Bought the LL16 12 string and was so impressed that I bought the LL16D. The Deluxe is all black gloss has different bindings and lots of abalone. Oh... Its sonorous like a grand piano. My third Yamaha guitar. Highly recommended. Also have the AC5R-ARE that is a step or so above these LL16 not to make them seem a poor choice but with a larger price comes incremental improvements. All great guitars, choose what fits your budget. Cheers.
Ooh, I have been looking at the Japan made AC5 too. I am waiting to play one when it comes in stock at my local music store. I do have 4 dreadnought type guitars though …
I ve just tried a Yamaha LL16 ARE brand new in a shop. I played it for an hour or so, any genres of music and style. Even though I own a much more expansive Martin HD-28V I was shocked of how good this guitar sounds! Now I m thinking of buying one, it’s really awsome!
I was playing mine and remain so happy with it. Being rosewood and Engelmann it has a refined sound. It is also wider in the lower bout than a Martin dreadnought and has a slightly longer scale, so it holds up for volume and power. It handles drop tuning really well too. Just a great guitar!
You've got good taste: Eastman and Yamaha are both fantastic builders. The LL16 is a great guitar, especially at its price. Yours sounded great, too, especially when you dropped down into DADGAD. Quite a rumble to it. Thanks for the nice review!
Thankyou. I am still very keen on the Yamaha. It has lovely overtones, strong bass as you would expect from a dreadnought sized body and so far has been very stable here in humid Sydney.
The 6 series do sound very good too. Same quality solid top and construction as the 16 series. Yamaha redesigned their bracing for these guitars and they sound really good 👍
Hi, it does have the five piece neck, but the wood is almost the same colour, so it doesn’t show in the video. It is unusual that it is not the 2 darker strips.
Thanks for sharing your experience with great comments....yes I love Yamaha guitars and in fact I also have a Yamaha piano which is so well made .....not sure where to buy the LL16 model in Melbourne as most stores don't have them in stock.... cheers 🦘🦘😀
My pleasure! They are great value and judging by the popularity of this video and other reviews, they are popular. I hope one turns up soon in Melbourne and you can try it.
I am thinking about getting the LL16 but there is none to found locally. I don't like buying acoustics online and don't like shipping back if it doesn't work out. I found a used one online in Tennessee, so I am just staring at it online. If I get the LL16 it will complete my acoustic lineup. Dreadnaught Guild d50 and smaller body Yamaha AC3M DLX are my other two main acoustics. I have two lower end guitars and they both sound lower end, no love lost there.
I have bought guitars online and I like to see a photo of the saddle height and a measurement of the action at the 12th fret. If those things are OK I will take a punt. Did you end up getting an LL16?
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel Haven't bought the LL16. Those photos are a good idea. There is no rush to buy. I am a bit curious about the rosewood vs. mahogany difference. Does it really matter all that much?
Yamaha has really picked up their game with their guitars now which is one reason I turned a friend on to this model in particular. For it's price point, it's a great sounding guitar, and you get Yamaha's attention to quality, and details.
100% agree. I ignored Yamahas for decades, but since they changed their bracing, the got really good. This LL16 stacks up against more expensive guitars for tone and volume, and refinement imho.
Yes indeed,Don here from Hamilton NZ on my Wife's tablet-SUSAN, I bought a second hand LJX6C about 7 weeks ago, I googled the series first, because I had NO Idea of these series, as in my 55 years of playing acoustic guitar's I'd Never Ever seen these before, mine had a Small amount of damage, got that fixed & WOW, such a Quality sound, so I would Imagine your guitar would be another step up again, and thanks for the video 😊😊😊
Yamaha have made these higher end models for many years. Have always been among the best makers. Just a strange bias against them implying that they are just cheap intro level instruments. Just ignorance, I think. Anyway, just my two cents. People will form opinions, and I really dont much care. I love my Yammies, and thats all...lol.
Thankyou! The LL16 series are made in China. The higher number LL guitars are made in Japan. I have never played a Japanese one, apparently they are more hand made, like a custom shop.
Hi as they are all similar large body size I think they would all be similar for vocal accompaniment. It would be a case of which tone you prefer. Maybe think about trying smaller body sizes to see if those sit better with your voice. All the best from Australia 👋🇦🇺
Not sure why they don't use a real bone nut and saddle? I have all wood spruce / Mahogany guild D140 CE westerly edition retail $900 and has Bone but I really like Yamahas very well made instruments. So much to choose from now with Epiphone making great acoustics as well. I want them all!
