3 Things Proving the Governing Body Doesn't Care About Jehovah's Witnesses
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2023
- Does Jesus guys on earth even care about 8 million+ Jehovah's Witnesses? How about the rest of mankind? We take a look at three things that caused this former elder to reach the conclusion that they don't. Children, martyrdom... and 'new light'...
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My daughter once said...."if you are a divorced single mom, fat and poor forget having friends in the Truth ever". It broke my heart. She struggled trying to be a witness all her life.
It breaks my heart to read this because I know MANY who have felt this way :(
I found out how much they care about us. When I began living in Honduras and needed help with an immigration process, the branch (which existed here then) wouldn't help me. They said, We help our missionaries, you're on your own. So I was like gee, thanks guys. I was there of my own accord, gave up a career in Amurica, went against everyone who thought I was crazy, all to further "Jehovah's interests", and consequently I was removed as an MS/acting elder because I didn't have legal residence fast enough. Thanks guys, that just widened the crack in my foundation. I kept waiting for JAH to move his hand on behalf of his faithful servant so that I could serve him fully, never happened.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
Unreal. They sure sound like Jesus, right? LOL. It's nothing more than a 'business'....the heartfelt depth of spirituality is missing and always has been....but to remove you for not having residency????? Unreal!! Didn't holy spirit choose you?? LOL
@@survivingparadisepodcast but you ignore my simple question 🤣, Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500it’s a Satanic cult as you know. We never preached Jesus and in the 70’s JWs gave far more attention to Satan and demons than Jesus.
@@vusimngomezulu2500because ALL that EVERYONE does, is preach about JWs, right? Not about any of the other ~4000 religions or any political party or anything else, right...? It’s all a bubble
👋Hi there, Stacey! I'm 3rd Gen JW, baptized at 13, just went through the motions without giving any thought to the huge responsibility this action brings on a "Child". When I was graduating H.S., my Mom discerned that times were changing and I needed more education. She got into big trouble when, defying my Elder Dad, She supported me in going to College. Once there, I went through the rebellion phase and also began using critical thinking with the JW religion. When I took a Sociology course on the world religions, it was sooo eye-opening that NEVER did I see the Org the same... The JWs were nothing more than just one of the thousands of religious Faiths. As time passed, I just continued going through the motions up until today. These days, my much beloved Hubby has left the Eldership and has followed a bit on my PIMO ways... We're really having a nice time, traveling and enjoying life more. With so many immediate relatives still hook-line-and-sinker inside the WTBTS, We really cannot leave, but in doing as little as possible, life's more enjoyable lately.
I really appreciate you. Thanks. ❤
Amazing!! This makes me so happy! And a huge shoutout to your mother!! I always love hearing from those that have 'figured it out' and are enjoying life.....thank you for being here!!!
My mom became a single parent at 15. The elders conspired to give me to my paternal JW grandparents. A worldly aunt prevented it.
Mom is now 80 & is still trying to gain JW’s favor.
She’s been invited to baby showers, wedding receptions, restaurant meals where she’d inevitably brought gifts or paid for far more than her share. Even letter writing was a place she was invited to drop off a roll of stamps, but not to stay.
Soft shunned her entire life. To this day she cries about how much she wanted to be friends.
She’s waiting for Jehovah’s new system to magically correct the situation.
My mom loves Jehovah & believes he cares 🤷♀️💔
Even if she’s right, her life has been wasted trying to make him love her or at least to care about her 😭
This is extremely heartbreaking 💔. I am so sorry that this CULT has caused so much pain and false hope. Watchtower will pay for what they have done.
Its hard to hit the thumbs up button on this. It is a truly sad glimpse into how too many live as a JW.
That's very sad. 😥
This absolutely broke me heart! I'm SO SORRY!!!! Horrible how your mom has been treated!!! I hope that you're okay and huge ((HUGS)) to your family!!
That is so hard to hear, as Ive seen so many go thru that same treatment, including myself, particularly the last 13 yrs of my 42 yrs in. There is nothing you can do to please them & they will never appreciate a single thing about many of their members. Perversely, those very ones who are not accepted are usually the truly good, decent people! They openly insult you to your face while you are giving or serving. Disgusting behavior.
I wanted to be accepted in the group and it worked for quite some time but then as I got older I didn't feel the love that I used to feel when I was younger.
I began to travel and experience such amazing worldly people and friendships no longer available in the organisation so I'm only human and I'm more attracted to honest friendly loving people not judgemental Jehovah's Witnesses so I left
Good for you. The so-called loving organization is all conditional. JWS are the most fake, superficial, and phony acting people there are. It's very disgusting. Watchtower has conditioned their members to be self-righteous, non loving narcissistic arrogant inhumane robots. Most JWS act JUST LIKE THEIR LEADERSHIP.
I had the same experience Galaxie!!
My brother came to the door as a JW “Minister” and scared the holy heck out of me about the end of the world coming in 1975. So my husband and I got in. My heart loved my brother and I think I was trying to have my big Bro back in my life but I always felt empty inside the cult. The No Blood doctrine was horrible. The Malawi atrocities was all they talked about, it was awful waiting for 1975 and being so frightened yet trying to feel safe. It was a disaster. I was shunned after disfellowshipping. Nothing about it was peaceful
I'm so sorry you went through that. It was so many years ago and a unique time period....and it left so many scars on people
@@survivingparadisepodcast thank you for validation.
