My dad was a club fighter in northeastern Pennsylvania. When my dad was in the army Mr. Arcel sent him two letters stating that he wanted to train him. This was 1946.
Back in them days the cornermen dressd in slacks shinny shoes a white starchd shirt.they were teachers who would not let you hit the heavybag untlil you learnd how to throw a punch.so they made you shadow box for many rounds at a time.alot of good fighters benifited from his tutelage. Rest in peace ray arcel you gave your heart to the sport
Arcel was the business end of that great corner team that gets due credit for bringing Duran to NYC and a title fight. But It was actually the other old Jew in Duran's corner, Freddie Brown that Roberto credits for teaching him the most that Duran had to polish to fight out of and above the lightweight division. Duran became the very best inside fighter I ever saw. The Palomino fight is a display of a master infighter that wasn't there (or needed) in the Buchanan fight. It's all too rare a talent today and worthy for any pugilistic serious student of infighting to emulate . . . that was the work of decades of studied experience by Freddie Brown as passed on to "Manos de Piedra".
PS: DON'T FORGET HIS CO-TRAINER, THE LATE FREDDY BROWN, A GREAT CUTMAN & A TEACHER OF THE "OLD SCHOOL," ERA OF BOXING'S GREATS. (RIP) TO THE LATE GREAT RAY ARCEL & FREDDY BROWN, TRAINERS OF THE GREAT ROBERTO DURAN. THESE TWO MEN HAD OVER 100 YEARS OF RING ACUMEN BETWEEN THEM, & THEY WERE BOTH GENTLEMEN OF THE OLD BYGONE ERA OF BOXING. FRANKLY HOW THEY HANDLED DURAN IS BEYOND ME! THEY SHOULD BOTH BE IN THE BOXING HALL OF FAME. OTHER GREAT BOXING TRAINERS, SOME OF WHOM HAVE NOW PASSED ON: THE LATE ANGELO DUNDEE; EMMANUEL STEWARD; LOU DUVA ETAL
What a wily old legend. He had such a reverence for Dempsey, I recall him stating on an old VHS boxing documentary quite dismissavily how modern heavyweights would've been no match for the likes of Dempsey.
IMO, Eddie Futch and Ray Arcel were the two greatest trainers in boxing history. Arcel's resume includes training the greatest lightheavyweight (e.g., Ezzard Charles), the 2 greatest lightweights (e.g., Robert Duran, Benny Leonard) and 1 of the top 3 heavyweights (e.g., Larry Holmes) in boxing history.
Master class teacher right there his masterpiece duran, and just wow he is 91 here looks 65 or 70 and he talks of palin around with dempsey and saw benny the ghetto wizard Leonard first hand live in front of him and says about admission to a place was a quarter what a way to start off an interview by saying all that great stuff he actually lived rip to ray a truly remarkable boxing mind
When Mr. Arcel conveyed that Mr. Ali was a ‘great’ fighter, here is the difference between Mr. Ali and Mr. Holmes [whom Mr. Arcel trained as well]. It showed me a bit of overpraise of Mr. Arcel, he is suppose to see the following as a teacher, but he didn’t. Not undermining, but a great trainer has to have books and videos of boxiana’s infinite science. The bar is very high. What is amazing about this composite [ a Holmes v. Ali action photograph ] is that many are duped and don't realize the illusion. Mr. Ali was / is merely popular, whereas Mr. Holmes is principle. One can not learn from any of Mr. Ali's films, [not one] whereas, Mr. Holmes' reels exhibits an array of knowledge for heavyweights to enhance their pugilistic prowess.' Mr. Ali refused wisdom [in choosing the personality of Mr. Dundee over the professorship of Mr. Moore] and today wisdom is nonexistent throughout his films, whereas Mr. Holmes career is timeless because he chose to invest in wisdom, as all current and future fighters need knowledge to expound on to expand their careers inside healthfulness to preserve in and out of ring life. Outside the ring Mr. Holmes shatters the 'boxers are imbeciles' cliche that 'hollywood' falsely portrays in motion pictures because Mr. Holmes used his income and brand to develop and sustain multiple business,' whereas, Mr. Ali propelled the myth and subsequently did not produce fruits with his earnings. Although, Mr. Ali's [name] brand remains 'relevant' today it is merely topical. No one can learn thereof. Boxiana needs a uniform educational system based on [and beginning with] fights for fighters to advance thereof, like all police academies improve protocols and procedures [based on real world progress and or failures] to preserve the lives of citizens and officers simultaneously. Inasmuch as fire and paramedics do with refresher courses. At its apex, all parents would rather choose principle over popular and gladiator over glitter. Boxing Ring Chess Copyright 2018
That was typical in many places in the first 2 decades of the 20th century and in NY in the '20s and I'm not sure if that didn't apply to non title fights only. Lots of decisions rendered in the '20s. Contracts for the Joe Gans / Battling Nelson lightweight title fights in the first decade of the 20th century depended on stoppages and the first in Goldfield Nevada went 42 rounds before Nelson fouled out.
