The Ultimate Budget Bow! New 3Rivers CAIRN Recurve / Unbelievable Performance Under $200!
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Are you wanting to get into traditional archery? You’ll want to see this incredible new recurve from 3Rivers Archery in action “ The Cairn”plus tips and tricks for setting up yours for maximum performance! www.3rivers archery.com
I just went to 3Rivers and bought the bow. Thank you, Jeff, for everything you're doing. You've inspired me to pick one up again. Long story, just please know this old woman is grateful.😊
Thank you so much and I I am very happy to hear that! Happy shooting!
I was about to pull the trigger on the black Hunter expecting to make adjustments like sanding etc.., to make it a center shot bow, glad to find out about this bow and I’m excited to get into the traditional archery. Love your channel Jeff and the way you teach.
I love your videos! Archery does not have to be expensive to be fun. Thanks.
You’re absolutely right my friend! I am probably more concerned with quality arrows and broadheads than what bow I’m slinging them through 😁
Obviously traditional archery keeps the kid in us, we never get over the excitement of a perfect shot and then the harvest. I've been known to do some dancing for the Lord on some of my takes, thanks be too the Lord Almighty man, Jeffrey laugh it up man, you deserve it😁👊🙏
You got it brother God is good!
Hi Jeff. Respectfully...you're such a good shooter...no matter high end or low end bow,.. your results are going to be great! Yes. True.
Lol thanks my friend I do love shooting!
Looks good! I’ve personally been blown away with my Galaxy Ember longbow from Lancaster Archery. Archery doesn’t have to be outrageous.
Exactly!
Lancaster archery are very good, one of the best bow sellers around imo.
Looks like my samick sage. I love it.
That's just a rebranded Samick Sage / Southwest Archery Spyder. That riser is uncanny and massed produced in China. I got the Southwest Archery Spyder XL (64in) off of Amazon as my first bow 10 months ago for $150 and shot my first 2 indoor tournaments with it in the Trad class 2 & 4 months into shooting. Great bow and customer service. The regular Spyder is 62in aka the Cairn. Now I use a one piece Bear for the last 6 months.
I shoot the 62 Spyder..but just noticed today the tiller is more on bottom limb. I am going to switch limbs aroun to see if it makes a difference.
I recently found a 69 bear alaskan recurve at the thrift shop for 10 bucks with a vintage wing quiver 45#@28" it is so fast and accurate with goldtip 500s. I'd hunt elk with it here in Idaho without a doubt it would be lethal.
Thats so cool!! I worked for Fred Bear in Grayling, Michigan in my younger daysalmost 50 years ago. Love those old bows!
And a great deal you got!
Yea I didn't really know what to expect when I got it just couldn't pass it up. Put a string on it and it's one of the best shooter I have ever shot. Smooth and soooo quite.
I did the limb pocket underlayment thing too.. I used a thin spongy Coozie material and also rubber bands i wrap on string just where it hits the velcro just under string groove. It is deadly silent!!
Cool! There are lots of tricks you can do to make them really quiet 👍🏻
Just went to 3 rivers archery and ordered that kit . I hunted with a compound bow for year's then crossbow become legal for hunting wanted to bypass the compound and go traditional got a lot of practice ahead to shoot close to that lol. Thanks for the video!!!
Awesome! The Cairn is a great bow to start with just make sure to order a TTT string for it lol
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Thanks for this. Still not sure I want to embark on this at age 63, but this video is helpful.
Awesome for the brain. I'm nudging 60 and loving it, though I'd remind you to start off light. Ive got a 40lb recurve and 45lb longbow. Progressed a bit too fast and ended up with pins and needles alternating all over from a neck strain issue - shooting too much! All good now but something to be aware of.
The brain exercise is excellent, working out arrow design etc. I dont have a retailer nearby, or an arrow cutter, so I guess length, looking for the ballpark and then make use of "backweights" (or "FACT" system, if Gold Tips) to play with balance. I wish Jeff would do a vid on those 😁 (and Helix broadheads, explaining what their different models would be used for).
By the way, both the weights and tool for Victory's Back Weights and Gold Tip's FACT system are interchangeable 😊
@@frigetoo9380Thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate it.😊
I got back into traditional archery at 77. Just don’t over bow yourself. The bows I shoot mainly are 30 and 35 pounds.