Spot on, Stacy. Judging from what I have heard and read about the Watchtower Society's Governing Body, they do not care anything about the common Jehovah's Witnesses, but, rather, they care more about money and power. They preach but do not practice what they preach, making them rank hypocrites. Thank you for your valid points.
Thanks George....I agree! It's clearly an operation that focuses on their business interests. People and humanity have been left behind!
After being out of the organisation for 40 years, left age 30. You’re CZcams always makes me laugh but also cry.
Thank you for your words.
Thank you Paula,,, truthfully, it has the same affect on me! It's a rollercoaster of pain and healing!
Being borne in, it was difficult to see through the smoke screen until it was too late. By the time I realized the BS factor, I had already been "home schooled" so I could be a good poineer and make mom and dad proud. College? Haha! Right... I will admit, as an adult, I tried to go back for a social outlet for my disabled wife in about 2015. What a rude awakening. Going back as a 40 something and not having rose colored glasses, it took about 3 years to leave permanently. Once mom passed in 2020, I was truely out and completely washed my hands, guilt free. Kim and Mikey were a huge help to make me see through the smoke screen and justify my questions I had been having since the late 70s/early 80s.
I was like you Phil: born in....indoctrinated until decades had passed :( I'm so glad you're out and I hope you and your wife are doing well! I'm so sorry about your mom. Our mothers have a tough go of it inside the 'org'.....it get's my anger going
My sister in law is JW all I see is how the organization instills fear and hatred towards their own members and specifically outsiders, of course she fakes it towards me but I see through it, I pray for her soul, without the holy sprit and the Jesus Christ almighty she’s and rest are lost, not saved at all, changing Gods word and denying the trinity is a sin that is unpardonable
It's a highly toxic and people are forced to treat family poorly or shun them :( So sorry!@@marciaweisman7632
Yes. When you said, “I lost my naïveté and I’d like to have it back...” So true in the beginning. We were innocent and real zealots because we wanted to believe and be saved at the end of the wicked system of things. Then it got so serious and deaths occurred due to No Blood policies and women were having nervous breakdowns and people were selling homes and children were being abused....the innocence turned into a frightening knowledge and our freedoms were taken.
46:24 "instead of eulogising them..." Jesus wept! They're not allowed to celebrate their birthdays their whole life AND they don't even get a eulogy when they die.
GREAT point!
VERY good point!~
Spot on Stacy. Watchtower primary concern is their financial assets. Children are of no consequence because they don't generate tax-free revenue. At least not yet. Wouldn't put it past the org. to overlook child labor laws and start using 10 year olds to hustle nickels and dimes on the street. Oh, wait they've been doing that for years. Under the guise of field service.
Did you hear that now they have some new, stupid form just for kids to "make a commitment to Jehovah" as to how many HOURS they can commit to preaching??? It's SICK! The form has a blank spot for the child to write his/her name and as in (not the exact wording):
"I, ___(child's name)____ commit to ____ hours per month to preaching for Jehovah." - Isn't that OUTRAGEOUS!!??? THESE ARE CHILDREN!! Their PRIORITY should be SCHOOL & PLAY! NOT how many hours per month they can shill for a CULT CORPORATION!! GROSS.
You nailed it....well summarized. It's beyond description....and is shocking that so many JWs ignore it all
I was around 11-12 years old when I started studying with JWs. I was very close to my mom, and joined her when she started studying. The big hook for me, however, was the book study because we were working on The Revelation book. In fact, our first meeting with the congregation coincided with the beginning of that book study. The reason this was so appealing for me was all the imagery, fantastic creatures. I mean, I've always been a pretty geeky guy, so dragons, multiheaded beasts, and horsemen, that was right up my alley! The other thing that worked for me was all the positive reinforcement I got from answering the questions during meetings (teacher's pet complex, I guess). Oh, and "free" books (donate what you can, or what you think it's worth...)
What pulled me out was realizing I was gay while I was away at university and being exposed to a much wider variety of perspectives. And then looking at the doctrines more closely, especially the stuff related to science vs creationism.
Many of us were hooked by the same things! Those big, colorful books make a huge impact on little kids. The Revelation Book (past episode) grabbed a lot of people and scared many more!
My favorite new light is the overlapping generation. That, and the fact that 1914 was based off of pyramid measurements sealed the deal for me. It stopped the "What if they're right?" thought processes.
Two very good reasons to start worrying that they may be right!
