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- The New Yorker's Ronan Farrow recently investigated the commercial spyware industry and its implications for democracies around the world. He tells Hari Sreenivasan what he found.
Originally aired on April 25, 2022
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Ronan is a brilliant person who is not afraid of hard research. I appreciate his contributions.
The brilliance is the people who create this stuff. Doing a story on it is hardly brilliant.
Brilliant? Not enough to recognize that more good than harm is being done with this software. To somehow shame the US Government into not using such tools runs common to counter sense.
@@ak203 It is when the whole malware schtick is about staying under the radar.
@@ak203 The clarity of Ronan's reporting is well within the brilliant category.
Nothing really new here, just Ronan's usual sensationalist schtick. Its not the story, its the sensational twist to it even if you have to bend the truth about the magnitude.
This guy is an exemplary journalist. Delivers the facts, plain and simple - the journalist's duty.
How would the average person know all of this? Thank goodness there are people like Ronan Farrow doing the hard work for us.
This is widely known and there have been many articles about it. Nothing new at all in his story.
Snowden said it over a decade ago. The question that matters is - what does the average person do about it (other than WhatsApping it around the globe (and back - a few times) and forget about it?
@@sangeet9100 zactly!!??
George Bush used spy ware on Americans to "fight terrorism", they were so scared they applauded Our freedom being stolen on lies!,
@@sangeet9100 This news was broke back in the 80s or 90s when news of Echelon was released. Snowden didn't reveal anything that wasn't already public knowledge. What Snowden did was try to obfuscate the fact that he was selling information to the Russians and Chinese.
Ronan restores my faith in journalism he is a bright light.
Ronan knows how to explain difficult issues in average day language.
That’s the gift of a good communicator .
Ronan is one of the journalists in the US. He is fearless. We need to make sure he is protected.
Ronan Farrow is our national treasure. He is fearless and brilliant.
I totally agree!
Ronan Farrow is an investigative reporter that is right on with whatever he has taken on. Very thorough and tells a story that is clear and decisive.
Ronan needs to do an investigation into Oprah Winfrey. The same type of research as he did on Harvey Weinstein.
Ronan Farrow's work is superb
Ronan is indeed super-brilliant, articulate, courageous,and politically astute. And what is so rare is that he has integrity. Plus he is an excellent writer. I wish he had bodyguards b/c he is so good at what he does he is surely pissing off some powerful, vengeful men. Thank you, Ronan , for your very important work.
I’d be willing to bet he has security.
Thank you Ronan F. for informing the public. It's refreshing to see a smart handsome young man using his brains instead of his looks to make a living and contribute to the better good.
This needs 85 Million views, not thousand. As a lifelong geek, I knew this kind of thing was possible and with revelations over the past decade or so the suspicion was confirmed, but hearing about the effects and seeing it manifest in reality is truly sobering.
Brave New World we find ourselves in
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I knew when I studied computer info systems in 1981-85 built ATM at bank before was one at any bank. Immediately knew Apps were bad unless I control that subroutine
Ambush territory...
So true, it should be seen by everyone on earth who uses social media-
And Edward Snowden is called a traitor for sharing information about NSA spyware. It is a crazy world. He is a hero to me.
Our world needs more beautiful journalist. Ronan Farrow tells it like it is!
Yes, because his appearance makes his work more valuable? The world needs fewer shallow people.
@@undercoverreseller205 well, speaking for myself, I don't find him attractive at all, but find him to be a beautiful person 😀.
He believes USA demogracy are in dangereous by spy. He is correct but not show up how USA media spell mis information in order control people mindsm he are so dishonest hipocresy.
Let's be real. He is very pretty, and an excellent journalist.
Of course, I don't care if a journalist is pretty or not, as long as they do their job well.
How about more ethical skilled smart journalists regardless of beauty..
THIS is what Investigative Journalism is all about! Thank you Mr Farrow!
This is not news, at least for your computer (and therefore your phone). Hasn't everyone had a off-line conversation about something, only to see an ad for it the very same day? But thanks to Mr. Farrow for telling everyone who hasn't ever questioned this circumstance.
