@@Ian-zf5ssYeah, he has a singular Super Bowl with four regular-season MVPs. Dude is a top-five regular-season quarterback, but he is average in the playoffs. He is 11-10. One more loss and he will be a 50% average playoff quarterback.
@@appreciatealltheplayers481 Yea cuz Rodgers a single player is responsible for the other 50 or so players on the team in the playoffs? Why are wins and loses a QB stat? If Rodgers had half the defense that Brady did he would have more superbowls. He averages 280 yards per playoff game and over 2 TDs per playoff game so how is it his fault that the team loses? People like you who treat wins and loses as a QB stat are so bad for the sport.
@@appreciatealltheplayers481You are clueless. Rodgers is #2 All Time with TDS in the Playoffs and Top 5 All Time in Passer Rating in the Playoffs. You saying he is average is straight up incompetence
I'm a Chiefs fan, but have huge respect for Jalen. I think he was injured all last year and the coaching and lack of scheme let the whole team down. (The Eagles are like the Chiefs' in-laws because of the Kelces and Andy Reid).
Like fr. Are we going to miss Kelce? For sure but they obviously don’t know about University of Stoutland. Stout made Kelce. No no knock on Kelce, love him.
I completely understand the Hurts questions. But, theres no way they sitting there acting like that was all Hurts fault when we all were calling out the plays before the snap on 3rd down from our couches. Terrible coaching last season.
One more than all their elite QBs except Mahomes. But you are right if they are going act like Rodgers is all that people like Matt Stafford should be mentioned...atleast he has won Super Bowl in the last decade.
@@cameronlacy3457 Elite is such a subjective word. Dan Marino was pretty good and he never won a superbowl. 🤔 Some people will think he is not elite. He was elite. The question comes up if you never win a superbowl are you elite. Lamar, Allen, Burrow. What if they don't win one.
Media don't like rodgers. But all his teammates do. Rodgers did not make excuses, the excuse he did have were based off the defense sucking forever and him not having a team that played complimentary football. Rodgers in his 19 seasons has only had a top 10 defense 3 times. Mahomes has already had a top 10 defense 4 times. Brady had a top 10 defense 17 times. Out of the 3 times Rodgers had a top 10 defense, he won't a superbowl once. Let's not act like of Rodgers was in his 20s or early 30s with consistent top 10 defenses he wouldn't have more superbowls. Superbowls are a team accomplishment not a QB accomplishment
@@The_ch0sen0ne5 Here's why I think that's the case: Aaron has a deeply flawed ego, which is exacerbated by his fame and wealth. Delusion is just your psyche trying to artificially create a world where it's flaws aren't exposed. Which is Aaron. I suspect his fanboys as well. Rodgers validates their own flaws. So criticizing Rodgers is like criticizing them personally. Hence the passion in their defence of Aaron.
@@dougmiyamoto3109why because he didn’t want to get vaccinated?😂or because he missed some camp? Ur saying people follow him blindly but I can tell ur political affiliation just from ur comment. Ur clearly not a republican😂u just hate Aaron it doesn’t matter what he actually does
You know they always told me you don't celebrate losers in the NFL.....but yet somehow Joe Barrow is always on some kind of best Quarterback list.....it's mind boggling
Rodgers won 2 of the last 5 MVPs, in a league with Mahomes, Jackson, Brady etc. Dude is still elite. One down year with an abysmal offensive roster doesn't change that. Hes about to go scorched earth on the AFC.
@@therlowfoy9738 Manning could never run, had a fused neck and still won a 2nd Superbowl. I think yall place a lil too much importance on mobility. Rodgers won 2 of the last 5 MVPs primarily from the pocket.
MVP's are terrible measurements cause it's just a bunch of journalists who give it to whoever they see flash at that moment. Rodger's last MVP was a toss up between him and 40+ year old Brady. In the real world, Mahomes would win all the MVP's (or Brady in some years) cause he's the most valuable player in the league. Rodgers only won them cause he's in a crap division and media thought his team was bad and he carried them. We found out later that they were pretty good. When's the last time Rodgers won a postseason MVP??? We were probably still using CD's and floppy disks then.