What drew me to the organization. I always wanted to learn the Bible and it appeared that JWs really knew the Bible. I studied the "Truth" book in 1977 and became convinced it was the truth. I was taken in by the meaning it gave me in life and fell for the world-wide unity aspect and of course, the love-bombing is really effective in bringing one into this religion. Over the years, there were many times where I felt all alone. Something was wrong and you hit on some of the many things I noticed were and are wrong. You - my friend - are so easy to listen to. You speak form the heart, are authentic and really have something to offer to both ex-JWs and anyone who may be thinking of joining this religion (aka cult). Keep up the awesome work! btw: My first real doubt occurred in Nov 1995, when the Watchtower study article got rid of the 1914 generation teaching. I thought about all those homes that I spoke confidently about the 1914 generation. Then it hit me. Why should I feel the need to defend a doctrine that I had nothing to do with creating? It was the fault of the leaders, and no one appeared ready to apologize. Similar to this, when I got wind of the CSA problems after that 2002 Dateline expose about JWs and their pedophile paradise, I scoured the internet and found www.silentlambs.org I recalled bringing articles to people's homes about the CSA problem in the Catholic church. Then I said to myself, how could they send me to a stranger's homes with these articles, when they knew they had a huge (worldwide) problem themselves. You don't throw rocks when you live in a glass house. I could go on about this, but needless to say, it opened my eyes wide and Geoffrey Jackson's lies while under oath was the icing on the cake!
I was facing induction into Vietnam war. As a young father of 2, I valued life a lot more than a single young man that was drafted. Besides I had a spiritual side, and struggled with killing another human being. My wife's cousins being a Native American was in heavy action, came home with a necklace of ears he cut off dead Vietnamese Soldiers he killed in action. He was truly psychologicaly disturbed and I did not want to become that kind of a human being. Jehovah's Witnesses gave me or supported my heartfelt views as they were being formed that would become me. Plus we would visit 5 brothers in a federal low security prison nearby to encourage them. Even Joan Baez came through town protesting her Husbands imprisonment in that prison. Which gave me courage to stand up against the Vietnamese War. It was a very politically charged time in America. Not to mention friends I went to High School with were coming home in a box, and I hardly knew a family that did not have a son in Vietnam!😢
Wow, I'm so sorry for what you've been through!! That was a critical time to reach someone like you....many were looking for answers and JWs had a message of paradise. My mother is of your generation and it's truly unique. So glad you're here!
When they loose their properties in Russia they said that people are more important as buildings !
And yet do the exact opposite.....isn't it something?
I really like this episode, because, instead of reciting facts about the immoral wrongdoings of leadership and misinterpretations of the original text, it touches on the emotional reason why so many stay in the org, that they crave the community feeling. And I wanted to say I appreciate the multiple platforms - sometimes I enjoy binging older episodes on Spotify, but I also like the CZcams uploads because I can interact in a more direct way. Keep doing your important work.
As I was raised in this org, I just wanted to be a good person and listen to my parents, but I also thought the group understood me because they said we were all "not of this world". But that was probably just my neurodivergent personality trying to find a sympathetic environment when everything else was just harder for me than my siblings, and eventually I realized the reality that they are just like every other crowd control scheme, especially when it came to controlling women. I still feel like I'm from a different planet, but I now have a better idea why, thanks to science and research. The truth is out there, but not with the JW Org.
(((HUGE HUGS))) to you!!!! Thank you for being here and I am so broken hearted at the trail of broken hearts left in the wake of this cult. GOOD people who are just seeking love, care and community! Please be kind to yourself and know that you're not alone!
The organisation from the 9 Guys belongs to the Kids .. Very strong Point !
Thank you.....so many points are ignored!
Knowing that it's a matter of time and opportunity my permanently leaving the WTBTS, I do as very little as possible and have become intentionally as less visible as possible; not meeting or getting to know anyone that I have not known from waaay back, hardly ever commenting at meetings, most meetings in Zoom with camera off. I've even noticed some are softly shunning me, and that's welcomed, actually, as it gets me used to what's inevitably coming hopefully soon... Thanks for your sensical breakdowns of WTBTS shenanigans, really appreciate it.❤👍👍👍
Good luck with your fade/departure
Be good to yourself and go slow. So glad you're here....there is life outside that cult......good people just trying to live life!!
Another great episode, I loved your analogies, they were spot on.
Thank you very much!
For me was the pure language that later I learned the governing body created
all man made, truth
all man made, truth
Listeng to this at 5 am is making me , shake my head , cry in disbelief . How did i not see this before . Thanks soooo much for putting this together
Be kind to yourself. We all fell victim to the insanity, especially if we were born into it all.... happiness matters!
I was raised in it , but not born in, I do remember Christmases we celebrated. For me it was talking to a sister that was in a concentration camp and being persecuted during NaziRegime. She was so happy to show her loyalty to Jehovah and endure what she endured with grace and thankfulness, assured me it was “the truth”. (Grew up in Germany)
Interesting that you listen to apostates while being in the truth ! Or is that sarcasm….!
@@user-TheTruth I’m pimo, still have family members in it, but some are like me.
@@beautyRest1 I understand your situation, I faded and fortunately still have my family that are deep into the cult . I personally couldn’t continue to attend meetings after I woke up to the truth about this organization. I wish you well and hope you can eventually leave with your head on straight !
All of those precious lives imprisoned, tortured ... lost 😢 for what? You know? 😣
I knew someone like that too....she was in her 90's last time I spoke to her, she was 'anointed'.....it's heartbreaking to me
Thank you for the amazing informations.
thank you for being here
This was great Stacey,,,, next time a Jehovah witness knocks on my door I will use this terminology you brought up about Jesus scolding the apostles for neglecting the children and how the elders sweep under the rug the pedophile matters among others,,, great podcast again Stacey.