Looks like a great bow for that price and I would shoot more if my backyard looked like that 😊
Thanks!
I was thinking the same thing about the back yard. Where I live, it is illegal to shoot an arrow with 100 yds of an occupied dwelling.
@@BobDorfman
Where do you live? I've never came across that law, and considering you can buy these inclosed material that resemble a cricket net i can't see why there would be a law against it
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I love this bow!, going to be my hunting bow this season.
I really like your videos, you have been teaching me so much. Keep the videos coming. Also what targets do you use?
Just another samick sage clone? Had a black sheep nova that was just identical to this. A okay starter bow
exactly, must be 5 the same with different names
@@ericbaumgartner5742 probably yeah
This was my 1st bow, still shoot and love it 👍
Haha, I don't think it really matters what bow you are shooting. You are just killer accurate. The bow is only as good as the archer.
I was debating between this one and the Southwest Archery Spyder I think I am leaning towards this one
Your my hero Jeff
How many arrows do you shoot every day, Jeff? Thks
Lol I actually don’t get a chance to shoot as much as I’d like to!
I tried to find info on the Sanlida site. There was no info regarding ordering and price. I am interested in the Miracle x 10 target limbs but do t know how to find info on ordering, cost, etc. how do I contact them?
www.sanlidaoutdoor.com/web/?invite=15192
Yes sir they have two websites and one is for shopping here’s the link for it thanks! www.sanlidaoutdoor.com/web/?invite=15192
Hmmm, looks exactly like a samick sage.
Yes sir it does, probably built in the same factory, I’m guessing since it’s just going through a stricter inspection process and passing quality control but definitely a great product.
It is. Same as Southwest Archery Spyder too.
….as he said! Most bows wooden takedown bows anywhere near that price point are likely to be based on the Sage design.
Hi Jeff, your shooting accuracy is amazing.. I have a Spyder by Southwest bow company that looks very much the same as this bow. !9 inch riser I shoot at 7 3/4 in brace height.. I don't shoot as well as you do, but ive got it at whisper quiet..If i miss , I might get that extra chance!! Lol Love your videos and positive vibes!
That’s what matters lol thanks brother!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Hey brother, i just noticed my tiller is opposite! I am an eigth inch less on my upper limb..Can i just switch them around? Or can i remedy some way with string twists? Thank you! I never thought to check before!
@@trainrecked you actually can yes but if you’re shooting three under it’s fine being negative!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 im shooting split finger like you
Looks like a nice bow. Three Rivers also has some really nice looking once piece longbows in the $300-400 price range.
Yes sir!
Love your channel. Keep it up
You don’t know how much that means to me! I love doing it just to help people and guys like you are what keeps me motivated thanks so much!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 yeah man. It’s just a pleasure to watch. Also, it keeps me in tune. 😂
I greatly appreciate the wisdom you’ve chosen to give myself and others. I ordered a 55# Cairn a few minutes ago with the Traditional Only 2219 aluminum arrows. I’ve been a compound hunter my entire life, but you’ve given me the confidence to take it off my bucket list and start making memories.
I do have one question regarding my tip weight for bare shaft tuning. I can’t find any threaded inserts for this arrow to add weights, so what would be a minimum point weight for testing?
Awesome! I’d think a 150 -175 grain would be plenty
The best thing I’ve put on mine for silencing and hunting is a selway slide on recurve quiver, they fit perfectly 👍🏻
Thank you very much!! I’ll definitely go that route with testing.
I was looking at those quivers today, so I’ll have to get one as well. Thanks again, Jeff.
Hi Jeff. Loved your video. I am looking to get into traditional archery. The question I have is on the arrows. I found the traditional arrows they sent you on their website. When speckling the arrows there is numerous options for it. Don’t know what I should spec it out as. To many choices that I don’t totally understand. What did they send you? Should I call them and talk to a rep?
Yes sir I would call and talk to one of the guys and they’ll know exactly what spine you need for your bow no problem!
Amen✝️🙏
Hey Jeff, I love all your videos! A while back, getting back into archery after many years away, I bought a Samick Sage. I'm curious as to the the differences between the 3Rivers Cairn and the Samick Sage other than who sells them?
They look identical.
