Do Soundproofing Materials Really Live up to the Hype? $40 DIY Sound Test

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • Ever been confused by the number of soundproofing options available? Ever wonder if expensive products hold up to the hype? Ever wonder if there are more affordable alternatives available?
    In this video, you'll see how several different sound dampening materials compare side by side, and how to conduct a sound experiment at home yourself for less than $40. All you need is a laptop, the materials you want to test and:
    BLUETOOTH SPEAKER
    amazon.com/dp/B07PJZRJ8X/ref=...
    4 CONCRETE BLOCKS
    www.lowes.com/pd/Cap-Concrete...
    SPRAY FOAM
    www.amazon.com/dp/B07GLG7B3Z/...
    FOAM TAPE
    amazon.com/dp/B08XKB7K3G/ref=...
    In this video we test concrete blocks, R-13 Insulation, Rockwool Safe n' Sound Insulation, 1/8" mass loaded vinyl, charcoal, carpet glue, outdoor carpet, Green Glue, 5/8" Type "X" drywall, and 3/4” MDF.
    LINKS:
    TONE GENERATOR
    www.szynalski.com/tone-genera...
    GREEN GLUE
    www.greengluecompany.com/
    MASS LOADED VINYL
    amazon.com/gp/product/B087WV5...
    ACOUSTIC FIELDS CARBON ABSORBERS
    www.acousticfields.com/shopping/
    ACOUSTIC FIELDS CHANNEL (DENNIS FOLEY)
    / acousticfields
    00:00 - Intro
    1:14 - Testing Method
    6:42 - Testing Materials
    14:30 - Findings
    16:05 - Final Thoughts
    Don't forget to hit "Like" and "Subscribe" to keep up with JOAM!
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  • @trenthorton9532
    @trenthorton9532 Před rokem +65

    I've spent probably close to 10 hours online trying to figure out cost-effective DIY methods for sound reduction from our basement and this is by far the most helpful video I've come across. Thank you.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem +8

      You’re welcome! That while searching for hours process you’re talking about is exactly what inspired the video. Glad it could help!

    • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
      @nonyadamnbusiness9887 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Two layers of sheetrock of different thicknesses.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 11 měsíci +1

      @nonyadamnbusiness9887 interesting thought. Obviously the assumption is the more mass the better, but perhaps the different thicknesses and densities would affect frequencies differently.

    • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
      @nonyadamnbusiness9887 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@JackofAllMinistries More mass is always better. But with layers it's better if they are different. High end window makers sandwich two different thicknesses of glass to reduce sound transmission.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 11 měsíci

      @@nonyadamnbusiness9887 Good to know!

  • @jaimslaw
    @jaimslaw Před rokem +3

    Apartment owner here trying to reduce sound between adjacent units (back to back bedrooms/bathrooms). This 1953 apt has rockrool as soundproofing material. Looks like in 70 years time, not much soundproofing advancements. My biggest takeway from this video may be the importance of “leakage” (ie, addressing poor/shoddy insul. install). Your vid was inspiring in many respects. Oh yeah, get yourself an agent …and monetize your impressive narrative skills.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      LOL thanks so much - definitely a first on the narration compliment!
      Yeah, mass is mass. I’m always thinking about possible replacements. Stuff that’s cost effective but works. Maybe some genius will think of something someday, but until then, it’s all Rockwool and MLV.

  • @tanialimacosta
    @tanialimacosta Před 2 lety +1

    Simply the best video on the subject I have seen!!! Thank you so much!

  • @almnk
    @almnk Před 2 lety +41

    Thank you a lot for sharing it, I wouldn't have done it more scientifically. Probably, best recommended video on the subject so far.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +4

      Wow, thanks so much! I definitely think the test served my purposes and that's all I could hope for. I know not everyone sees it that way and I'm okay with that. Thanks so much for the kind words!

  • @joejtunes
    @joejtunes Před rokem +24

    Damn good video! Thanks for demonstrating way cheaper ways to do it, and including the reality check that no matter what you do the results won’t be perfect, so lower your expectations. You deserve way more channel support than you have, so I just subscribed. Thanks for such valuable content!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem +2

      Thanks so much for the compliment and the subscription! I’m doing my best, and hoping I can keep decent content coming your way.

  • @levtauber9582
    @levtauber9582 Před rokem +2

    Very comprehensive and helpful video...NO BS just the straight facts! Well Done!