It's so creepy to see those ads pop up
I never understood why internet companies were allowed to Spy on private user's data. If a shopping mall employee got a woman's purse to steal her data, he would be imprisoned on the spot. Why is Google, Facebook, and others allowed to do it?
because the people writing laws do not understand how powerful technology is, or even really have the basic ideas of how it works. The average person doesnt realize how many times a day they potentially expose themselves to data miners and people who are spying on you for the purposes of aggreggating your data and selling it as a profile to market to. Politicians heavily rely on these data profiles to use to trick their voters
@@agny369 Indeed, these companies also threaten to leave the country entirely if they don't get everything they want. All countries should expell them if they don't stop spying on the population, then they wouldn't have anywhere else to go.
@@riccardo9383 We have a serious problem, because all the people who have the most intelligence and foresight , know better than to get into politics, both for personal mental health , safety, and financial reasons, not to mention the extremely toxic dark cloud thats constantly over the capitol building.
So you have these uninformed, egomaniacs, who rarely are running to make a difference, theyve just realized that this is now the easiest way in America to become famous, who don't listen to experts, and just make shit up about things they know nothing about. Legislators should be required to employ non partisan experts as staff on any industry specific legislation, we can figure out the definition of expert when the time comes.
I'm graduating with a Bachelors in Computer Prog. and Information Systems in a month (at 37 years old), and even I , as a practically straight A student in the field, know how complicated the internet is and how vulnerable we all are to being spied on, stolen from, having our infrastructure shut down remotely from a hostile foreign power, and also the disinformation campaigns that are run by now domestic enemies as well. I had to take a speech class along the way , during the 2020 election season , related to my major, and I picked social media disinformation as my topic.
That was between the election and the insurrection, and I still have the powerpoint. It was discussed in plain view on far right websites very violently and publically, and its hard to imagine these group of morons in congress taking any action to solve this problem of flooding the zone with bullshit so that the ignorant just assume that whoever they trust is right and they are true believers.
I believe people will be held to account eventually, mainly because I have to, but with the amount of surveillance that tech companies have the abiliy to do and are deputized by the Federal government to handle, I'm surprised that no one has pieced together a complete and total timeline of every single conspirator involved in that plot. Im not a braggard and I wish I was wrong sometimes, but it's almost as if I turned into a psychic the moment I started digging into the political mud in 2020, out of concern for the truth.
Long winded reply but man have I got alot on my mind lately, I gotta release some of this somewhere, lol.
because the dod created them for surveillance.
It's clear that corporations get their way in the US. Human beings are their cash crop.
This is another example of why we need to fix Congress. America is so behind on addressing issues such as technology and privacy. Mitch McConnell has weakened this country. Thank Ronan for your outstanding work.💜🇺🇸🦄
We GAVE our government the right to spy on us….. hahaha! The Patriot Act tore up our constitution….
This technology is a valued law enforcement tool. Interested in someone for a serious crime, you can pull their phone calls and texts prior to and after the crime. Sadly, it’s not going away.
You, we, need to fix technology, not Congress.
You can have whatever meaningful legislation you could come up with and still have spying and "law" agencies violating the law for years and years in the name of "protecting us from terror and instability". Remember the following quote?
"I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment."
They spy on every word you ever publish online, on every search word, on every webpage you load, on every action, including here, and put you on watch lists based on your views. They care nothing about the law, you usually can never prove they did anything wrong, and if you can, the judicial system in the US is designed to do nothing about it (look up "sovereign immunity in the US").
Once we fix technology: the wave of freedom will force a tsunami of bottom-up radical change in the political system.
@@Erin-Thor people who complain about crime shouldn't complain about Pegasus.
Excuse me, BIDEN IS the one who's destroying America ❗
As someone who's under witness protection, I can personally attest to the veracity of everything Ronan says here. This is a very dangerous and scary genie 😳
If you were under witness protection you would not be commenting here!
