Rob Parker - Changing the NBA Draft Age Limit Was the Biggest Mistake David Stern Made

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard and Rob Parker react to the news that the NBA is in serious talks to change the NBA Age Limit back to 18.
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  • @DP-8964
    @DP-8964 Před rokem +136

    I think the NCAA needs to change their rules. If a high school player declared but not signed with an agent, not drafted, the kid should be able to play college ball.

    • @jamiethomas5849
      @jamiethomas5849 Před rokem +14

      No it should just be taken completely out of the NCAAs hands. The NBA should just expand their G League into a legitimate minor leagues and make it where everybody that plays college ball are legitimate amateurs or they went to college 100% by choice. Look at the baseball system they have 100s of rounds to their draft because they have an expansive minor leagues and a rule that says if you do go to college you have to be there 3 years

    • @prestonjones1415
      @prestonjones1415 Před rokem +8

      @@jamiethomas5849 I agree in theory. But the reason why the NBA doesn't want that is because the NCAA brand is better for marketing the players.

    • @jamiethomas5849
      @jamiethomas5849 Před rokem +4

      @@prestonjones1415 true but we live in a different age now. These players are their own marketing machines now due to social media. Look at Mikey Williams that kid has millions of followers, is already a brand endorser, and is already a multimillionaire and he hasn’t even picked a college yet

    • @562rodlbc
      @562rodlbc Před rokem

      DP good post with social media players can build or expand their own brands

    • @prestonjones1415
      @prestonjones1415 Před rokem

      @@jamiethomas5849 I agree some players are great at individual marketing. The problem is that few of these high school stars are becoming nba stars. Some of them even struggle in college. The best marketing is still a player who plays in the NCAA tournament because they can capture casual fans AND the local fan base that drafts them

  • @TheLivewire18
    @TheLivewire18 Před rokem +170

    If you’re old enough to enter a military draft, you’re old enough to enter a sports draft

    • @kingangel3252
      @kingangel3252 Před rokem +29

      Nothing else needs to be said. 💯💯💯💯💯

    • @ryanward3822
      @ryanward3822 Před rokem

      Your old enough to die for your country but not old enough to feed your family

    • @turokken
      @turokken Před rokem +9

      Counter point: Should 18 year old Reggie Bush be catching swing passes against fully-grown man Ray Lewis?
      I feel like Football and Hockey are the two exceptions I'm down with because of the violent and physical nature of the sport, especially now that these players can actually make money of these NIL deals

    • @Cahluvca
      @Cahluvca Před rokem +1

      🎯

    • @AR-zm8kd
      @AR-zm8kd Před rokem

      There’s no such thing as a military draft anymore u moron. And military is getting paid $300 every Two weeks out of boot camp , not millions. When a player is handed millions he will never get an education as a military guy is with the gi bill if the military doesn’t work for him. U are a total. MORON

  • @kungfufemafam9216
    @kungfufemafam9216 Před rokem +171

    When they talk about age and drafting and forget Kobe, it's deliberate and impossible to not think of him.

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 Před rokem +30

      You know the media don't mess wit Kobe all those acknowledgements in Jan 2020 was fake and full of crocodile tears you know well who their prop up guy is

    • @deon3133
      @deon3133 Před rokem +21

      @@SilentMovements305 they don’t have to bring up Kobe every time. U do a show and talk about kobe. But they did bring up Kobe in the first 5 minutes 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @JizzleDaMan
      @JizzleDaMan Před rokem +19

      If u listened long enough you would have heard them mention kobe

    • @doc1672
      @doc1672 Před rokem +13

      I was about to post that and I seen your comment 💯 I don't know what Chris problem is with Kobe but he's just as bad as Nick wright

    • @kobe8ph
      @kobe8ph Před rokem +9

      CONCENTRATED EFFORT BY THE MEDIA. DISGUSTING.

  • @coolbreeze4249
    @coolbreeze4249 Před rokem +39

    There needs to be a system like Europe where amateur and pros work closer together

    • @coachjon6967
      @coachjon6967 Před rokem +6

      To your point, unlike Europe we do not place a focus on fundamentals of the game. Here in America it is all about winning, and if the kids learn anything that is a bonus.

    • @Kingr1737
      @Kingr1737 Před rokem +8

      I’ve always thought if America done that it would be so cool. Imagine a Los Angeles Lakers Academy, a Golden State Warriors academy; U18, U16, would be sick.

    • @5starathlete804
      @5starathlete804 Před rokem

      @@coachjon6967 yeah thats why the soccer system work pretty good with the grassroots

    • @justcallmeal3841
      @justcallmeal3841 Před rokem +1

      we can't do it the european way

    • @coachjon6967
      @coachjon6967 Před rokem +1

      @@justcallmeal3841 Yeah, because our way is so much better which is why some of the top players in the game are not from USA.

  • @jaydell4039
    @jaydell4039 Před rokem +26

    This only works for the top players but the majority will stay in school and get a degree or go over seas because the roster spots for nba teams are limited/exclusive

    • @citi360
      @citi360 Před rokem +5

      They usually go over seas. If it was me, I'd take that free engineering degree!! But I get it tho.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Před rokem +15

    18 year olds ABSOLUTELY should have the right to enter the NBA draft!!!
    And if they don’t get drafted they should still have the option to play in college.
    You should be eligible to play college ball until you sign with a pro team!
    Rob is 100% correct on this topic!