The GB love the flock, but only if they obey and can keep up with their celestial chariot...even if it doesn't make sense from a human standpoint...
Only 10mins in and can't help myself commenting...
Love the comments!!!!
Another great one! And good you point out chapter 20 again of the elder’s manual and the contrast with how CSA is being handled. Just today someone replied I was lying when I shared printscreens (!!!) of pages from mostly chapter 14 (2019 edition) where the instructions are for handling CSA. When I replied and shared the video of Geoffrey Jackson in the Australian court, he asked if I got it from their JW website and that I needed to be careful since nowadays with AI people can create anything they want. Some people (or ”a lot of JWs) choose to stay blind and no amount of proof will wake them up, or at least not now... I will wait and see if the subconscience will start helping the poor guy.
Make sure you let that person know that the ARC court case was in 2015 - BEFORE deep-fake AI clones were even well known & VERY FEW extremely skilled people even TODAY can make those replicas so that they are believable! The amount of TIME & EFFORT it would take to get every facial expression & mouth movement to match a "fake script" would be unbelievably difficult & again, only a very skilled person could do so even today. Back then? It was almost unheard of altogether!
Secondly, they can go to the ARC site themselves and download the whole TRANSCRIPT! ... Or do they believe that the Australian government would care THAT MUCH about Geoffrey Jackson & Watchtower to go out of their way to FAKE a few HUNDRED PAGES of typed testimony word-for-word JUST to "trick" a JW! LMAO 🤣 Obsurd!! If they believe that to be true, just sit back and LAUGH at that point! ~ My best to you!
Thank you Naomi! WOW, I knew it was coming!! They will soon claim everything shared is due to AI....that it's false!!! It's a shocking proof of the cognitive dissonance they all live under; it's beyond sad!
@@survivingparadisepodcastI was close to feeling flabbergasted when I read it, but that quickly changed into: why would I be surprised...?
If people choose (how much of it is choice when being indoctrinated?) to not listen to all signals, as an adult it’s their responsibility. As long as they think they are happy... Ignorance truely is a bliss
Yes, most choose a path of ignorance or convenience, it's too hard to upset their life @@naomiwillemsen9836
Another fantastic video to enjoy with my coffee good morning from England thank you for your kindness and content :) x
Thank you caroline, enjoy the coffee! What do you like in your mug??
@@survivingparadisepodcast thank you. I usually have a french roast black no sugar :) or sometimes I'll have a cup of tea and indulge in my Britishness Haha. Honestly thank you for your content and your kind approach. Hope you are having a good day x :)
Perfect, I love my dark roast as well!@@carolinesimpson3819
@@survivingparadisepodcast that's good :) how long were you an elder for if you don't mind me asking? :)
Hi! Roughly 11 years@@carolinesimpson3819
Once again, you hit it out of the park! THANK YOU for all the research and hard work you put into these videos. You really have the GB pegged for exactly who they are & not who they pretend to be!! I really appreciate you! 🙏
I appreciate that you come back every single week with a fresh post and every time, you blow my mind. I had NO IDEA they made such a strong argument FOR taking blood transfusion! To go as far to say that the Bible is SILENT on that subject& then, to say that MAN makes those rules & to top it off by comparing anyone who would hold off taking blood to the PHARASEES!! WOW WOW WOW!! UNBELIEVABLE. The 180° turn they did on that one is just ... wow!
The number of lives LOST on that alone is staggering. Then, add in all the lives lost from when organ transplants weren't allowed, all the lives lost in wars & conflicts where JWs "took a stand for "the truth"" & finally, all shunning suicides & suicides over internal conflict about one's sexuality or just not feeling you can measure up to "Jehovah's (WITCHTOWER's) standards!" The Governing Body has RIVERS OF BLOODGUILT on their hands!!!
Thank you so much!!! I appreciate the kind words and appreciate those that have come before me that have done such incredible research as well. It's stunning...and most JWs never study their religion, so they have NO IDEA
Great episode
thank you so much!
Truthfully? My parents forced me to remain in the cult....I never truly bought into it. I left at 18
Good for you 👍
Same
I couldn't be HAPPIER to know that....you got out early!
@@survivingparadisepodcast 36 years free and clear of the tower
Stacy being awesome and funny all in one the best podcaster
You're too kind, but thank you!!
@@survivingparadisepodcast your welcome
When I decided to leave & told a co-worker I summed it up in one sentence: “I’ve been friendless for years.”
That is terrible. I hope you've left and now have lots of friends!!! Real friends!!
@@survivingparadisepodcast I ❤️ your videos. Timely relevant interesting and more. Thanks‼️
Wow! The Voice! The voice of Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom you know what I am referring. Thank you so much for that as the organization says food at the proper time and I am so grateful for Ray Franz. Listening to those two books change my life. I have been out since 2016 and I can't thank you enough. This video was great as well keep up the good work we really need experience exjw's such as yourself for these great gems❤
Thank you Lisa and SO glad you're out!!! Ray is a HERO!!!! I almost got to meet him and he passed away. Thank you so much for being here and glad you're FREE!!!
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@survivingparadisepodcast 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
imagine if you saw an apparition that looked like Stephen Lett in that picture, would you not be terrified?