  • @thefuzzman9833
    @thefuzzman9833 Před 2 lety +3

    There you go, 200 subscribers for you, your information and delivery is fantastic, you need to get out there. Thanks for the info! I was actually looking at ways to make an enclosure for a generator and came across your site. Haven't decided which way to go but i am definitely in a better position to plan.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks so much for the compliment and for subscribing! I'm working on it and I feel like I'll get there eventually!

  • @kroneditor9266
    @kroneditor9266 Před rokem

    Excellent video and thanks for taking the time to produce and share it. Very interesting findings which I can incorporate in my own noise reduction projects - Cheers from the UK!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching, even across the lake! So glad I could help, even if it’s just a little.

  • @asencyel
    @asencyel Před rokem +1

    such an amazing work, kudos to you. not leaving a single detail behind when it comes to sound cancellation as well as absorption

  • @thevainestknives4843
    @thevainestknives4843 Před rokem +1

    Really glad I found your video. I'm about to finish my garage for a rehearsal space and was considering all kinds of expensive soundproofing materials.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Glad I could help! It’s a very easy thing to waste money on for sure.

  • @shifterverse
    @shifterverse Před rokem +3

    Fantastic video, appreciate the non biased approach and the admittance of possibly compromised results! So many "miracle" products out there and the truth is it always comes down to 2 things, find the source of primary transmission and then put as much mass between the 2 as you can.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Thanks so much! You’re right, so many things promise to be the ultimate cure, so I think a little honest God a long way. Thanks for watching!

  • @chris-C8
    @chris-C8 Před rokem +5

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video. It was very informative. The studio/audio world is filled with so much marketing hype that it sometimes gets confusing/annoying to navigate.

  • @liborlepka4240
    @liborlepka4240 Před rokem +2

    For a non-laboratory test, this is absolutely amazing and detailed. You saved me a lot of money for green glue. Thank you.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      You’re welcome! If I can save you money I feel like it was worth the experiment!

  • @JasonRigden
    @JasonRigden Před 2 lety

    Wow! Awesome work. We need more folks on here testing the woo of these products.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! I agree, it was so hard to find something like that and that's actually why I ended up making it!

  • @carthoughtswithdan
    @carthoughtswithdan Před 10 měsíci

    Im following purley becuse of how thorough and informative you are! No fluff just pure info

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for following! I’ll try to keep the good, accurate info coming.

  • @dimchohvarchilkov683
    @dimchohvarchilkov683 Před 2 lety

    Excellent approach for actually demonstrating the performance of all these insulations! That is the way these videos shohld be made. Great and useful. Thank you!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for the encouragement! Just trying to help a brother out in figuring out some of this often confusing information!

  • @MichaelBrown-vq4fd
    @MichaelBrown-vq4fd Před 2 lety +1

    This was very helpful and well presented. Thank you Sir for the info and effort you put into this.

  • @HappyTyke25
    @HappyTyke25 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for all your hard work, some very useful information and tips contained in your video, I recently did a wall between my son and daughters bedrooms, and used regular decorators caulk instead of the the green glue, now ive done no testing but I wouldn't think the difference is that significant between the 2 products, but the cost is definitely less. For me it's more about sealing any little air gaps that may leak sound.
    You're absolutely right though it's the lower frequencies ie the bass that is much harder to stop.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for the encouragement! The biggest question I have about using caulk is the longevity after it dries. I know GG stays soft, but I wonder how much of the reduction comes from sound passing through different materials in layers like Quietrock. I'd bet that's exactly what regular caulking would achieve at a much lower cost. Even if GG is better, I still can't imagine it would be worth the money.
      As for the lows, if it really must be dampened drywall just isn't the way to go. I wish I would have tried my hand with concrete or something like that, although that would never be practical in a bedroom!

  • @AndSendMe
    @AndSendMe Před 2 lety

    Thanks for putting this work in. Very helpful!

  • @darkomijic
    @darkomijic Před 2 lety

    Really appriciate the work you did here! Thanks!

  • @sfkeepay
    @sfkeepay Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing all this work. Very illuminating, and above all, useful.

