Much of the commentary is missing the point of the exercise. Ness is trying to say that proper footwork is strong, and requires physical strength and speed, whereas good power is more about flexibility and momentum. Powerful movement is explosive, and good spin moves are more graceful than anything. He isn't repudiating spins, nor is he trying to get people to change their focus in the dance, it's simply his perspective.
The only time I can think of when it takes more strength to do footwork compared to powermoves is for example headspins vs footwork. Headspins, when you get them good? Are easy. Takes allot less energy to do headspins than it does a fast footwork combination. However most powermoves, take more energy to do than footwork combos. Flares, windmills, airflares, halos, any rotating moves especially, take more strength to do than footwork.
There are many different types of "Power" in our craft. There are many different ways to express those types of "Power". Physical strength, the ability to lift yourself, project yourself and control your body in motion is only one part of our art. The "Power" of wich I believe Ness is speaking is the power that comes from the energy the move creates with in as well as what it takes physicaly to accomplish it. He is voicing his opinion so for some he is right for others he is wrong. Our craft is and always will be based on the INDIVIDUAL. Its up to you to interpret things in your own way. To NOT atleast try to see both points of view just prooves what a lame you are. The objective is to expand your dance vocab so you can get your point across and be well rounded in your skills. So with that being said.....we can all agree that BBoying and ALL its elements is powerfull and those that persue ALL the angles will proove to be the "MOST POWERFUL" what ever your format is. Power heads will always need more tradition and style but lets face it, in this day and age you need a little of everything. Ness is right though, for me......a super technical footwork set full of intracet patterns and beat kills is more powerful than a powermove set that is bound by the laws of physics and limited in its ability to represent the music. It is after all a dance above anything else. Peace, FC
And another thing. You little comparison of momentum vs generating power. With powermoves, although momentum helps, it only helps up to a point. You still gotta bust ur ass pushing yourself while doing the move, especially when doing combos. It takes a lot less energy and strength to do most footwork steps than it does to do powermoves. It also depends how the powermoves are done as well.
You probably seen different styles of footwork/floor work, normally some lanky Bboys or Bgirls use threads, or flexibility, but there are those who do it
I think when he says you don't need "power" in power moves is because you don't need power to use it. Like when he says that kids can do airflares, HE IS CORRECT. Airflares, flares, windmills, floats, headspins is ALL technique. Once you have the technique and you have it 100% down, you can just use the momentum of gravity to keep you going while in footwork you have to generate power and momentum in EACH step. ( or thats how Poe-one/Aileness says that how it was done)
I don't see why some of you guys who are commenting are saying "this interview is going to limit... etc.. etc.." If anything, you are misunderstanding the whole interview. Learn to take in knowledge and use it for your own being. Stop thinking that "because an OG said this, it must be done like this" Be mindful of the free knowledge and be grateful that Strife TV would even put this video out to public. -AftaShock
He didn't diss Legs; they just have a difference in philosophy. Diversity is good for bboying. We can't all think the same way and still be unique dancers.
Interesting. Though technically powermoves aren't refered to "the fastes an stronger moves" or any other kind of superior hierarchy but to those which focus on creating circular inertia mainly without touching the floor with your feet. Just a technical point out. In such definition footwork would never strictly be powermoving. Hope it helped.
The only thing about footwork that is harder than power is to get the same reaction or better as powermoves. Harder to get people going crazy and cheering by only doin a footwork set. But powermoves in general are physically harder to do no question about it.
No disrespect but how many battles has kill won? How many has blonde won? On the flipside, Focus and Zeshen have won a lot of battles too. Its not about what you do its the flava and style you put into the dance.
Actually those 10 year olds are more powerful than you because they're busting power moves and you're doing footwork lol sometimes it seems the people start off trying to learn power moves, then when they realize how much power you need to execute, and they can't do it so they revert to footwork. And then they swear up and down that footwork is the true art of be bboyin' lol
just saying, if you look at what power really means, it is not strength. power is the amount of strength you can produce in a very short period of time, or with high speed as you amy put it. so power isn't really a movement type used often in breaking, speed is far more common. actually the most basic power movements used in breaking are jumps and therefore flips as well. also, if ness and legs talk openly about each other, don't just believe everything they say .. there's much background there
@Bboy jimmy neutron you honestly really don't power/strength help, but it's not a must my friend weighs 160 and is tall and lanky but can do flares elbow tracks,windmills tombstone windmills,
Bboy Zeon then why isn't footwork called power moves?..i suppose top rocks are the original footwork then,and crossing your arms is the original top rocks and ballet is the original bboying?