Great visual!
LOL, he is already scary!
@@survivingparadisepodcast Unbelievably creepy, I wonder what the motive behind the exaggeration is? At least he is restricted by the human realm though.
LOL, agree!@@PL-tj5sd
🌟👏👏❤️Thank you for being a Whole Human Being with access to Every Tick on your Internal Dial i.e. Emotions, Heart, Soul & courageous enough to share with all of us 🌟👏👏👏🌹☯️
You're too kind, but I love that!!! I never considered that type of definition, very cool Cindy, thank you!!
Stacy, you brought up plenty of good points concerning the Governing Body. They care about their own financial interests. They want their Capital Preservation! I learned plenty of things on this podcast. You talk better than Rush Limbaugh, Bob Grant , Howard Stern, Don Imus, and the rest of those guys. I look forward to the next podcast 😊
You have an excellent way of putting the teachings in such a clear and understanding way. It truly shows how clouded we were as witnesses!
Thank you so much!!! :)
A true Christian only has loyalty to one person , JESUS CHRIST , The GOOD SHEPHERD .
If you truly Love your TRUE SHEPHERD you will keep all His Commandments.
It really is that simple . He will keep you until you reach your destination.
We must obey GOD ( JESUS )
Rather than men . ( ACTS 5 .29 ).
Respect for Christians.correct, JWs do not follow that
@@survivingparadisepodcast
And JESUS said ,
Who do people say that I AM ?
Then said JESUS
Who do YOU say that I AM ??
Then PETER said ,
YOU are THE ANOINTED ONE !!
THE SON. OF THE LIVING GOD !!
@@John-fi5ik lol calm down. Why are you here? Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe that Jesus is God. Are you confused? 🤣
I remember when i merrier back in 1982, for that time the changes in policy for the use of contraceptives. I remember there were a lot of marriages at the time in the congregation (like 7 couples) and the advises of older JWs telling us not to have babies because Armageddon was around the corner.
The talks of what is allowed and what prohibited by gb done on the bedroom. At the time we believed it was part of Jehovah will (ignorant).
some of these couples ended divorced because of these talks and literature. We ended having babies that today have given us grandkids!!!
And I remember in 1990 I had my 3rd child and I was praying to Jehovah not to change the policy so I can operate and have no more. Because the policy went back and forth!!
Thank you for you talk! Every sentence you say is do true! They don’t care about children and less protect them.
Glad my children ran away of this cult!!😮
All true!!! See this episode, as well as Part II! czcams.com/video/UUrH4eWfb_4/video.htmlsi=QvecfyPWkYf48Syr
Great as usual sir.... please keep up the great work you are doing.
Thanks Deo!
It’s a group of people that are afraid to die. That’s what it is
So scared of everything I can’t live like that anymore
Thank you so much for another great one!!!
Thank you Beauty!!
Omg you've made some points I've never even thought of before!!! 😮😮😮😮 they've never been held accountable for any of their old teachings even for people who've died for those former beliefs 🤯🤯🤯😡
Thanks Erin and love your photography! NEVER.....they can say what they want, claim new light.....and people die. It's a disgrace and rarely has anyone discussed this
@@survivingparadisepodcast it's infuriating 😫😫😫
And thank you so much!!
LOL "Life-saving work", standing next to a cart, pointing at a JWBORG sign when someone asks a question! 😂😂😂
It's embarrassing to watch
Stacy let me share with you how i realized they don't care about none of us , a brother in our congregation had some mental problems , he was roaming around acting up and doing all sort of things unspeakable, he started stalking one of my friends and she was very concerned . She lured him to the elders and they told her that unless he comes and ask for help from them personally, they can't do anything about it because it was his personal issues and that if hes is bothering her that much , she should turn him over to the police , my friend decided that she was never going to do that to her friend , much less her fellow black brother . She eventually lured him to the hospital where he was able to get treatment and is doing very fine now
The same week they called me to talk about how my grooming was not giving a good witness and that it will prevent people from listening to the message , i told them, it was my personal problem and if people won't listen thats not my problem, they were shocked when i asked them how can a jw roaming around acting up less damaging to their brand than what i wear
Wow - good for you! You know... it always bothered me how they really pressured the black JWs to look "whiter", like I personally love a big, beautiful black afro! I've always loved that look on a lady. But they just suck the natural beauty & culture out of literally EVERY culture! It's so gross to me. I knew several black sisters who would straighten their hair pin-straight just to conform to the conventional "white" look. And I never saw anyone in natural braids or anything. Only young children sometimes would wear braids & beads. It's just sad to me. Like, if that's the PERSON'S choice, then OK, but when you see every single woman and they're ALL doing that? Nah, that's behavior & grooming conditioning!! 💯 I wish you well.
@icufool exactly my observations too , I have always been a proud African and I always asked our elders why they couldn't wear African prints on the platform and they always said " well we have to give a good witness and people may not be drawn to the massage if they are not familiar with the culture " it never made sense to me how we all had to look like cooperate Americans, but now I fully understand 😉
About the hair , I always rocked my Afro and the sisters always said to straighten it because it looked much better , I never listened.