    • @grahamjl766
      @grahamjl766 Před rokem

      College is a scam for pro prospects. I'm so happy the g league is available and scouts are looking more internationally.

    • @mobrocket
      @mobrocket Před rokem +1

      You don't get the right to a job.
      You can get the opportunity

  • @jtayl41
    @jtayl41 Před rokem +183

    It’s insane to me how the media really tries to make people forget Kobe!

  • @tonestones6412
    @tonestones6412 Před rokem +52

    The disrespect continues with Kobe man they don’t consider him great I can tell . Cuz wen I think high school players i automatically think Kobe and other’s mentioned

    • @samsimpson565
      @samsimpson565 Před rokem +9

      Moses Malone usually gets more disrespect.

    • @widsonsabourin9560
      @widsonsabourin9560 Před rokem +6

      He said on the bench for 2 or 3 years 🤦🏿
      If Penny never got injured he would have been better than Kobe

    • @sportsmania4871
      @sportsmania4871 Před rokem +1

      You Kobesexuals are so sensitive

    • @udeejay31
      @udeejay31 Před rokem +4

      Maybe they just forgot to mention him? Lol. But I feel you, Kobe was the first name to come to mind for me

    • @gbrown8523
      @gbrown8523 Před rokem +3

      No dude. They were mentioning guys that came outta high school and stayed out of trouble off the court.

  • @Kickz916
    @Kickz916 Před rokem +8

    How you name everybody high school player and not name Kobe.... This why I be tryna tell ppl the media really don't like Kobe that's why they never have him higher on these all time list hence I don't take their list seriously

    • @ikey1119
      @ikey1119 Před rokem +4

      The real ones know bruh. It’s fashionable to be a Kobe fan now that he’s passed. We see through it all.

    • @chrismiller755
      @chrismiller755 Před rokem

      @@ikey1119 if Jordan's the best Kobe is 2nd

    • @lancernightful
      @lancernightful Před rokem +3

      they were all faked tears the day kobe passed away. Wasn't Chris first time. Kobe is the automatic 1st guy to think of when coming straight out of HS.

  • @coachjon6967
    @coachjon6967 Před rokem +67

    For once Rob has a point where the NBA and NCAA saw these young kids as nothing but dollar signs. Making them going to College allowed the NCAA makes billions while only having to pay out thousands to these kids.

    • @tomchrisfield7348
      @tomchrisfield7348 Před rokem +2

      How does College Football factor into all this ? Can high school football players go directly to the NFL ?

    • @t-god2439
      @t-god2439 Před rokem +12

      @@tomchrisfield7348 no that is very dangerous the leap from the high school level to the NFL would be to big for most if not all

    • @BatDad-qu4fo
      @BatDad-qu4fo Před rokem +12

      @@tomchrisfield7348 I think most NFL players play at least 3 years in college. Even some of the best players played all 4 years. That jump from HS to NFL is massive. Literally grown men running over children.

    • @t-god2439
      @t-god2439 Před rokem +6

      @Evan What are you even talking about? Have you ever played football a day in your life? Football is way more physical than basketball especially today I don’t doubt that today some players could come out of high school and be fine in the nba but not the NFL. For example my high school gym teacher was Waverly Jackson I’d say an average NFL player he played 5 years. Was 6’2 +300lbs yet he was still faster at sprinting than anybody on the track team and stronger than anybody on the football team

    • @Camefromnone
      @Camefromnone Před rokem +3

      @@t-god2439 yea In basketball there’s not really any contact fr, well compared to football

  • @mdjx6838
    @mdjx6838 Před rokem +4

    Now we know why he once said KOBE wasn't even Top 10, u have to be a "Good Citizens" in his eyes to get his approval.

  • @natereynolds2255
    @natereynolds2255 Před rokem +5

    Lenny Cooke never outplayed LeBron. Bron destroyed him at ABCD camp. Lenny was never the same after that.

  • @bc3102
    @bc3102 Před rokem +8

    This rule was always a bs shady rule. Rob is absolutely right about this. There’s no other rational explanation for it.

  • @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC
    @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC Před rokem +5

    Naming HS draft picks and leave Kobe out? Absolutely impossible. I don’t even want to watch the rest of the video lol

    • @julionero6380
      @julionero6380 Před rokem

      Proabbly because he was talking of example not just on the court, kobe case of rape huet him a lot.. btw kobe is my favorite player and a top 7 of all time for me

  • @filipecosta3390
    @filipecosta3390 Před rokem +4

    Love Chris Broussard. But he mentions Jonathan Bender…. and then matter factly says Kobe 5 + min into it smh…. If Kobe hadn’t died, I think the disrespect would’ve been even worse. Glad most of the comments are giving flowers to the Mamba - RIP 🐍 🙏🏾

  • @AveryB.0
    @AveryB.0 Před rokem +9

    Every year teams pick the wrong dudes out of college. Every single year there are busts. This wont change. There will be straight from high school busts and success stories just like there are from college.

    • @damianpresha9833
      @damianpresha9833 Před rokem

      Atleast the stars can get a headstart

    • @SuperFang1
      @SuperFang1 Před rokem

      @@damianpresha9833
      Lol and franchises that mess up the draft will be set back 3-4 years lol.