  • @chrisfuller869
    @chrisfuller869 Před 2 lety +17

    This was great. I was shocked to see that you only had 140 subscribers so I clicked the button for you.
    Really wish you tested cork (comes in various densities - they have a high density products for anti vibration but even medium density products intended for use as exterior wall siding claim a 50db reduction per inch!). Thermacork is a US distributor of some products, but I think it all comes from "Amorim" in Portugal.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks so much! Honestly just got the channel off the ground, but I'm more excited to share the info than to get monetized.
      I've heard a lot of suggestions for different materials so I think I'm going to post a follow up video. Cork is one thing that never crossed my mind, but it makes sense. If I get that video going I'll give it shot!

    • @Nala15-Artist
      @Nala15-Artist Před rokem

      Portual is pretty much the only place where cork oaks grow, that's why cork usually comes from there.

  • @elsantoproductora
    @elsantoproductora Před rokem

    Massive work my friend! thanks for the effort and the awesome video.

  • @patrickevans6712
    @patrickevans6712 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for this data. You and a few others were extremely helpful and I begin my build today.
    My mission is to quiet a shop vac, for which I will make a concrete-lined enclosure that I’ll roll to outside my garage during use.

  • @papahansel3136
    @papahansel3136 Před měsícem

    I really appreciated and enjoyed your logic and reasoning. Thanks for the effort.

  • @briansegall1084
    @briansegall1084 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for all the effort putting this video together. I'm researching soundproofing and your results are very useful! I'm trying to soundproof between floors of my house, and my current thinking is to use R20 insulation (fiberglass), resilient channel, Sonopan and 5/8 drywall. That ought to be enough to significantly reduce impact noise and ambient noise.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Although every application is different, it sounds like you have a solid plan together to me! I hope you get to enjoy many quiet days and nights when your project is done!

  • @johnfrith7884
    @johnfrith7884 Před rokem

    Thank you for this video it’s definitely helping me out with my build

  • @byronjones5713
    @byronjones5713 Před 2 lety +4

    Best sound proofing video I've found. Building a house and was wondering if I needed more than r-13 batt insulation on the inside walls. Sounds like that is well more than enough. I love you scientific approach to it and removing all of the marketing fluff. Thank you!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      Thanks so much for watching and got the compliments! From everything I’ve read, R13 is better for soundproofing than higher R ratings. The one caveat I’ve never checked into is whether or not that rings true at lower frequencies. I only know that to be true in the STC scale which doesn’t go very low.

  • @SteveStockmalMusic
    @SteveStockmalMusic Před 2 lety

    Great job !!!!!!!!!
    Super impressed with your approach on every level. 👍😊👍

  • @repalmore
    @repalmore Před 2 lety

    FINALLY!!!! Someone who paid attention in high school science class. Laws of conservation of energy is such a simple idea. Energy never goes away. Just does somewhere else in a different form. Super simple. Thank you.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      LOL thanks so much for the compliment. And you're right, I paid attention in high school science. Until I got into chemistry anyway...

  • @Lou.B
    @Lou.B Před rokem

    EXCELLENT methodology!!! Thanks!

  • @jayhounds346
    @jayhounds346 Před rokem +3

    My experience with Rockwool safe and sound in interior walls is actually quite positive. We just built a house and, without yet seeing legit comparisons to R13, I installed it before the drywallers put up 1/2" sheetrock. We went with rockwool due to the small difference in sound reduction over R13 plus the added fire resistance.
    We have a subwoofer on the floor an inch away from the living room wall, adjoining the master bathroom. With the volume up relatively high, I can hear from the bathroom that the TV and subwoofer are on but it is VERY diminished - even loud booms from action scenes are barely audible. Im very happy with it. With these results, I do not regret the extra cost. I wish I had a real-world, in-person comparison with R13 though. (Or maybe I dont - so i dont begin to regret the more expensive option!)
    I still lean toward the safe n sound for the floor joists now that I am planning for finishing our basement. The added fire protection alone will justify the cost, in my mind but also, as you speculated, hoping the extra density of the rockwool helps reduce impact noise.
    Thanks to your tests, I now plan on using carpet glue on the floor joists as well as between 2 layers of 5/8" drywall. Im hoping that carpet glue applied to the floor joists has similar results as layering it between drywall sheets as well as somewhat decoupling areas between drywall screws. Thoughts on that?
    Thanks a bunch for sharing your results!!!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem +1

      I’m glad Rockwool has worked so well! I have to admit, even though my research and my own testing show R-13 to be equal, Rockwool still FEELS like it should work way better! One thing I’d like to test specifically is the low frequency dampening. A video for another day…
      As for your carpet glue on the joists idea, my two cents would be that I would bet you get some good results in the decoupling arena, but that you would find much better results with resilient channel or even UltraTouch+ Sound Absorption Strips. They’re like strips of carpet padding that you glue on to the joists. The reason I think that it because the separation is more mechanical then, and the main use for Green Glue/ carpet glue is constrained later damping which wouldn’t matter on the joists.
      Just my own thoughts! Good luck with your project!