@@patriciadassier6792 why not? A person loses their free speech rights when placed in witness protection? Gee you learn something new everyday!
Bruh. You’re putting way too much trust in Googles security. Don’t post.
Ronan is the essence of true journalism ☮️💟
Once again, brilliant reporting by Ronan Farrow. You're doing the Lord's work. Love me some Ronan! 🙌🏽
the lord's work?? Ronan farrow is a sanctimonious egomaniac. I can't stand him. he's obviously a smart guy who has accomplished a tremendous amount at a young age - but still, he leaves nothing but a bad taste in my mouth every time I see him. He is more of an activist than a journalist - an activist with a near-fanatical agenda who writes stories to support that agenda. (and I'm not that far from him in terms of politics.)
He's the gift that keeps giving
He is a blessing ❤💕🌹
Mia has every right to be proud! And he does look just like his dad~and I ain't talking about Woody, clearly.
I agree that Ronan is a great example of an excellent journalist.
Yes, his mother has every right to be proud of her son.
We all need to think about privacy and at the same time being able to share thoughts online without being financially and personally compromised
There is no real privacy anymore, internet allowed us to be monitored by anyone. You can turn every communicative electric device working for you.
Only way to have more privacy is to toss all electronic devices and return into the stone age.
What's so engaging to me about Ronan, aside from his brilliance and erudition, is realizing we're all in on this big and, frankly, undeniable open secret that piques our human interest.
You're comment ❗
Oh Yeah
Ever since I allowed my daughter to go on the internet and have a phone I told her that her footprint or her presence was like putting her personal details on a bulletin that the whole school and neighborhood could see.
This is far far worse.
I understand he’s a serious journalist and everything, but my lord that’s a handsome man!
His fiance would agree with you
He looks so much like his mom. About his looks, I'd rather hear all the world's bad news, of which there's too much everywhere, from handsome Ronan than people like John Brennan, who's not only old and ugly, but is also far from truthful.
@@GladysAlicea I was referring to Hari Sreenivasan.
Mia Farrow + Frank Sinatra = Stunning 🤩
@@HappyLife-wv5ms I’ll believe it when Maury gets the test results back!
Ronan is a rich kid that grew up to be a very intelligent and useful person who helps the world. What a great testimony to his Mother Mia Farrow.
He is so articulate and brings sunlight to (forgotten) issues. Thank you Mia for raising such a fine son. Thank you Ronan for all your work.❣💕
Absolutely Brilliant young man imho. Thank you 🙏
Thanks for publicizing this report. I read it in The New Yorker, but now it’s reaching a wider audience. Good and important reporting.
Awesome. We as a species have just collectively spend thousands of dollars in equipment to bug our own lives.
Wow! I think, writing letters and sending out my thoughts by UPS it is safer, maybe, maybe!
Thanks Ronan, for this reporting!
Another important piece of research and reporting that we need to teach in schools. Thank you Ronan Farrow . I’m always mindful about what this man could have chosen to do with his life and time given his family history, wealth and frankly fantastic looks. It’s a truly great example for young people. His Mother should be extremely proud.
Ronan is definitely the sharpest knife in the drawer.
I wonder if his Sinatra bio father is proud of his son...busting the international mob!!
....and in most any drawer he's ever visited. Makes for a lonely existence but maybe he's learned his way around that part of things. Hopefully!
TY for Amanpour & Co Team for highlighting some really core issues that mainstream media often overlooks and brushes off... Thank you for not shying away from controversial stories and figures and allowing viewers to make our own conclusions.
The Internet is a scary place now...I miss the 90s Internet when it was just us nerds and outcast
And we searched using Gopher n
I probably think this about once a day!
Ronan is a great investigative journalist & he's beautiful too! I am completely jealous. 💚
I agree 👏
How can I tear my eyes off him.? He’s the most beautiful creature I’ve ever seen.
Omg he’s a great journalist and amazing good looking. Wow can’t believe my eyes
He is a true journalist! Very good at what he does. And he's lovely to look at,too.