@@nanaamapay9632 You were RIGHT! It doesn't make any sense at all!! I mean, doesn't "Jehovah draw the person to the message???" I don't think it has anything to do with what someone is wearing! So stupid. And too bad I wasn't in your congregation when I was in cuz I'd be encouraging you to rock that gorgeous natural hair!!! Xoxo 💕 🫂
This is so upsetting!!!! UNREAL!!! Jesus is healing people and these guys can't help someone with mental illness! HUGE subject to cover at some point....then they want to discussing grooming with you????? I'm so sorry.....TERRIBLE
@survivingparadisepodcast yes Stacy please cover mental health amongst jw it is hugely discouraged taking care of your mental health, just pray and read your bible, be regular at meeting is all I ever heard .
In other words they be fakin da funk...!
….and then turned FUNKY!
yep! :)
Bravo!!!!!
Love this.
I wish they all could hear it.
Thank you so much!
My favorite book that I will never throw away is "Is there a God? Who cares about you?!" 😅
WOW, I remember when that one was released!!
I appreciate the Gen X representation! Growing up a JW in the 80s was a whole different animal compared to today. Pros and cons for sure.
YES!!!!!!! So true Bess.....my entire foundation for this thing: our 'generation' had vastly different experiences than young people in JWs today.....I'm planning an episode on this.... let's have a warm Shasta and cheese danish together ;)
Why the guv nobody have no respect for life.. they’re Freemasons & human sacrifice is essential to Yahweh & Jah, the Old Testament gods that have no thing to do with Christ. That’s why.
Not far removed from the insanity of past centuries!
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Great video! Nice to find your channel
Thanks for being here Kevin!
Hello! Born in. I agree, a sense of community. Or perhaps, believing we had something no one else had. How quickly that community ends when you are having problems.
Hi, glad you're here! YES....that was literally the glue that kept us there
Was thinking the whole time of “be careful that you do not stumble your brother”. And how it would be better to tie an anchor around their neck and drown themselves than to stumble the least of them. And yet the gb does nothing to reach out to those who left based on doctrines they now admit were wrong or misguided
Fantastic points......they have no shame
All the money they collected from members thinking the end was coming in 1975 , these people donated life savings, sold their homes. Oops the end didn’t come. Did they give the money back or do anything for them? I dare anyone to come forward and give a testimonial saying that they were made whole again. 😮
Excellent presentation… what an eye opener thanks.. )
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I was seriously depressed when they came to my door. I can honestly say the org kept me alive. I felt sorry/compassion?? For them because everyone hated them. Wanted to see if hatred was justified. I guess the scripture about how God knows when a sparrow has fallen, how much more valuable you are, was soothing. Loved the passage at Isaiah 33? About how he would search for his wounded sheep and judge the fatted from the lean, made me feel as if he was personally involved. A video I heard, stripping ideology or a belief system from the practice, that prayer is helpful. People have a need or a sense of comfort, feeling that someone more powerful could listen and be aware of your feelings.
Hello. Noone is saying those parts of the Bible aren't beautiful. They are. There are many who left JW and have not left a belief in God! Just because someone leaves, despite what you may have been told, does not mean they are leaving their faith in the Bible & some still prefer to worship Jehovah believe it or not. You realize that it's not only JWs that worship Jehovah, right? There are actually quite a few religions that worship Jehovah as the "true god."
Secondly, I'm happy for you that you found comfort there. I used to also. But then I realized that there are many places I got the exact same feeling & I never had to worry in those place that should I even question a doctrine or a leader that I'd be singled out and ostracized for my questions!
Finally, to this day, I've only heard of maybe one or two exJWs that "hate" Jehovah's Witnesses. Most of us actually really LOVE Jehovah's Witnesses! That's our families!! I'm sorry you were told exJWs hate JWs. I've never met a worldly person who hates them either in all my 53 years! Every worldly person I knew was open accepting & loving of JWs.
It's so sad that JWs think everyone hates them & is out to get them when the exact opposite is truth and meanwhile, who is teaching people that everyone else is going to die, just so JWs can have the entire planet to themselves while everyone else gets slaughtered? 🤔 💭 Hm.... have an amazing day. I wish you well.
@@cultytalk Where I lived, when JWs came to my door, there were basically no JWs around. Five in the county. People said not to listen to them and were adamant about it. The word hate was a bit strong to use. Never heard about apostates and never heard about Jehovah’s Witnesses till that point that they knocked on my door. I have learned in the past few years that the doctrines are wrong and policies are hurtful. And that it is not the truth. The introduction to that particular video was encouraging use to express or think what attracted us or kept us going. Not the exact words he used.
It's huge....and that is how I ended up there: my mother. She needed comfort and sense of community....they play on those passages, get you, then yank the rug out
Also, in answer to your question, none of this would work if members of Jehovah’s Witnesses were not GREEDY, SELF SERVING,LAZY CREATURE WORSHIPPING OPPORTUNISTS.
My family that shuns us, along with “previous friends”, teaches us this clearly.
