I've experienced knee issues if I go back to wearing heel drop shoes for too long playing bball. There is exception where a drop shoe can work though for us zero droppers and that's usually if the heel has high compression. Not saying it works long term, but did okay for me in the short term while waiting for my first pair Altras. Thanks for your review! I'm excited to try Topos for the first time. Will for sure go with zero drop option, based off of your experience as I think we have the same level of drop sensitivity.
NICE! I love my Runventures (the zero drop Topo trailrunner). I actually used them in my recent 50k instead of my Altra Mont Blancs becaue I trusted the Topos more in the nasty conditions we were going to have (snow, mud, etc.!). You'll have to let me know how they work out for you!
Can't do zero drop tried 2 times and I am paying the price and real bad problems, the topo helped and the toebox was nice, I prefer more midfoot thickness but hey that's me
Great trail running shoe! I bounce around from 0 drop to 5mm myself and have occasional knee flare ups. I will pay more attention to what shoes im wearing when it happened again. 👍
Thanks, Dave! Ya, the knee issue for me seemed to be related to the drop of the shoe I was using. No issues since I went back to 100% zero drop. But every set of legs and gait is different. Certainly no 'one shoe fits all' out there. I can tell you that if Topo had a zero drop version of this, I would buy it sight unseen! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Greg! Ya, this is a killer shoe. If 5mm is the drop you like I would definitely go for it. Seems like the perfect shoe! If they ever come out with a zero drop version I will be 100% on board! Thanks so much for watching!
Great video man. There are not that many reviews on this shoe. I need a wide toebox but running vert in zero-drop gives me PF. A 5mm drop is perfect. I might have to push the button on these. Thank you, DoD, you have a new subscriber 🙂
Thanks Richard! Ya, I still love this shoe! If you don’t want a zero drop than this shoe might be perfect! I’m glad the review was helpful! Topo is doing good things so hopefully more people find out about their shoes. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!
@@DoseofDirt Ironically after banging on about PF from wearing zero-drop I ended up buying a pair of Terraultra 270s! Partly because they were on sale at an £84 ($110) bargain price. I had the old 260s before they became graphene and these are a totally different shoe. That was another great review you did btw. Take it easy man and enjoy the trails. Rich
Thanks man! Ya, forgot to mention that I was wearing the shirt because I had worn this shoe for the Grand Canyon rim to rim hike! Thanks for watching man!
Very well done!!! Just discovered this brand. I also need a wide toe box and, well, it's been difficult! Men's Altra LP and Olympus are too narrow for this gal. My met heads and toes still get squeezed a bit. I've tried on so many Hoka wides that I think I've given up on them (men's Speedgoat4, 2E, is decent - the widest shoe I could find. In blue/red. But you have to get the "right" color as the width seems to change with the color. I wish I knew how the width on this shoe compared to the Speedgoat 4. I'm probably going to be exploring this brand and possibly New Balance.
Loved the review. I’m running in Asics with 10mm drop and got PF for the first time. Looking for a wide toe box Trail runner for technical terrain that I can run in for hours on end. This seems like a great candidate. Just a heads up, your Amazon link is for the G270, not the Mtn racer 2
My topo mtn Racers "1" lost it at the sole seam a lot sooner than I thought they would. I was pretty rough on them, river crossings and heat so watch out for that. :) I also got knee pain and Plantar Fasciitis when I switched off zero drop completely. Think that could be it?
Interesting! I never tried the 1s but have heard the 2s are an improvement. Yes, I think the knee pain came from doing long runs in this 5mm drop after conditioning my body to zero drop for years and years. So that’s not a knock on the shoe (unless you need a zero drop shoe). Unfortunately it means I won’t be using them since zero drop is what works for me. What are you wearing now?? Thanks for watching!!
Thanks John! I almost wish that zero drop didn’t work for me, because that would make this the perfect shoe for longer trail sessions! But I’m going to try Topos runventure next, which IS a zero drop! I have high hopes for that one!
