Zeliard - A classic metroidvania from the makers of Lunar & Grandia? (PC-88 Paradise) also on MS-DOS

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  • In this episode of PC-88 Paradise I play through Zeliard, a sidescrolling RPG from the makers of Silpheed, Lunar, and Grandia. The game was also released on the Sharp X1 turbo and in English on MS-DOS.
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    00:00 intro
    00:44 packaging
    02:09 user disc creation
    02:41 opening
    05:46 Let's start the game!
    06:56 shops and towns
    09:29 progressing the game
    14:20 grinding and travel
    18:30 finishing the PC-88 version!
    22:37 SPOILERS!
    23:57 credits and music
    25:30 hidden game
    26:01 X1 turbo version
    26:50 English MS-DOS version
    28:21 wrap-up
  • Hry

Komentáře • 322

  • @TevorTheThird
    @TevorTheThird Před 7 měsíci +114

    It really cracks me up that they put the stone princess out in a temple.
    The King: "Guards, please move my daughter out to the gazebo. That thing creeps me out, I won't be able to sleep with it in the castle."
    You'd think you'd keep her locked up in a safe room under guard and full of mattresses. Instead there's this image of a dark stone room out in the open. Something's going to make a nest in her.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +22

      Well, to be fair there is a guard in front of the temple, but yeah it is weird that they decided to "enshrine" her there. Guess they were half expecting she would never return to normal and would become a permanent statue on the castle grounds.

    • @Your_Degenerate
      @Your_Degenerate Před 7 měsíci +18

      If nobody had saved her she could of become a great tourist attraction.

    • @daisukegori2112
      @daisukegori2112 Před 7 měsíci +4

      She always did love thd garden. Now she can rest in piece. One piece that is. Wait this is the One piece.

    • @VixXstazosJOB
      @VixXstazosJOB Před 7 měsíci

      You seem to be an adult riht?... how come you still don't think that it's completely normal to not be near somethin painfull? ( your daughter in stone ) Yes, even if it's your daughter. I wouldn't take my children out, BUT, i would stay away from them becuase of the pain. My point is that you seem to attack that attitude to the point "it cracks you out", when in reality it is actually completely normal to have that attitude in such case ("take her away from me") Idk, it just causes me trouble though

    • @incaseofimportantnegotiations
      @incaseofimportantnegotiations Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@BasementBrothers
      she serves as her own tombstone, very practical

  • @blackdragongrief
    @blackdragongrief Před 7 měsíci +49

    Love Zeliard, my parents knew someone who worked for IBM when I was a kid and we got a lot of DOS games through him, this was one that always stood out to me even though we had to listen to it with the built in pc speakers. Can't believe I played this before I knew about Lunar and then Lunar ended up as one of my favorite games.

  • @balancejustice10
    @balancejustice10 Před 7 měsíci +24

    This is nostalgic. Zeliard is a game released in conjunction with the PC-88MA and FA sales.
    I was 16 years old at the time and played at 88-MA. 
    PC-88-FA and MA have a slightly faster internal processing speed than PC-88FH and MH at the same 8Mhz, but the screen still flickers.
    Still, at the time, it was impressive to see a big boss character on screen.
    Soundboard II was standard equipment from PC-88FM and MA, but in this game, the BGM is 6 FM sounds SSG 3 sounds
    sampling rhythm sound source 5 sounds, does not use ADPCM, and uses synthesized sound to reduce the capacity.
    There are a lot of tones, so the sound effects and BGM were good.
    Back then, most action games were played with keyboards.
    As I played the game, I became able to move the keyboard with my right hand, and as someone who plays PC games,
    I was able to move my left hand using the controller.
    Computers were expensive, so only a few people owned them, and even though I was at a private school, I secretly worked part-time and saved up money to buy a PC-88mk2SR, and then traded it in and bought a PC-88MA.
    In Japan, the issue of copying software became a social issue at the time.
    Software manufacturers have also introduced protection programs into their games.
    However, a bug occurred where the protection was too strong and the game would not start.
    It is a memory that makes me laugh now.
    Thank you again for this nostalgic game video.

    • @ereviscale3966
      @ereviscale3966 Před 2 měsíci +2

      How hard was it to secretly work? It sounds like it wouldn't be easy. My parents let me have a part time job since I was 14

    • @balancejustice10
      @balancejustice10 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I wore a uniform at school, so I changed into civilian clothes in the station bathroom and worked part-time two to three days a week to steadily save up money.
      In the past, it was difficult to buy a computer as it was the mainstream. (*^-^*)

  • @carlcouture1023
    @carlcouture1023 Před 7 měsíci +49

    Zeliard absolutely holds up to other DOS games from 1990. It took a few years for the VGA standard to really catch on (probably because it wasn't a standard at first) and most games were made for EGA graphics. Consider that the first episode of Commander Keen didn't come out until the very end of 1990 and that game was considered revolutionary. I can definitely see why this would have been well received by critics. There simply wasn't anything quite like this on DOS.