Regarding jw policies and local laws...only 11 states have mandatory reporting csa for religions. So much for freedom of religion.😢
Imagine not putting children first at any institution
And you can add refusing to reinstate members who do want to come back; even if it's only to see their family and dear friends again and to derive some encouragement from them ! I myself want reinstatement for those reasons only. And there have been many videos on YT about these people that appealed for reinstatement, and were told by the elders that there hasn't been enough time gone by! I don't care if I belong to an organization; as if that's the requirement for survival thru the end of this wicked system. And I certainly don't give a rat's rear end about the ignorant and selfish clowns in New York HQ who want to rule my life like the Pharisees of Jesus' day did! Particularly, it's the elders who are supposed to be loving shepherds; who search for stray sheep, who treat them with tenderness, and who lead by example that should NEVER TURN DOWN A REQUEST FOR REINSTATEMENT BY A PUBLISHER!-- 1 Peter 5: 3;......Matt. 18: 12 ,...Luke 6: 36, 37 and many other texts!
The elders worship the governing body; so what should we expect in their conduct toward the congregation? If your role model and bosses are snooty, selfish, arrogant old men who've lived off the donations of millions of people for most of their adult life; then you as an elder are going to be just like them!
I am now sending a 16 page letter to the US Branch that exposes and reproves these self-righteous a-holes using scripture after scripture! Yes I was an elder for 14 years, served at Bethel with Ray Franz and raised a JW, so I know my Bible, just like you do Stacy! Here's just a tip of the iceberg of scriptural admonition for elders and their bosses in NY:
Romans 14: 2-12.....READ IT.!............................1 Tim. 5: 21,....READ IT!............James 4: 11, 12,...READ IT!
1 Corinth. 4: 3-6....READ IT!......Acts 20: 29, 30,......READ IT! And no, ANYBODY that does not treat the "flock of God" with tenderness is an "oppresive wolf"! Not just the 2nd and 3rd century promoters of pagan teachings and a church heirarchy! Elders need to stop expelling people whose opinions on personal matters differ from theirs! Even if I or someone else had committed a serious sin mentioned in 1 Corinth. 5, if one is sorry for what he/she did, then leave it at reproof, and keep them as a member of the fold of Christ's sheep!
Keep up the good work Stacy; your broadcasts are hard hitting while at the same time spun with humor! While I don't agree with all of your beliefs; I do appreciate your waking up as I did and getting off the hypocritical JW train. 😆😉😊
Explained quite well
Hows Stephen able to make a face more creepy than that blood card?
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LOL, I keep waiting for an alien to come out of him as seen in Men in Black!
I always wondered why the GB charges 6-7 pct interest on Kingdom Hall mortgages when all the money is donated?
I was born in at the age of 2 and life was great but once I got older in the my pre teens I smelled bullshit and knew I wanted to leave and I suffered until I left at 17 and it was a hard road but I left and never looked back and then soon after my elder dad left because he smelled bullshit and then my baptized brother left and soon my mom left and life was better.
SO happy to see your entire family left!! FREEDOM!!
If they could, they would change the blood doctrine and make it a matter of a conscience decision, but they would face a wave of lawsuits and we all know they don’t need that right now.
100% beauty!! I've been saying that since I was a JW!!! That is why they loosened on some details, but can't reverse it: litigation! Fred Franz made it all up!
@beautyRest; If the Watchtower Society is afraid of changing it's no blood policy for fear of incurring a wave of lawsuits, that is just tough.for them. They should have thought about the consequences of this dangerous policy long before so many Jehovah's Witnesses were dying without needed blood transfusions. Even if they were crying about bankruptcy due to those lawsuits, I will not shed a tear for that sorry organization. They got themselves into this mess, so now let them deal with it. That is all I can say for them.
I couldn't agree more George. To think they never contemplated the fallout from a complete fabricated, death dealing teaching, is staggering@@georgebrown8312
My instant gratification? Approval. "Atta girl!" Doing the "right thing." That's what it was for me. And the flip side of it---if I DON'T do this, my mom will be disappointed, God will be sad. All things gloomy and bad.
In my congregation there never was a community, at least not for me---the spiritual mongrel child of a non-believer and a spiritually weak mother. I could never rely on the other witnesses for ANYTHING. Ever. So for me, there was no pull of the community. I had FAR more reliable friends in the world---in school, at work, my non-believing family. Within the congregation, it was just long-distance love, at best. It boggles my mind to hear that some JW's went to other congregations, and that "instant friends" thing actually happened, like when going abroad or something. I never experienced love in my congregation, so I wouldn't have expected it elsewhere either.
Great content, however the GB never says sorry
New & Improved! New Light! 😂
I was young insecure teen love-bombed by caring families.
Married had 2 children felt blessed and protected...until...😢
That story is too long and tragic.
very similar to my mother's story
Is it freakin’ midnight yet or what? (as I see it’s only 10:20 pm still 😂😂).
I have been associated with the JWs since childhood. I left the religion because especially after baptism I felt unloved and unwanted. Jehovah's Witnesses are fair weathered friends. Those people never called, visited nothing! So I left
Love is the identifying mark of true Christianity. I didn't find it here! I don't think they care!
I agree with you
They are hypocrites and scammers!
Fanatics Hypocrites Bullies shady financial dealing taking liberties they took with "their" Bible
Governing "Pipchicks" lol😂
All prisons have a watchtower.