  • @bryansilva6306
    @bryansilva6306 Před rokem +24

    You can be 17 years old and join the army, you should be able to declare for the nba draft at 18

    • @loganblack4885
      @loganblack4885 Před rokem +1

      18 to join the Army

    • @bryansilva6306
      @bryansilva6306 Před rokem +10

      @@loganblack4885 you can join at 17 with parent permission

    • @philliphortonRanger501
      @philliphortonRanger501 Před rokem

      @@bryansilva6306 yep this is true 17 with permission from parents or legal guardian

    • @bobbybetwirlin8442
      @bobbybetwirlin8442 Před rokem +2

      Wtf does the army have to do with the NBA? It’s way harder to be in the nba compared to the army.

    • @philliphortonRanger501
      @philliphortonRanger501 Před rokem +3

      @@bobbybetwirlin8442 naw lol 😂 you kidding Righttt?

  • @crhuynh8
    @crhuynh8 Před rokem +38

    This change is obviously for lebron wanting to play with bronny.

    • @samueljlarson
      @samueljlarson Před rokem +5

      kind of feels like it eh

    • @1stnamebr406
      @1stnamebr406 Před rokem +5

      @@samueljlarson No it's not.

    • @samueljlarson
      @samueljlarson Před rokem +1

      @@1stnamebr406 I'm sure there are other reasons as well but they always point towards money.

    • @quintonbell6836
      @quintonbell6836 Před rokem +2

      Damn sure is!!! All about making history!!! Just think it’ll probably never happen again or if it does… no father will probably be as good as James

    • @jarran..4889
      @jarran..4889 Před rokem +10

      Ya.. Bunch of billionaires concede for 1 player that's soon gonna be out of the league?
      It's happening because it makes sense, eliminates the stupid fake year of college, and gets a year start on the NBA machine resupply... It has nothing to do with Lebron James..

  • @akeemMagic01
    @akeemMagic01 Před rokem +10

    Sebastián was under 6 ft he made millions and saved his family from hell. He did just fine I'm from Brooklyn.

    • @jaydell4039
      @jaydell4039 Před rokem +2

      Now he’s in jail

    • @samirpuraj
      @samirpuraj Před rokem

      @@jaydell4039 is he really

    • @jaydell4039
      @jaydell4039 Před rokem

      @@samirpuraj sentenced to 3 years for driving with illegal weapons.

    • @Mike_jones32
      @Mike_jones32 Před rokem +1

      @@jaydell4039 so I guess that the players that went to college for a few years don't go to prison🤦🏾🤦🏾

  • @natecruz7114
    @natecruz7114 Před rokem +3

    None of these 18 yr old high school players are ready for NBA or even G-League basketball. Literally none of them in the US practice, they just rely on talents and being cool. AAU ruined high school basketball.

  • @NM-qo6cd
    @NM-qo6cd Před rokem +7

    Honestly, high school recruits should take the Mello Ball/Luka route and play a season or two overseas with grown ass men, better competition, and an actual salary. What y’all think?

    • @lawrencegraves6265
      @lawrencegraves6265 Před rokem +4

      That makes sense. Only caveat is not everyone is capable or wants to live in other countries.

    • @natecruz7114
      @natecruz7114 Před rokem +1

      Don’t ever compare Melo and Luka lmao. Melo Ball had a weird family and he literally dropped out of high school. Nobody should ever be taking that route.

  • @paulcoder4530
    @paulcoder4530 Před rokem +39

    Hey, Rob. It was the Player's Association that objected to lowering the eligibility age to 18, not David Stern. The players didn't want to have another class to compete for jobs.

    • @Oh_Richard
      @Oh_Richard Před rokem +7

      And Jermaine O’Neal called the nba the R word for not letting kids go to college. Funny how people forget

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 Před rokem +9

      PAUL CODER not true because in 2005 David stern enforced a dress code where players had to wear suits only because he was targeting Allen Iverson also in 2005 he changed the draft age know your history

    • @superdopehiphop
      @superdopehiphop Před rokem +3

      @@Oh_Richard “letting kids go to college?” How is that racist? Did I misread that comment? Jermaine my boy too as his best years in NBA by far were for my Pacers 01-05 or so (finished 3rd in NBA in 03-04!)

    • @honorfirst7506
      @honorfirst7506 Před rokem +5

      That’s Gilbert arena’s propaganda. Stern was talking about them in 1998-99. The nba was older back then, more physical. The nba is younger now, & softer than ever before in pro basketball history. So its perfect for more immature bodies.

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před rokem +1

      All ways blame white daddy

  • @stingrey1571
    @stingrey1571 Před rokem +4

    as for lenny cooke, he was hyped up by people around him. he was a great player but didnt want to put in the work.

    • @jalen-p
      @jalen-p Před rokem

      Yeah. I saw his documentary. In addition to the work ethic, he said he was 20 by the time he graduated high school though. Severely behind in every aspect. Even though he had raw talent.

  • @jamiethomas5849
    @jamiethomas5849 Před rokem +20

    Personally I believed that Zion Williamson could’ve contributed to an NBA team when he was 16 years old just purely off of his size and how athletic he was at that age

  • @LargeDude2023
    @LargeDude2023 Před rokem +2

    Perceptions about the value of a college education have changed over time due to many factors. That aside, at what age should someone be allowed to be drafted? Some might be able to make the same arguments for high schools that benefit from their athletic systems.