    • @jayhounds346
      @jayhounds346 Před rokem

      @@JackofAllMinistries I was not aware of the UltraTouch+ strips! Thank you! I will look into those. It makes me want to consider whether combining your carpet idea with carpet glue to the joists would be cheaper also. Hmmm.. I havr more rabbit holes to follow.
      Thanks again!

  • @vickigreene4288
    @vickigreene4288 Před rokem

    Wow! Fantastic information. Thank you for doing all that!

  • @rwheatoniv
    @rwheatoniv Před 2 lety

    Absolutely brilliant. Love your videos.

  • @LRN2DIY
    @LRN2DIY Před 11 měsíci

    You did a fantastic job on this video, my friend. I have a home theater in the basement and this kind of thing has been on mind whenever I help people finish rooms or work on things in our home. You've inspired me to take this to the next level on my channel so I've already started ordering all the materials and will be sure to link to your video when mine is ready. Again, great job on this video and your channel in general. All the best!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thanks so much! I’m so glad I could help a fellow DIY creator. I’ve actually watched lots of your videos and they’ve been super helpful to me. I specifically enjoyed the weird green “hammer” video. I actually considered buying one and your video helped me make a good decision LOL!
      I’ll look forward to seeing what you do with the soundproofing stuff and giving me a chance to learn a few more things. Hope everything goes well!

  • @Rod-Wheeler
    @Rod-Wheeler Před 2 lety

    Great stuff! Subscribed!
    Building my own vocal booth for voiceover. This is like gold! Thanks again!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      You’re very welcome! I hope the vocal booth comes out amazing. Glad I could help!

  • @appleraika
    @appleraika Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for this. Extremely helpful ♡

  • @specialkonacid6574
    @specialkonacid6574 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you so much for this video. Very helpful 😀

  • @russellsanders9004
    @russellsanders9004 Před rokem

    Very helpful information, thank you for your research and video.

  • @MsgrTeves
    @MsgrTeves Před rokem

    Well done sir! You are a borderline genius!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Thanks, borderline is a little generous though… more like faintly approaching!

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin95 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video man! Thanks for posting. 🤙

  • @MikeSilverFAKM
    @MikeSilverFAKM Před 8 měsíci

    Excellent video brother, thankyou.

  • @MikeFaucher
    @MikeFaucher Před 6 měsíci

    Nice video and thanks for doing the testing!

  • @danielgorosito6329
    @danielgorosito6329 Před rokem

    Very great experimentation to compare frequencies.

  • @stephenchow5161
    @stephenchow5161 Před rokem

    such a great video
    thanks for you well designed project.

  • @coqui8861
    @coqui8861 Před rokem

    This video is very very very helpful Thanks

  • @fzane14
    @fzane14 Před 7 měsíci

    Very interesting video, quite an eye opener. Thank you for sharing this information. I thoroughly enjoyed your quest for truth

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 7 měsíci

      Glad you enjoyed it! Hopefully I'll be doing a follow up not too far into the future.

  • @simontompkins301
    @simontompkins301 Před rokem

    superb, stuffed full of great information so well presented- bravo

  • @MadLadsAnonymous
    @MadLadsAnonymous Před 8 měsíci

    Great video!
    For our walls I'm planning on eventually going with Rockwool plus MLV (2 lb), whisper clips, dual Sonopan layers, then drywall/plywood/CLT with another layer of MLV glued behind it.

  • @blanjahape530
    @blanjahape530 Před 2 lety

    Thank you, your video very helping me to understand soundproof

  • @ReAnnRing
    @ReAnnRing Před rokem

    This is excellent! Love the doggy :)

  • @Jason98904
    @Jason98904 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hard data and excellent analysis... by far the best info on this topic I've seen. The R-13 and carpet glue results in particular saved me a lot of pointless expense. Thank you!!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Glad I could help!