FAVRE WAS AND IS ELITE. 3 STRAIGHT MVPS... BACK TO BACK SUPERBOWL APPEARANCES, 360+ STRAIGHT GAMES PLAYED, AND HE PLAYED WHEN GUYS LIKE GREG LLOYD COULD HIT YOU 3 SECONDS AFTER A PASS. I can give you more....
8-3 with Jets, before getting hurt ), beating #1 team Titans.... Minnesota should have won in NFC championship game vs NO if not for BOUNTY GATE AND THE NFL GIVING NEW ORLEANS A FREEBIE BECAUSE OF KATRINA
So she says an elite QB can play independently great and will their team without a good supporting cast. Burrow has had Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd all at the same time. Thats three pro bowl pass catchers. We don’t know what Burrow is without them. Even then, he’s still had struggles. Lamar, he’s an elite talent. But he chokes when the lights get their brightest. There’s only two truly elite QBs Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. We’ve seen both guys single handedly lead their teams to deep playoff runs .
I love how people just hear 1 Super Bowl and automatically hate Rodgers because he gets talked about. so many babies in every comment section cause we all know in person NONE of them will ever go to Rodgers face and say it to him.
Who is that via satellite? They just said he played 6 years in the nfl. Idk who he is and tbh i guess not a big enough impact to be on espn talking NFL.
So a former MVP and super bowl champion isn’t a elite QB because of an injury!?!? Aaron has been elite for years. What are these guys talking about? He tears his Achilles and he’s no longer elite is a crazy statement. And also saying he isn’t a elite leader? If he isn’t a leader show me one teammate of his who has said that. They are only making these statements because the media doesn’t like him. He’s still a top elite QBs in the NFL and he’s the only elite option the jets have on that offense (and Garrett Wilson).
I can't figure out for the life of me why analysts act like they don't know who a-rod is, can we just pull up his career stats by season and shut these idiots up, he basically never turns the ball over and is capable of making almost any throw. These same analysts will be talking highly of a-rod when things go well, I remember when no one believed in us in 2010 and we won the SuperBowl. Eversince then I realized analysts are flip floppy
@@navyglass1242 um, let me see... His stats for the past 5 years minimum, dude is a phucking disgrace to his TRUE fans which I was back when he was actually an elite quarterback.. foh Rodgers rider
Who is this lady and how did she get this job? Either she has the take if the year or one of the worst. If hurts has more tds then barkley, one of 2 things happened. Barkley got hurt or the eagles have a huge problem at OC.
Why is no one talking about the fact that no athlete in the history of sports has ever played a full season coming from a torn achilles in their mid-thirties on later? Not a single athlete. EVER. They haven't even gotten close to playing a full season the following year. Neither Rodgers nor Cousins are going to play a full season. They might not even play half the season. Why do you all think Atlanta drafted a QB with the #8 overall pick?
Worst take. He played 4 snaps and he is worst in the league in 2023 In all statistical categories. Horrible reference. Horrible question. He just won 2 MVP'S.
No tf he’s not elite lol. He’s a for sure 1st ballot HOFer, but u can’t be in the league for 20 years, win only 1 ring with that also being your only SB appearance, and be considered elite. He’s one of the most overrated QBs I’ve ever seen and never performs well when it matters. There’s a difference between being great and elite.
Of course the guys elite are you serious they’re not gonna mention his final numbers for that season and prior to that season several years prior to the 2022 season his worst season where the Packers didn’t make the playoffs he literally put up 3500 yards 25 touchdowns to just 2 interceptions You told me that a quarterback did that in my team still didn’t make the playoffs I’m not looking at my quarterback I’m looking at other pieces around my quarterback
this aint even first take anymore, stephen a done left this show in the dust
Did he actually leave the show or did he return to his vacation?
called vacation lil bro
It’s called PTO, guess it doesn’t come with being a comment troll on CZcams
It’s still early August, there’s nothing going on. Wait a couple weeks
@@MrMcfly6how was he trolling? Yall weird 😂😂 yall just say ANYTHING
Watching First Take without Shannon, Steven A., Molly or Mad Dogg is simply unacceptable
Who these people? (not damien)
For real
Haven’t seen Aaron Rodgers in so long. It’s hard to say the NFL changes so fast.