    • @Matt-cr4vv
      @Matt-cr4vv Před 10 měsíci

      The value of an education has merit with context but the reason it’s a joke for the NBA age rule is the idea that guys are getting educations when they’re one and done is silly. If you want to really push for the value of the dudes getting their education then the age should be older like the NFL where guys are going to be in college for a few years to where they’ll actually progress towards a degree. But when guys are going for one year and then going pro the argument about getting an education fails because they’re not getting much of any education. Now the value of the education for football guys and how seriously they take education is another argument to entertain but at least with that there’s a chance of an education before drafted versus one year.

  • @prestonjones1415
    @prestonjones1415 Před rokem +4

    I think expanding the gleague is the best way. Make it like Europe where players are pros before they are 18. The problem with opening up the draft is that gms are gonna risk the 18 year old trying to get the next LeBron. It’s bad for the league when the lottery is full of unplayable players

  • @Mektek19
    @Mektek19 Před rokem +6

    Its shameful that Kobe isn't the first or second person Broussard is mentioning.

    • @coolbreeze4249
      @coolbreeze4249 Před rokem +3

      Your comment is shameful it’s not that deep. stop forcing kobe on everything

    • @russellgeorge433
      @russellgeorge433 Před rokem +1

      @@coolbreeze4249 ye it is because kobe was better than all those guys he named lol.

    • @sportsmania4871
      @sportsmania4871 Před rokem

      @@coolbreeze4249 Kobesexuals with moot points

    • @lancernightful
      @lancernightful Před rokem +1

      @@coolbreeze4249 cause he is stating the obvious there guy. It is like you are debating goat and not mention MJ. Kobe was better than all of the guy Chris mentioned coming out of high school. That is Chris M.O. not his and other media 's first time.

  • @MRBBALLMAN10
    @MRBBALLMAN10 Před rokem +7

    When we talk about HS to Pros guys Tyson Chandler needs to be mentioned more. Wasn’t a superstar but showed flashes early. And went on to have a hell of a career. And is an OG rim running - lob threat 5 man. Which is the 2nd most coveted 5 after the floor spacing,great passing 5 man. Also was a key piece for a championship team in the Big 3 Era. Former DPOY, 3 time All Defense team, 1 time all NBA. Lasted 18 years I believe. No off court issues. A pro’s pro.

    • @mumblezz__5890
      @mumblezz__5890 Před rokem +4

      Chandler was ok.

    • @coris3436
      @coris3436 Před rokem +2

      He was a bum until Chris Paul on New Orleans. Went back to average at best when he went to the knicks, Dallas

    • @MRBBALLMAN10
      @MRBBALLMAN10 Před rokem

      @@coris3436 Bench warmers are average. He was above average. Making all league in any facet in any year of your career is big

    • @coris3436
      @coris3436 Před rokem

      @@MRBBALLMAN10 check his numbers then tell me he was above avg.

    • @MRBBALLMAN10
      @MRBBALLMAN10 Před rokem

      @@coris3436 I did and numbers don’t tell the whole story. A center averaging over a block and a half a steal for an entire career makes them an above average defender. His advanced defensive metrics are very above average as well.

  • @TheBlackEsquire
    @TheBlackEsquire Před rokem +3

    If the NBA was smart they'd require all high school players play their rookie year in the G League with a team call up option after the all-star break. You help the kid get adjusted and you up the profile of the G League

    • @jsain360
      @jsain360 Před rokem

      Some teams do send their rookies down, but some don't, this isn't a one size fits all thing

  • @tribehasspoken4038
    @tribehasspoken4038 Před rokem +8

    KOBE BRYANT , don’t ever leave him out when talking about players straight out of high school

    • @curtisdavis5322
      @curtisdavis5322 Před rokem +2

      I’m done watching these clowns , they disrespect the mamba so much

  • @agentallstar7
    @agentallstar7 Před rokem +1

    Emoni Bates would’ve been drafted in lotto out of high school. It’s hard to argue that the age requirement was bad for the sport as a whole. It made the sport on all levels better.

  • @trb250
    @trb250 Před rokem +34

    GM’s went crazy with drafting 18 year olds that led to a lot of bad players in the league

    • @originaltroll7511
      @originaltroll7511 Před rokem +15

      They drafted a lot of 18 year olds in Vietnam and Iraq that died for a bad war....at 18 its your choice to do it and up to a grown GM to draft them

    • @tradariusmaddox6827
      @tradariusmaddox6827 Před rokem +3

      @@originaltroll7511 right

    • @blaketindle4703
      @blaketindle4703 Před rokem +2

      @@originaltroll7511 💯

    • @SS-fb7zd
      @SS-fb7zd Před rokem +5

      @@originaltroll7511 Iraq was not a draft

    • @seen3804
      @seen3804 Před rokem

      @@blaketindle4703 the fact u believed that comment... man.. u are a clown

  • @RobJarrell63
    @RobJarrell63 Před rokem +13

    Also, I will say that at the time, because of the push to find the next HS basketball star nba player, the "agents" and etc were probably too predatory trying to get kids go from prep to pros

    • @DeCurtaRican
      @DeCurtaRican Před rokem +2

      There were definitely some cats who shouldn’t have jumped, like Darius Miles and Martell Webster. Other guys wasted their time in college, like Chris Webber and Shaq.