    • @Seikent
      @Seikent Před 7 měsíci +1

      Commander Keen improved a lot the scrolling compared to all the previous games where the scrolling felt pretty clunky (way worse compared to NES scrolling) and the graphics weren't good as far as I recall.

    • @incaseofimportantnegotiations
      @incaseofimportantnegotiations Před 3 měsíci

      commander keen is made by the supergroup of industry professionals geniuses
      launch it and zelard back to back
      zeliard runs the same as every other computer game, xanadu, captain comic etc. keen runs like mario, that's their achievement the technical masterpiece that broke new grounds for the entire industry

  • @zed-xr4353
    @zed-xr4353 Před 7 měsíci +19

    Oh man, those floppies are awesome. Not sure I've ever seen disks like that before. Great episode as always.

    • @AlexGorskov
      @AlexGorskov Před 3 měsíci

      We called them "disc B" with my granddad.

  • @Conan_the_Based
    @Conan_the_Based Před 7 měsíci +5

    I love the sound of the PC-88 booting up. It's like the sound of old, giant gates opening into an ancient ruins.

    • @KAISERNE0N
      @KAISERNE0N Před 7 měsíci +1

      Absolutely great way to put it. That's how I felt about my 486 too, listening to it growing up and hearing the system disk crackle and spin.

  • @sebc255
    @sebc255 Před 7 měsíci +19

    What interests me most about this game is its use of Spanish words, both in alphabet letters and katakana. The devs probably thought English wasn't cool enough for certain names, but they're unintentionally hilarious for native speakers like me.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +14

      Yeah, I came close to including this in the video, but I found it funny the way they kind of combined Japanese + Spanish in a few places. The first town "Muralla" is from the Japanese word "mura" (village), and the second town "Satono" is from "sato" (hometown). I was frequently saying, "Gotta hurry up and get back to the muralla!" while playing this game.

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@BasementBrothers I love it when Japanese devs try to be original and use ideas and concepts from other cultures specially the languages, nothing is more boring to me that seeing English in Japanese media on everything and seeing it being used like it was "cool" or original or foreign/exotic for the trillionth time, when everybody uses English on everything it stops being cool, unique or novel.
      Just that aspect alone makes Zeliard pretty unique and a breath of fresh air even to this day.

    • @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77
      @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@BasementBrothersmuralla is also Spanish for wall fwiw.

  • @JoystickVersusMachine
    @JoystickVersusMachine Před 7 měsíci +29

    The DOS version of Zeliard is probably the biggest reason I own a Roland CM-500. The MT-32 soundtrack in this game is god tier.

    • @poofygoof
      @poofygoof Před 7 měsíci +6

      came here to make a similar comment. I played mostly with Adlib but a friend lent me his MT-32 for a few weeks in high school and it blew me away. This and Silpheed have held up really well.

    • @Hitoritaka
      @Hitoritaka Před 7 měsíci +4

      Whoever was doing these back then KNEW what they were doing. Sorcerian's what I grew up with and woooooow it's good.

    • @StevenCusic
      @StevenCusic Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@poofygoof i did a remake of that silphheed, all those game arts MIDI soundtracks are slamming
      czcams.com/video/rUKEIi5mbuE/video.htmlsi=rTBm75f1HZZG1Yor

    • @Grimfarrow
      @Grimfarrow Před 7 měsíci +3

      One of the best soundtracks ever on the PC, IMO. So glad I managed to have an LAPC-1 and experienced the game in its full glory back in the 90s. I still listen to the OST to this day.

    • @StevenCusic
      @StevenCusic Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Grimfarrow it's like darkside of the moon of video game music it's an experience

  • @Dr.Quarex
    @Dr.Quarex Před 7 měsíci +11

    Zeliard actually came with maps of every level in the MS-DOS version, on a huge poster. It was definitely one of my early moments inspiring my love of games that come with maps

    • @Dr.Quarex
      @Dr.Quarex Před 7 měsíci +7

      I was so confused to hear you say the exchange rate, I was like "no way, I SWEAR it was 1:8 and got worse from there" and indeed they changed it as you said, haha

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +5

      Yeah, 1:8 would be so sweet. MS-DOS players were so spoiled. Sierra be like, "These rates may have flown in 1987, but '90s gamers got no time for this."

