What is Follow up and Non Follow Up methods of steering ?? Trouble shoot Rudder Hunting problem ??

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • Explains the concept of Manual Steering in Follow up and Non Follow up Mode
    It also shows some examples of using these modes as a TOOL for troubleshooting and zeroing in on the cause for # RudderHunting. Video may be useful for candidates appearing for Orals for COC #FollowupSteering # NonFollowupSteering #RMETCVideos
    RMETC is a consultancy company for Marine Engineering Training specializing in conducted workshops on Hydraulic Failure Management Courses for various shipping companies, for their international crew. More details at website rmetc.co.in

Komentáře • 106

  • @alpeshdevghare7589
    @alpeshdevghare7589 Před 3 lety +7

    Sir i have great respect for you, as u know now a days nobody giving knowledge for free and u doing such good job and the way describing the topic is awesome...u always be in my pray sir....

  • @amritt1989
    @amritt1989 Před 4 lety +2

    This should have a million views. Thank you sir. I have been confused between these modes for years.

  • @srinivasanthayyil3031
    @srinivasanthayyil3031 Před 4 lety +1

    Very good presentation. All aspects of rudder hunting has been dealt with. Congratulations dear Ramesh for painstakingly made the animation. It will definetly be helpful to many Chief Engineers to understand the working principle and systematic fault finding. Thanks once again. On follow up mode, Rudder remains in the position as long as steering wheel is kept at that position. If the steering wheel is spring loaded, the moment you leave the wheel, rudder will come back to midship.

  • @adithyam3003
    @adithyam3003 Před 4 lety +2

    Great Sir..I am an ETO..But i really appreciate the words you said last..

  • @davidthomas8986
    @davidthomas8986 Před 2 lety +1

    it is great value addition to humanity, people with experience and knowledge sharing it with public. Great purpose. Meaningfull life indeed. Thanks for the vid sir!!

  • @rakeshkohli8105
    @rakeshkohli8105 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent explanation Ramesh, for a novice and trouble shooting for sailing / shore support team.
    Conclusion was also interesting, electrical officer to solve problems outside engine room😊

  • @amaranand2871
    @amaranand2871 Před 4 lety +3

    very good video sir.....looking forward for more videos on steering....if possible cover hydraulic parts with modern steerings .....and if autopilot and transmitter are within your scope then please try to cover also that....stay healthy sir....

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 3 lety +1

      Sure..Will try and keep it in my to do list.Time permits, I would love to...

  • @mohankumar-qj4ml
    @mohankumar-qj4ml Před 4 lety +2

    Very helpful sir...Thank you...

  • @Highseasailor0711
    @Highseasailor0711 Před 4 lety +3

    Best presentation. A lot of doubts on this one cleared. Thank you sir.. 🙏

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      @aydinowen8290 Před 3 lety

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  • @Whisperin100
    @Whisperin100 Před 3 lety +1

    good explanation and good topic , was trying to find for 1 hrs non follow up mode explained like this and could not find untill i come across your video

  • @sanjaykrishna8113
    @sanjaykrishna8113 Před 3 lety +2

    Crystal clear sir keep doing sir🙏

  • @bhathikagamage905
    @bhathikagamage905 Před 3 lety

    Thanks a lot sir for your valuable videos. They helped to clear many doubts and render a better service. Wish you good health sir.

  • @mahendrayadav6411
    @mahendrayadav6411 Před 4 lety +1

    very helpfull specially with the animations thanks bada saab

  • @vinothmuthusamy6642
    @vinothmuthusamy6642 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much sir. All your videos are very informative for basic learners and clear explanation.today I cleared class 4 orals with help of your videos,specially that rudder and propeller. drop videos helped me. Thank you sir

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 2 lety

      Keep it up.Wish to see you as Chief Engineer soon.

  • @aneeshkrishnan
    @aneeshkrishnan Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome presentation thanks a lot sir

  • @jalaluddeenamity2883
    @jalaluddeenamity2883 Před 3 lety

    Thanks sir. Very helpful for our exams.
    May god bless you and your family.