The easy answer is no he isn’t elite anymore.
An average year for Rodgers is still elite for majority of QBs.. he doesn’t need to be mvp level but no one should be surprised if he still is
Dumb people think you have to win a Superbowl to be a Elite QB.
Yea and he has a superbowl plus four MVPs
@@Ian-zf5ssYeah, he has a singular Super Bowl with four regular-season MVPs. Dude is a top-five regular-season quarterback, but he is average in the playoffs. He is 11-10. One more loss and he will be a 50% average playoff quarterback.
@@appreciatealltheplayers481 Yea cuz Rodgers a single player is responsible for the other 50 or so players on the team in the playoffs? Why are wins and loses a QB stat? If Rodgers had half the defense that Brady did he would have more superbowls. He averages 280 yards per playoff game and over 2 TDs per playoff game so how is it his fault that the team loses? People like you who treat wins and loses as a QB stat are so bad for the sport.
@@appreciatealltheplayers481You are clueless. Rodgers is #2 All Time with TDS in the Playoffs and Top 5 All Time in Passer Rating in the Playoffs. You saying he is average is straight up incompetence
It’s nasty how they doubt Jalen Hurts
He’s going to have a bounce back season
@@user-kc6qz6ml6rno he won’t you choked away a 10-1 start chiefs took this teams soul
@mike-vc1qm yet hurts is the overall better athlete than lil patty. y don’t u head back to the circus clown 🎪 🤡
I'm a Chiefs fan, but have huge respect for Jalen. I think he was injured all last year and the coaching and lack of scheme let the whole team down. (The Eagles are like the Chiefs' in-laws because of the Kelces and Andy Reid).
A 10-1 start??? Choke??? Lmao what??? That's a TD and a field goal?? Lmfaooo@@mike-vc1qm
KEEEEEEEEP DOUBTING HURTS I LOVE IT!!!!!!
Like fr. Are we going to miss Kelce? For sure but they obviously don’t know about University of Stoutland. Stout made Kelce. No no knock on Kelce, love him.
I love Jordan love more ❤️
I completely understand the Hurts questions. But, theres no way they sitting there acting like that was all Hurts fault when we all were calling out the plays before the snap on 3rd down from our couches. Terrible coaching last season.
This is like 5th take 😂🤣 except for Courtney Cronin she rocks
Courtney is trash lol
One superbowl in 20 years. Other qbs have that. Brad Johnson, Dilfer, Foles, Flacco.
One more than all their elite QBs except Mahomes. But you are right if they are going act like Rodgers is all that people like Matt Stafford should be mentioned...atleast he has won Super Bowl in the last decade.
So Dan Marino was not elite?
@@cameronlacy3457 Elite is such a subjective word. Dan Marino was pretty good and he never won a superbowl. 🤔 Some people will think he is not elite. He was elite. The question comes up if you never win a superbowl are you elite. Lamar, Allen, Burrow. What if they don't win one.
Casual alert ⚠️ 📢
😢
@Manderenn he's a casual clearly 😂
This lil' Leading Lady journalists reminds me of the new Grettah Garrbo smiling journal of greatness
40 years old in 2024 ain’t the same as 40 years old in 2000.
Moore just said he’s gonna use hurts speed but will be smart about it.
I can't even watch this. It has no character without them.