Cuz in bboying there are many different genre of moves. First of all toprock is one category, then footwork for itself, powermoves, blow-ups etc. You can have strong footwork if you keep practicing it. Stating ballet is the original bboying is bollocks. Bboying is so many things, do not forget bboying comes from all the dance genres around the world. Define bboying your way the best you can to describe your identity
IMO people are on this "trend" of saying what is bboying and who is a bboy and what's harder etc... I just dance.. thats what its about! everyone should shut up, stop preaching and dance! Dance has nothing to do with talking with your mouth...
oh please. Please stop with the Airflares, flares, windmills, floats, headspins is ALL technique. THAT IS A LOAD OF BULLLLLLLL SHIT!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you know how much training goes into airflares, flares, headspins etc? Technique is only how you do the move. But if your body isn't conditioned to do the move, it doesn't matter how much technique you have, you ain't getting it! Gotta stretch and exercise in order to do the move as well as have the right technique.
yeah those 10 yearolds are more powerful for their body mass then you are for yours if they can airflair and you cant ;) if only powermove bboys cant win battle, only footwork bboy shouldn't also.
The majority of people on here talk because they can't get their point across with movement.. they are idealists. They think they know something but can't prove it with action (the dance). you say shut up and dance.. but if they did that no one would notice them.. haha. True story
How many battles have kill and blond won? They won whole events solo -.-' I'm not taking away from anyone or any element in bboy. Which is whats suppose to be done. Just dance. If you're not doing it because you love it. Please stop.
when i see interviews like this i always lose some respect for people. bboying should be free, it's an artform. it's like there are trends being set to stop people doing what they are capable of doing. i see kids grow up learning just footwork and severely limiting their style because it's the cool thing to do or it's because it's original. trying to be "original" is the easiest way to be a copy. feel what you want.
You just say that to lilou on ibe again..and your reputation will hit the ground and a closing eyes....lol go watch new generations get it done....lmao..!!
Says the old man who has probably forgotten more about bboying than you'll ever know and could smoke you today. You want to be a punk? Call him out and see what happens. Spoiler: it's gonna get embarrassing for you.
Much of the commentary is missing the point of the exercise. Ness is trying to say that proper footwork is strong, and requires physical strength and speed, whereas good power is more about flexibility and momentum. Powerful movement is explosive, and good spin moves are more graceful than anything. He isn't repudiating spins, nor is he trying to get people to change their focus in the dance, it's simply his perspective.
No one can never nail footwork like Alienness
The only time I can think of when it takes more strength to do footwork compared to powermoves is for example headspins vs footwork. Headspins, when you get them good? Are easy. Takes allot less energy to do headspins than it does a fast footwork combination. However most powermoves, take more energy to do than footwork combos. Flares, windmills, airflares, halos, any rotating moves especially, take more strength to do than footwork.
There are many different types of "Power" in our craft. There are many different ways to express those types of "Power". Physical strength, the ability to lift yourself, project yourself and control your body in motion is only one part of our art. The "Power" of wich I believe Ness is speaking is the power that comes from the energy the move creates with in as well as what it takes physicaly to accomplish it. He is voicing his opinion so for some he is right for others he is wrong. Our craft is and always will be based on the INDIVIDUAL. Its up to you to interpret things in your own way. To NOT atleast try to see both points of view just prooves what a lame you are. The objective is to expand your dance vocab so you can get your point across and be well rounded in your skills. So with that being said.....we can all agree that BBoying and ALL its elements is powerfull and those that persue ALL the angles will proove to be the "MOST POWERFUL" what ever your format is. Power heads will always need more tradition and style but lets face it, in this day and age you need a little of everything. Ness is right though, for me......a super technical footwork set full of intracet patterns and beat kills is more powerful than a powermove set that is bound by the laws of physics and limited in its ability to represent the music. It is after all a dance above anything else.
