfaced at night to recharge the batteries, and were submerged most of, if not all of the daytime hours. The snorkel was added to late war u-boots to facilitate running the Diesel engines while being submerged, which also allowed them to recharge the batteries.
Roger - Thanks for your comments, they're appreciated, and I'm sure other readers will get a lot of information from it! Hope you can make it there again sometime soon! Thanks for watching.
Just got back from the museum a few hours ago. Thanks for video. I learned some additional tidbits from the questions you asked the guide. I saw many people who ignored the opportunity to go inside the U-Boat. To see the history first hand was an awesome experience.
Thanks for watching. What a beautiful museum space that is! I certainly am envious! Appreciate you catching the video, and glad it filled in some information!
That was fantastic! Thanks for sharing that with us!
Jeff, you're so welcome! If you haven't been there, I would definitely recommend it. Fabulous exhibit!
The camera guys kinda sux running off during the explanations. Visited the U-505 back on the 70’s when it was out side. Super cool to explore as a kid.😊
Ha...I'll give Steven a hard time over this for sure! Glad you enjoyed and the indoor exhibit is quite stunning! Amazing what $10 million will do! Appreciate it.
Wood was a non strategic material and easier to manufacture for the inside of the sub. The history of the U-505 is very interesting. She had been severely damaged in a previous mission and was dry docked for a long time before she went out again. One of her previous Captains committed suicide. She was considered a bad luck boat.
Thank you, and her service history and fate does reflect that. I believe the Captain was in the conning tower when he killed himself. While this video was done a year and a half ago, I think it's mentioned in the video as we go through the sub! Thanks for your support!
That was great, thank you!
Stm Tom...thanks for watching and your support. Glad you enjoyed it!
The movie "Das Boot" was incredible.
Naturally, it was. Like any good war movie, if it doesn't have reflection points (like at the end of Das Boot) or show the ultimate "pointlessness", it's not worthy! Thanks for watching!
Excellent video.
Thanks for watching and your support as always, C McB. Glad you got some good information from it!
I feel VERY fortunate to have seen this U-boat back in 1959 when it was located out back of the Museum. It had two stairways from the ground up leading right thru the hull about 1/3rd of the midship section. You could carefully make your way along the cramped walkway with plenty of pipes, gauges, valves, and equipment to gawk at in the dim light. I see most of that has been removed, which is sad, because it really gave you a sense of how miserable it must have been to be aboard her in service. At least now it is sheltered from the elements. Would have been nice to actually see the full "displayed" interior instead of 26 mins of useless chatter about the floor in the galley or hanging sacks of potatoes in the torpedo room.
I saw her in the late 90's and the lighting wasn't all that great then, which somewhat depicted what you state. I do have to disagree about the useless chatter though. There are many folks nowadays who haven't the foggiest idea of how some of the seeming simplest things were actually some of the hardest to maintain on a tour. Like fruits and such were the first to go for the inability to keep them stored and how the smell of those items were very welcome. The ability of the chefs to help keep up moral by providing the best meals they could, which made the Captains job easier. The floor being a modern issue to recreate the originality vs what otherwise would look like a ill maintained relic.
Thanks for your comments! At least appreciate you watching. We did walk through all of the spaces, but there was a lot that hit the cutting room floor. It was about two hours of film, and people certainly wouldn't watch for that long! Appreciate your viewship!
Thanks Ray. I think the chatter is definitely worthwhile in the eyes of our viewers. A lot hit the cutting room floor from this video. But, we still have more film if we ever release a second video! Appreciate your support!
" it really gave you a sense of how miserable it must have been to be aboard her in service."
While I can't speak to the emotions of those who sailed during WW2, I can speak for myself and nearly everyone I sailed with on diesel boats. It was an adventure, we were young men involved in the most exciting and challenging experience of our lives. We were too busy working, maintaining, and qualifying to feel sorry for ourselves because the working conditions were not always the cleanest or most comfortable. Those who were not there will never fully comprehend the sights, sounds, thoughts and smells of that world. Diesel Boats Forever
@@BuffaloNavalPark I would watch for that long!