    • @JBgolden
      @JBgolden Před 7 měsíci

      ​@Dr.Quarex oh, the exchange rates definitely changed per town. The opening town was 1:6, but there were also a couple of towns that had 1:4 and even 1 that had 1:2. I remember going back to that one a lot.

    • @Belgand
      @Belgand Před 6 měsíci

      @@BasementBrothers You really know it's bad when even Sierra considers something unfair and confusing.

  • @ConfusionDistortion
    @ConfusionDistortion Před 7 měsíci +60

    Imagine going on a long winded adventure, rescuing the princess, than denying her snu snu, opting to instead ride off toward the sunset because some spirit said so. Yeah, I'd say that's a unhappy ending lol.

    • @joshfacio9379
      @joshfacio9379 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Kinda like Adol from Ys lol. Him riding off into the sweet sunset with dogi..

    • @JoeMusashi1987
      @JoeMusashi1987 Před 7 měsíci

      Hey Mike go rip on DJ Medina and David Rover's god awful lolita complex platformer FX Unit Yuki and make sure you tell people that they are supporting a game made by an abusive father who makes his kid go out in drag. :)

    • @crackaasscracka
      @crackaasscracka Před 7 měsíci +7

      I think he looks like gigachad

    • @Conan_the_Based
      @Conan_the_Based Před 7 měsíci +7

      Adol's reason is that he loves Feena, who ascended to Godhood out of his reach.
      Duke is just like "Girl, you're a 7 at best. I can do better."

    • @mikemurphy5898
      @mikemurphy5898 Před 7 měsíci +3

      You gotta remember, no razors back then... huge bush. 😟

  • @Isteak80
    @Isteak80 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Wow this game is surprisingly advanced for its time; I'm impressed.

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds Před 7 měsíci +11

    Game Arts were so great. Wish they still made games. We also need Lunar 1&2 ported

  • @dragoneye6229
    @dragoneye6229 Před 7 měsíci +10

    As a Falcom fan who was able to attend the anniversary event I'm happy someone out there likes these old games enough to cover them.

  • @stealthmexicans2214
    @stealthmexicans2214 Před 7 měsíci +7

    This was a random algorithm pick for me. I got the Arcade Action Five pack from Sierra for my 6th birthday with, of course, Zeliard as one of the games. I hadn't thought about that in decades, but it was directly responsible for my interest in gaming as a whole. My dad never let me try Zeliard, and now I know why.
    What an insane nostalgia rush.

  • @starlightwitch12
    @starlightwitch12 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I remember playing the DOS version of this on my PSP years ago, out of nowhere.

  • @jcmh74
    @jcmh74 Před 7 měsíci +6

    There is a hidden characteristic of this game. Each store in town sells different items. So, if you really need something but the town doesn't sell it, you have to go back to the previous town to buy it. However, once you sell that product to a store that does not sell that product, that store will also start selling that product from then on. This feature saves you from having to go back to a certain town to purchase some items.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Ah, I understand now. The way the English walkthrough explained it didn't make sense to me. Thanks.

  • @Chris-Courage
    @Chris-Courage Před 7 měsíci +4

    You had me at "Veigues Tactical Gladiator".

  • @DrakeDarkHunter
    @DrakeDarkHunter Před 7 měsíci +3

    One of my favourite things things to hear when watching an episode of PC-88 paradise is that there is a English version available. The game itself seems like a interesting reminder that side-scrolling action-RPGs weren't invented by Zelda II or Ys III. Also it's cool to see a earlier game from the devs who would later give us such classic RPGs.

    • @siveon298
      @siveon298 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Still Falcom tho, lol (in regards to Ys III).
      I wish Falcom's earlier titles were made in other languages, they're incredibly historically relevant to modern gaming.

  • @OneLotJason
    @OneLotJason Před 7 měsíci +11

    My god I loved Zeliard growing up on DOS. Such an awesome game.

  • @dillonandon
    @dillonandon Před 7 měsíci +5

    I really love all the packaging of old games you show off, especially how good they look after all this time. You, and the people you bought them from, took such good care of them.
    Thanks for the video as always.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +4

      ...except when for some reason they decide to throw out the manual! Argh!

  • @Dr.Quarex
    @Dr.Quarex Před 7 měsíci +5

    Yes' "Hearts" was spectacular in MIDI form in this game, not that I knew that was what it was for 20 years afterwards, haha. Always loved this title, even if it was basically the hardest game I ever played on MS-DOS and even tag-teaming it with a big platformer friend of mine we never got more than 3/4 of the way through

  • @godaistudios
    @godaistudios Před měsícem +1

    I beat this game in '92 or '93 without maps or the internet. (MS-DOS version) Loved it.

