Here in Sweden I think Hitachi and Volvo are the most used wheeled excavators. Mecalac is a rare brand. I think most are around 14 tons (14 000 kg) and pulls a carriage with different accessories, buckets and so on. The carriages also gives the possibility to collect and move dirt on, with its own hydraulic tilt for unloading, very convenient for use on paved roads inside towns. And of course these excvators have rotor tilt. These excavators primarilary have the advantage in the ease of transport (but not that fast) and very good capabilities compared to many other machines. The backdraw compared to tracked excavators is the lower stability and offroad capacity. Also it destroys the groundsurface more, in particular compared to steel tracks that can be really gentle on dry grounds. And the price of the wheeled excavators is higher, partly due to the more complicated layout with more controls. Our company have used Hitachi excavators with both steel tracks and wheels for more than a decade.
OMG that wheeled excavator needs a tilt-rotator with an eletro-hydraulic quick connect system so they don't have to get out of the cab to switch up powered accessories. Like Engcon or Steelwrist... Any time you don't have to get out of the cab to do a tool swap means you can start doing more tool swaps but spend more time doing actual work. Most of those tilt-rotators have a graple option that is like a big metal hand to pick up and move tools. Think of it like a mechanic, electrician, or plumber picking the right tool for a task rather that sitting there trying to make the shovel do every job... Use that pintle hitch to drag a small trailer, and now the machine is carrying its own tools and materials for a job.
It seems like Stanley is somewhat impressed! Another European brand to look at for the exclusivity is Menzi-Muck from Switzerland and their spider-excavators! But Mecalac from Annecy in France is definitely a very very nice and versatile brand!
That isn't much different than my JCB 110w hydradig. The 110w goes 25mph. The 110w has the engine mounted in the chassis of the machine to lower the center of gravity and increase stability. Originally I didn't even want the 110w but I got in a package deal with a 3ts8t teleskid, they were both brand new and I had to buy both.
@@truefarmer12345 solid machine. They also make them with fold down train track wheels. They put them at Same spot where the support struts are on this vehicle
It obviously will have some limitations on soft ground. But that's not the point. Each of them has their own use cases, and using a machine for something else than what it's built for is never optimal.
JCB has a similar machine available in the states. It's called the Hydradig. 11ton machine. I have one, and it's the ultimate swiss army knife. It impresses me every day I run it.
there are diffrent brands with their version of spider excavators in Europe. Also many of those they attach "ENGCON Tiltrotator" wich is kind of handy too.
Such an interesting hybrid machine. Does the work of a skid steer, excavator, and backhoe. Save even more time by not trailering it from job site to job site. What’s not to like?
Wont have to trailer it if the next job is a few blocks down in the same neighborhood but you ain't going down the main highway or any main roads. I guess you could technically but with a top speed of 20 mph youd end up behind on time wishing you would have just hauled it. I wondet how fast they wear out tired driving like that. Not saying it's a bad machine I do like you can go forward 30 ft and back 20 feet and forward again alot faster (like in a skid steer) then a tracked machine and maybe backhoe
Me: Man that tree really leans out toward the road really hard. I'm gonna have to pull that sucker back away from the road. Township guy: Drops it right on the road across both lanes. Not a road closed sign within sight Zero F's given. Love it. That is a really neat piece of equipment.
I'm impressed and amazed all at the same time 😮 This is a big game changer!!! Thank you for all the great information, gentlemen ! And thank you Stan 👍
I think the JCB Hydrodig is just as versatile we have them fitted for pot hole repairs and other road works mainly utilities and flytip clean up and light roadside tree surgery
While they never put the stabilizers down, it did look kinda tippy. Also, I’d like to see wheeled units for the smaller mini ex’s. These would be perfect for personal property or small contractors!