    • @KP-DID
      @KP-DID Před měsícem

      Jason you tried the R13 and carpet glue combo? how did it turn out? Im starting my build tomorrow and can no longer afford GG or MLV. cheers!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před měsícem

      @KP-DID I’m happy with the way everything turned out. Not perfect for low frequencies at 95dB, but I couldn’t decouple the way I wanted to. I have no regrets.

    • @Jason98904
      @Jason98904 Před měsícem

      @@KP-DID it worked well. I would note however any approach will struggle on lower frequencies so set your expectations accordingly. To handle a low rumbling motorcycle, say, you simply need a LOT of mass. Like a massively thick wall of concrete amount of mass. Anything is still better than nothing tho...

  • @kurthermann3482
    @kurthermann3482 Před rokem

    Thank you! Thank You! Thank You! Very well done video. I am getting ready to finish a detached 24x24 pole barn garage on a slab and make it a drum studio. I wanted to try to sound proof it, but realized quickly that it wasn't going to happen due to the size of the space and my budget. This helps a lot. I think I am going to do a double layer of 5/8" drywall with staggered seams and put the carpet glue between it. I was gonna use rockwool but I think I might just use R13 now. I know there is a company that makes heavy blankets you can hang. I think I might devise some sort of a system where I can roll it up when it isn't needed but then roll it down in front of the door for additional coverage. The money I save, I'll likely put into actual recording equipment, acoustic treatment ect. Thanks again!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Jealous of how much room you’ll have for your studio! I think you’re right, it would be a tall order to soundproof it, but in separate building you’ll probably be okay. Enjoy that extra money and gear!

  • @quito484
    @quito484 Před 2 lety

    Great video very educational thanks for the tip mister 👍

  • @mddleman
    @mddleman Před 2 lety

    I want to reduce noise from my movie/ music in basement to the living room above, so this is very helpful!

  • @sigmund1955
    @sigmund1955 Před rokem

    Very informative, Thank you

  • @Blackcreekstudios
    @Blackcreekstudios Před rokem

    Thanks. I agree with you about all the hype. It is all about mass, decoupling and being airtight. However if you are tuning a room for sound the frequency absorption is critical for different materials.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem +1

      Absolutely, two different approaches for sure. If you don’t know what you’re trying to achieve and what you’re not, there is a huge chance for disappointment.

  • @carlos.coronado
    @carlos.coronado Před 2 lety

    thanks for sharing this, i will try this soon!

  • @daveinch8781
    @daveinch8781 Před rokem

    Glad i found this vid - Just in the planning stages of a sound proof drum room & green glue costs a fortune here in Australia. Too much to even think about using it. I'll be using the carpet glue - Thank you ! subscribed....

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Thanks so much! Glad I could help. Just remember whatever carpet glue you use that is the type that will stay tacky. Good luck!

  • @benjaminpeternorris
    @benjaminpeternorris Před 2 lety +4

    Great video!! - I loved how you showed your test methodology - and even though it may not have lived up to exact scientific rigour, I thought it was a pretty good indicator of real world performance. (I've got to be honest though, I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't test egg boxes stuck to a sheet of drywall though - that would have been entertaining!!).

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks so much! Real world usage was definitely the spirit I was after. I like the egg carton idea... Maybe I'll check that out when I make a follow up video!

  • @unusualmuse
    @unusualmuse Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hooray for science! Great video. I’d be really curious to see one of the QuietRock drywall products included, to see how it really compares to the regular stuff.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yep, lots of people have mentioned the QuietRock to me. I plan to expand the test someday and post a new video - I can’t imagine I wouldn’t try that out…

  • @samvouga
    @samvouga Před rokem

    man you have patience... Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @rongti5543
    @rongti5543 Před rokem

    Great! very helpful. Subscribed.

  • @rachelkarengreen99
    @rachelkarengreen99 Před 2 lety

    Insane and informative video!! Bravo

  • @zwuuuuu
    @zwuuuuu Před rokem

    thanks for sharing. this is v useful for the community

  • @gabortudos7461
    @gabortudos7461 Před rokem

    Thank you for your work sir

  • @johndunn5322
    @johndunn5322 Před rokem

    I never comment on you tube videos but excellent demonstration my brother👏Great information for my current project

  • @maryd253
    @maryd253 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for this informative video

  • @813king
    @813king Před rokem

    This helps out. Thanks

  • @superconnie5003
    @superconnie5003 Před 2 lety

    Bro luv your style! the testing rig!