  • @RusselOrhii
    @RusselOrhii Před rokem +1

    “We heard you, it just wasn’t funny.”

  • @matthewpinson4208
    @matthewpinson4208 Před rokem +2

    Rare Rob Parker W! 🔥🔥🔥
    "I feel dirty saying that!" 😂😂😂

  • @seriousbutfunny2
    @seriousbutfunny2 Před rokem +4

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Charles Barkley spit on somebody and threw them out of a window. Not saying that he is a bad citizen. But he went to college. LMBO!

  • @nathanmilander1254
    @nathanmilander1254 Před rokem +1

    The rule was honestly put in place to save GM's and owners from themselves. They were all drafting high school kids that had no business being in the draft, but they just couldn't help themselves. The only positive that the one year college rule had was a whole bunch of dudes got exposed in college and never made the league or got drafted way later than they would out of high school. Now....that's also a negative to those kids and their families because they lost out on a pay day.

  • @Rome_22
    @Rome_22 Před rokem +1

    You guys have become my favorite show the past few months. Great chemistry! 👏🏽👍🏽👊🏽

  • @mg19cal
    @mg19cal Před rokem +3

    Dang I still wouldn't have qualified for this new rule. I graduated at age 17 and didn't turn 18 until after the season started😎

  • @Mektek19
    @Mektek19 Před rokem +3

    He named like 4 players that actually succeeded from highschool lol. Howard, Bron, McGrady, Kobe, Garnett and M. Malone. 6 in history have done well, the rest are mid to trash.

    • @jaydell4039
      @jaydell4039 Před rokem

      Basically. The majority were trash and couldn’t return to school

    • @AveryB.0
      @AveryB.0 Před rokem +3

      Lots of lottery picks from college end up trash too tho. Drafting can be tough! Lol

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 Před rokem +1

      Daryl Dawkins, Stephen Jackson, Josh Smith, Andrew Bynum, & Louis Williams. Most NBA draftees are pretty “average.” Only a few of them become great. The rarest ones become legendary.
      Drafting from HS should be rare and it seldomly happened before the NBA became desperate for the next Jordan in the late 90s.

  • @prettyridesmedia
    @prettyridesmedia Před rokem +6

    Draft picks will be become more valuable as a lot of more busts will happen and you can pick up nice players later on .

    • @cygriffin83
      @cygriffin83 Před rokem +4

      There is only two rounds in the nba draft lol

    • @prettyridesmedia
      @prettyridesmedia Před rokem

      @@cygriffin83 usually second round picks are not worth much . Yes worded wrong

  • @15jleonard
    @15jleonard Před rokem +48

    Chris really forgot about Kobe wow

    • @ZSRD23
      @ZSRD23 Před rokem +6

      The said Kobe multiple times

    • @IvanDiaz-fl6ff
      @IvanDiaz-fl6ff Před rokem +8

      Kobe wasn’t that memorable because he wasn’t that good he had to develop he wasn’t nba ready when he came in

    • @Notusingnyrealnamehere
      @Notusingnyrealnamehere Před rokem

      Dawg. Shut up.

    • @C280S
      @C280S Před rokem +6

      @@IvanDiaz-fl6ff man what?? He only didnt start cuz Eddie Jones..an all star.. played the same position

    • @taylor6466
      @taylor6466 Před rokem +5

      They didn't mention Dwight Howard

  • @313JKing
    @313JKing Před rokem +4

    So y’all bring up J Bender but not Kobe?

    • @lancernightful
      @lancernightful Před rokem +2

      that is Chris for you. He will diminish Kobe every chance he gets.

  • @ButteryAssNigga
    @ButteryAssNigga Před rokem +2

    They also stopped the rule basically once they found lebron. They overhyped him, brainwashed the public, and made him their guy. Now that hes old and washed and cant get it done without a disney bubble, now the rule is back lol.

  • @tidwellbo7861
    @tidwellbo7861 Před rokem +3

    It’s crazy they can’t go back to college. If they don’t get drafted why isn’t that an option

  • @DeCurtaRican
    @DeCurtaRican Před rokem +2

    Do people forget that Shawn Kemp was the first person to be drafted out of high school after Darryl Dawkins and Moses Malone were drafted in the late-1970s?
    Yes, Kemp was a year out of high school and had enrolled at Trinity Valley College after not enrolling at Kentucky, but he never played a single minute of organized college basketball.
    So, technically he started the high school-to-NBA pipeline and opened those floodgates, and that was in 1989. It wasn’t KG.
    It amazes me that guys like Shaq, Jason Kidd, and Chris Webber didn’t do the same. They could have made that jump.
    Kenny Anderson might have been a better NBA player if he had skipped college.

    • @elliottsmith7530
      @elliottsmith7530 Před rokem +1

      yooooooo i never knew that about kemp! that wild! makes him even more of a monster high key!

    • @vicshephard9231
      @vicshephard9231 Před rokem

      KG's success as a rookie opened the floodgates.