Nice video my man. Thanks for finally highlighting the topo athletic brand for me to try out. I currently wear vivobarefoot and Altra shoes but the topo range is something I want to try for a road shoe as I come out of a running injury. It’s a 3mm drop so slightly lower than this one. Sounds like you will keep hiking in these though right? Just not run due to knee pain?
Hey Phil! Ya, Topo is a brand I've been impressed with! They also have a zero drop Runventure 3 that I'll be releasing a review of within a few weeks. It's a lower stack height (just 20mm) but I LOVE running in them. Yes, the Topo MTN Racers have continued to work well for me for hiking, just not running or super long distances. Love this shoe! Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt Would you mind if I shot a reaction video one of your future content? I’m not looking to create negative or critical footage, just a live honest reaction and a bit of humour rolled in. If you don’t like the video, I would take it down immediately.
I say go for it! Thanks for asking first and I appreciate that you're not looking to be negative. If you decide to do it, I'll be interested to see it!
Hey Rich! I tried them and honestly LOVED it for shorter runs but it wasn't wide enough for my caveman feet on longer runs. I've never run in a shoe that FELT so QUICK! Awesome shoe! Wish it worked for me on longer runs.
That's worryingly as I have big feet but havent done any really long runs in the G270s yet. Do you have a zero drop recommendation for trail runs? I found the Lone Peak too thin and the Olympus too narrow at the mid foot Thanks
@@richt3993 When you say the Lone Peak was too "thin" are you talking about the stack height? Width? Or the materials? Here's the zero drop shoes I have and like, along with the draw backs: Lone Peak - It is by far the widest trail runner in the toe box. I don't like the outsole (not Vibram) and the materials aren't super durable. But they are comfortable right out of the box Topo Runventure 3 (the 4 is out now) - It is zero drop, but only a 20mm stack, so I wasn't sure it would be good for long runs. But I did my first 50k in them and they were great! They are super durable so far and have a Vibram outsole. Only thing I don't love about them is that they aren't as wide in the toe box as the Lone Peak (But definitely wider than the G270 Lems Primal Pursuit - This feel a bit clunkier than the Lone Peak or Runventure. They have more of a casual run feel than a race feel. Honestly I like them for backpacking and hiking more than running, but they are super durable, nice and wide in the toe box. I have tried tons of other -Olympus - narrow in the midfoot and to bulky underfoot -Mt Blanc - Can't get a good fit around the ankle and let in tons of little rocks. Might be better with gaiters -Timp - Could barely get my foot in -Superior - super comfortable, but only works for runs less than 6-7 mile for me. Outsole isn't good (not Vibram) One I REALLY want to try -Topo has a new zero drop trail runner with a higher stack height - the Pursuit. It has 28mm of stack height and all the other things I love about the Topo Runventure 3 Would love to hear about others you try. Like I said, the G270 is AWESOME just wish it was a tad wider for my feet, but every foot is different.
@@DoseofDirt Thanks for that! I meant the sole is too thin. I like a little more stack height. There is a definite gap in the market for decent stack height, foot shaped toolbox AND wide mid foot!
Loved the review! Out of curiosity, are you going to still give them a chance and wear them? Im looking at topos for the same reason as you. Hoping for more size consistency through models and durability
Hey Kevin! Unfortunately I’m a little too paranoid to wear them trail running because of how my gait seems to have adapted to zero drop. I was plagued with knee issues before discovering zero drop shoes and long runs in this one seemed to bring them back. Which was a massive bummer. I have been trying Topos runventure 3, which I am loving because it has a zero drop. But the toe box doesn’t seem as wide as my altra lone peaks were and it’s only a 20mm drop, so may not work on long runs. So far I haven’t had great success finding a true wide toe box, zero drop shoe that feels as good as the Altra Lone peaks did. Ugh! Have you tried any others that seem to work for you?? Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt thanks so much for your detailed response! I really appreciate it! I am trying to figure out a similar thing, I have been running in altras for about 10 months. I run ultras and at the end of the races my feet are usually killing me to the point that I want more cushion so I’ve tried non zero drop (hokas/new balance) and once I switch from zero drop it feels a little unnatural and I think it causes an issue with my knee as well. I want to try the lone peaks as I’ve run in the timps and they have awful durability. I haven’t been able to find anything else that has cushion and zero drop. I use the superior 5s now but I had a sizing issue with them. I am going to try a pair of topos and see if the wide toe box helps with the knee pain. If not, I’ll stick with altras and just deal with the durability issues!