We must protect Ronan at all costs!
research Edward Snowden
Richard Stallman
He's such a bright, intelligent, thorough young man. And he is Frank Sinatra's spitting image! 😍🙏👍💖
Frank was never that pretty was he?
@@jacpratt8608 He was rather unattractive. Ronan looks like him but is pretty.
Ronan is a fabulous reporter!!! Always looking forward to seeing what he is investigating! Ronan, rocks!!
That's why when you're having a meeting amongst comrades in the peace-environmental-justice-indigenous-civil-LGBTQ-human rights and antifascist-ETC (hello!) movements, you have a "pants off" policy. That is, you leave your phones not only off but in a wire mesh bag well outside of the meeting space; and that, preferably outdoors. Happy camping friends. The trees aren't listening in... yet.
Or just do what Snowden shows everybody how to in his documentary & his interviews. Physically disconnect the phone & mic on your devices.
Doesn't work in zoom era or needing to communicate across distance
This is Israel we are talking about. Toss in a couple of ex STASI agents along with some from the plethora of US agencies, and the trees won't listen.... They will talk.
The FBI mislabels these groups "extremists". Best to keep your cells far away
Thank You Ronan Farrow! "Keep on keeping on " with your leadership in Journalism & your inspiration for those who also want to be journalists. 🇺🇸🦅🗽⌨🗒🖊
I’m going to have to watch this three times in order to allow myself to take it all in.
It’s so dark.
Thank you, Ronan, you and people like you are the hope of my children and my children, children's generation.
Excellent point.
NEVER put anything into an email, tweet, post, message that you would not tell your mother.
💯
I told my mother about George Walkers' Kompromat Rumor. All four of my tires were stabbed within two hours of the email. This happened again, when I replaced the tires, and emailed mom AND dad, this time. Spoiler Alert: George swallowed many Coronas or whatever beers there were. Now, everybody knows. He wanted it ...that way.
@@pierceaero3005 Are you being serious? 😳
Never out anything on paper or computer you wouldn’t want to see on the TV.
@@LoriAW3791 Yes. I worked for a lab in Sorrento Valley here by La Jolla. My boss there had partied with W in the summer of '72, and discussed what happened. He drank a lot. I had a vintage '55 two door hard top with wide whitewall tires. I had to put modern radials on it, which were also stabbed. Obama was saying my email was safe at that point in time. No. My Tri-Five American Classic said otherwise. It is in the film, A Beautiful Mind, in the front porch scene, across the street, and on the right side of the screen. White top, black body. The front left tire shows, and was already a radial then, when filmed. Film mistake. Radials did not exist yet. It went unnoticed. The other three were older bias ply wide white tires of the day. It is listed on International Movie Car Data Base, IMCDB. The stabbings were later in 2008 and 2009. A classic American Buick Super power, and film prop, and they were attacking it. I have family in the Capital Building, Library of Congress, and the Whitehouse, Secret Service for decades too. My guess is it made things worse when I forwarded the email to the Library of Congress, ISBN department, to a parental sibling that decides what is legally fiction and nonfiction in America. As a person threatened on January 6, you can guess what that family member thinks about George Walkers' truth. His Bone in Skull Club Minions are stabby drunks.
Anyone who sees what I'm up to by spying on me through my phone is going to die of boredom lol
They get what they deserve with me. Recipes and skin care , sewing and gardening, the ba&tards.
God! He's beautiful! And obviously also a force for good, but... I kind of can't focus on words when his face is shown on the screen.
He looks like a god.
😂Good. It’s not just me.😂
Thank you so much for this vital reporting! It's heartening to know that big tech companies are taking action. I will patch up pronto!
Really frightening. Frankly, not surprised at all.
💗 Ronan Farrow! 👍 Great piece of reporting on Pegasus! Implications are terrifying though 😳
Ronan, love you man but please,please be careful out there. Snowden had to leave the country for his divulgence and exposure to this very subject.