    • @elliottsmith7530
      @elliottsmith7530 Před rokem

      And interesting kenny Anderson take

  • @PatrickThomasBrady
    @PatrickThomasBrady Před rokem +1

    I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with rod parker to this extent, I 100% agree with everything he said and believe what he’s saying is the truth, at 18 I know I was immature and wasn’t ready to make a decision that decides my future, but I did and it was my right to, for better or for worse, this decision was only to protect people who already made it essentially and didn’t like the risk that came with drafting high school players, in any industry, younger people are brought in to replace older more experienced workers for a variety of reasons, if your the person making those decisions and it ends bad you’re fired, this is how the world works

  • @etrayde
    @etrayde Před rokem +1

    I think college should change their rule and let a kid still be eligible if the NBA don’t work out at 18 and let them go back play and be educated.

  • @1025MG
    @1025MG Před rokem +1

    I think of guys like Jabari Parker, Jahlil Okafor and Marvin Bagley III who in my opinion peaked that one year in college and ruined their chances. Other than the injuries

  • @atlien1988
    @atlien1988 Před rokem +1

    Historically, academics is tied to athletics so heavily in America due to race & class. It’s another barrier much like money is in sports such as Tennis, Ice Hockey, Golf, and Baseball.

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před rokem

      Yep but organized football cost more than all those sports..

  • @zregory
    @zregory Před rokem +2

    Basketball and football as of right now are the only two professional sports that has an age limit on when you can be drafted...... my guess is because it's so dark in there

    • @mobrocket
      @mobrocket Před rokem

      Teams were trying to draft the next Kobe and failing over and over. So it was hurting the league. That's why Stern did it.

  • @mobrocket
    @mobrocket Před rokem +1

    Chris and especially Rob are missing the point. The NBA raised the age because of so many high school players failing and then being broke with no college. Rob wants to say the GM doesn't draft him, but he is also the one who will blame the league for not helping young players.

  • @seanflaherty1225
    @seanflaherty1225 Před rokem +16

    It might be the most fair thing to lower the draft age, but it hurts the brand of the NBA. Seeing players grow up in college and develop and then go to the nba is much better than seeing some high school kid just dropped in the NBA. The greatest rivalry in NBA history (Larry and Magic), started off when they played against each other in college.

    • @itshiho
      @itshiho Před rokem +5

      Yeah but that's ages ago and good players generally only stayed 1 year anyway in recent times. Also there's too much money for these players to make nowadays for them to have to stay in college 3-4 years just to please the fans and the NCAA. If there going to pay the kids then that would be different but you know the NCAA doesn't want to do that, they'll try to suspend you for borrowing $5 to take the train to school 😂

    • @russellgeorge433
      @russellgeorge433 Před rokem +1

      @@itshiho well now the kids in high-school and college can get paid sooo ,now they are doing it so lebrons kids can play with him . The head of the players association is who ? His boy Chris Paul.

    • @samoso6979
      @samoso6979 Před rokem

      Thank you

    • @ColdHoops
      @ColdHoops Před rokem

      People will still go college.

  • @jonm2736
    @jonm2736 Před rokem +2

    Yeah this was a good talk. Great topic and the team who works with this crew must hear some good things behind the scenes! 😂

  • @jeffreyroedel9804
    @jeffreyroedel9804 Před rokem +1

    I think if a player goes straight from high school to the draft and doesn't get drafted, he should absolutely be able to enroll in college and play in college after that. That's a crazy rule.

  • @Apache32D
    @Apache32D Před rokem +3

    Can’t wait to see tons of dudes at the nba combine

  • @ZSRD23
    @ZSRD23 Před rokem +2

    This is all about revenue for college sports! You take away college sports what would be the real reason young men and women can’t go straight to the pros?

  • @ghoshrockefeller3557
    @ghoshrockefeller3557 Před rokem +4

    Damn to forget Kobe is wild!!!!!!

    • @RainWolf2286
      @RainWolf2286 Před rokem +1

      They are not forgetting, they have an order to not talk too much about him because it affect the $ and people looking may realize Kobe and some other players were better than Lebron. And that affects the business, the narrative and legacy of the league’s face.

  • @nogins
    @nogins Před rokem +1

    People mispercieve the real value of the age limit. It's knowing what your getting when you make a draft pick instead of making a mistake. All you have to do is look at the 2021 draft and Emoni Bates. Bates would have almost certainly been the number one overall pick. But having had to play against college competition, Bates's deficiencies were exposed and he fell of the draft boards. It's just one example of how the age limit benefits the NBA.

  • @zo62
    @zo62 Před rokem +2

    Players better off staying for 3 years. They take 3 years to develop. And not every player is a Kobe or Garnett. But this is more Adam silver giving his ass

  • @relaxyourmind4324
    @relaxyourmind4324 Před rokem +12

    how yall forget mamba

  • @CeeLoModernBachatero
    @CeeLoModernBachatero Před rokem +2

    Already the hate starts pouring in. As soon as the show begins...... mentions players noticeable for coming out of highschool and just so happens he fails to mention kobe. I knew it was a mistake listening to ya. Ya really think this benefits you? The New Media wouldn't do such a thing.

  • @datsapaddlin
    @datsapaddlin Před rokem +3

    Forcing players to wait a year after high school to be drafted was definitely pointless.