funny, new for you, but on the European side, this system has been in use for at least the last 30 years. and when I add a trailer to the back of the machine, you can transport various accessories yourself, including sand or other necessary items. Like Petr do, czcams.com/channels/Hgr6MXSFg38QyVjlWR-Yiw.html?si=RHj8636cIthK5Msk
Its out performing backhoes having all on its attachments. Not sold to much on its capability looking close at its stress on the tires. Theres no reason outriggers couldnt be part of its design! For center balance as well as hydraulic boomout! outriggers to keep tire pressures damage. Other then the design it has! Longer reaching is less stressful on hydraulics at its full reach. Now with out its clearances as you would have more on a backhoe! I would like to see its reaction of the hard services, and see it reach capacities in soft ground and or muddy area's its a great deal for road crews city and or county for storm clean ups in disasters such as tornadoes heavey t-storms. Ooo! Iits great stan eaven they might make a philabuncher attachment head for it. But i think it would safe tax payers money and labor as well .👍🏻like this video stan. And ware there going with this concept. 👍🏻👍🏻
I had a go with on a 10 ton with an engcon arm fully extended it was impossible to level way to bouncy no matter how light you are on the levers, had to bring the arm halfway in not even the lenghth of a 3 ton machine fully extended to grade even then still bouncy might of been the weight of the engcon but even the demonstration guy was embarrassed and didnt want to say anything about it kept on changing the subject saying its more for tight spaces, other than that it was good especially inside the cab, before buying one suggest you try and grade with it
I operate a 10ton crawler excavator most frequently, I would love to try this style machine and the tracked machine as well. Amazing potential the the boom configuration.
I like it and I think it’s stable enough. It’s an excavator with a treatable chassis so doing what they’re doing working on the roadside it’s a great machine. It looks pretty stable to me. They could easily put an outrigger system on there to make it more stable and they’ve got the blade in the front and back And it bounces around a little bit so does a track excavator but they’re getting the job done and it doesn’t look unsafe or bouncing around too much to me. I’d rather have tracks, but I’m almost never gonna be working on pavement, but if I were in a crew like this, or rural community, where I was operating on blacktop, I’d rather have this all day long. I don’t think it’s some amazing innovation but it’s customized for this job and it does a really good job of it, I like it As far as a backhoe, killer, depends on the job, if I’ve just got to move a big pile of dirt I like a backhoe and of course there’s the cost factor but this is definitely a lot more versatile, and though it’s got a street chassis on it, where that’s applicable that’s a huge advantage , they do this kind of work out where I live in the county comes by and maintains the side of the road and they usually use a big tractor with rubber reels and have huge attachments on the back with a boomer and a brush hog or chipper on it This is just a much better version of that.
I believe this is the trend for the future. More investment in multipurpose equipment with fewer and fewer laborers. That thing looks stable, glued down stable while it’s throwing that forestry head around. The only thing it’s lacking is a thumb for the excavator
These wheeled excavator are really mobile - comparativly. A number of companies have them. I think if you had 1 with an Encon, that would be a super machine
Looks tipsy with forestry head. Not a backhoe killler though because it cost around 100k. French machines aren't know to be reliable and no one will be able to fix it. Either way, cool machine.
That machine is incredibly stable and will pull through mud that most wheeled machines dig in and as for reliability ours has never missed a beat in 5 years
You mentioned they used skid steer attachments with it. Is there a special mount for it. My skid doesnt use that type of connection. Mine has what i thought is typical. The quick attach. I couldnt get a close view of the attacment plate. Could those accessories still be used with a skid. I dont work in comercial construction. Just my own personal jobs so maybe imay not recognize the attachment plate that most commercial compnies use.
If you’re a contractor you still need a trailer to haul that. Cities can drive it around but if your job is 30 miles away at 20 mph, that’s quite a drive.
Too cool. I’d love to have this when I was operating an excavator in the cities digging mainline trenches. We always ran around all over the city digging trenches. Would have been nice to have this thing.
I was born and raised on backhoes and rubber tire excavators. A rubber tire excavator sure is a bit tippier but man a good operator can run laps on a backhoe for almost everything. Europe used them even way better than us. They are so underrated
Love this machine. Tried to get a town buy one of these instead of a track excavator but they never seen one of these before so they went with a track excavator and now they need to trailer it everywhere and it's very limited in it usability
JCB have there hydro dig similar and just as versatile a machine as the mecalac but it only comes in ten tone class were as mecalac has them as small as six tone very useful for a landscapers would not need two machines as it bout a skid steer and an excavator i love inventive and versatile kit like this it makes your business faster and more efficient and more profitable 😅🤔
That thing is bouncing like a tractor with a backhoe.....the stability is in the support of the wheels and I think it comes down to use and being cmfortable with how it bounces. Eventually tho, you gonna bounce too much and pop that tire....at least I would think that. But maybe it is built for that and the tires and rims hold more. It is a pretty impressive machine.