I served in the U.S. Army in the early 1980's. After a year at Ft. Hood, TX. I was stationed in Furth Germany which is basically a suburb of Nuremberg. Like all young service men I spent a lot of time at the local German bar which was right outside the gate of the (I think it was called Kasern) American base. I befriended a German Gentleman by the name of Otto Dietz. Otto served on the U505 when the submarine was captured in 1944, I truly enjoyed hearing him tell the stories about the U505 before and after it was captured. He told me he made the trip to Chicago every year for the reunion with his old ship mates and the sailors from the US destroyer that captured the U505.
I believe I've heard of this gentleman! Amazing story and thanks for sharing. The Curator in the video also mentions that they hired a submariner who served aboard as a maintenance guy for the sub...that's wild! Thanks you for your sacrifices while serving!
The type 21 or XXI. Was the mother layout for the modern submarines... thanks for posting this video
Bee, thanks for watching. I'm not up on my German sub configurations or Classes, but research shows that it was IXC - a variant of the IX Class. Is this the same as you mention? Appreciate your support!
How's the USS Sullivan's Navy ship today ? Mary Babiec
Good, Thanks Mary!
Initially, my thought for the wood cases and trim would be for sound deadening...and perhaps secondarily for a sense of home. Does anyone else know if this could be fact? Thanks Shane, what's equally satisfying is not just a visit to the U-505, but to have a woman that has become engrossed in it from another field she hadn't counted on. She truly seems quite taken by the stories and the ability to reach back in time. I wish more people made that effort.
Hi Ray. Our initial thought was that European "flair". US Subs were much more utilitarian in nature. Dr. Voula definitely has embraced U505. That's the great thing about what we do is one never knows where our career may lead. She was constructed for the start of (Germany's) WWII involvement, but to see that the wood was added talks to the craftsmanship, even as they were building up the fleet for the Battle of the Atlantic! Thanks for watching!
That wood would not make much difference, if any, for sound deadening.
That’s amazing! I visited there last year and you couldn’t even enter the sub. Just look into one of the doors on the side. I hope it’s open for tours again now. I’m going to check!
Joe, thanks for watching! Yes, I believe the sub is open for tours. Maybe because of COVID protocols it wasn't last year. Great stories attached to the sub, and the whole building (exhibit) is so worth it as you may know. They did an excellent job of telling the story!
@@BuffaloNavalParkI had to come back the next day in order to get inside.
The museum needs to do more to promote the fact that it's almost required to buy the special interior tickets online a day in advance to be able to get inside.
I toured the 505 about 2009. I kept throwing in stuff from Admiral Gallery's book. The docent said, "You know a lot about the 505!"
That's cool! I wasn't too familiar but its a beautiful exhibit for sure!
@@BuffaloNavalPark The tour was amazing! When I saw the 505, I had read everything I could find on it!
U 505 is one of the subs that I want to go see so bad!
Sam, thanks for watching! The whole exhibit is a fascinating and great exhibit...the boat is the icing on the cake! The sub is so well curated...i would definitely recommend you see it when you can!
Longest consistent submerged time i can find using german google (i am german so it comes natural) is U-977, claiming 66 days while using snorkels at night to provide the diesels with air. U-977 was a Type VII, though. Was wondering about the 100 days myself, but as of now i am convinced U-977 holds the record for german subs in WW2 (and afterwards) with 66 days, albeit 100 days would be possible in theory as well. Also, thanks a lot for the tour - i love the Type IX, just hate what it was used for, and by whom.
EDIT: U-978 apparently did 68 days according to English (US) Wiki - also Type VII
almightylrie, thanks for watching and for sharing your knowledge of German U-Boats...it's a beautiful boat, and the displays\exhibits they have are second to none...US Subs could have inflicted much higher sinking rates if they had snorkel technology...alas our snorkels weren't on board until the early 1950s. Appreciate it!
About the German that used to volunteer and give tours he wrote a book about his time on that boat it's called steel boats and iron hearts it's an awesome read
Thanks for letting us know, Matt. Appreciate it...I'll look for it, and sink my teeth into it when I get the time!
@@BuffaloNavalPark the book is on audible I have probably listened to it about 10 I highly highly recommend this book
It looks like they used wooden beams to stiffen the pressure hull! That looks like good engineering to me.