@@KevinHoegler I put my foot in a pair of Timps recently and can tell you that the LP toe box is A LOT roomier. I don't know if it's wider or not, but there is a lot more 'head room' in the LP. I honestly can't even use the Timps because of how low it is over the toes. The new LPs look to be more durable than my LP 4.5s (and more than the timps). I think the 6 may be coming out next month. You're right--trying to find something with good cushion and zero drop seems tough. I haven't found one with a stack height more than 20mm yet (other than Altras). Which is fine for shorter runs, but I don't think I could do an Ultra with that kind of stack height...
@@DoseofDirt that sounds great with the LPs. I’m going to have to give them a try. I feel like it’s my next best option. I do like a lot of toe room so that sounds great that they have more headroom! Hopefully, they’re what I need. Yeah definitely need some more cushion after a while! The trail will get me haha
That's a real bummer that this one didn't quite work for you either. Why did you pick the mt line over the runventure which is 0drop and 20mm stack height? where are you looking next? merrell?
I wanted a higher stack height shoe for longer trail sessions, so went with the Mtn racer 2. In hind sight that was a mistake… but definitely ordering the runventure next! But been thinking about Merrell and/or xero as well. This one was perfect other than that small drop! Thanks for watching man!
@@DoseofDirt I checked out topo too! Got a pair of Phantoms...they are really comfortable! Great for lots of daily walking around work...they feel like a more chill version of the Altra Paradigms (less stack height) but man, I really like their midsole too! I'll check out their trail shoes ...but a responsible me feels like I should destroy my altra superior 4.5, and saconey Peregrine 8 and 10 first...that's almost a whole AT worth of shoes, lol! I hate how this kinda reads like shoe name dropping...forgive me!
@@evandickinson6393 I was impressed with all the shoes that you know as I read through the list of names… 🤣 I hadn’t even though about road shoes, but could use a good zero drop road shoe to walk the dogs when we aren’t hitting the trails. I am going to check that out! People have told me those Saucony Peregrines last forever, so you might not be getting new trail shoes for a while. Haha! You could always sell them used. Just sayin! You’re right there the midsole material in the Topos seems awesome. I have really high hopes for the runventure! Just ordered them last night be use I just couldn’t wait any longer. 🤣
I have definitely struggled with my IT band in the past, but not sure what this was. All I know is that when I went back to zero drop shoes it went away. So probably not something to worry about unless you are used to zero drop shoes. It kills me that these aren't zero drop, because if they were they would be my all time favorite shoe!
@@DoseofDirt I am a zero drop guy, but I want these to work so bad, I have decided to try them anyway. I will have this moment to look back to add my I told you so moment. The end of your video broke my heart.
@@tminard33 haha! I honestly hope there ISN'T an 'i told you so' moment! I tried them because others who were 'zero droppers' told me they worked fine for them and they didn't notice the 3mm drop. So maybe (hopefully) you'll fall into that camp! I also tried Topos Runventure 3. I REALLY like them, but they don't feel quite as roomy in the toe box as the MTN Racers and the stack height is only 20mm. When you try them, I'd love to know how they work for you!
@@onespotlessmind23 they have worked pretty good so far. The drop isn't noticeable to me and they haven't caused me any issues. They are stiffer than Altras, and they take time to break in. They feel better after 100 miles than they felt new.