I don't know Stan the road side tires was doing alot of bouncing I guess it depends on how it feels inside the equipment while running the brush cutter.
These will all be electrified by 2030. Imagine how much more stable they’d be with heavy low-mounted battery pack and almost no fuel costs comparatively and less maintenance bc power train has few moving parts.
Wheels came off ground a bunch of time with brush chipper attachment. Not practical unless it’s for a dpw most people drive 20-30 miles. Take over 1 hr to get there and over hour to get back. When you use tax dollars you don’t care about cost
@@scotchdrnkr it depends on how much transport you need on a daily basis. It’s probably not economically feasible to have your own transport equipment if you only use it 1 hour a day
Here in Sweden I think Hitachi and Volvo are the most used wheeled excavators. Mecalac is a rare brand. I think most are around 14 tons (14 000 kg) and pulls a carriage with different accessories, buckets and so on. The carriages also gives the possibility to collect and move dirt on, with its own hydraulic tilt for unloading, very convenient for use on paved roads inside towns. And of course these excvators have rotor tilt. These excavators primarilary have the advantage in the ease of transport (but not that fast) and very good capabilities compared to many other machines. The backdraw compared to tracked excavators is the lower stability and offroad capacity. Also it destroys the groundsurface more, in particular compared to steel tracks that can be really gentle on dry grounds. And the price of the wheeled excavators is higher, partly due to the more complicated layout with more controls. Our company have used Hitachi excavators with both steel tracks and wheels for more than a decade.
Rototilt is king
OMG that wheeled excavator needs a tilt-rotator with an eletro-hydraulic quick connect system so they don't have to get out of the cab to switch up powered accessories. Like Engcon or Steelwrist...
Any time you don't have to get out of the cab to do a tool swap means you can start doing more tool swaps but spend more time doing actual work. Most of those tilt-rotators have a graple option that is like a big metal hand to pick up and move tools. Think of it like a mechanic, electrician, or plumber picking the right tool for a task rather that sitting there trying to make the shovel do every job...
Use that pintle hitch to drag a small trailer, and now the machine is carrying its own tools and materials for a job.
It seems like Stanley is somewhat impressed! Another European brand to look at for the exclusivity is Menzi-Muck from Switzerland and their spider-excavators!
But Mecalac from Annecy in France is definitely a very very nice and versatile brand!
MACALAC machine is beyond AWESOME!!! I ❤ this channel!!!
That isn't much different than my JCB 110w hydradig. The 110w goes 25mph. The 110w has the engine mounted in the chassis of the machine to lower the center of gravity and increase stability. Originally I didn't even want the 110w but I got in a package deal with a 3ts8t teleskid, they were both brand new and I had to buy both.
Perfect peace of equipment for hard surface use but I want to see that thing match an equivalent crawler in mud and soft ground.
they make it with tracks
@@truefarmer12345 solid machine. They also make them with fold down train track wheels. They put them at Same spot where the support struts are on this vehicle
It obviously will have some limitations on soft ground. But that's not the point. Each of them has their own use cases, and using a machine for something else than what it's built for is never optimal.
like saying you want to see a tracked machine go up and down roads and scoop out the sides of ditches just as fast as this one can....
I mean how much mud can a backhoe and wheeled skidsteer go through. Not much in my experience and that is what he is comparing it too
JCB has a similar machine available in the states. It's called the Hydradig. 11ton machine. I have one, and it's the ultimate swiss army knife. It impresses me every day I run it.
Hell yeah I could see you using one of those in your fleet as well. Would work good for building retaining walls.
They need to make a garden tractor sized version. That would be fun.
O hell ya every home owner who has a large spread will want one 😲
Volvo got one called EW60
there are diffrent brands with their version of spider excavators in Europe. Also many of those they attach "ENGCON Tiltrotator" wich is kind of handy too.