    • @SS-fb7zd
      @SS-fb7zd Před rokem

      Yeah but most suck for yrs

  • @RaMraM-zm1el
    @RaMraM-zm1el Před rokem

    Having kobe in the thumbnail but not mentioning him initially is the media trying to make us forget how Great Kobe Bryant was.

  • @strasbourgsteve
    @strasbourgsteve Před rokem

    World Football (soccer in the States) dont have an age limit or requirement. amazing to see talented dudes get a chance at 15, 16, 17, 18, etc

  • @carlelassus2521
    @carlelassus2521 Před rokem

    This is the smartest thing Commissioner David Stern did big game experience is learned in college basketball 🏀. There are exceptions to the rule but. One an done should be forever plus it helps keep college ball entertaining.

  • @Ransom6242
    @Ransom6242 Před rokem +1

    Na for everyone of those guys mentioned there’s 100 Sebastian telfairs.

  • @akeemMagic01
    @akeemMagic01 Před rokem +5

    JR Smith did fine!

  • @samjon6403
    @samjon6403 Před rokem +3

    Wood for the fire. 90% of young players get injured in the first 6 months

    • @SS-fb7zd
      @SS-fb7zd Před rokem +1

      Yes it is insane how many get hurt

  • @brandancarroll6936
    @brandancarroll6936 Před rokem +3

    Rob made excellent points. You shouldn’t be able to be drafted in war but not drafted in the nba

    • @bobbybetwirlin8442
      @bobbybetwirlin8442 Před rokem +1

      What does war have to do with anything? It’s harder to be in the nba then the army

    • @brandancarroll6936
      @brandancarroll6936 Před rokem +2

      @@bobbybetwirlin8442 at the age of 18 you are eligible to be drafted into war. Why should an 18 year old be eligible for that draft and not the NBA draft?

    • @bobbybetwirlin8442
      @bobbybetwirlin8442 Před rokem

      @@brandancarroll6936 because the nba draft is harder. The army litterally takes anyone to join. The NBA ain’t the army it’s way harder to join

  • @HotspurFC-cu6ny
    @HotspurFC-cu6ny Před rokem +3

    It’s much easier for athletes to make lots of money nowadays then it was 15-20 years ago because technology has made their lives easier they can start podcasts talking about basketball lol

  • @terryindachat7296
    @terryindachat7296 Před rokem +1

    I think all these great highschool players should go straight to the G-League or overseas before they get drafted... look at the success playing in a real pro league has on these athlete's... Giddey, Giannis, Luka, Lamelo, Jalen Green, Kuminga, Avdija, Killian Hayes, Anfernee Simon, Rudy Gobert, Jokic.

  • @macalloway1
    @macalloway1 Před rokem +1

    David stern understood that a lot of the narratives that create the various superstar match-ups came from college. The magic vs bird narrative essentially reinvigerated the league. The world had already heard of these players growing up so now you can pit the quiet player vs the outspoken player in christmas day games or the athletic player vs the skilled player that plays the same position. The audience grows with the player. I at the time felt it was racist because only the majority black leagues had these age requirements but they happened to be the most popular leagues (nfl,nba) where two superstar players could have an entire season's storyline hinge on them matching up at the right time. I see now it was a business decision, mostly.

  • @jojoluvshinata
    @jojoluvshinata Před rokem +1

    This was one of the best stances I’ve ever seen Rob take.

  • @Jmurda1983
    @Jmurda1983 Před rokem +2

    Pay the college kids and you won't have to worry about so many kids jumping from high school to the pros......And if they don't get drafted they should be allowed to go back to school.

    • @jaydell4039
      @jaydell4039 Před rokem

      Kind of hard at major schools cuz they trying to kick you out for the next class coming in.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před rokem +1

      Some parents can’t afford college for their kids

  • @youngdb9446
    @youngdb9446 Před rokem +1

    How Chris fanboy Broussard forgets Kobe as a high school player going to the nba on purpose is just disrespectful

  • @TepidShark
    @TepidShark Před rokem +1

    Draymond says they are trying to tie a harsher luxury tax as part of this. Which would mean players, agents and lot of other people won't get paid as much.

  • @nydibs
    @nydibs Před rokem

    I feel like drafts have been much better the last few years compared to when high school players were being drafted
    Minus Lebron, when was the last time a high school player was ready to contribute immediately to an nba team

  • @gipsonk2
    @gipsonk2 Před rokem

    Rob said it, if the kid isn’t ready don’t draft them. The problem is you are a GM or and owner and you don’t want to miss out on the possible the next Lebrun, Kobe, Jordan. And they end up being Sebastian Telfair and many others that never made it but the jump is too big. And the the league get watered down. No one wants to admit that the talent got better overall in the NBA because the NBA personal got a chance to see the player against better talent.

  • @jclemons121384
    @jclemons121384 Před rokem +1

    I don't think it was a mistake. People forget how ridiculous it started getting with these high school guys getting drafted when they clearly weren't ready. It had gotten bad for the league, in my opinion.

  • @newagestudios408
    @newagestudios408 Před rokem +1

    For everybody saying all these young guys are about to come straight out of high school is completely false, no HS player is coming straight from HS without being on any projected draft boards, be forreal. If you’re a projected prospect those will be the only ones that’ll be coming straight from HS. If you not a 4-5 star recruit you’re not getting drafted.