  • @MaxDrawsStuff
    @MaxDrawsStuff Před 7 měsíci +3

    Zeliard was awesome. I played it way later, in the late 90s, and still enjoyed it a lot. For the time of release it probably was really groundbreaking.

  • @noirlavender6409
    @noirlavender6409 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Possibly the best metroidvania ever created covered by the best PC-88 youtuber, thanks m8

  • @AlexGorskov
    @AlexGorskov Před 3 měsíci +1

    Soundtrack of my childhood. This, and Warcraft: Orcs and Humans.

  • @DaiHachiHachi
    @DaiHachiHachi Před 7 měsíci +2

    Awesome vid, didn't grow up with this era of gaming, but it is amazing to see it recorded and archived!

  • @tomw7225
    @tomw7225 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Fun fact about Zeliard on MS-DOS. If you set it to the right graphics mode, it will display the original graphics mode and art of the pc88 version. It's been awhile since I played so I don't remember which one it is. But it's a neat little option.

    • @kevinwng
      @kevinwng Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yep if you play it in EGA mode, you'll get PC88-esque graphics. That's how I played the game as a kid since I didn't have VGA at the time.

  • @DrNiper
    @DrNiper Před 7 měsíci +3

    This game! I remember that red armor and that first stage crab boss! I played this game on dos in my elementary school as little, and have allways wanted to try it again, but couldn't gather enough vague memories to google what it was called.
    Funny to think it was by game arts, given my love for grandia 😮. Thank you so much!! 😊

  • @Grimfarrow
    @Grimfarrow Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thank you for covering one of my favorite games of all time, though now I'm super happy I experienced the MS-DOS version after seeing your frustrations. What an amazing job Sierra did it with - the MT-32 godtier new soundtrack, the included map, the complete rebalancing, healing while standing still etc. etc. It made the game super fun and addicting - a truly unsung masterpiece.

  • @Nemo2342
    @Nemo2342 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Those really are some gorgeous disks; I'd have been happy to own them as a kid just for the art.

  • @RandomBattlePresents...
    @RandomBattlePresents... Před 7 měsíci +1

    I heard that clicking as the discs were loading and thought something went wrong with my speakers, that, or something was trying to break through my wall where my desk is. It didn't dawn on me that it was the video because of the background music playing. Geesh.

  • @Robonauta
    @Robonauta Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm amazed that the DOS version of the game is the one being recommended here! And frankly, even though it took 3 years to arrive, much like you pointed out, DOS didn't have anything quite like it at the time. For comparison, Commander Keen's first debut was in 1990, Duke Nukem would only come in 1991, Jill of the Jungle in 1992.
    It's relevant that IBM PC clones of the late 80s were deemed "too weak" to have the smooth scrolling graphical effects seen in console games of the time and indeed, only around 1990 those PC owners saw the first such games arriving. From the looks of the video, Zeliard did manage a rather smooth scrolling effect

  • @_Jay_Maker_
    @_Jay_Maker_ Před 7 měsíci +1

    What's so wild to me is that the Ad-Lib version of this game's OST - the one I grew up with - bangs so hard that every other version I've heard of it pales in comparison.
    People rave about the Roland version, but it just doesn't compare as far as I'm concerned. It's not even a contest.
    This game rules.

  • @40zed
    @40zed Před 7 měsíci +5

    sir, that is not a chicken. that is a cockatrice.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +4

      It's a chicken! Did you hear the way it crows? Oh wait, it's a rooster!

  • @redalchemy
    @redalchemy Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just found your videos and you have quickly taken over all my free time lol I cannot believe you only have 23k subs! Your content is top notch! I have had an interest in so many of these games but was too busy to play them all. These videos are exactly what I wanted! Thanks for making them! Subscribed!

  • @SWest-kk9ug
    @SWest-kk9ug Před 6 měsíci +1

    I remember playing this on my Mom's Tandy 1000. Man, I'm old.

  • @GranMaese
    @GranMaese Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just love this channel. Is always a pleasure to spend some time watching a new vid and the humor is great! 6:27 did crack me up.

  • @feiwong3634
    @feiwong3634 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Game Arts is one of my all time favorite companies, and i never seen this one!!!!! Man, your channel is pure gold!

  • @Leoj305
    @Leoj305 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I very much enjoyed watching this. Grandia is my all time favorite RPG, so it was fascinating to see the roots of what I consider to be a great video game studio.

  • @ARAVideogames
    @ARAVideogames Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great coverage! Keep it up

  • @Brianybug
    @Brianybug Před 7 měsíci +1

    I loved Zeliard! I played it way back on my friend's DOS PC and thought it was amazing.

  • @titnesovic4522
    @titnesovic4522 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great nostalgia, thank you for this video!