My fiance and I were talking marriage.... next thing we had on each of our phones ads for rings and dresses. We hadnt done a search, it was obviously listening phones.
Most diamonds sold actually come from Russia. Don’t feed the monster.
Farrow is aces. I marvel at how he grew up in the milieu he did and turned out like he has.
Start spreading the news! This article is DECENT!
I'll be frank with you; I believe I understand your reference here. 😉🎵🎵
love Hari! thx for being a great reporter!
America needs more investigational journalists.
Ronan is one of the last real journalists left in the u.s.a.
I wholeheartedly agree with you! I’m both impressed and blown away by his style of reporting and the fact that he goes after important and timely issues!
How amazing that by just returning to the basics of investigative journalism that he now finds himself all alone in a crowded field!
Bravo Ronan!
Hopefully, more truth activists will come forward to keep us aware,of spyware, etc. and that their efforts will stop the intrusion of privacy in all forms.
Democratic now too but they're being suppress so the most important stories don't get attention unfortunately
Good job Ronan.
he's a brilliant journalist. totally irrelevant to his amazing ability, but damn, watching him, he looks a lot like Frank.
He looks and is nothing like Frank. He looks like Mia.
Frank had a vasectomy He looks like Mia.
@@steppenwolf3252 Some time ago, I read an illustrated article about RF and there is a photo of him in adolescence, and the resemblance to his mother was extraordinary.
Frank Farrow?
I was dating a German au pair whose friend was the nanny for a doctor on the other side of town. We were at their house back in August, 1991 when his wife received the telephone call from a West Virginia state trooper informing them that her brother in law, Danny Casolaro, had been found dead in a hotel bathtub in West virginia, apparently after drinking a single beer (he had been sober for decades). He had slashed his own wrists so aggressively that there were razor marks deep into the bone.
Turns out he was researching a software called Promis, which was created by a government contractor with ties to Israel, named Inislaw.
The over-arching conspiracy he was writing a book about was called "the octopus" because its tentacles reached into every intelligence and law enforcement agency in the western world. Promis was ostensibly a "prosecution management information system" but the backdoors and ties to echelon made it a juicy playground for conspiracists.
Omg 😲
Our smartphones have truly outsmarted us. If I have to spend most of my free time trying to protect my smartphone from being surveilled, maybe it's time to go back to just a simple flip phone with nothing on it. The whole world seems to be out of control anymore.
Jitter Bug
Flip phones are also interconnected now. Old ones no longer available
Far more dangerous is the “anonymized” data that advertising companies and law enforcement buy.
If you keep the parameters and locations small it has been shown these can relatively quickly be non-anonymized.
You don’t need the illegal spyware when the legal stuff gives you almost as much information
Everyone should have watched the Oliver segment.
Ronan please use your expertise to save our democracy.
I adore Ronan
Thank you Ronan. This confirms alot of suspicion. Please be safe
We're fast approaching 1984.. if we aren't there already. So long privacy!
the honesty inside makes him intoxicatingly attractive
Ronan’s back -
and what better story to break than this
Wow… makes you wish you could go back to land lines. I’m not scared of what would be found, but more that it’s an invasion of privacy and puts your data in even more jeopardy.
they record convo on landlines, too, but they are still safer. i asked an AT&T tech about getting a landline and he said it costs $85 a Month, now!!😳
Am hanging on to my landline.
good thing i kept my old nokia 3210 with 3 brand new batteries . i'll be ok with just sms frankly
Sounds like we all need to go back to the Almighty Flip Phone.
nokia 3310 . i've got one with 3 spare batteries from back in the day. when it rings half of people in the bus pass out
Great reporting!
I am sure my Android phone is hacked. For the past few months - since I moved to the DC area and got a 202 number - my phone just shuts off at random times, day or night. And when it comes on again - there's a Notification -VOICE RECORDER and the exact minute the phone went down.
I'm elderly and retired and have no political involvement at all.
Perhaps they're spying on my Cats?
I was spied on by the FBI for not supporting the Iraq war.
Did they go into your house & car too? Vandalism?