  • @camctrail
    @camctrail Před rokem +2

    The only reason I'm not 100% sold on it is cause younger kids are more at risk for serious injuries. Look at how many rookies in recent years have either missed a big chunk of the season or the entire season. Their bodies aren't developed for NBA punishment and 18 year olds even less so. I'm all for players getting the money they deserve but they put their careers at a far greater risk IMO

    • @dannytran1587
      @dannytran1587 Před rokem

      I agree with that but in a different way. I think it hurts their careers not mainly because of injuries, but because the level of competition is going to be so drastically different. I can see so many huge highschool prospects getting drafted and turning out to be complete busts because they had no time to develop in college ball. NCAAB is a lot different than highschool bball.

  • @cjdayne3033
    @cjdayne3033 Před rokem

    I agree with letting people go from high school to the nba I just don’t get why the nba players right now would want to fight for this.

  • @Lordspace
    @Lordspace Před rokem +1

    Lebron James has now entered the chat…
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  • @ThinkBeforeYouAct
    @ThinkBeforeYouAct Před rokem +1

    In my opinion it’s the players. They have to agree to the CBA. I don’t think guys like Udonis Haslem would still be around if high schoolers were allowed to hit the league immediately

  • @jonathankaede1767
    @jonathankaede1767 Před rokem

    One thing they forgot to consider is the benefit for the veteran players. The roster spots that these 18 yr olds take would have been for some veteran players. I would prefer one more year for kids to wait than for veterans to lose roster spots coz teams want to take chances and give it to 18 yr old prospects.

  • @TekkLuthor
    @TekkLuthor Před rokem

    I was amazing at art as kid. A school came to recruit me, they were looking for comic book artists. My dad said no I need to finish high school. From that moment my grades, everything started to suffer, I barely finished high school, was already kicked out of the house before I finished.

  • @SevenUP901
    @SevenUP901 Před rokem +1

    I'm for allowing kids to go straight from HS to the league. But I believe the NBA should require kids who choose the college route should do like the MLB & require them to stay 3yrs to make for a better college game today in basketball

  • @Biz613
    @Biz613 Před rokem

    In Team sports, it’s an issue in the locker room bringing in an 18 year old kid to play with grown men 25-35 with families.

  • @charlesjohnson536
    @charlesjohnson536 Před rokem +1

    HIGH SCHOOL KIDS NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE .. IT HELPS THEIR DEVELOPMENT .. IT IMPROVES THE COLLEGE GAME .. AND THEY ARE MORE PREPARED WHEN THEY GET TO THE LEAGUE ..

  • @risingphoenix1484
    @risingphoenix1484 Před rokem +1

    I really don't see what the bad thing is about going to college..... Playing against the very best 18-23 yr old basketball players in the country you really see who the great players are, they learn the fundamentals, they get TV time to market their name. And at the very least you get a free education, you make contacts., and you develop a network. There is really no downside.

    • @vicshephard9231
      @vicshephard9231 Před rokem

      Getting injured in college will set you back. Michael Porter Jr would've been picked #1 had he stayed healthy.

  • @Iceman-oc4ep
    @Iceman-oc4ep Před rokem +2

    NBA needs to stop, the league is terrible now. Years later after this change, no on will want to watch the NBA. There will not be anymore Lebrons, Kobes, or KG. Those guys have come and gone.

  • @stevenzerbe8481
    @stevenzerbe8481 Před rokem +1

    Everytime Chris mentions all time greats he always excludes Kobe it’s getting weird.

  • @donofthedistrict1989
    @donofthedistrict1989 Před rokem

    3:52 Rob sounding like a character from The PJs 😂

  • @coris3436
    @coris3436 Před rokem

    Thank you! Been saying it for years, there are far more busts from high school than have good careers

  • @renardharris1227
    @renardharris1227 Před rokem +3

    My opinion, I think it had to do with the numbers.. the shmoney. It’s a business on both sides, pro and amateur. Since the amateurs can make a few shams while in college, the schools don’t need an age requirement before going pro. And also they don’t need to pay em under the table anymore. Everything’s out in the open…

  • @dsteele2332
    @dsteele2332 Před rokem +1

    1 of a few times I've ever heard Rob say something I totally get and agree with lol

  • @socalgolf9978
    @socalgolf9978 Před rokem +6

    All these 18 yr olds are gonna declare for the draft and Fail and have nothing to fall back on .

    • @issiahsilva
      @issiahsilva Před rokem +3

      You acting like they can’t go to college ever
      Once they declare for the draft 😂😂

    • @cwebed-stuy9951
      @cwebed-stuy9951 Před rokem

      @@issiahsilva they won’t get a scholarship after they declared for the draft

    • @fighterck6241
      @fighterck6241 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@cwebed-stuy9951They'll have the money to pay for it. If you really gave two sh*ts abouy that you'd have voted for Bernie...🙄

  • @Jonnie_b
    @Jonnie_b Před rokem +1

    You need college to build yourself up like. Jordan did and Patrick Ewing. Who became great in college!

  • @Tkaayuchiha
    @Tkaayuchiha Před rokem +1

    Damn Chris don’t let rob talk 🤣and I don’t even want rob to talk like that but damn