Such an interesting hybrid machine. Does the work of a skid steer, excavator, and backhoe. Save even more time by not trailering it from job site to job site. What’s not to like?
Wont have to trailer it if the next job is a few blocks down in the same neighborhood but you ain't going down the main highway or any main roads. I guess you could technically but with a top speed of 20 mph youd end up behind on time wishing you would have just hauled it. I wondet how fast they wear out tired driving like that. Not saying it's a bad machine I do like you can go forward 30 ft and back 20 feet and forward again alot faster (like in a skid steer) then a tracked machine and maybe backhoe
Me: Man that tree really leans out toward the road really hard. I'm gonna have to pull that sucker back away from the road.
Township guy: Drops it right on the road across both lanes. Not a road closed sign within sight Zero F's given. Love it.
That is a really neat piece of equipment.
I'm impressed and amazed all at the same time 😮 This is a big game changer!!! Thank you for all the great information, gentlemen ! And thank you Stan 👍
I think the JCB Hydrodig is just as versatile we have them fitted for pot hole repairs and other road works mainly utilities and flytip clean up and light roadside tree surgery
If you add an dump trailer to it. It would be the best storm debris cleanup crew. I know this because I did, it
In Scandinavia the hitachi/volvo wheel excavators normally has a dump trailer attached to a coupling on the blade when they travel around
Just wondered what engine does it run?
Kubota. Built in America! God bless.
I understand what are doing. Most people need this. But not my thing. To big of machine for me. Keep up the great work and God bless.
Careful that excavator almost got sucked in to that chipper
I think that Menzi Muck is also a backhoe killer, plus it can work in places nothing else can get to.
Cotton top3 just finished getting a new Robotech grapple on his excavator. Amazing machine he uses for his tree work.
Seems a little unstable with the mulcher head.
While they never put the stabilizers down, it did look kinda tippy. Also, I’d like to see wheeled units for the smaller mini ex’s. These would be perfect for personal property or small contractors!
Wow. Nice operator. Good operator.
This machine is awesome! Happy to see another video! Keep it up
You showed off over 250,000 dollars worth of equipment.
They don’t have any dealers in my area, everything breaks and the closest dealer is 10 hours away.
Were about are u located?
My dealer always has parts and if not they loan u a machine
Should we expect another collaboration with Victory Outdoor Serices, seeings how your outside Milwaukee in this video?
We been using wheel diggers for 30 Years in Scandinavia mine has a trailer for it a twin axle
Har det tagit 40 år för amerikanarna att förstå vad en rototilt är så är det imponerande att det finns hjulgrävare iallafall
looked pretty shaky with that mulching head on it.
Go with the Jcb hydra dig , the engine and hydraulic tank along with fuel is on the drive framework for a lower center of gravity.
You need to tell Stan that a wheeled excavator is nothing like a track excavator to-operate
Ive ran wheeled excavators. I didn't like it but it was not a Mecalac. It was a Volvo and tippy. this thing was stable as all get out
Another very informative video. Thank you.
Not that I oppose anybody but JCB hydradig is it not the 4x4 wheeled excavator with the lowest center of gravity?
funny, new for you, but on the European side, this system has been in use for at least the last 30 years. and when I add a trailer to the back of the machine, you can transport various accessories yourself, including sand or other necessary items. Like Petr do, czcams.com/channels/Hgr6MXSFg38QyVjlWR-Yiw.html?si=RHj8636cIthK5Msk
yep- only new to America
The ground guys hardly touched a thing.
Its out performing backhoes having all on its attachments. Not sold to much on its capability looking close at its stress on the tires. Theres no reason outriggers couldnt be part of its design! For center balance as well as hydraulic boomout! outriggers to keep tire pressures damage. Other then the design it has! Longer reaching is less stressful on hydraulics at its full reach. Now with out its clearances as you would have more on a backhoe! I would like to see its reaction of the hard services, and see it reach capacities in soft ground and or muddy area's its a great deal for road crews city and or county for storm clean ups in disasters such as tornadoes heavey t-storms. Ooo! Iits great stan eaven they might make a philabuncher attachment head for it. But i think it would safe tax payers money and labor as well .👍🏻like this video stan. And ware there going with this concept. 👍🏻👍🏻
That's some clever engineering. I could see Wranglerstar wanting one for when his Yanmar isn't quite up to the task.