Hi, yes, I wouldn’t have thought it would cost Yamaha much more to use a bone nut and saddle. I have been buying cheap bone saddles from China for years now through eBay. I also agree the quality all solid wood guitars available at the moment for under US$1000 are amazing. The Epiphone inspired by Gibson Indonesian guitars are really nice. I also like the Guild GADs and more recent Waverley Collection. But the newish Yamaha is my current favourite, displacing my Eastman E3 and E10D. I do wonder if this era of cheap high quality guitars will last?
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel agree bone nut and saddle are cheap now to get -Eastman are great and really like them . I did purchase a used Zager zad50 and really like it a quality instrument. I was going to pull the trigger on the Yamaha LL16 in black . Cant buy them all !
I’ve tried bone and tusq in my ll16m and the urea saddle was better so I went back to the uretha plastic. Yamaha to my ear is using it for a reason because it straight up works. It’s a very dense plastic like tusq but it’s very brittle. Problem with bone is a single piece of bone saddle will vary in density throughout the saddle more porous in some areas less porous in others. I’ve noticed with the uretha all the pressed notes in a chord ring with more authority more than the bone saddles I tried and the tusq in me ll16m produced to much highs. The uretha also makes the tone in mine more balanced with plenty of low end bass. Seems smoother for strumming as well it’s a very very smooth strummer to say the least with the uretha
That was very interesting it's saddĺe being as lose as it was (quality control??) Yes even the best of guitar maker's slip up sometimes, & its a simply fix, which is why I make & fit these myself if necessary & before I buy I always check them first, if there's a problem there I Always ask for a discount or the store can fix it for you, Otherwise....?
Thanks for your comment. I also keep a supply of saddles and tweak them myself. I did wonder if the loose fit was on purpose with this Yamaha? In any case I replaced it with bone and it fit a bit more tightly.
Yes, Martin D28 is 25.4” vs 25 9/16 on the Yamaha. It’s confusing that Martin mix decimal and imperial in their measure. 1/10 inch is 2.54mm, plus the extra 1/64” is .397mm, so that makes the Yamaha just a fraction under 3mm longer.
Hi, the LS16 is better as it has solid rosewood back and sides, the LS6 has laminated back and sides. The higher the number in the L series the higher the quality and materials.
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel thank you Sir for the comparison video. I have an E3DE just swapped out the bridge pins for bone ones it sound better to me now.
Well firstly I think about the LS16 a lot. I almost bought one at my local music shop soon after I got the LL. It was lovely and loud for a small body guitar. The body is actually quite deep. Anyway, I went back a week later and it was sold. I then discovered it was bought by my guitar buddy Chris who did the humidity video with me! I think the LS16 would be great for recording, where you generally want to remove that extra bass anyway.
Hi, Yes sorry for being greedy! I now own the LL16 in burst and the Ls16 in natural. They are amazing guitars - I am happy to bring the Ls16 around sometime if you want to do a comparison video for your channel (it's guitar buddy Chris using my dodgy youtube handle ;)
thank you very much for the reply Of course I understood I didn't think it was a different series or one of the first, I was very happy I bought two of them from LS 16 and the l l 16 d
The LL16 has 1 3/4 inch nut and not super slim, but I don’t feel it is chunky. I think you would like the Blueridge neck, that is the slimmest neck I ever had on an acoustic. Good luck finding a guitar!
Sounds great Congrats! nice review, appreciated! ❤
Thanks Margie! Much appreciated 💖👋🇦🇺
Bought the LL16 12 string and was so impressed that I bought the LL16D. The Deluxe is all black gloss has different bindings and lots of abalone. Oh... Its sonorous like a grand piano. My third Yamaha guitar. Highly recommended. Also have the AC5R-ARE that is a step or so above these LL16 not to make them seem a poor choice but with a larger price comes incremental improvements. All great guitars, choose what fits your budget. Cheers.
Ooh, I have been looking at the Japan made AC5 too. I am waiting to play one when it comes in stock at my local music store. I do have 4 dreadnought type guitars though …
I ve just tried a Yamaha LL16 ARE brand new in a shop. I played it for an hour or so, any genres of music and style.
Even though I own a much more expansive Martin HD-28V I was shocked of how good this guitar sounds!