  • @ArkThePieKing
    @ArkThePieKing Před 7 měsíci +1

    I played Zeliard for the first time last year, and I was genuinely impressed with how much fun I had with it! I did have to use maps and I stopped around the 4th map I think? I can't remember, I definitely didn't finish it but it's a solid, fun, enjoyable experience. I loved the animations and music especially, the game was chock full of that 80s charm.

  • @daisukegori2112
    @daisukegori2112 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Your show is of the height of quality. You should be very proud.

  • @skins4thewin
    @skins4thewin Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dude, I would have LOVED this game back in my early PC days!! Unfortunately I had no idea it even existed.

  • @chiefnewo
    @chiefnewo Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this video! I had this game as a kid and it took me a full year to complete. Funnily enough the bit that took me the longest was finding the hidden passthrough wall in the last stage, I only found it when an enemy bumped me through it.
    One other difference in the PC-DOS version is that dying or using the wings item return you to the sage in the FIRST town, meaning a long slog back!

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah, I probably should've included that fact in the video. Doesn't make much difference I guess if you always load when you die.

  • @sunderark
    @sunderark Před 7 měsíci +5

    Akihiko Yoshida has been around in the industry this long? I never knew. I always assumed it started at Square.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci

      He is probably actually not the same Akihiko Yoshida. It is a very common Japanese surname and male first name, and most sources show that the kanji used for the Akihiko Yoshida who worked on Zeliard (吉田 晶彦) is different from the famous Akihiko Yoshida (吉田明彦).

    • @sunderark
      @sunderark Před 6 měsíci

      @@BasementBrothers It's weird that some sites credits him on that too, but you saying it's probably not the same dude thickens the plot! I am intrigued now.

    • @sunderark
      @sunderark Před 6 měsíci

      @@BasementBrothers Or wait... yeah probably one of his coworkers responsible for crediting him wrote it wrong, haha. I know that happened to me .

  • @z.s.7992
    @z.s.7992 Před 7 měsíci +1

    In all honesty and fairnes, what I have heard of this games music and its sound design is pretty good.
    This is right up my alley...I may have to find some way to get a pc 88

  • @grobles1974
    @grobles1974 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I forgot this existed. awesome
    I had the PC version

  • @carystrunk5771
    @carystrunk5771 Před 7 měsíci +1

    For slogging through this, you are a better man than I.

  • @granderwishes
    @granderwishes Před 6 měsíci +2

    "I'm sorry Princess, but your Prince is in another castle" lol

  • @PixelReality1
    @PixelReality1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ну наконец-то ты добрался до этого шедевра!!!
    Классная игра.
    Мое первое знакомство было ещё в школьные годы с версией для ПК.
    После узнал и о других.
    Groovy

  • @kirimusse
    @kirimusse Před 6 měsíci +1

    There's a good chance someone else was faster than me to comment on this this, but it'd seem that this game likes using spanish words:
    Muralla means wall (but, like a big wall often meant for defensive purposes), Almas means souls, Bosque means forest, Dorado means Golden, Helada means frozen (with a female connotation), Tesoro means treasure, Malicia means malice, Cementar means to cement, Llama could either mean the animal or flame, Pureza means purity, Desleal means infidel, and Pulpo literally means octopus.

  • @skcarr4119
    @skcarr4119 Před 7 měsíci +1

    6:26 That was great. Thanks.

  • @captainspire9094
    @captainspire9094 Před 6 měsíci

    I played this game along with Silpheed, Firehawk, and Oil's well practically every day after school. Still play it to this day. They said to beat the dragon, you bring your health to almost nothing. Just before you enter to fight the dragon there is a full heal potion. The trick is to take the potion, run into the battle, and no matter what, the dragon cannot kill you because the potion is forever healing you.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, I saw that trick. I don't know about the MS-DOS version, but when I tried in on the PC-88 version the "forever heal" eventually stopped healing me even before it got to the top of the meter, so it seems that trick doesn't quite work in the PC-88 version... at least from what I could tell. The Dragon is quite beatable though if you have the best equipment you can buy at that point and use a bunch of sabre oil.

  • @MarquisDeSang
    @MarquisDeSang Před 7 měsíci

    life is trash but when BB post, it is amazing for 30 minutes.

  • @JimLeonard
    @JimLeonard Před 7 měsíci +1

    This was a fantastic overview. One note about the dos version: You can get exactly the same graphics as the PC-88 version if you choose EGA for the graphics mode.

  • @mateusbertolaccini2224
    @mateusbertolaccini2224 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Seus vídeos são tão bons que me fazem ter vontade de jogar jogos dos quais eu não fazia ideia sequer que existiam ou em que sistema rodavam.