Impressive man, but I've seen the Dempsey-Willard fight a few times. I've never considered it a great "boxing" performance. Dempsey simply overwhelmed the bigger, stronger (and older) champion. There was no finesse involved, just a battering from pillar to post. When Dempsey fought a skilled younger opponent like Gene Tunney, he was not as formidable.
In case anyone was wondering what happened when Dempsey fought the "big black boy" John Lester Johnson. In 1916 Johnson fought future world heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey to a 10-round draw, during which Dempsey suffered several broken ribs.Although a draw, Dempsey later said, "I thought he [Johnson] licked me. I didn't know how to fight then and Johnson did. Yes, I think he won." According to Dempsey he didn't know how to fight when they fought. However, he never request a rematch or fought any black fighters once he learned how.
What a legend 91 years old and looking fantastic.
Boxing royalty.
I cant believe this man was 90 year old here!!
My dad was a club fighter in northeastern Pennsylvania. When my dad was in the army Mr. Arcel sent him two letters stating that he wanted to train him. This was 1946.
This awesome! Ray Arcel. I never thought I would hear him speak! That man deserves to be in the Boxing Hall of Fame. Great trainer!
He is.. The first trainer in the Boxing Hall of Fame.
Ray Arcel was a very very special Trainer .
Omg Dick cavett look's a lot like Ted bundy!
Back in them days the cornermen dressd in slacks shinny shoes a white starchd shirt.they were teachers who would not let you hit the heavybag untlil you learnd how to throw a punch.so they made you shadow box for many rounds at a time.alot of good fighters benifited from his tutelage. Rest in peace ray arcel you gave your heart to the sport
Mr. Arcel looked like a fine example of a human being
Ray Arcel what a wonderful man. Incredible listening to a man who opens the door to a bygone time
Ray Arcel we will never see his like again
The greatest trainer who ever live.
Greatest trainer for the greatest fighter ! DURAN !
Duran in his prime as a lightweight was thee best boxer ever in that division.
bucannan
majorsmythe1 what's crazy is Arcel always maintained Benny Leonard was greater, and he was very involved with both around their primes
@@JeffPenaify Of course Benny is better.If Duran couldn't handle Hearns or even the other Leonard he couldn't hang with Benny for sure
Arcel was the business end of that great corner team that gets due credit for bringing Duran to NYC and a title fight. But It was actually the other old Jew in Duran's corner, Freddie Brown that Roberto credits for teaching him the most that Duran had to polish to fight out of and above the lightweight division. Duran became the very best inside fighter I ever saw. The Palomino fight is a display of a master infighter that wasn't there (or needed) in the Buchanan fight. It's all too rare a talent today and worthy for any pugilistic serious student of infighting to emulate . . . that was the work of decades of studied experience by Freddie Brown as passed on to "Manos de Piedra".
LEGEND in the world of boxing and LEGEND in the world full stop. We miss Ray's wisdom and good grace.
Absolute legend, think of the knowledge that went with him when he passed. RESPECT
Old school trainer!! The best!!
WE were all impressed with Mr. Arcel as a person and a trainer.
PS: DON'T FORGET HIS CO-TRAINER, THE LATE FREDDY BROWN, A GREAT CUTMAN & A TEACHER OF THE "OLD SCHOOL," ERA OF BOXING'S GREATS. (RIP) TO THE LATE GREAT RAY ARCEL & FREDDY BROWN, TRAINERS OF THE GREAT ROBERTO DURAN. THESE TWO MEN HAD OVER 100 YEARS OF RING ACUMEN BETWEEN THEM, & THEY WERE BOTH GENTLEMEN OF THE OLD BYGONE ERA OF BOXING. FRANKLY HOW THEY HANDLED DURAN IS BEYOND ME! THEY SHOULD BOTH BE IN THE BOXING HALL OF FAME. OTHER GREAT BOXING TRAINERS, SOME OF WHOM HAVE NOW PASSED ON: THE LATE ANGELO DUNDEE; EMMANUEL STEWARD; LOU DUVA ETAL
What a wily old legend. He had such a reverence for Dempsey, I recall him stating on an old VHS boxing documentary quite dismissavily how modern heavyweights would've been no match for the likes of Dempsey.
He speaks so calmly and every story it’s full of knowledge. Great man, great trainer and an amazing human being
IMO, Eddie Futch and Ray Arcel were the two greatest trainers in boxing history. Arcel's resume includes training the greatest lightheavyweight (e.g., Ezzard Charles), the 2 greatest lightweights (e.g., Robert Duran, Benny Leonard) and 1 of the top 3 heavyweights (e.g., Larry Holmes) in boxing history.
Don't forget nicolino that guy was legendary
This guy is as sharp as a tack! If I make it to 91 years of age, I hope my mind is as sharp as his.
yes everybody speaks high of him ..he knows what he is talking about for sure great for his age...
My favourite trainer/coach.. probably the greatest coah ever.. developed more champions than any other.
Brilliant!!!
This is amazing 😍 thx
Interesting..and still that sharp at 91! I saw 'Hands of Stone" and I felt they could have made better movie,,,but Deniro as Arcel,,,fantastic!
rondy702 Did they reveal any secret trainer techniques?
rondy702 Deniro is great in everything he does
Love his man. What a wealth of knowledge and experience. I agree with him on Dempsey. That Willard fight was unbelievable.