The excuses made for Rodgers for years upon years never ceases to amaze
Apparently he’s the golden boy. He can do no wrong in some people’s eyes
Media don't like rodgers. But all his teammates do. Rodgers did not make excuses, the excuse he did have were based off the defense sucking forever and him not having a team that played complimentary football. Rodgers in his 19 seasons has only had a top 10 defense 3 times. Mahomes has already had a top 10 defense 4 times. Brady had a top 10 defense 17 times. Out of the 3 times Rodgers had a top 10 defense, he won't a superbowl once. Let's not act like of Rodgers was in his 20s or early 30s with consistent top 10 defenses he wouldn't have more superbowls. Superbowls are a team accomplishment not a QB accomplishment
@@The_ch0sen0ne5 Here's why I think that's the case: Aaron has a deeply flawed ego, which is exacerbated by his fame and wealth. Delusion is just your psyche trying to artificially create a world where it's flaws aren't exposed. Which is Aaron. I suspect his fanboys as well. Rodgers validates their own flaws. So criticizing Rodgers is like criticizing them personally. Hence the passion in their defence of Aaron.
@@navyglass1242 All his teammates? LOL
@@dougmiyamoto3109why because he didn’t want to get vaccinated?😂or because he missed some camp? Ur saying people follow him blindly but I can tell ur political affiliation just from ur comment. Ur clearly not a republican😂u just hate Aaron it doesn’t matter what he actually does
Wait he’s considered elite? He has one ring from 14 years ago!!!!! 😂 😂
Where is Shannon?
He will be back when the NFL season starts.
Courtney is so fine
more important than this boring banter
She’s pushing 40 buddy
@@TRiXz_2K 40 year olds can’t be fine? 😂😂
@@TRiXz_2Klol so 34 is pushing 40? Stop hating on what you can’t get homie
Her legs are crazy nice!! 💯
The guy has won 4 MVPs. If they took a survey asking NFL players they would all say he's elite, guaranteed..
Championships make you elite, not popularity awards.
I hate this world where it takes just 1 season to be crowned and 1 season to fall off....What ever happened to body of work and consistency???
What has rodgers done lately? Lmfaoooo it’s been like 3 years since he’s been relevant
@Chupapiyayaya huh? In 2021, he won his 2nd of back to back MVPs to make it 4 total...
@@kylewatson49002021 was 3 years ago....
@@Chupapiyayayawhy not just do simple math before making statements. He was a league mvp in 2022
It's a little hard to watch without the crew unfortunately
It’s hard to watch with the crew
I don’t know why I thought that white guy was max 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This Kevin Clark guy is on 150mg adderall
You know they always told me you don't celebrate losers in the NFL.....but yet somehow Joe Barrow is always on some kind of best Quarterback list.....it's mind boggling
Why didn’t she mention Dak’s bad interception year was under Kellen Moore which is who is the OC for Jalen Hurts now.. 🤔
Damien woody brain trying over and over again to say try and say “The fact of the matter” is comedy
Rodgers won 2 of the last 5 MVPs, in a league with Mahomes, Jackson, Brady etc. Dude is still elite. One down year with an abysmal offensive roster doesn't change that. Hes about to go scorched earth on the AFC.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rodgers can't outrun my grandmother and she's dead!
@@therlowfoy9738 naaah 💀
@@therlowfoy9738 Manning could never run, had a fused neck and still won a 2nd Superbowl. I think yall place a lil too much importance on mobility. Rodgers won 2 of the last 5 MVPs primarily from the pocket.
MVP's are terrible measurements cause it's just a bunch of journalists who give it to whoever they see flash at that moment. Rodger's last MVP was a toss up between him and 40+ year old Brady. In the real world, Mahomes would win all the MVP's (or Brady in some years) cause he's the most valuable player in the league. Rodgers only won them cause he's in a crap division and media thought his team was bad and he carried them. We found out later that they were pretty good. When's the last time Rodgers won a postseason MVP??? We were probably still using CD's and floppy disks then.
"from the neck up.. he's elite" Ayoo 😭👉🏾
No, its been 3 years since he threw for over 300 yards in a game. He should be considered a possible comeback player is it
Im Lovin Courtney. Almost as much as I love Rutledge.
Lol, there are so few good QBs in the NFL. How can he not be Elite.
Rodgers was and is elite right up to the minute he decides to retire!