  • @tigheklory
    @tigheklory Před 7 měsíci

    LOVED THIS VIDEO!

  • @noble_wine
    @noble_wine Před 7 měsíci +1

    The game looks good. Good episode.

  • @corgibuttz2550
    @corgibuttz2550 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow, shocked to see anyone talking about Zeliard. I loved this game as a kid. Played it on my Tandy 1000. Never finished it back in the day, but I beat it a couple years ago on my old original Tandy 1000TX. Was real fun. Challenging. Always happy to see anyone talking about.

  • @ens0246
    @ens0246 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dear lord, thank you for delivering us another PC-88 paradise! 20:03

  • @raziyatheseeker
    @raziyatheseeker Před 7 měsíci +5

    Yoooo, welcome back! I've been itching for my Basement Brothers fix, I hope all is well. Pretty cool that the game disks have those cool labels on them. I can imagine why it wasn't done much back then, but it looks cool and stands out. Something about synthesized voices in old games intrigues me, too.
    Garland looks like something between Adol and the Fighter from the original Final Fantasy. I dig that. The game seems almost like a Zelda killer, except much more inspired by its sequel. Again, I dig that, Zelda 2 was pretty cool. You aren't kidding about those animations too, especially the sword slash. Each enemy also having a separate death animation also catches me off guard in the best ways. Of all the games you've covered on PC-88 Paradise, this one screams to me to find a means to give it a try.
    ...at least, the MS-DOS version. No wonder it took you a while to release this, if the original's grindfest was the main factor. :x

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yep. I had originally hoped to release this video a week earlier, but finishing the game ended up taking much longer than I had anticipated.

  • @DhinCardoso
    @DhinCardoso Před 7 měsíci +1

    We need a hero team to translate PC88 games! The Americas need this ♥ I NEED THIS

  • @falsebaroness
    @falsebaroness Před 7 měsíci

    Another great video!

  • @kagato3
    @kagato3 Před 7 měsíci

    I remember this game being one of the pack in games on computers in the 90's and playing it on a store's demo computer

  • @jackfrost884
    @jackfrost884 Před 7 měsíci

    LOVE the content

  • @lancelnce
    @lancelnce Před 7 měsíci +5

    The quality of voices in this game is funny lmao
    But at least I could understand the *"Amen"* one. 😂
    Edit: "Almas" means "Souls" in Portuguese.

    • @tarnetskygge
      @tarnetskygge Před 2 měsíci

      souls? maybe this game is a soulslike not a metroidvania, haha

  • @nintenjoel
    @nintenjoel Před 7 měsíci +2

    Duke "Adol" Garland... Time to wash up on a random shore next.

  • @dbzeh6837
    @dbzeh6837 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Your videos are amazing. I'm pretty familiar with the Neo Geo library, I love those videos, but I know nothing about these PC88 games, I'm amazed.

  • @technomicah
    @technomicah Před 7 měsíci

    I thought this game was lost to time. I managed to get a copy of this online back in the early days of the internet. It was a great substitute for not having Zelda for NES. Was definitely cool enough for young me. Thank you for doing some great coverage on this game. I had a pirated copy, so no sound, or didn't know how to configure it

  • @blaked7532
    @blaked7532 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Those are some beautiful disks.

  • @shinecross
    @shinecross Před 7 měsíci

    I bought this game when I was a kid. It was really tough game without a hint.

  • @NevermindThee
    @NevermindThee Před 7 měsíci +1

    For the time, this looks and sounds pretty amazing.

  • @PooopBro420
    @PooopBro420 Před 7 měsíci

    the intro track is so catchy!

  • @AccessAccess
    @AccessAccess Před 7 měsíci

    There's no shortage of japanese games that were like this (overemphasis on grinding). I remember even when FF7 came out in the US they had to double or triple the xp from battles so that you weren't forced to grind at points throughout the game. The MS-DOS version was big when I was in college and most people I remember enjoyed it.

  • @Seikent
    @Seikent Před 7 měsíci +1

    Some additional trivia:
    A lot of the names in the game are in Spanish: Almas (souls), the bosses names, such as Pollo (chicken), Pulpo (octopus) and the abilities are also somewhat related. Also, in the DOS version the red almas are worth 100, not 50.
    If you look for 'zeliard tripod', you may find the biggest fan site there is.
    I'd say that up to world 5 the game is hard, but kind of fair. Afterwards, the routing becomes really difficult and maps/hints are required if you don't have time to try every little thing (to find air currents, 'invisible' walls).

  • @darkfalzx
    @darkfalzx Před 7 měsíci +3

    I prefer DOS Zeliard's EGA mode, as it uses the PC-88-like high-res (640x200x16) dithered art. Sad this video didn't showcase that.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Oh damn man. Didn't realize that. I don't know enough about Western MS-DOS gaming. Was just happy to get it running at all.