  • @rivierarenovation06
    @rivierarenovation06 Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks for sharing your testing, nice job!
    With respect to the test setup, I think it would be better to have your sound-level meter suspended (e.g., on an elastic string) above your test material, while making sure to have the same distance from the material (adapting for the thickness of the material). At one point it seemed that you were measuring via a gap in the weighting blocks but not directly in front of the material.
    Another improvement, IMHO, would be to make the cavity (containing the speaker) bigger, ideally mimicking the separation of your studs (or other anchor points). This would better reflect how the material behaves when mounted on the wall.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks for the suggestions! I'll probably be doing a follow up sometime, and I've already thought of a bigger cavity. I hadn't thought of suspending the db meter though. I noticed that it wasn't always in the same spot and that likely affected the results.

  • @stefanscally4449
    @stefanscally4449 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks so much for the video. So many small bar businesses are struggling because they can't make good music events without the neighbors calling the law. But they don't make a lot of money so if there's a cheap way to effectively soundproof... would really help a lot of artists and communities. It's never been made clear to me how much can be done. Thanks for the info!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 9 měsíci

      Glad I can help. Sad to say noise pollution will be an issue that probably only gets worse until a really great (and cheap) product can be discovered.

  • @retsub3
    @retsub3 Před 2 lety

    16:46 "How dare you?" Woof.
    Really loved your testing and straight talk! Def saving for future reference 🤙

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +1

      She seemed so confused when I filmed her too! Thanks for watching, hope it was helpful!

  • @tims.2832
    @tims.2832 Před rokem

    Thx for these unbiased tests. I always felt like the "basic" products already take you 85% of the way, the fancy special products with triple the price only add a few percent more. That´s probably the same everywhere with all products, perhaps they teach this as a business model in general business classes.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem +1

      That makes sense to me! For me, most high end things aren’t worth the modest quality increase for the enormous extra cost.

  • @FellUpAndDown
    @FellUpAndDown Před 2 lety +2

    I've been looking into a "noisy neighbour" situation and prepping ready. I'm cutting corners (no money), so I'm going to be sticking up some MLV direct onto plaster, but stuck up with specialist acoustic adhesive (Everflex AC50). It's cheap and hopefully will separate the MLV from the plaster.
    Over the top of that, I'll be putting some 2mm Thermal by wallrock, then painting.
    It's an old 1930's house, so anything really to help on the party wall.
    To get to the point, your information has been invaluable. I'll come back after I've done this to let people know.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      So glad to hear that! I'd love to hear how it all works out. Getting what you want done without spending a lot of money is what I'm all about!

    • @e.climan1329
      @e.climan1329 Před rokem +1

      I have the same problem. Did your method work? Thanks

  • @MichaelTanMusic
    @MichaelTanMusic Před rokem +1

    what i love most about this video is that you thoroughly recognise your own limitations while doing actual real-world tests. it's so painful to sort through every self-professed expert that just asserts things with no explanation of where the data came from.
    The one thing I would still love to see is the effect of a larger air gap between materials, again, lots of "experts" but hard to find any real world apples-to-apples tests.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Thanks! I definitely try to recognize my own limitations while still doing meaningful work.
      I’d love to do an air gap test - although that might be a challenge with my limited resources. Maybe I could find some creative solution…

  • @BoldWittyName
    @BoldWittyName Před rokem +4

    Great vid! I would add that [according to other sources] 5/8" drywall is a big improvement over 1/2" drywall due to there being embedded fibers in the 5/8".

    • @BoldWittyName
      @BoldWittyName Před rokem

      I finished my basement rec room with 5/8" drywall, but I don't have a second basement rec room with half inch drywall for a control group. 🤣

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem +1

      I can say from experience that is definitely true, but I never realized it was the fibers. It didn’t even register that there weren’t fibers in 1/2”!

  • @paradisedreamland3
    @paradisedreamland3 Před měsícem

    huge amount of tedious work on this video. probably best and concise video on the matter. thanks a lot !

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před měsícem

      Thanks so much for the compliment! I had a lot of fun doing that one.