Elite at choking
I remember when " they" said henwas better than Brady 😂😂😂
he might not be elite but he can most definitely still do elite things
That recency bias is crazy. 2 MVP seasons. 1 bad season when they still almost made playoffs. And an injury now he can't do anything smh
At least Aaron Rodgers got his money, but he’s done being a quarterback to many young bucks😢😅
#pause big wood lmao
Was Brett Favre still elite in his second season with the Jets, after leaving the Packers? I mean their paths have been pretty identical so far, js.
He was good in Minnesota didn’t get them to the playoffs and wouldn’t he like? Didn’t he win 13 games there
FAVRE WAS AND IS ELITE. 3 STRAIGHT MVPS... BACK TO BACK SUPERBOWL APPEARANCES, 360+ STRAIGHT GAMES PLAYED, AND HE PLAYED WHEN GUYS LIKE GREG LLOYD COULD HIT YOU 3 SECONDS AFTER A PASS. I can give you more....
@@AntonioFerguson-ym3khFavre was MVP with Vikings... don't deny it.
8-3 with Jets, before getting hurt ), beating #1 team Titans.... Minnesota should have won in NFC championship game vs NO if not for BOUNTY GATE AND THE NFL GIVING NEW ORLEANS A FREEBIE BECAUSE OF KATRINA
Favre broke every record possible. The rule changes have tarnished new record holders. Watch the hits Brett took in his career, got up, and threw TDs.
Rodgers has to be elite if he wants to past mahomes Allen and Cincinnati Bengals quarterback
“Hasn’t been elite in the last 4-5 years” lmao he has 2 of the last 4 MVPs
So she says an elite QB can play independently great and will their team without a good supporting cast.
Burrow has had Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd all at the same time. Thats three pro bowl pass catchers. We don’t know what Burrow is without them. Even then, he’s still had struggles.
Lamar, he’s an elite talent. But he chokes when the lights get their brightest.
There’s only two truly elite QBs Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. We’ve seen both guys single handedly lead their teams to deep playoff runs .
That women is right on 🎉
Hurts can absolutely be a league MVP this guy is delusional and shouldn’t be on TV
wool socks to bed=life changing sleep quality⬜🟫
I love how people just hear 1 Super Bowl and automatically hate Rodgers because he gets talked about. so many babies in every comment section cause we all know in person NONE of them will ever go to Rodgers face and say it to him.
Hes better then brady
Show is so boring without the original crew !!!! Woke up and immediately changed the channel
buddy must be a jets fan
Did you just compare labron james to Tom Terrific?
1:46-1:48 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Even if he gets hurt, Jets have a pretty decent backup QB.
Noooooooo
Rodgers aint the same.
Just won MVP 2 years like be fr lol
He was never elite. He’s a decent qb who has put up numbers. He’s basically a rich man’s Dak.
Their Answer to is Rogers elite is that he doesn’t have to be…. 🤔
Packers vs who in the Super Bowl? Jets or chiefs? 🤔 or even bengals?
This is absolutely the worst lineup outside of woody that first take has EVER put on. INCLUDING Ryan Hollins.
Who is that via satellite? They just said he played 6 years in the nfl. Idk who he is and tbh i guess not a big enough impact to be on espn talking NFL.
Stephen still on his 3 month vacation
He was on first take on Friday they were in Chicago doing the show
So a former MVP and super bowl champion isn’t a elite QB because of an injury!?!? Aaron has been elite for years. What are these guys talking about? He tears his Achilles and he’s no longer elite is a crazy statement. And also saying he isn’t a elite leader? If he isn’t a leader show me one teammate of his who has said that. They are only making these statements because the media doesn’t like him. He’s still a top elite QBs in the NFL and he’s the only elite option the jets have on that offense (and Garrett Wilson).
Who is this geek talking about Hurts
No !
I can't figure out for the life of me why analysts act like they don't know who a-rod is, can we just pull up his career stats by season and shut these idiots up, he basically never turns the ball over and is capable of making almost any throw. These same analysts will be talking highly of a-rod when things go well, I remember when no one believed in us in 2010 and we won the SuperBowl. Eversince then I realized analysts are flip floppy
F no 😂
Next segment please
Based off what? What metrics is Rodgers not an elite QB?