Thanks for your support! That would be the place to get a close up look at German U-boat construction for sure! Killers until 1943 when the Allies turned the tide.
The wood beams you are talking about are not structural, it's there just for looks.
Anyone interested in learning more about U-505 history should read the book Steel Boat Iron Hearts - by Hans Goebeler . It’s is the most accurate history written by a DKM Submariner
Thanks for sharing the book with the viewers\subscribers! Appreciate it.
Cool to see the tour! Would have been nice to see the whole way instead of ' exhibit friendly.' Nobody has a good tour on youtube of actually all the functions and built in purposes of all the controls of a U-boat. They were masters of engineering. This was kinda a bunch of blabber.
Thanks for watching, but yes - they were pretty strict. At least we were able to speak to the Curator, which isn't part of the normal tour...glad you enjoyed, even if it's blubber!
Love it ur music is load AF for untrmmm
Awesome! Thanks!
The Navy was going to scrap the U-505, but Admiral Gallery called in favors and managed to have it. It was his legacy!
That's a very fine legacy to leave. Good for Chicago! Appreciate your support!
It's been a very long time since I was last aboard her.
Hope you can visit 505 sometime soon! Thanks for watching!
Do you know for a fact that she was hit by a hedgehog(s)? Generally one hit will sink a sub. We were told by in Fleet Sonar School in 1972/3 by US submarine sailors they preferred to called bubbleheads or sewer pipe sailors rather than civilians stuttering around trying to pronounce submariner in all the ways that can be said. I've heard the claims about German snorkel boats being submerged for long periods of time using their snorkel but I know American folks who were diesel boat sailors that have snorkeled for several days and say it can be a miserable life because in rough weather the snorkel head goes underwater and there's a float that seals it shut so they don't suck in dangerous amounts of water flooding the engine rooms. When the float deals shut the engines suck air from the boat at a fast pace torturing every bodies ear drums. Another problem that wasn't solved till after the water was how to navigate while submerged because of the difficulty taking accurate star and noon sun sights.
Thanks for watching, and for your support. US Submarines received snorkel technology in 1953, but it was developed and learned after the capture of this uboat and the others taken as war prizes - the two Type XXI uboats.
Hello. Are you aware of reports that the submarine is haunted?
Michael, I don't think Dr. Voula mentioned anything about being haunted. Certainly the Capt. prior to the Capturing Capt. killed himself in the conning tower, but i don't think hauntings ever came up! Thanks for watching!
Yes hams, Iron Coffins.
Apt description for sure...until an implosion. Thanks for watching.
The 505 was not hit by a hedgehog. The rudder and planes were damaged by depth charges which disabled the boat to the point Captain Lange decided to abandon ship.And those of us who sailed on "boats" are sub-mareeners, not sub mariners. Sub mariners are a lesser grade of mariner.
I agree, generally a hedgehog hit is a kill.
She seems unsure of what she's talking about as far as the story of U-505.
Thanks for watching. I can attest, having the knowledge all at your fingertips for one boat or three ships is near impossible! The only thing that changes that is time! She was new as of the filming. Hope this helps, and thanks!
16:12..... ummm with Shane standing in a cut out bulkhead......... lol i can't remember if it\'s Silversides or Cod which isnt cut up for visitor convenience.. even the U.S.. Subs with their larger bulkhead hatches were still subject to the torch for visitor convivence.......I mean I get it small watertight doors are not practical for visotors....but dammit.... that's not the way they were suppose to be
bulkheads have nothing to do with anything are except for a reference
burroaks7. You are correct, I was surprised at the cut in the pressure hull too! The USS Cod in Cleveland does not have any false openings...you have to enter the same way the crew did...through the superstructure forward and down the vertical escape trunk ladder! This is something I've tried hard to help people understand this year when it came to Sully. These are museum ships now, and watertight conditions like Zebra, and X Ray aren't possible. We've made many modifications through the years to all of our ships so visitors can have the best experience. If I would have been working here back then I would have been an advocate of leaving as is, but I didn't start until 30 years after the park opened! Thanks for your support!
Big difference I'd toured it 1973 it was behind the museum outside painted all black 8th grade class
Very, very different for sure...that exhibit is amazing! Appreciate you watching!