  • @robertgunther3080
    @robertgunther3080 Před 2 lety

    Love this! I have never tried green glue, but always have suspected the bang for buck would just not be worth it.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      Thanks so much! That suspicion is exactly what drove me to test it myself. Bang for buck is exactly the issue.

  • @kylesmcleod
    @kylesmcleod Před rokem

    This is top notch quality content.

  • @rvanbeau2009
    @rvanbeau2009 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent summary

  • @soundproofyourstudio
    @soundproofyourstudio Před 2 lety

    Interesting! Really dig it.

  • @arinasan247
    @arinasan247 Před rokem

    Awsome work!!!

  • @jeffp5991
    @jeffp5991 Před 2 měsíci

    This was really helpful! Being able to sift through the hype of some of the high priced products that really don't do much is great. Although thinking about someone remodeling my house 30 years from now finding green slime between layers of sheetrock is a bit amusing. 😅

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 měsíci

      Glad I could help! I’m all about eliminating the hype and saving a dollar!

  • @babixillo
    @babixillo Před rokem +1

    very cool and informative! i wish you tested triple drywall to see how 1 added sheet of drywall compares to added mlv, rockwool or r13

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Now I do too! I’ve heard every additional sheet gives roughly half the results of the previous sheet, maybe that helps give an idea?

  • @brandoncrapo7434
    @brandoncrapo7434 Před 10 měsíci

    What a great video! Thank you. It's very helpful.
    When you utilized the carpet glue in your actual project, did you spread it uniformly across the drywall sheets, or did you make a box around the perimeter and then add some lattice lines to make air pockets?

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks so much! Glad it could help.
      I spread it evenly. Turns out the air gaps aren’t the helpful bit. It’s about layers with differing mass together - it’s a principle called “constrained layer damping.”

  • @Haroldus0
    @Haroldus0 Před 2 lety +2

    You are on the right track with the experiment but to do this properly you need to have a larger space for the speaker to develop low frequencies. One way to do this is to mount the test microphone in a suitable concrete box with the lid being the test subject, and have the test tones or sweep run through a 'known good' loudspeaker system, and do the test outside in a quiet moment. This can approximate to an infinite baffle, removing any room mode non linearity. We did this years ago for a range of really high end PA speakers and then sent the units to JBL for official anechoic chamber tests and the results were remarkably similar, though about 1% of the price!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +2

      Your infinite baffle idea is genius! I was trying to stay away from sweeps originally because I wanted to make a test that was easily doable for someone with no knowledge of room measurement. That's why I used a tone generator. However, I've been thinking about doing a next level type test, much like the one you mentioned. I was worried about low frequency development because I didn't want to make a 12 foot concrete box to test 50Hz, but I love the idea of using your baffle to get a read without modes and calculate the difference!

  • @freddie5475
    @freddie5475 Před rokem +3

    Rockwool works great if you build a decoupled wooden frame, do not join the frame to your wall. I put carpet, two layers of foam then a decoupled frame with 50mm rockwool and 12.5mm soundblock plasterboard, 95% of noise gone

  • @daithic6187
    @daithic6187 Před 2 lety

    Great video, thanks

  • @pedronudie4311
    @pedronudie4311 Před 2 měsíci

    Amazing work ! I’ve been looking to better soundproof my Parisian flat and so far MLV (Tecsound) with Fermacell sheet seems to be the best efficiency to thickness ratio. In my research the thickness is a key factor taking into account the value of each square meter in my arrondissement (i.e. district). Again thank you for the comprehensive testing. Take care !

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 měsíci

      Paris is an amazing city! I was lucky enough to go during the Euro Cup a few years ago when Iceland was there. I wasn’t there for the match, but there was a fun soccer vibe going on. Must be fun to work in soundproofing with Parisian architecture. Hope everything works out well!