Thanks, Steffen! Yes, I'm sure that is part of it. But I thought maybe just a 3mm drop would be alright (and I had talk to others who were used to zero drop and said it wasn't a big deal). But I like the zero drop platform overall, so don't want to transition away from it. But you're right, I'm sure I could get used to them if I wanted to transition slowly out of zero drop.
Yes. It's single layer mesh. But feels a little more durable than the mesh on other trail runners I've worn. Still holding up great! I can see light passing through, and if I wear them on a really dusty trail than my feet end up dirty (I have the same experience with any other trail runner I've worn).
I've experienced knee issues if I go back to wearing heel drop shoes for too long playing bball. There is exception where a drop shoe can work though for us zero droppers and that's usually if the heel has high compression. Not saying it works long term, but did okay for me in the short term while waiting for my first pair Altras. Thanks for your review! I'm excited to try Topos for the first time. Will for sure go with zero drop option, based off of your experience as I think we have the same level of drop sensitivity.
NICE! I love my Runventures (the zero drop Topo trailrunner). I actually used them in my recent 50k instead of my Altra Mont Blancs becaue I trusted the Topos more in the nasty conditions we were going to have (snow, mud, etc.!). You'll have to let me know how they work out for you!
Can't do zero drop tried 2 times and I am paying the price and real bad problems, the topo helped and the toebox was nice, I prefer more midfoot thickness but hey that's me
Great trail running shoe! I bounce around from 0 drop to 5mm myself and have occasional knee flare ups. I will pay more attention to what shoes im wearing when it happened again. 👍
Thanks, Dave! Ya, the knee issue for me seemed to be related to the drop of the shoe I was using. No issues since I went back to 100% zero drop. But every set of legs and gait is different. Certainly no 'one shoe fits all' out there. I can tell you that if Topo had a zero drop version of this, I would buy it sight unseen!
Thanks for watching!
Great review. 4-6 mm happens to be my sweet spot for drop I’ve run/ hiked in the previous mtn racer and this seems like an upgrade. 👍🏼
Thanks Greg! Ya, this is a killer shoe. If 5mm is the drop you like I would definitely go for it. Seems like the perfect shoe! If they ever come out with a zero drop version I will be 100% on board! Thanks so much for watching!
Great video man. There are not that many reviews on this shoe. I need a wide toebox but running vert in zero-drop gives me PF. A 5mm drop is perfect. I might have to push the button on these. Thank you, DoD, you have a new subscriber 🙂
Thanks Richard! Ya, I still love this shoe! If you don’t want a zero drop than this shoe might be perfect! I’m glad the review was helpful! Topo is doing good things so hopefully more people find out about their shoes. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!
@@DoseofDirt Ironically after banging on about PF from wearing zero-drop I ended up buying a pair of Terraultra 270s! Partly because they were on sale at an £84 ($110) bargain price. I had the old 260s before they became graphene and these are a totally different shoe. That was another great review you did btw. Take it easy man and enjoy the trails. Rich
@@richardellam2315 Thanks Rich! Keep tearing it up out there!
Fantastic review! Thank you.
Thank you! And dang, if you are in Bend you must have some gorgeous running in your state!
@@DoseofDirt LOL, it’s truly gorgeous here, love Bend!
Sweet shoe review Jeff! Dig the t-shirt!
Thanks man! Ya, forgot to mention that I was wearing the shirt because I had worn this shoe for the Grand Canyon rim to rim hike! Thanks for watching man!
The quest continues. Nice review.
Indeed! The quest continues! That unicorn shoe is out there somewhere! Thanks for watching and for your kind words!
Very well done!!!
Just discovered this brand. I also need a wide toe box and, well, it's been difficult! Men's Altra LP and Olympus are too narrow for this gal. My met heads and toes still get squeezed a bit. I've tried on so many Hoka wides that I think I've given up on them (men's Speedgoat4, 2E, is decent - the widest shoe I could find. In blue/red. But you have to get the "right" color as the width seems to change with the color.