I don’t think there’s hardly any difference at all but definitely really good bows for sure!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Agreed. I love mine. I've moved up a little from there with a Bodnick, but use my Samick as a platform or stepping stone to stronger limbs as my strength, form and fitness improves. I'll definitely be adding some velcro and trying shooting off the shelf.
What kind of adhesive do you use to attach the Velcro?
It’s adhesive backed already.
I couldnt fight d97 fastflight strings on the website?..forgive me im new..can u enlighten me?
Most all fast flight Flemish twist strings are built of D97 BCY material, you can get them through 3rivers but you’ll need wool puffs and brass nocks which really require nock pliers or just go to TTT Strings on Facebook and order a complete string for it for $38 👍🏻
I say just WOW!
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Im trying to get into the trad bow game, what do i tell them for the string?
I see the samick sage with a different name
Samick sold the “Sage” name to Lancaster Archery which sells it as the “Galaxy Sage”. I have the Galaxy Sage Elite, which has now been replaced by the Galaxy Sage Elite II.
Currently watching your channel and some others, I learned that the weight of my arrows should be heavier, I currently shoot a Junxing F166 recurve, it weighs 50 pounds, almost 51 weighed by me, and I shoot with 385 grain Aliexpress arrows, and I often feel that the arrows lack strength if you shoot from a greater distance, do you prefer heavy arrows, if I increase the weight of my arrow to 9 or 10 grains per pound will it give a lot of variation in the shot? Does the arrow fall a lot and quickly? I saw that your preferences are for 12-13 grains per pound arrows for hunting, but I prefer a more balanced arrow since I don't hunt and I normally like to shoot at greater distances, 55 yards to 60 yards, which would indicate me when shooting by making a Will an arrow with 10 grains per pound have the same accuracy and straightness of shot? And I bought the tbow Riser and I'm using the same blades, I'm still going to weigh how many pounds the recurve was, but your recommendation was great, it's much better than my F166 Riser, it made a huge difference in my shots and aim, I'm even more accurate with the F166 after training with the Tbow (or taow), I saw your video about penetration, really cool, we needed to see that, thanks for all the teachings and sorry for the lack of familiarity with English! What I thought of is an arrow with a 150 grain insert and another 125 or 150 grain tip, remembering that I only have access to Aliexpress because imports from the United States are very expensive, with a 92% tax on any product and like the president The current situation is communist and it's a bit complicated, I know the tips are of good quality but that's what we can buy!
If you’re not hunting it doesn’t really matter, most all of my 3D arrows are only around 9-10 grains per pound so I can shoot as flat as possible but I usually run a lighter shaft with around 175 grains up front it makes them very accurate and will group tighter plus wind doesn’t really affect them as much 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Another question regarding the feathers, why 4 inches, your shooting preference is very similar to mine, and which reference for the feathers do you use, for right left or straight? I prefer straight, due to the climate in Brazil being hot and It’s not so windy where I live!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I saw some videos showing that 3 inch arrows fall quickly when using rest and focused more precision I liked very light arrows with 2 inch vanes, but with Natural feathers I wanted to know your opinion!
@@gustavodamon1 less drag than 5” and a little quieter 👍🏻
@@gustavodamon1 they’re great with field points just not broadheads on traditional setups. Just not quite enough to stabilize them.
Then what makes the 1000 dollar bows worth the money
If they are custom bows it’s the beauty of the wood and man hours put into making a functional work of art with the very best materials even the finish, as far as other higher end production bows it’s usually fit and finish as well as limb laminations but do they shoot a lot differently than imported bows? Not really but there’s a huge difference in draw cycle with some and an overall quieter bow but it’s like anything else you get what you pay for and sometimes like in the case of these cheaper bows you actually get a lot more in my opinion!
Did you ever mention what length the arrows were? I just ordered some in 500 spine with 100 grain brass inserts and I plan on running 150 points cut too 31 inches. Does that sound about right or do they need too be shorter? Shooting a bear takedown 40# my draw length is 28
They may be a little weak at 31” I’d probably go 30”
Hi Jeff, My duaghter has a similar entry level bow. It's 16#. I just weighed her Easton Jazz arrows at 16 grams. Should she be using heavier arrrows? Many thanks
Actually that’s about right, that would be close to a 250 grain arrow which is relatively light and it wouldn’t hurt to go a little heavier 👍🏻
Do 3rivers ships to Sweden?