  • @AmazingPhilippines1
    @AmazingPhilippines1 Před 11 měsíci

    Interesting test setup. I was in the "noise control" business in the SW USA for some years dealing with commercial AC chillers majority of the time. Low frequency is a bear to deal with. MLV/fiberglass "blankets" sewn to cover the offending equipment or enclosures were often the solution. MLV has the advantage of being relatively thin. Test data is important but I also learned to use "what works" depending on the budget. All test setups have their limitations when applied to the real world but important data non the less.
    I am now living in the Philippines where low frequencies from regular "fiestas" until 4AM are a major noise issue. Add in loud motorbikes, barking dogs, roosters, and karaoke....but it is more fun in the Philippines. LOL!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 11 měsíci

      Interesting that blankets were the best solution. I mean, obviously you’re not going to built concrete enclosures, but still. I think it all lands like you said, in a balance of cost and efficiency. Too bad you can’t sleep under one of those blankets in the Philippines! Sounds like auto-insomnia to me…

  • @Lughnerson
    @Lughnerson Před 2 lety +4

    I think what is effective is a) filling any gaps, and b) using multiple layers of different densities at any intersection: top, bottom, and sides. I used simple tar paper in my car trunk and it worked enough to notice. A bit better is still better than the same.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +1

      Great point!

    • @luct3368
      @luct3368 Před 2 lety +2

      have you seen those acrylic caulking mist sprayers where they pressurize the builing and the airbourne caulk clogs any gaps in the building fabric.
      If gap filling, or air sealing is effective, it would be fascinating to see how effective, just doing this with no other further sound insulation would be.

  • @TheFarSideOfNj
    @TheFarSideOfNj Před rokem

    Thanks a lot for the video! Subscribed, I'm building out a studio and this is helpful.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem +1

      You’re welcome! Glad I could help. I know drums are a beast to isolate, and I wish you luck!

    • @TheFarSideOfNj
      @TheFarSideOfNj Před rokem

      @@JackofAllMinistries yeah man, mostly vibes and marimba and trying to keeping out of the space. Those instruments are an absolute pain to mic correctly.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      @@TheFarSideOfNj Never done it! Sounds like a fun challenge though!

  • @pauldoan8391
    @pauldoan8391 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much

  • @hankhulator5007
    @hankhulator5007 Před rokem

    Hi, a rational and scientific approach of the problem is something I'd love to see everywhere, but unfortunately it is not the case, too bad for others ;-)

  • @kathleendavis2008
    @kathleendavis2008 Před rokem +1

    Hahaha ..I can't believe it...I do believe it! I couldn't find the green stuff, just used fire rated plumber stuff and used carpet glue elsewhere. Rockwool and fire rated drywall was also part of our equation. We will find out if it works when the Aunt on the other side of the wall no longer knows our business!!

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před rokem

      Awesome! I hope it turns out so great that you start to miss your old conversations through the wall…

  • @rogerq7369
    @rogerq7369 Před rokem

    Great video. Thank you :-)

  • @cristianmoisei9689
    @cristianmoisei9689 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks a lot for sharing your process and findings. Navigating the competing claims from all the companies in the market is a minefield so it's very helpful to see an objective analysis. Do you think any high density material will deliver good results, even if it's not concrete? Here in Romania the most popular product seems to be a kind of very dense sponge and textile panel (it weighs about 11lbs for a 3x3 feet 2in thick panel) to be used in conjunction with mass loaded vinyl and two layers of dry wall. But again every company will claim theirs is the best and everyone else's doesn't work. Thanks again for helping clarify what results to expect.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      I do think high density is the key to blocking sounds across the frequency spectrum. I'd be interested to see that product you're talking about. Seems like a legit concept!

  • @jplee3
    @jplee3 Před 2 lety

    Nice comparison! I'd love to see more of these and was curious to know how cellulose would perform. I'm researching what to do about uninsulated walls between rooms to reduce the noise (you can literally have a conversation right through the wall between rooms haha). Blown in cellulose (into multiple holes cut in drywall) seems like the easiest way to go about fill the cavities without having to rip all the drywall off entirely to install batted insulation, etc.

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety +1

      I've been seeing a lot of comments about testing different materials. One of these days I'll do another comparison with an imported method. Cellulose is something I could definitely do!

    • @jplee3
      @jplee3 Před 2 lety

      @@JackofAllMinistries Thanks! BTW: I might have missed it but what brands of carpet glue are those? I'm assuming the blue one is the thicker one while the yellow is thinner?

    • @JackofAllMinistries
      @JackofAllMinistries  Před 2 lety

      @@jplee3 Yes, that's correct. The blue was the better one and it's Tec Skill Set from Lowes. However, Roberts 3095 is the one everyone swears by (never tried that one myself).

  • @christsidereptableslastday7778

    Good job fam !!! I just became a subscriber.