I wish I knew how the width on this shoe compared to the Speedgoat 4.
I'm probably going to be exploring this brand and possibly New Balance.
Good information. Thank you
Thanks John! Glad it was helpful!
I agree with you man🔝😉👏
Thanks, Luce! Loving the Topo shoes right now! Lately my fave is the Runventure 3!
Thanks so much for watching!
Between MTN Race 2 and RunVenture 3, the Pursuit is a good compromise 0 drop and 28 mm stack
Loved the review. I’m running in Asics with 10mm drop and got PF for the first time. Looking for a wide toe box Trail runner for technical terrain that I can run in for hours on end. This seems like a great candidate. Just a heads up, your Amazon link is for the G270, not the Mtn racer 2
Nice looking shoe. Had my eye on this one but….that 5mm drop would result in a virtual slap from you !! Zero is hero.
🤣🤣 you know it would! Ya, this will be my first and last venture into the non-zero drop world. As you said, zero is hero!
Thanks for watching!
My topo mtn Racers "1" lost it at the sole seam a lot sooner than I thought they would. I was pretty rough on them, river crossings and heat so watch out for that. :) I also got knee pain and Plantar Fasciitis when I switched off zero drop completely. Think that could be it?
Interesting! I never tried the 1s but have heard the 2s are an improvement. Yes, I think the knee pain came from doing long runs in this 5mm drop after conditioning my body to zero drop for years and years. So that’s not a knock on the shoe (unless you need a zero drop shoe). Unfortunately it means I won’t be using them since zero drop is what works for me.
What are you wearing now??
Thanks for watching!!
Zero drop does not work for me. I have the TOpo Red High top and Speedcross 5 both are working. Thank you for posting your review.
Thanks John! I almost wish that zero drop didn’t work for me, because that would make this the perfect shoe for longer trail sessions! But I’m going to try Topos runventure next, which IS a zero drop! I have high hopes for that one!
I went from 0 drop altras to the mtn racers and won’t look back and I have zero issues with knee pain.
Nice video my man. Thanks for finally highlighting the topo athletic brand for me to try out. I currently wear vivobarefoot and Altra shoes but the topo range is something I want to try for a road shoe as I come out of a running injury. It’s a 3mm drop so slightly lower than this one. Sounds like you will keep hiking in these though right? Just not run due to knee pain?
Hey Phil! Ya, Topo is a brand I've been impressed with! They also have a zero drop Runventure 3 that I'll be releasing a review of within a few weeks. It's a lower stack height (just 20mm) but I LOVE running in them. Yes, the Topo MTN Racers have continued to work well for me for hiking, just not running or super long distances. Love this shoe!
Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt Would you mind if I shot a reaction video one of your future content? I’m not looking to create negative or critical footage, just a live honest reaction and a bit of humour rolled in. If you don’t like the video, I would take it down immediately.
I say go for it! Thanks for asking first and I appreciate that you're not looking to be negative. If you decide to do it, I'll be interested to see it!
@@DoseofDirt ok that’s great. Thanks man :)
Inov8 G270 has a wide toebox, zero drop and very durable
Hey Rich! I tried them and honestly LOVED it for shorter runs but it wasn't wide enough for my caveman feet on longer runs. I've never run in a shoe that FELT so QUICK! Awesome shoe! Wish it worked for me on longer runs.
That's worryingly as I have big feet but havent done any really long runs in the G270s yet.
Do you have a zero drop recommendation for trail runs?
I found the Lone Peak too thin and the Olympus too narrow at the mid foot
Thanks
@@richt3993 When you say the Lone Peak was too "thin" are you talking about the stack height? Width? Or the materials?