Love Ray Arcel
The best of all trainers
The greatest trainer ever.
Much Respect . .
Ray was a native of Terre Haute, Indiana.
Thank you :)
Master class teacher right there his masterpiece duran, and just wow he is 91 here looks 65 or 70 and he talks of palin around with dempsey and saw benny the ghetto wizard Leonard first hand live in front of him and says about admission to a place was a quarter what a way to start off an interview by saying all that great stuff he actually lived rip to ray a truly remarkable boxing mind
The best
An amazing mind
Intervista d'oro
Is there any books or videos of Ray Arcel teaching his sweet science?
91 year old in 1990
Grande Roberto Duran Big Champion N1. 🥊🥊
No bueno en middleweight, Hearns , Benitez, Hagler y SRL mucho para Duran
god i love media
When Mr. Arcel conveyed that Mr. Ali was a ‘great’ fighter, here is the difference between Mr. Ali and Mr. Holmes [whom Mr. Arcel trained as well]. It showed me a bit of overpraise of Mr. Arcel, he is suppose to see the following as a teacher, but he didn’t. Not undermining, but a great trainer has to have books and videos of boxiana’s infinite science. The bar is very high.
What is amazing about this composite [ a Holmes v. Ali action photograph ] is that many are duped and don't realize the illusion. Mr. Ali was / is merely popular, whereas Mr. Holmes is principle. One can not learn from any of Mr. Ali's films, [not one] whereas, Mr. Holmes' reels exhibits an array of knowledge for heavyweights to enhance their pugilistic prowess.' Mr. Ali refused wisdom [in choosing the personality of Mr. Dundee over the professorship of Mr. Moore] and today wisdom is nonexistent throughout his films, whereas Mr. Holmes career is timeless because he chose to invest in wisdom, as all current and future fighters need knowledge to expound on to expand their careers inside healthfulness to preserve in and out of ring life. Outside the ring Mr. Holmes shatters the 'boxers are imbeciles' cliche that 'hollywood' falsely portrays in motion pictures because Mr. Holmes used his income and brand to develop and sustain multiple business,' whereas, Mr. Ali propelled the myth and subsequently did not produce fruits with his earnings. Although, Mr. Ali's [name] brand remains 'relevant' today it is merely topical. No one can learn thereof. Boxiana needs a uniform educational system based on [and beginning with] fights for fighters to advance thereof, like all police academies improve protocols and procedures [based on real world progress and or failures] to preserve the lives of citizens and officers simultaneously. Inasmuch as fire and paramedics do with refresher courses. At its apex, all parents would rather choose principle over popular and gladiator over glitter. Boxing Ring Chess Copyright 2018
Holmes resume is not that good compared to Frazier or Foreman. Ali resume is the best in heavyweight history.
He said hearns would never lose at 147 lbs...I guess he must have thought ray leonard was goat when he beat him..by his own standard
I bet Ray Arcel would have been great friends with Mr. Rogers
Wow! A walking encyclopedia, they don't make them like that anymore.
A TRUE GENTLEMAN...NOT LIKE THE MARKETING/ED BRAGGARTS of modern times...
Roberto is the greatest lightweight in boxing history and one of the pound for pound greats
Pound for Pound nope
I did not know that back then .. you had to KO your opponent in order to win ..if not no one wins no draws ..
That was typical in many places in the first 2 decades of the 20th century and in NY in the '20s and I'm not sure if that didn't apply to non title fights only. Lots of decisions rendered in the '20s. Contracts for the Joe Gans / Battling Nelson lightweight title fights in the first decade of the 20th century depended on stoppages and the first in Goldfield Nevada went 42 rounds before Nelson fouled out.
Robert de Niro
Impressive man, but I've seen the Dempsey-Willard fight a few times. I've never considered it a great "boxing" performance. Dempsey simply overwhelmed the bigger, stronger (and older) champion. There was no finesse involved, just a battering from pillar to post. When Dempsey fought a skilled younger opponent like Gene Tunney, he was not as formidable.
I love Ray but Ali would of slapped around the smaller flat footed Dempsey. Ali is no Jess Willard.
Dempsey in his prime had the fastest feet moving forward ever seen on a heavyweight. At his end he lost his bounce...so did Ali at his end.
can you imagine him on the jimmy fallon show!!!! you kept your fighters out of brothels??????? yes i ..... ( fallon interupts) HAHAHAHAHAHA OMG!!!!!!!
Fuck Dick cavett look's remarkably like Ted bundy
In case anyone was wondering what happened when Dempsey fought the "big black boy" John Lester Johnson.
In 1916 Johnson fought future world heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey to a 10-round draw, during which Dempsey suffered several broken ribs.Although a draw, Dempsey later said, "I thought he [Johnson] licked me. I didn't know how to fight then and Johnson did. Yes, I think he won."
According to Dempsey he didn't know how to fight when they fought. However, he never request a rematch or fought any black fighters once he learned how.
Johnson became his sparring partner
I strongly believe that you're full of doo doo