  • @Romi-vf9lp
    @Romi-vf9lp Před 4 lety +2

    Very much informative....thanks

  • @shipjourney8132
    @shipjourney8132 Před 4 lety +2

    Very informative

  • @madhavasankaran1156
    @madhavasankaran1156 Před 4 lety +1

    Very nice Explanation

  • @gebremariamkassazerihun7862

    Chief u r doing good for us i am talking 2 engr course ur video is really worthy for me

  • @learners9103
    @learners9103 Před rokem

    Sir I am from deck side but still this videos help us alot.. Thank you sir

  • @muzaffarbargir689
    @muzaffarbargir689 Před měsícem

    Excellent

  • @lamborghinigl3979
    @lamborghinigl3979 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for making this lectures , all my respect 🙏

  • @SanjayYadav-qu1mf
    @SanjayYadav-qu1mf Před 3 lety +1

    One of my friend was telling me that during his watch as a third officer his captain who jut joined the ship one day back asked Bosun to put the ship to FOLLOW-UP mode from AUTO PILOT and he did so but she was still at AUTO PILOT and captain got panic that why steering is not coming on auto and called every officer on Bridge meanwhile third officer told him that it is because the NOBE or LEVER might came out and BOSUN while putting it back changed it to FOLLOW-UP while original position still at the auto pilot and after checking it was found that this is the problem.

  • @josefrancis9873
    @josefrancis9873 Před 3 lety +1

    Lol, so true sir. Anything that has a wire associated is naturally an electrical officers problem 😊😬

  • @sreejithsa6794
    @sreejithsa6794 Před 3 lety +1

    Best presentation sir thank you sir ...

  • @vivekmarirner
    @vivekmarirner Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks a lot sir for knowledge sharing.
    really helpful

  • @kawsaruljibon504
    @kawsaruljibon504 Před 2 lety

    Very useful video sir.watching from Bangladesh ❣️

  • @prigilarakkal5538
    @prigilarakkal5538 Před 4 lety +1

    thank u sir..keep going

  • @sreegovindsuresh9861
    @sreegovindsuresh9861 Před 2 lety

    Such a great channel .... Hats off to u sir🙌👏

  • @gojooyoung
    @gojooyoung Před 2 lety

    thank you very much the guys working with you are lucky. Please make more videos

  • @glesongomes9571
    @glesongomes9571 Před 3 lety

    Thanks chief.... these videos are a lot of help

  • @hashansasindu5766
    @hashansasindu5766 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this video (regarding from Srilanka)

  • @TousiffME
    @TousiffME Před 4 lety +1

    Like always more beautifully done sir, every time with a better presentation than before. Sir in troubleshooting hydraulic about the sticky solenoid valve point, is there a possibility of this jerky nature of rudder to be because of pitching of ship in rough weather ? Can that be taken into account before jumping into faulty solenoid valve or so conclusion?
    Also, can air trapped in the hydraulic system due to leakage in the system be the reason for slow response of the rudder movement on either direction? I mean if rudder is responding slow movement only on one side i.e either port or starboard?

    • @geetharajan4746
      @geetharajan4746 Před 4 lety

      the checking of air in the system is the first step,eventhough it is very unlikely .if ram packings are bad there are chances.
      ssr

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 4 lety +3

      Hi Tousiff..Tnks for you kind words as always.Air in the system is always a possibility, but the reasoning which I always hear is suspect in my opinion. I find it hard to believe that a leak will cause air ingress. Hydraulics is always about high to medium pressure oil always being available in every part of the line..So question of Air ingress should never Arise.So my belief is that in OPen loop Hydraulic system , where pump takes suction from TANK..Air can Enter due to two reasons--- Low level Of OIl in Tank which during Pitching can contribute to momentary air ingress. Other more likely point is..When you have low level of oil in Tank (Maybe still more than Alarm Level), The return Oil from deck etc ..if it FALLS from a height inside the tank ...can cause a lot of bubbling and this can find its way to pump suction.Even in a Ram type steering Gear ..and the RAm seals are Defective..OIL will LEAK for Sure.. but still Air will not enter the system through the seal. This is my reasoning. Have a Look at the the 4 ram circuit..Introspect ...See if you are able to understand my thought process...

    • @TousiffME
      @TousiffME Před 4 lety

      @@rmetcvideos thank you sir, will definitely look into 4 ram.

  • @bharanidharan6323
    @bharanidharan6323 Před 3 lety

    Thank you sir..keep posting new topics

  • @jesusmasi7502
    @jesusmasi7502 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Sir! Great video very helpfull. Godbless you.