Here's the zero drop shoes I have and like, along with the draw backs:
Lone Peak - It is by far the widest trail runner in the toe box. I don't like the outsole (not Vibram) and the materials aren't super durable. But they are comfortable right out of the box
Topo Runventure 3 (the 4 is out now) - It is zero drop, but only a 20mm stack, so I wasn't sure it would be good for long runs. But I did my first 50k in them and they were great! They are super durable so far and have a Vibram outsole. Only thing I don't love about them is that they aren't as wide in the toe box as the Lone Peak (But definitely wider than the G270
Lems Primal Pursuit - This feel a bit clunkier than the Lone Peak or Runventure. They have more of a casual run feel than a race feel. Honestly I like them for backpacking and hiking more than running, but they are super durable, nice and wide in the toe box.
I have tried tons of other
-Olympus - narrow in the midfoot and to bulky underfoot
-Mt Blanc - Can't get a good fit around the ankle and let in tons of little rocks. Might be better with gaiters
-Timp - Could barely get my foot in
-Superior - super comfortable, but only works for runs less than 6-7 mile for me. Outsole isn't good (not Vibram)
One I REALLY want to try
-Topo has a new zero drop trail runner with a higher stack height - the Pursuit. It has 28mm of stack height and all the other things I love about the Topo Runventure 3
Would love to hear about others you try. Like I said, the G270 is AWESOME just wish it was a tad wider for my feet, but every foot is different.
@@DoseofDirt Thanks for that!
I meant the sole is too thin. I like a little more stack height.
There is a definite gap in the market for decent stack height, foot shaped toolbox AND wide mid foot!
please consider using harnesses with your dogs
Wide toe-box hunter, so am I. However, my kinda shoes should have some drop and this one looks fine. So, this might be it /lol/
Thanks, Apiyut! If you like a wide toe box and a little drop, this could be the one! It's a fantastic shoe!
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Loved the review! Out of curiosity, are you going to still give them a chance and wear them? Im looking at topos for the same reason as you. Hoping for more size consistency through models and durability
Hey Kevin! Unfortunately I’m a little too paranoid to wear them trail running because of how my gait seems to have adapted to zero drop. I was plagued with knee issues before discovering zero drop shoes and long runs in this one seemed to bring them back. Which was a massive bummer.
I have been trying Topos runventure 3, which I am loving because it has a zero drop. But the toe box doesn’t seem as wide as my altra lone peaks were and it’s only a 20mm drop, so may not work on long runs.
So far I haven’t had great success finding a true wide toe box, zero drop shoe that feels as good as the Altra Lone peaks did. Ugh!
Have you tried any others that seem to work for you??
Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt thanks so much for your detailed response! I really appreciate it! I am trying to figure out a similar thing, I have been running in altras for about 10 months. I run ultras and at the end of the races my feet are usually killing me to the point that I want more cushion so I’ve tried non zero drop (hokas/new balance) and once I switch from zero drop it feels a little unnatural and I think it causes an issue with my knee as well. I want to try the lone peaks as I’ve run in the timps and they have awful durability. I haven’t been able to find anything else that has cushion and zero drop. I use the superior 5s now but I had a sizing issue with them. I am going to try a pair of topos and see if the wide toe box helps with the knee pain. If not, I’ll stick with altras and just deal with the durability issues!
@@KevinHoegler I put my foot in a pair of Timps recently and can tell you that the LP toe box is A LOT roomier. I don't know if it's wider or not, but there is a lot more 'head room' in the LP. I honestly can't even use the Timps because of how low it is over the toes. The new LPs look to be more durable than my LP 4.5s (and more than the timps). I think the 6 may be coming out next month.
You're right--trying to find something with good cushion and zero drop seems tough. I haven't found one with a stack height more than 20mm yet (other than Altras). Which is fine for shorter runs, but I don't think I could do an Ultra with that kind of stack height...
@@DoseofDirt that sounds great with the LPs. I’m going to have to give them a try. I feel like it’s my next best option. I do like a lot of toe room so that sounds great that they have more headroom! Hopefully, they’re what I need. Yeah definitely need some more cushion after a while! The trail will get me haha
Great review! Just a heads up - it’s pronounced Toh-poh. It’s the first two letters of the founder’s name, Tony Post.