Peace,
FC
And another thing. You little comparison of momentum vs generating power. With powermoves, although momentum helps, it only helps up to a point. You still gotta bust ur ass pushing yourself while doing the move, especially when doing combos. It takes a lot less energy and strength to do most footwork steps than it does to do powermoves. It also depends how the powermoves are done as well.
Nice I like this alot, he explained something alot of people dnt know and won't understand! Much respect Ness
How the fck do you not need power to do powermoves? wtf lol
You really don't, a lot of it relies on a good core and balance, I've seen lanky skinny dudes hit windmills and jackhammers it's not uncommon
dt6197 I've never seen lanky people do footwork :/
You probably seen different styles of footwork/floor work, normally some lanky Bboys or Bgirls use threads, or flexibility, but there are those who do it
I just learned so much in only min and ten seconds.
I'd probably say the same thing as Ness if I couldn't do powermoves and was in denial
anything can be power, money is power, knowledge is power, but footwork is footwork, and powermoves are power moves
I think when he says you don't need "power" in power moves is because you don't need power to use it. Like when he says that kids can do airflares, HE IS CORRECT. Airflares, flares, windmills, floats, headspins is ALL technique.
Once you have the technique and you have it 100% down, you can just use the momentum of gravity to keep you going while in footwork you have to generate power and momentum in EACH step. ( or thats how Poe-one/Aileness says that how it was done)
"Footwork is the original powermoves" Well said, cuz' that is true!
Lions mouth - love this guy!
True talk right here!
Ness is full of knowledge!!! Respect!!
In a way I agree with Ness, he's right: footwork is power but... be all rounded and you'll get extreme power! ;)
I don't see why some of you guys who are commenting are saying "this interview is going to limit... etc.. etc.." If anything, you are misunderstanding the whole interview. Learn to take in knowledge and use it for your own being. Stop thinking that "because an OG said this, it must be done like this"
Be mindful of the free knowledge and be grateful that Strife TV would even put this video out to public.
-AftaShock
He didn't diss Legs; they just have a difference in philosophy. Diversity is good for bboying. We can't all think the same way and still be unique dancers.
Alieness, he is one of the guys that can really teach you something
I AGREE !
very interesting stuff.
Casper and Machine are my favorite examples of POWERFUL footwork.
The real king !
THIS IS POWER YEAAAAAA
Amen
yup
yessssssssssssssss yes
alienness keeping it real. True bboy right here.
Interesting. Though technically powermoves aren't refered to "the fastes an stronger moves" or any other kind of superior hierarchy but to those which focus on creating circular inertia mainly without touching the floor with your feet. Just a technical point out. In such definition footwork would never strictly be powermoving. Hope it helped.
TRUTH!!!
try learning footwork taught by bounce (mzk) or profowon (floorgangz) and then try and tell me that footwork isnt harder than power
"Sometimes footwork takes more strength than it does to do a powermove," said the 50 year old man who has never done an airflare...
I feel like this wasn't the entire interview??
Yeah some Foot works infront of people is more powerfully and aggressive
one love to AlienNess speaking the truth sonn
PUT SPANISH SUBTITLES! PLEASE! PEOPLE HERE IN LATIN AMERICA NEED THIS... I'M ONE OF THEM :) THANKS :)
13 powerheads
The only thing about footwork that is harder than power is to get the same reaction or better as powermoves. Harder to get people going crazy and cheering by only doin a footwork set. But powermoves in general are physically harder to do no question about it.
Hahaha awesome comment.
Even his goatee is doing footwork
or it goes like this,,"the more u grow old the more footwork become power
No disrespect but how many battles has kill won? How many has blonde won? On the flipside, Focus and Zeshen have won a lot of battles too. Its not about what you do its the flava and style you put into the dance.
apples and oranges bro..
IBE 2010 lilou ... if you know what i mean
simple equation if footworkis power ,,then poweris footwork :)
"Support your local ghettos." Real talk.
I didn't get into bboyin' to do footwork, I got into it to be a power head. It's gives me a better high!