About blood transfusion its not just for the regular members even Governing Body member is subject to that. They suffers too if their parents/relatives or even them selves has to deny blood. Just saying brother
Correct. Any and all JWs are subject to their doctrine on blood. For more fascinating changes by the GB, check out the evolution of their teachings on vaccines...and why they suddenly started taking them ;)
All I wanted most was to know Jehovah really loved me and wouldn't kill me
SAME!!!! I wanted a kind father
HOLY SHI....... UNBELIEVABLE EVIL
I completely agree!
Oh, how the Watchtower loves to play the Jehovah’s Witnesses!
"All will know that you are my disciples by the love you show one another". Shame Jesus's words are not practiced by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Their actions prove they don't care about children, they allow CSA to be practiced on a rampant scale, paedos protected by the 2 witness rule, and these predators given carte blanche because they're not reported to the police. Yet if a Kingdom Hall is broken into the secret elders manual says report the crime immediately to the police. Property is more important than safeguarding the kids, which says all anyone needs to know about this corrupt organisation.
YES!!!
What's your view about great tribulations? Will it come
I believe Revelation was mostly a political book regarding the Romans, etc. What is referred to there as the great tribulation happened in my opinion and certainly doesn't agree with the Governing Body of JWs
Time stamps please
I need to master that ;) .....I'll try to give that a shot!
I had different reasons for staying in at different times, once it was friends that died. Later it was to have a chance with that cute girl a couple rows up.
I can relate to both!
It’s a cliche, gossip mill, social club just like any other religion and I was born in it.
Truth!
I left because they’re wrong about evolution and science in general,but csa is a whole other level of wrong 🤬
Whoa on that 1945 jw quote re blood.😮
Mind-blowing isn't it??
New light = "NEW LIE"
I am fading for about in covid but believe they won't leave me and I will not go to the meetings and sat their b S my concise will not allow me my husband died although iam not going to meetings they came to see me to give me encouragement but they also thought I would ask them to do the funeral but I didn't I rent a church so that people who knew my husband could speak about him his eulogy was well the funeral was about him and not watchtower my husband was not a witness so I suppose that makes it a little easier for me I learn the so called truth when I was 19 years old so I was grown up in religion the songs that they use I knew them so I sung them out loud through tears for my beloved husband the people were comforting his daughter could pay a floral tribute to her father my daughter was rape in there report it nothing happened happened I myself as a married woman was sexually assaulted by an elder I ran so he did not get to rape me my husband died without that knowledge and what's more I have to go to that meetings and sat there listening to that same so called elder gave his glorious talk I will not go back iam not an atheist I prayed a lot but iam done very good vedio my bro
I am so sorry to read this miss rob!!!! There is no excuse for anyone to be treated this way!! I wish this was rare, but it's common in many countries. I'm so sorry!!
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Thank you!
New Light is just more proof that it’s not the actual teachings that matter, it’s only unquestioning obedience to the organization that matters 🤮
Correct...it's all about THEM
Hi friend...
I hope you haven't confused the god created by Watchtower for the Godhead found in scripture.
Very different characters in many ways!
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I'm glad you know the difference....thank you.
Keep up your work, not easy I know.
The quality is very good.
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Unfortunately the host was never taught that JESUS is THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA.
This is the fatal mistake of the WT.
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Yes, they deny the diety of Christ.
Question for JWs..... when has Jesus ever refer to babies as little enemies of god?...
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Not gonna lie, I didnt even KNOW the door to Heaven had "reopened" or that it was ever closed really until i was, like, 12. The religion is so lore heavy & bland that i couldn't memorize or keep up with it all 😅. And I was still the kid they made an audio servant. Jehovah’s hand truly at work i suppose 😂
He knew the 'force was strong with this one' LOL!!! None of us did, I had zero clue as a kid....it's as you get older you realize....'what is this???' Good to see you Darth!
The DOOR to Heaven is never closed
The DOOR to HEAVEN is JESUS ,
The ANOINTED SON OF GOD !!
Hearing a bit of dialogue about their printed or voiced opinion about apostates as mentally disease, liars, and seeking to mislead JWs from “the truth” or Jehovah, is way off base, very controlling, and fear-mongering.
They'll never tell the TRUTH! - That in reality, we exJWs LOVE JWs!! They're our family members and we'd still be their friends too! But it is their hatred of us that keeps the distance between us. Not the other way around!
@@cultytalk Very strange. Over the years it developed into a phobia or is strictly a means to control learning something new.
And so much like Jesus, right? The ONLY people he came here to witness to were uhhhhhh.....apostates! :)
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Will You let JESUS witness to YOU?
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JESUS is still looking for the lost.
What about David Nd Solomon they were kings.
Hi Patricia, yes they were...but not sure I'm following?
@@survivingparadisepodcast you said something about the witnesses not following kings or something like that I think.sirry if I got it wrong.
Oh, thank you Patricia, I wasn't sure what you were referencing... the problem there is that those guys were 'pre JW'....@@patriciarowland8230
@@survivingparadisepodcast isn't there a scripture that tells us to pray for those in government and obey unless it goes against God?
Yes, Romans 13:1,2 is what I think you may be remembering@@patriciarowland8230
Houston we have a overtime speaker…..ding DING DING DING ….eat a fireball
Almost 69 minutes. Hahahahaha
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