  • @astrades2601
    @astrades2601 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I didn't play game, but Zeliard looked for me as a decent sidescrolling RPG when i first saw DOS version on youtube. And music was very catchy! I wasn't suspecting that original was for PC-88 and was so tedious in later half. Still i want to try DOS version sometime in the future. As always thank you for video.

  • @JBgolden
    @JBgolden Před 7 měsíci +1

    Man, this was a blast from the past. I was definitely proud as a lad of figuring out how to navigate those stages on my own. So much trial and error!
    I heard you mention Firehawk and am curious if you'll touch on that one at some point. It was deifnitely a beloved fave of mine as well!

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci

      I really want to obtain a legit copy of Firehawk someday, but it doesn't go for cheap. Guess I will have to bite the bullet eventually like I did with "The Scheme". Of course, before I do Firehawk, I first need to do the game that comes before it: Thexder (which I have).

  • @fmsyntheses
    @fmsyntheses Před 7 měsíci +2

    I wasn't ready for those disks.

  • @SatansLtlBaby
    @SatansLtlBaby Před 7 měsíci +1

    i played this on the dos pc, super great game

  • @TheBaca219
    @TheBaca219 Před 7 měsíci

    Now I know where that leveling up contrivance from Rance and Evenicle series came from. On that note it would be great to see the original Rance Hikari wa Motome since if I recall correctly it was released on both 88 and 98.

  • @itsGeorgeAgain
    @itsGeorgeAgain Před 7 měsíci +2

    Sorry princess, i’ll be in another castle. 23:33

  • @willkelmanpenapena3551
    @willkelmanpenapena3551 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What a nice way to end sunday

  • @SobKnight
    @SobKnight Před 7 měsíci

    this game looks sick

  • @Lykoskia
    @Lykoskia Před 6 měsíci +1

    17:17 hey that's MY walkthrough! :D ...which I wrote when I was 13 (and it shows). Man, I love this game to this day. My email has been zeliard-related for the last 15 or so years (now that I actually have an email, unlike when I was 13 and... let's just not talk about it ok).
    Fun fact: the walkthrough was originally about 100 pages filled with images of everything - mobs, bosses, items... Everything had a screenshot below the title. Things were crazy-detailed. I used to maintain a Zeliard forum (never really saw too much activity, but was fun to sometimes find something new, and that's where we learned of all the attempts of a remake in flash, as a MMO or the other variants through the years -- I don't believe any of them were ever finished though). Pity that when submitting to GameFAQs it had to be plaintext so a lot of the formatting I painstakingly did in Word, all the images; ALL of the rich text was permanently lost. I think the original file might have been hosted somewhere on a Yahoo group that's long gone as well.
    But awesome video! I had no idea the original game was that much more brutal! Especially shocking is that bosses give no Almas when even lowly mobs give them. Losing xp instead of gaining it on death? Holy crap... But at least you go back to the newest town instead of the first one, even if you do lose all your almas. Also, the Silkarn shoes make many trips back much easier (avoid some of the platforming), and especially the Feruza shoes, if you ever need to go back for whatever reason during the final stage (but there you have Esco with the best exchange rates, all items and discounted prices so I don't know why would you).
    What a nostalgic blast from the past, I had no idea this many people had an interest in this game. 47K views? 2K likes? 250 comments? That's crazy. But yeah, even after 35 years, I have so much love for this game. It really was ahead of its time. And the music was awesome, especially Bosque, Gold Caverns, Muralla... Bless you for the memories, sir! Subbed.
    EDIT: Made it through the video, I had no idea that you COULDN'T rest and heal up by standing still in the original. That's crazy.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      No way, that's awesome! I actually did use your walkthrough a lot more than I let on in this video. Like I said, using the maps "broke my brain" a few times and I couldn't find the way even with them. Your crazy "go left, then go down, then go up..." directions actually helped me at a few points when I just couldn't figure out how to proceed. They were also a bit mind-breaking at times, but I was so desperate it was far better than nothing at several points. Also, reading your walkthrough is what first made me realize that the English version is so different. So glad this walkthrough has managed to survive throughout the decades in some form. Thanks for all your work back in your teens! Glad you enjoyed the video too.