Now I m thinking of buying one, it’s really awsome!
I was playing mine and remain so happy with it. Being rosewood and Engelmann it has a refined sound. It is also wider in the lower bout than a Martin dreadnought and has a slightly longer scale, so it holds up for volume and power. It handles drop tuning really well too. Just a great guitar!
You've got good taste: Eastman and Yamaha are both fantastic builders. The LL16 is a great guitar, especially at its price. Yours sounded great, too, especially when you dropped down into DADGAD. Quite a rumble to it. Thanks for the nice review!
Thankyou. I am still very keen on the Yamaha. It has lovely overtones, strong bass as you would expect from a dreadnought sized body and so far has been very stable here in humid Sydney.
Sounds quite good. I have a used LL6M ARE that I love. I'm going to have a setup done at some point.
The 6 series do sound very good too. Same quality solid top and construction as the 16 series. Yamaha redesigned their bracing for these guitars and they sound really good 👍
It sounds absolutely beautiful, and nice playing too, kind regards Don 😊
Many thanks!
I have a Crafter that is exactly the same as the Yamaha, lovely guitars. 💓🎸.
Hi, it does have the five piece neck, but the wood is almost the same colour, so it doesn’t show in the video. It is unusual that it is not the 2 darker strips.
Thanks for sharing your experience with great comments....yes I love Yamaha guitars and in fact I also have a Yamaha piano which is so well made .....not sure where to buy the LL16 model in Melbourne as most stores don't have them in stock.... cheers 🦘🦘😀
My pleasure! They are great value and judging by the popularity of this video and other reviews, they are popular. I hope one turns up soon in Melbourne and you can try it.
Billy Hyde in melbourne have these in stock...
@@Wobbz9413 thankyou...🙂
У вас есть майтон, зачем вам ямаха.?
I am thinking about getting the LL16 but there is none to found locally. I don't like buying acoustics online and don't like shipping back if it doesn't work out. I found a used one online in Tennessee, so I am just staring at it online. If I get the LL16 it will complete my acoustic lineup. Dreadnaught Guild d50 and smaller body Yamaha AC3M DLX are my other two main acoustics. I have two lower end guitars and they both sound lower end, no love lost there.
I have bought guitars online and I like to see a photo of the saddle height and a measurement of the action at the 12th fret. If those things are OK I will take a punt. Did you end up getting an LL16?
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel Haven't bought the LL16. Those photos are a good idea. There is no rush to buy. I am a bit curious about the rosewood vs. mahogany difference. Does it really matter all that much?
Yamaha has really picked up their game with their guitars now which is one reason I turned a friend on to this model in particular. For it's price point, it's a great sounding guitar, and you get Yamaha's attention to quality, and details.
100% agree. I ignored Yamahas for decades, but since they changed their bracing, the got really good. This LL16 stacks up against more expensive guitars for tone and volume, and refinement imho.
Yes indeed,Don here from Hamilton NZ on my Wife's tablet-SUSAN, I bought a second hand LJX6C about 7 weeks ago, I googled the series first, because I had NO Idea of these series, as in my 55 years of playing acoustic guitar's I'd Never Ever seen these before, mine had a Small amount of damage, got that fixed & WOW, such a Quality sound, so I would Imagine your guitar would be another step up again, and thanks for the video 😊😊😊
Yamaha have made these higher end models for many years. Have always been among the best makers. Just a strange bias against them implying that they are just cheap intro level instruments. Just ignorance, I think. Anyway, just my two cents. People will form opinions, and I really dont much care. I love my Yammies, and thats all...lol.
Beautiful sounding guitar. If you change out the bridge pins to say bone, it'll sound. even better.
I might try bone pins, as the Engelmann could handle the zing. Whereas ebony pins are more mellow.
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel Yeah i agree, Ebony pins do have a more mellow sound to them.
Very good demonstration! Where is this Yamaha guitar made? In Japan or China?
Thankyou! The LL16 series are made in China. The higher number LL guitars are made in Japan. I have never played a Japanese one, apparently they are more hand made, like a custom shop.
Здравствуйте, что на Ваш взгляд предпочтительнее будет под вокал ymaha LL- 16,ll-16m или FG-3. лучше будет взять.
Hi as they are all similar large body size I think they would all be similar for vocal accompaniment. It would be a case of which tone you prefer. Maybe think about trying smaller body sizes to see if those sit better with your voice. All the best from Australia 👋🇦🇺
👍👌🆗, спасибо,привет из России.