  • @charlieeppes6857
    @charlieeppes6857 Před 3 lety

    Sir, thank you so much for uploading your wonderful videos. I love your animation, slides, and your excellent explanation!! Sir, if it would be all possible, in the future, would you please make a video on 24VDC battery charger insulation troubleshooting? One of our ships had a faulty AVR and thus the general use batteries could not be charged.

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 3 lety

      will try..would love to cover all topics. But making videos require a lot of time.

  • @amalraj6566
    @amalraj6566 Před 3 lety

    Thank you very much for this great video

  • @shinceshaiju5107
    @shinceshaiju5107 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for your support ❤️

  • @rickeyraj636
    @rickeyraj636 Před 4 lety +1

    Very helpful

  • @jayanthakalubowila2817

    Excellent explaing sir.thanks .

  • @ashishdwivedi9839
    @ashishdwivedi9839 Před 3 lety

    Very helpful video sir.thank you sir

  • @biker9259
    @biker9259 Před 2 lety

    Great information sir

  • @mohammadnasimuddin7467

    Good explanation sir!

  • @jitu2089
    @jitu2089 Před 3 lety

    Superb class sir

  • @kaungminmo8358
    @kaungminmo8358 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much Chief

  • @ojesvisharma1168
    @ojesvisharma1168 Před 11 měsíci

    excellent sir, many thanks..

  • @arjunthakur-eu9lf
    @arjunthakur-eu9lf Před rokem

    Excellent explanation sir , I have seen your other videos also very well explained 👍🏻👍🏻. I have one request from you can you please make a video on Main engine system lubrication ? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @anoopjose5576
    @anoopjose5576 Před 3 lety

    Dear chief sorry to tell you that no ship can sail without electrical officer as they are the pivotal aspects of the control and automation system.. I have seen chief engineers without even having knowledge in racking out a VCB or changing a contactor. I met with a 3rd engineer who debated with me over a mechanical fault telling me it was a electrical fault...

  • @sanyammoudgil8339
    @sanyammoudgil8339 Před 2 lety

    Sir, could you please make a video on thrust block and how to take its clearance

  • @gurbirsingh8232
    @gurbirsingh8232 Před 3 lety

    Nice video , thanks

  • @Josenrl
    @Josenrl Před 3 lety

    Thank you very much sir

  • @amaranand2871
    @amaranand2871 Před 3 lety

    nice one

  • @swapneiltamhankar9441
    @swapneiltamhankar9441 Před 3 lety +2

    What's the software which is used here ?
    Excellent presentation

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 3 lety

      graphic designing software from serif

  • @rishabhphogat8034
    @rishabhphogat8034 Před 2 lety

    Thank you sir....can u pls make video on VIT and super VIT....little confusing

  • @sumankuri5998
    @sumankuri5998 Před 3 lety

    Thank u sir... Understood

  • @origamifashion1082
    @origamifashion1082 Před rokem

    Thanks a lot

  • @gauravwaldia5888
    @gauravwaldia5888 Před 2 lety

    sir plz make a video on p i d controller

  • @dinesha3886
    @dinesha3886 Před 4 lety

    Sir, it's a very good presentation. What's the position no. 4. WINGS.

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 4 lety +1

      Tnks .I havent sailed in such ships, but I guess it must be for controlling the steering from the Bridge wings if such a provision is available on some ships

    • @dinesha3886
      @dinesha3886 Před 4 lety

      @@rmetcvideos . Thank you for taking your valuable time to reply me sir.

    • @SanjayYadav-qu1mf
      @SanjayYadav-qu1mf Před 3 lety

      @@dinesha3886 Yes Bada Saab it is for controlling the ships from bridge wings

  • @najinkunnath6009
    @najinkunnath6009 Před rokem +1

    Why in most of the ships ram type steering gears are used ?

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před rokem +1

      Not necessray..We have many ships with Vane type

  • @chandrabhushan6170
    @chandrabhushan6170 Před 2 lety

    how steering gear get signal from bridge helm order to rudder angle final position... in electro-hydroulic steering gear

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před rokem +1

      Comparision in Auto Pilot console.. signal to actuating mechanism -in sync with Feedback from Rudder ANgle transmitter

  • @SanjayDas-zw1tk
    @SanjayDas-zw1tk Před 3 lety

    If steering gear hunting . Action you will take as a C/E?