    • @Lykoskia
      @Lykoskia Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@BasementBrothers It's a pleasure and an honor to have it featured like this (though I would really have loved to share the full, formatted and illustrated version -- but that's 99,99% certainly been lost forever -- and delete all the stuff that I wrote as a kid that makes me facepalm in shame as an adult). I'm glad it was useful! And I think I originally expanded on another guide I found there, it was written by NeoZenogias. I can't remember what it contains or what I added, but probably a lot. :)
      I'm really sorry that you had to read it in that state, though. It's not just lacking images - it's garbled in places, and probably truncated. I'll let you know if I find anything somewhere, if I can get back my old forum account...
      Cheers for the memories :D

  • @PikaLink91
    @PikaLink91 Před 7 měsíci

    I never knew of this game. My world just got bigger.

  • @SnakebitSTI
    @SnakebitSTI Před 5 měsíci +1

    That voice synth is horrifying!

  • @Monhamd1000
    @Monhamd1000 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Pretty fantastic hidden gem!

  • @willisjackson3080
    @willisjackson3080 Před 7 měsíci

    i love the look of this game. It reminds me of Faxanadu, one of my favorite games.

  • @stevethepocket
    @stevethepocket Před 7 měsíci +1

    Picture disks: not just for records anymore! Actually, 8 Bit Show and Tell did a video a while back about a company that printed those sorts of disks for North American publishers. They were clearly expecting them to catch on a lot more than they did. Ironically the only example he had to show off was a demo disk that had was probably given away for free at the time.

  • @RiderWithTheScarf
    @RiderWithTheScarf Před 7 měsíci +1

    So, a game that is a metroidvania, has the hero named in the most 80s fashion ever, one step away from "Rex Magnum" or something, has Adol's red hairdo and stars in a game where he and the main bad guy look like Red-haired Seiya and Grand Pope Ares from Saint Seiya?
    This is gonna be a good one.

  • @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial
    @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial Před 7 měsíci

    Game Arts’ Zeliard to Nintendo’s Zelda II: “Senpai notice me.”

  • @TheSocialGamer
    @TheSocialGamer Před 7 měsíci +3

    There shouldn't be any thumbs down. Why the hate...! Another fantastic overview. Always appreciate the content on this channel.!

  • @zeliardforty-two4692
    @zeliardforty-two4692 Před 7 měsíci +1

    As my handle might suggest, yes I am a huge fan of this game! Thank you so much for letting more people know of this gem. I of course played the MS-DOS game when I was young. No idea how my friend got a hold of it but he definitely didn’t have that box. Absolutely would love a copy! Heck those fancy disks on the PC-88 would be cool! Definitely didn’t have that. We did get a cool poster that showed all the levels. Awe man I always wanted one!
    Anyone out there who might want to try Zeliard for DOS, its currently abandon ware and can easily be found out there! So have fun playing one of the toughest adventure games I’ve ever fell in love with 😍
    Small graphics Easter egg: go into the armour or weapons shop. Open the menu, then close and leave. They will actually get upset at you and have a change in dialogue insulting you! The blacksmith gets so angry! They didn’t have to, but it’s a nice touch

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yeah, there is a voice in the PC-88 version when he gets mad. Didn't have time to show all the voices in the video. Glad you enjoyed the video since I know it's one of your favorites. Cheers.

    • @zeliardforty-two4692
      @zeliardforty-two4692 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@BasementBrothers awe man I’ll have to look it up. Wish someone took the time to add that into the English version

  • @markmedinabattletrix781
    @markmedinabattletrix781 Před 7 měsíci

    This game seems like a great contender for a remastered revival.

  • @UnbornApple
    @UnbornApple Před 7 měsíci +1

    I wonder how well known the Sierra PC-88 ports were back in the day. I certainly never knew of them or saw them anywhere.

    • @BasementBrothers
      @BasementBrothers  Před 7 měsíci +1

      A lot of people seem to remember this one, judging from the comments. Silpheed also seems to have been pretty well known. I guess there were a bit less people who played Firehawk, Thexder, and Wibarm (which was originally for PC-88 but not by Game Arts).

    • @UnbornApple
      @UnbornApple Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@BasementBrothers well I would have been 10 years old when this came out on DOS, so that probably explains why I wasn't familiar, but I would have dug the hell out of this game back in the day.

  • @kevinwng
    @kevinwng Před 7 měsíci +1

    I absolutely love Zeliard. I played the heck out of this game when it was first released for DOS. Japanese action / RPG games were few and far between for DOS gamers back in the day, and I was happy to have this when all my other friends were playing NES. (Sierra and Broderbund made a push to bring some Japanese computer games over to Western computers in the late 80s / early 90s but their efforts only resulted in a handful of titles.) The MT-32 soundtrack is among Sierra's best. If you play the game in EGA mode, it'll look more PC88-esque. :)

  • @napoleonfeanor
    @napoleonfeanor Před 7 měsíci +1

    Excuuuse me princess but your prince is in another castle