Not sure why they don't use a real bone nut and saddle? I have all wood spruce / Mahogany guild D140 CE westerly edition retail $900 and has Bone but I really like Yamahas very well made instruments. So much to choose from now with Epiphone making great acoustics as well. I want them all!
Hi, yes, I wouldn’t have thought it would cost Yamaha much more to use a bone nut and saddle. I have been buying cheap bone saddles from China for years now through eBay. I also agree the quality all solid wood guitars available at the moment for under US$1000 are amazing. The Epiphone inspired by Gibson Indonesian guitars are really nice. I also like the Guild GADs and more recent Waverley Collection. But the newish Yamaha is my current favourite, displacing my Eastman E3 and E10D. I do wonder if this era of cheap high quality guitars will last?
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel agree bone nut and saddle are cheap now to get -Eastman are great and really like them . I did purchase a used Zager zad50 and really like it a quality instrument. I was going to pull the trigger on the Yamaha LL16 in black . Cant buy them all !
@@beableishwell, not all at once 😂
I’ve tried bone and tusq in my ll16m and the urea saddle was better so I went back to the uretha plastic. Yamaha to my ear is using it for a reason because it straight up works. It’s a very dense plastic like tusq but it’s very brittle. Problem with bone is a single piece of bone saddle will vary in density throughout the saddle more porous in some areas less porous in others. I’ve noticed with the uretha all the pressed notes in a chord ring with more authority more than the bone saddles I tried and the tusq in me ll16m produced to much highs. The uretha also makes the tone in mine more balanced with plenty of low end bass. Seems smoother for strumming as well it’s a very very smooth strummer to say the least with the uretha
interesting !@@philipdeppen3189
That was very interesting it's saddĺe being as lose as it was (quality control??) Yes even the best of guitar maker's slip up sometimes, & its a simply fix, which is why I make & fit these myself if necessary & before I buy I always check them first, if there's a problem there I Always ask for a discount or the store can fix it for you, Otherwise....?
Thanks for your comment. I also keep a supply of saddles and tweak them myself. I did wonder if the loose fit was on purpose with this Yamaha? In any case I replaced it with bone and it fit a bit more tightly.
That is a long scale length... I guess it's suited to altered tunings....
Yes, Martin D28 is 25.4” vs 25 9/16 on the Yamaha. It’s confusing that Martin mix decimal and imperial in their measure. 1/10 inch is 2.54mm, plus the extra 1/64” is .397mm, so that makes the Yamaha just a fraction under 3mm longer.
What is better ls6 or ls16
Hi, the LS16 is better as it has solid rosewood back and sides, the LS6 has laminated back and sides.
The higher the number in the L series the higher the quality and materials.
How does the ll16 compare to the Eastman e3de
Hi Justin. The E3DE has not had much time out of the case since I got the Yamaha. I will do a comparison video. Stay posted!
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel thank you Sir for the comparison video. I have an E3DE just swapped out the bridge pins for bone ones it sound better to me now.
What do you think about ls16?
Well firstly I think about the LS16 a lot. I almost bought one at my local music shop soon after I got the LL. It was lovely and loud for a small body guitar. The body is actually quite deep. Anyway, I went back a week later and it was sold. I then discovered it was bought by my guitar buddy Chris who did the humidity video with me!
I think the LS16 would be great for recording, where you generally want to remove that extra bass anyway.
I just ordered one today. Thanks You for your help
Hi, Yes sorry for being greedy! I now own the LL16 in burst and the Ls16 in natural. They are amazing guitars - I am happy to bring the Ls16 around sometime if you want to do a comparison video for your channel (it's guitar buddy Chris using my dodgy youtube handle ;)
Perché non ha il manico a 5 strati???
Hi, yes my guitar has 5 piece neck, but the colour is almost identical, they did not use the darker wood on my one.
thank you very much for the reply Of course I understood I didn't think it was a different series or one of the first, I was very happy I bought two of them from LS 16 and the l l 16 d
yeh its a good sounding guitar man might get it👌 but it just had a bit too fat neck for my feel fk great sounding guitar
The LL16 has 1 3/4 inch nut and not super slim, but I don’t feel it is chunky. I think you would like the Blueridge neck, that is the slimmest neck I ever had on an acoustic. Good luck finding a guitar!