@@childrenslivesmatter3073 - Just my home...
The best thing today is to write hand written letters like 30 years ago with citrus ink between the lines. Greetings from Linz-Austria 🇦🇹😎👍👆😸🐺 Europe!
or everyone uses nokia 3310 with just sms .
An exemplary journalist
Ronan rules.
Thank you
While we are still online, one message to everyone : keep cash!
Ronan Farrow is priceless.
Ronan is exactly like his beautiful mother 💕👏👍
I have had two phones ruined by this because I put pro Palestinian comments and share Israeli crimes. It is about time it was recognised that this is against human rights and free speech. I never use hate speech. My posts are highlighting what is happening with brutal child arrests etc, things that Israel doesn't want the world to see as it spoils its own narrative.
I am sure they sold it to Russia as well. They have become great pals as of late! And China definitely has had it for a while now. The citizens claim that their every move and social media post is watched. We have known for a while about them being able to spy on us thru our phones, Alexa, the new televisions, etc. There is no privacy any more.
Palestinians have done far far worse!! Maybe tell the truth!!
Israel is a highly fascist country and this said my father even 50 years ago.
Hmmm selective reading of you think the Palestinians have done far worse!! They lived peacefully in their country until they were forced out. This selective understanding is why America doesnt get the truth of what's happening. Unlike some people I don't actually want to erase Israel, and actually my Palestinian friends tell me they don't either. But that doesn't fit the racist rhetoric does it? Trolls who follow the Israeli State and US narrative can't abide the truth. Simply look at the laws imposed by Israel if you can stomach the truth. They are there, factual and objective of any emotion and they are clearly one nation and apartheid, they discriminate on the basis of nationality. But people are selective in what they want to believe sadly. No matter what truth I will write and with however much evidence, those who want to hide their hearts in the sand of racism and ignorance will do so with basic and childish responses. And the manpower is there in Israel as every single person must be in the army, 2 years for women and 3 years for men, and this includes It, so this country has forced conscription, but that is never mentioned either, and enough trolls to challenge every truth and damage every phone or equipment that doesn't follow their rhetoric.
Jimmy Carter wrote a book about this.
Ronan is fearless and have so much respect for them
I respect Ronan Farrow's exceptional and brilliant journalism - all of his stories are so complex and fascinating but forgive me lord, I watch him and see Frank Sinatra's eyes. This man is just too beautiful to stay focused. I am trying.
I am soooo right there with you on that!
Totally agree! He is too pretty! Just staring his face without really hearing anything.
Its called paying attention and just complicit to whats going on..!
This is a damn good piece of work.
Very informative facts. Thank goodness for such a Brilliant mind of Ronan & for your tireless thorough reporting. Thank you!
Excellent reporting!
Thank you!
even if you talk to a friend about a product (face to face) and your phone is near you? you will soon get ads or videos for that product! even though you never looked it up! but ppl over look as nothing.
This is shameful!🤬🤬🤬
Ronan is also a great Writer... this man is relevant and forward looking.
Very informative, and interesting. Thank You!
More Ronan Farrow.
WOW!
We are *^*^ed !!
aBSOLUTELY TRUE THESE SPY COMPANIES SHOULD BE REGULATED
Ronan is a genius, and also beautiful. I enjoy his investigations.
Very interesting!
Ronan - you were born different too. I bet you get me completely. Get my madness and method.
Maybe the best thing for the whole world would be for everyone to ditch there cell phones they are destroying people.
Maybe it would help if people didn’t carry them around 24/7. It seems people feel they have to be on them all the time, walking down the street, driving, shopping in a store, it’s ridiculous.
I think if you want to have a private conversation, no one has a cell phone
Nonsense unless someone wants to get sued for invasion of privacy or criminal blackmail.
And what about speaker homes, smart TVs, EVs, smart refrigerators, smart thermostats and other smart devices?
Even modern keyboards with highlight keys seem so unsafe when it comes to privacy.
There are way too many gadgets connected to the Internet.