If i could move snow with it in the winter im sold. I would use it almost everyday.
I had a go with on a 10 ton with an engcon arm fully extended it was impossible to level way to bouncy no matter how light you are on the levers, had to bring the arm halfway in not even the lenghth of a 3 ton machine fully extended to grade even then still bouncy might of been the weight of the engcon but even the demonstration guy was embarrassed and didnt want to say anything about it kept on changing the subject saying its more for tight spaces, other than that it was good especially inside the cab, before buying one suggest you try and grade with it
This machine is quality machine and versatile and seems very stable it would be amazing verge road side grass cutting too
I operate a 10ton crawler excavator most frequently, I would love to try this style machine and the tracked machine as well. Amazing potential the the boom configuration.
they have those, its the 10 mcr from mecalac
Remember it can't get it's self out of its own hole on its own like a backhoe can limited. Each designed for its special needs and purpose. 👍🏻
I seen guys plow with the mtx12, would this model plow small lots?
I like it and I think it’s stable enough. It’s an excavator with a treatable chassis so doing what they’re doing working on the roadside it’s a great machine. It looks pretty stable to me. They could easily put an outrigger system on there to make it more stable and they’ve got the blade in the front and back And it bounces around a little bit so does a track excavator but they’re getting the job done and it doesn’t look unsafe or bouncing around too much to me. I’d rather have tracks, but I’m almost never gonna be working on pavement, but if I were in a crew like this, or rural community, where I was operating on blacktop, I’d rather have this all day long. I don’t think it’s some amazing innovation but it’s customized for this job and it does a really good job of it, I like it
As far as a backhoe, killer, depends on the job, if I’ve just got to move a big pile of dirt I like a backhoe and of course there’s the cost factor but this is definitely a lot more versatile, and though it’s got a street chassis on it, where that’s applicable that’s a huge advantage , they do this kind of work out where I live in the county comes by and maintains the side of the road and they usually use a big tractor with rubber reels and have huge attachments on the back with a boomer and a brush hog or chipper on it This is just a much better version of that.
I believe this is the trend for the future. More investment in multipurpose equipment with fewer and fewer laborers. That thing looks stable, glued down stable while it’s throwing that forestry head around. The only thing it’s lacking is a thumb for the excavator
These wheeled excavator are really mobile - comparativly. A number of companies have them. I think if you had 1 with an Encon, that would be a super machine
Most municipal public works departments would get many benefits from this piece of equipment. No joke!
Great video Stan, I work for a township and it looks like a real timesaver. Can you get a hydraulic thumb on it.
I instantly thought the same thing❤❤
sure can get a hydraulic thumb
Hey Mr stan I got a question I'm looking to buy a dump trailer Who you think you're the best dump trailer the market?
Looks tipsy with forestry head. Not a backhoe killler though because it cost around 100k. French machines aren't know to be reliable and no one will be able to fix it. Either way, cool machine.
That machine is incredibly stable and will pull through mud that most wheeled machines dig in and as for reliability ours has never missed a beat in 5 years
😂
i got mine used with 3700 and its at 4600 now. they are very reliable.
You mentioned they used skid steer attachments with it. Is there a special mount for it. My skid doesnt use that type of connection. Mine has what i thought is typical. The quick attach. I couldnt get a close view of the attacment plate. Could those accessories still be used with a skid. I dont work in comercial construction. Just my own personal jobs so maybe imay not recognize the attachment plate that most commercial compnies use.
yeah- it uses an adapter plate to connect up to skiddy attachments
If you’re a contractor you still need a trailer to haul that. Cities can drive it around but if your job is 30 miles away at 20 mph, that’s quite a drive.
Gotta love the red white and blue grapple
Mecalac is the best machine made hands down
Too cool. I’d love to have this when I was operating an excavator in the cities digging mainline trenches. We always ran around all over the city digging trenches. Would have been nice to have this thing.