Why does it say that u watched 12 of the 14 minute video then?😂we found Aaron Rodger’s biggest fan
@@navyglass1242last season with the packers, done.
St fu and go back to Jets L cave.
@@navyglass1242 um, let me see...
His stats for the past 5 years minimum, dude is a phucking disgrace to his TRUE fans which I was back when he was actually an elite quarterback.. foh Rodgers rider
Who is this lady and how did she get this job? Either she has the take if the year or one of the worst. If hurts has more tds then barkley, one of 2 things happened. Barkley got hurt or the eagles have a huge problem at OC.
Hey if you consider dak top 10 (of Rodgers has that defense when he was younger we would have went to more Superbowls) Rodgers top 9 hands down
Why is no one talking about the fact that no athlete in the history of sports has ever played a full season coming from a torn achilles in their mid-thirties on later? Not a single athlete. EVER. They haven't even gotten close to playing a full season the following year.
Neither Rodgers nor Cousins are going to play a full season. They might not even play half the season. Why do you all think Atlanta drafted a QB with the #8 overall pick?
Who tf is that guy
No. Because he never should've been called elite anyways. 😂
Can you give me a definition of an elite QB?
Elite is the top tier of qbs, ur saying he won all those mvps and wasn’t even in the same tier as those qbs?😂let me guess u aren’t a republican lol
@@kylewade8704 ....same for you. Which one of Dewayne Wade's sons are you ?
@@navyglass1242not a Jets qb, thats it.
Lord have mercy…No “Stephen A.”..No “Madd Dogg”…smh; I can do without Molly though.
Mad dog on Wednesdays
Rogers is a baller!
No. The problem with A. Rodgers is no matter where he goes, he takes himself with him.
Why is white dude head so big?
These people are clueless. I’m going to work for espn
I like Love but can we chill with this narrative? He had 9 good games under his belt...
Ugh 🙄 They got the Game Managers on again today. God Summer sucks, all there is is the Olympics and boring, have me snoring baseball.
I think he 1000% should still be considered an elite QB if Stafford and Goff are considered elite so is Rodgers
👎🏻 NO.
No he’s average QB that’s it
Lol then so is brady
Nope
Who are these people
KAMALA HARRIS PLAYS DEFENSE BETTER THAN ALL BLACK PLAYERS ON DEFENSE
Who are these people. Whsts going on
same topic again & again & again & again
MVP coming
Worst take. He played 4 snaps and he is worst in the league in 2023 In all statistical categories. Horrible reference. Horrible question. He just won 2 MVP'S.
No
Y'all really went to the bottom of the barrel for this lineup...
Who tf are these guys
Considering he’s the 2nd best player at his position, yeah I’d say that’s pretty elite 😂
No tf he’s not elite lol. He’s a for sure 1st ballot HOFer, but u can’t be in the league for 20 years, win only 1 ring with that also being your only SB appearance, and be considered elite. He’s one of the most overrated QBs I’ve ever seen and never performs well when it matters. There’s a difference between being great and elite.
What are these women doing on these shows??? What an embarrassment.
No he isn't. Far from elite
We won't know until he plays again
That’s like saying we won’t know if Mahomes is elite still until he plays again, u can say it about anyone in a sport where there’s isn’t a grantee
@@kylewade8704 he didn't play all of last year lol and he's also with an entire different franchise
@@kylewade8704 not to mention the fact that Rodgers is 12 years older than mahomes lol
Of course the guys elite are you serious they’re not gonna mention his final numbers for that season and prior to that season several years prior to the 2022 season his worst season where the Packers didn’t make the playoffs he literally put up 3500 yards 25 touchdowns to just 2 interceptions You told me that a quarterback did that in my team still didn’t make the playoffs I’m not looking at my quarterback I’m looking at other pieces around my quarterback
The other Achilles will pop by week 4
Smh Jordan played god awful at the first half of the year and played cream puffs the rest of the year
The hurts glaze is crazy lol
Kevin Clark is an absolute joke of an analyst. Idiot actually gets paid for being that bad. He worked for the Ringer .. that tracks.
Just
Endure
The
Suffering