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 3 lety

      Find out if problem is in bridge or hydraulic..use non follow up to find it out...detailed explanation in this video itself..go to about 19 minutes in this video and you can find the details

  • @verminer7
    @verminer7 Před 3 lety

    Ive always wanted to know, can a vessel move in a straight line, even though knowing that propellers is subjected to tranverse thrust, on upper and lower blade, and since the upper and lower blade operate on different depths, the transverse thrust can never be equalized, so ive read that this unbalanace causes angular thrust which pushes the vessel to go either port or stbd side ( depending on if its right or left handed propeller ) alittle, so could someone please confirm if this is true and false

  • @jeyapaljohn6945
    @jeyapaljohn6945 Před 3 lety

    Actually,the feed back for the follow up mode of steering control is from a potentiometer which is located near the rudder stock and linked so that the turning movement of the stock is transferred to the potentiometer.This trans mitter has nothing to do with the rudder angle indication.For this purpose(indication) a synchro transmitter is used and fitted and linked same as the feed back potentiometer.Both transmitters have different function nothing in common.Narrative regarding NFU could have been better if described the need for using this mode and about control supply arrangement during this operation.Good effort but needs more improvement.

    • @SanjayYadav-qu1mf
      @SanjayYadav-qu1mf Před 3 lety

      NFU things are not for engineers sir and we don't steer the ship. we just do the fault finding and rectify it and its the basic and from that we can understand that NFU's are for turning the ship instantaneously to hard port or hard starboard

  • @bhageshkatoch2944
    @bhageshkatoch2944 Před 2 lety

    Sorry, how is NFU method is actually working? What is happening after we move the controller left or right? Plz sir i have so much confusion

    • @rmetcvideos
      @rmetcvideos  Před 2 lety +1

      The rudder will KEEP on going to port as long as the controller is operated..In FU mode you tell the rudder to go to a PARTICULAR angle, but in NFU mode u can only tel it yo go to prt side or Stbd side

    • @bhageshkatoch2944
      @bhageshkatoch2944 Před 2 lety

      @@rmetcvideos agreed sir but my question is where the signal is going? I read somewhere by NFU mode we are controlling 3 solenoid v/vs. Particularly I have confusion about the working.

    • @kapila7507
      @kapila7507 Před 2 lety +1

      In non follow up operate directional valve manualy untill rudder reach to desired angle. Onece you release the joistic directional valve come back to normal position and no oil feed to rams and hydraulic locking keep remain. That means rudder angle in desired angle. This is same like you carrying out emergency steering drill for electro hydraulic steering gear system from steering gear room. In non follow up system no feed back signal. As far as you are puting the joistic rudder will move. Once you release it keep rudder in that angle

    • @kapila7507
      @kapila7507 Před 2 lety +1

      Follow up ,non follow up or auto pilot signal goes to solonoids of directional valves in hydraulic system in steering gear room

    • @DeepakJha-rf7jz
      @DeepakJha-rf7jz Před 2 lety +1

      @@bhageshkatoch2944 In NFU your solenoids are not working.But when you move your joystick to directions of port or stbd ,you operate the directional valve indirectly. Like for the duration you hold the joystick to port or stbd,for the same duration your directional valve of the chosen direction remains open and hydraulic oil goes to move the ram in that direction. Once you leave the joystick(i.e. joystick comes to its original state) your directional valve closes and there is hydraulic locking of rudder at that angle .The angle you yourself check at the angle indicator and leave joystick accordingly.

  • @rohitwason9843
    @rohitwason9843 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent sir excellent

  • @nandakishorepradeep6678

    Really l laughed about presuming the problem to be electrical... that's a funny truth. Call bathisaab

  • @tetra-piyush5759
    @tetra-piyush5759 Před 6 měsíci

    It was a great video sir and really informative , Learning all concepts easily keeps teaching sir🌹🫀

  • @Brennanf15
    @Brennanf15 Před 3 lety

    Thank you sir

  • @satamarine816
    @satamarine816 Před 3 lety

    Thank you Sir

  • @deepakshanmughan7928
    @deepakshanmughan7928 Před 3 lety

    Thank you sir