That's a real bummer that this one didn't quite work for you either. Why did you pick the mt line over the runventure which is 0drop and 20mm stack height?
where are you looking next? merrell?
I wanted a higher stack height shoe for longer trail sessions, so went with the Mtn racer 2. In hind sight that was a mistake… but definitely ordering the runventure next! But been thinking about Merrell and/or xero as well.
This one was perfect other than that small drop!
Thanks for watching man!
@@DoseofDirt I checked out topo too! Got a pair of Phantoms...they are really comfortable! Great for lots of daily walking around work...they feel like a more chill version of the Altra Paradigms (less stack height) but man, I really like their midsole too! I'll check out their trail shoes ...but a responsible me feels like I should destroy my altra superior 4.5, and saconey Peregrine 8 and 10 first...that's almost a whole AT worth of shoes, lol! I hate how this kinda reads like shoe name dropping...forgive me!
@@evandickinson6393 I was impressed with all the shoes that you know as I read through the list of names… 🤣 I hadn’t even though about road shoes, but could use a good zero drop road shoe to walk the dogs when we aren’t hitting the trails. I am going to check that out! People have told me those Saucony Peregrines last forever, so you might not be getting new trail shoes for a while. Haha! You could always sell them used. Just sayin! You’re right there the midsole material in the Topos seems awesome. I have really high hopes for the runventure! Just ordered them last night be use I just couldn’t wait any longer. 🤣
@@DoseofDirt topo phantoms aren't 0 drop...just a heads up, Altra paradigms are though...and there's a LOT of midsole on those bad boys, LOL.
@@evandickinson6393 thanks for the heads up! Ya, I think I'm going to be only zero drop for now!
“Unfortunately there’s one thing that I can’t stand about this shoe: …. it’s yellow.”
Do you feel like your knee pain was IT band related or something else?
I have definitely struggled with my IT band in the past, but not sure what this was. All I know is that when I went back to zero drop shoes it went away. So probably not something to worry about unless you are used to zero drop shoes. It kills me that these aren't zero drop, because if they were they would be my all time favorite shoe!
@@DoseofDirt I am a zero drop guy, but I want these to work so bad, I have decided to try them anyway. I will have this moment to look back to add my I told you so moment. The end of your video broke my heart.
@@tminard33 haha! I honestly hope there ISN'T an 'i told you so' moment! I tried them because others who were 'zero droppers' told me they worked fine for them and they didn't notice the 3mm drop. So maybe (hopefully) you'll fall into that camp! I also tried Topos Runventure 3. I REALLY like them, but they don't feel quite as roomy in the toe box as the MTN Racers and the stack height is only 20mm.
When you try them, I'd love to know how they work for you!
@@tminard33 Did you get to try these? How is the higher drop working for you? Thanks!
@@onespotlessmind23 they have worked pretty good so far. The drop isn't noticeable to me and they haven't caused me any issues. They are stiffer than Altras, and they take time to break in. They feel better after 100 miles than they felt new.
Have you concidered that a lot of people have to adjust to a zero drop shoe over a period and that opposite also could be the case?
Thanks, Steffen! Yes, I'm sure that is part of it. But I thought maybe just a 3mm drop would be alright (and I had talk to others who were used to zero drop and said it wasn't a big deal). But I like the zero drop platform overall, so don't want to transition away from it. But you're right, I'm sure I could get used to them if I wanted to transition slowly out of zero drop.
The upper is a single layer mesh? Can you see light passing through?
Yes. It's single layer mesh. But feels a little more durable than the mesh on other trail runners I've worn. Still holding up great!
I can see light passing through, and if I wear them on a really dusty trail than my feet end up dirty (I have the same experience with any other trail runner I've worn).
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Let me know how they work out for you!
@@DoseofDirt Yeah I will.