I was born and raised on backhoes and rubber tire excavators. A rubber tire excavator sure is a bit tippier but man a good operator can run laps on a backhoe for almost everything. Europe used them even way better than us. They are so underrated
Can’t compare this machine with a backhoe. I think he meant the mini excavator killer 😂
Love this machine. Tried to get a town buy one of these instead of a track excavator but they never seen one of these before so they went with a track excavator and now they need to trailer it everywhere and it's very limited in it usability
Hills! How does it handle hills? That’s what we got in Ithaca, NY!
Best machine ever❤
CAT has had variable boom on their smaller tracked machines and on their wheeled excavators for years.
That thing is cool I mean what exevator do you know that can drive in traffic and haul its own attachments 😊😊
JCB have there hydro dig similar and just as versatile a machine as the mecalac but it only comes in ten tone class were as mecalac has them as small as six tone very useful for a landscapers would not need two machines as it bout a skid steer and an excavator i love inventive and versatile kit like this it makes your business faster and more efficient and more profitable 😅🤔
Boys where are the Stabilizers? Someone is bound to push it over the Max
it has 2 different kinds of stabilizers
Great handy machine
You can drive any wheeled excavator with rototilt with your own trailer since 1989 in Sweden hang with you isa with my friends there))
Haven't these been around for at least 40 years in Europe? In the video you could see the tires lift off the ground as it was clearing brush....
Do they crab walk? I thought I had seen one doing it in another video
Compare that to a Gradall
Gradall has been making wheel excavators for more than 50 years... it's about time for smaller machines like this. Thanks for the video.
The smallest one they make weighs 15k lbs. Too heavy for farm work.
I have never heard of a piece of equipment being too heavy for farm work. Why would it be too heavy?
Tracks Are For Off Road & Mud-Snow / Thee Wheels Are Good Road Arear's / AS this Machine is Mostly Town & Such ???
Very cool machine.
I think so too!
Nice machine but too expensive for me
So !!! You Do Need a TRAILER to Haul All The ATACSMENTS Around ???
They mail them there
You should watch Cotontop man is a master at making trees disappear fast
Stan great for curb and sidewalk contractors city wourk it would have to push a 20ft Arctic in a snow storm for you to buy one
Good video 😊
That thing is bouncing like a tractor with a backhoe.....the stability is in the support of the wheels and I think it comes down to use and being cmfortable with how it bounces. Eventually tho, you gonna bounce too much and pop that tire....at least I would think that. But maybe it is built for that and the tires and rims hold more. It is a pretty impressive machine.
Way more stable then a backhoe with the outriggers up. Those big fat tires on the rear of a backhoe are like balloons.
Mcr 6 ,8 &10 are the next level in track setups
I want one
I don't know Stan the road side tires was doing alot of bouncing I guess it depends on how it feels inside the equipment while running the brush cutter.
Talking how stable it is while it’s literally bouncing 2 inches of the ground lol. It is a awesome machine though.
Nice machine
It sure is!
Road construction crews have been using those for years, only their 3X larger. 👷
a great machine!
GOD BLESS
you to!
Amazing machine
interesting
No roto tilt on the excavator?
And no quick release. It's not an effective excavator.
Trying to reinvent the wheel. Just stick to backhoe and track excavators. Super good video though. Are they made in America?
600 hours in 18 months isn't much at all. Seems like it sits more than it's worked
Plus, who does not like to say Mecalac, Mecalac.
These will all be electrified by 2030. Imagine how much more stable they’d be with heavy low-mounted battery pack and almost no fuel costs comparatively and less maintenance bc power train has few moving parts.
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For municipalities that are parkway driven makes alot of sense ... off road???
Kinda like a gradall
Not sold on it overall
Gonna buy a yanmar
I operat cat m317f whit a encon rotortilt the its a weel digger like that judt bigger😋
Wheels came off ground a bunch of time with brush chipper attachment. Not practical unless it’s for a dpw most people drive 20-30 miles. Take over 1 hr to get there and over hour to get back. When you use tax dollars you don’t care about cost
How much would it cost to hire a truck for transporting a similar machine both ways
@12345anton6789 Wouldn't most companies own their own transport set up for their own equipment
@@scotchdrnkr it depends on how much transport you need on a daily basis. It’s probably not economically feasible to have your own transport equipment if you only use it 1 hour a day