What about being well rounded, diverse. In a way he is right, but there are also Bboys that spent their whole career being well rounded.
ive actually seen footage of ness throwing an airflare. anything else you wanna say?
kMAROONp he didn't say powermoves are bad or... it's just that footwork is.....
Nope. Here's a counterexample.
All penguins are birds, but not all birds are penguins.
LEGS BE TALKING SHIT ABOUT EVERYONE
footwork is foundation of bboying ;)
Actually those 10 year olds are more powerful than you because they're busting power moves and you're doing footwork lol sometimes it seems the people start off trying to learn power moves, then when they realize how much power you need to execute, and they can't do it so they revert to footwork. And then they swear up and down that footwork is the true art of be bboyin' lol
just saying, if you look at what power really means, it is not strength. power is the amount of strength you can produce in a very short period of time, or with high speed as you amy put it. so power isn't really a movement type used often in breaking, speed is far more common. actually the most basic power movements used in breaking are jumps and therefore flips as well.
also, if ness and legs talk openly about each other, don't just believe everything they say .. there's much background there
@Bboy jimmy neutron you honestly really don't power/strength help, but it's not a must my friend weighs 160 and is tall and lanky but can do flares elbow tracks,windmills tombstone windmills,
flame in the eye movement of the body, and some just crap because they are lazy to learn a windmill
Bboy Zeon then why isn't footwork called power moves?..i suppose top rocks are the original footwork then,and crossing your arms is the original top rocks and ballet is the original bboying?
Cuz in bboying there are many different genre of moves. First of all toprock is one category, then footwork for itself, powermoves, blow-ups etc. You can have strong footwork if you keep practicing it. Stating ballet is the original bboying is bollocks. Bboying is so many things, do not forget bboying comes from all the dance genres around the world. Define bboying your way the best you can to describe your identity
So very true lol
Look what Alienness did to his face....
lol. Footwork's harder than power.
damn..... O_O
and here comes all the "powermovers" commenting LoL. Predictable xD
msg crazy legs maybe?
Eric Mar be my guess. I’ve said nothing wrong or nothin false
IMO people are on this "trend" of saying what is bboying and who is a bboy and what's harder etc...
I just dance..
thats what its about! everyone should shut up, stop preaching and dance! Dance has nothing to do with talking with your mouth...
oh please. Please stop with the Airflares, flares, windmills, floats, headspins is ALL technique. THAT IS A LOAD OF BULLLLLLLL SHIT!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you know how much training goes into airflares, flares, headspins etc? Technique is only how you do the move. But if your body isn't conditioned to do the move, it doesn't matter how much technique you have, you ain't getting it! Gotta stretch and exercise in order to do the move as well as have the right technique.
thumbs up who love footwork and dont giveup on power
no I dont.
Alien ness is rambling again. Call the firedepartment cause ness set a pile of shit on fire and made it a word-wrong.
yeah those 10 yearolds are more powerful for their body mass then you are for yours if they can airflair and you cant ;)
if only powermove bboys cant win battle, only footwork bboy shouldn't also.
too many eboys in bboying nowadays less talk more actually dancing or training or some shit respect the culture and whos in it. Nuff said.
The majority of people on here talk because they can't get their point across with movement.. they are idealists. They think they know something but can't prove it with action (the dance). you say shut up and dance.. but if they did that no one would notice them.. haha. True story
How many battles have kill and blond won? They won whole events solo -.-' I'm not taking away from anyone or any element in bboy. Which is whats suppose to be done. Just dance. If you're not doing it because you love it. Please stop.
when i see interviews like this i always lose some respect for people.
bboying should be free, it's an artform.
it's like there are trends being set to stop people doing what they are capable of doing.
i see kids grow up learning just footwork and severely limiting their style because it's the cool thing to do or it's because it's original.
trying to be "original" is the easiest way to be a copy.
feel what you want.
You just say that to lilou on ibe again..and your reputation will hit the ground and a closing eyes....lol go watch new generations get it done....lmao..!!
Says the old man who has probably forgotten more about bboying than you'll ever know and could smoke you today. You want to be a punk? Call him out and see what happens. Spoiler: it's gonna get embarrassing for you.