I do believe they offer international shipping 👍🏻
What would you pick for a longbow? That one looks a lot like the samick sage
Oh man great question and hopefully I’ll be able to check out some of the longbows they’re offering as well, one of the best ones for the money I’ve shot is the American Longbow, it’s available on Amazon and really cheap but amazingly good quality and performance as well with a good string of course!
That's a rebranded Samick Sage,is it not?
They’re almost identical but the only real difference is the quality control just like with Lancaster, they all come from the same factory it’s just when they’re branded unlike the Amazon versions they have to be dead on weight and the cosmetics are more closely inspected but that’s about it lol still great shooters for sure and affordable!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thanks for the info
Jeff ! Come on, you know this is a Sage with a new name, nothing new here.
Well even if it is and I don’t have a clue what the difference might be but there’s no disputing it is a great starter bow for anyone and I absolutely love it. Hats off to 3Rivers for at least offering a good entry level bow with the backing they’re known for.
Im in between getting this bow or the sanlida eagles x9
What’s your draw length?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Honesty this would be my first Recurve...Im getting a black widow 43lbs at 28..My draw length for compound was 29.5
So I'll be a little over a 28 inch draw I'm assuming 🤔
@@Tradman47 Honestly either one but mainly because of the shorter length of the X9 it’s a better choice for hunting at only 58” but the Cairn is very smooth and easy to shoot accurately!
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Thanks Jeff 😊 I appreciate your honesty 🙏 God bless
I'm less than 5 min into the vid. Wondering how you compare it to the Black Hunter. A lot of people love their Black Hunters.
I’ve got a couple of black hunters and they are good shooters as well but this bow is far more comfortable especially the grip and the mass weight makes it very stable but the limb performance is very close 👍🏻
Hi Jeff. Thank you for your mean-as videos. They are awesome and inspiring!! I've got a Black Hunter Recurve 40lb and a 45lb longbow. The longbow is much louder than my recurve. (Similar brace heights and silencers). What kind of problems would cause this? I thought the LB should be quieter than the other. Cheers!
@@frigetoo9380 it’s the limb fit on most, just put some Velcro under the limb butts and it’ll really help absorb any vibrations and noise 👍🏻
Sage do you think that's just a samick sage with rebranding?
Well they’re very similar that’s for sure probably made in the same factory just like southwest spiders
Hi Jeff. Where can I purchase a bow quiver like yours?
3Rivers also carries the Selway quivers 👍🏻
Do you put the velcro near the groove
Yes I run mine all the way up to where the yoke starts and all the way down the grooves.
It looks very much like the samick sage
Yes it does, I think they’re a lot alike and the Sage is a proven winner for entry level and most guys actually like theirs better than more expensive bows especially for the price.
It's a samik sage
what Spine arrow is the Gold Tip warrior?
They come in 700, 600, 500, 400, 340 spines, pretty much any size you’d need 👍🏻
I just purchased this bow, and upon opening the box I was so gutted. The string, limbs, and riser are all made in China. They claim on their website - word for word: "Traditional Only isn’t just a brand. It’s a way of life! With our line of carbon arrow shafts, apparel, accessories, and other gear, Traditional Only is sure to be a big part of your traditional archery set-up. Traditional Only is a name you can count on for American made quality."
I feel lied to. US manufactured was the primary reason I picked this company and this brand. I can't take this out and shoot it and feel right about it. I'll just have to keep looking. Heads up for anyone else looking at this bow.
Yes sir I completely understand and supporting USA companies is very important to us and unfortunately the reality is that probably 90% of the products we all use in traditional archery are outsourced either to China, Korea or Mexico to save money and I’m not at liberty to say what all arrows, bows and lots of other well known and branded products actually are but there are many and it’s trending by the day, just last month I learned that even the most well known brands are now outsourced so it’s hard to not have anything in our collection of archery products that aren’t shipped in from overseas and that’s why I don’t hesitate to promote really good products made in china or anywhere else as long as they are high quality and affordable anymore but I do understand your point sir completely.
3:16 what is that 😳 🤔
For God so loved the world that he gave us his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life! John 3:16
A cairn is Scottish mate
Why are so many CZcams hunters proud Christians? Seems they go together at a higher rate than average.
Hmm, I’ve never paid attention to that but maybe they’re like me just having a good time here on earth in their personal walk with the Lord and enjoying hunting!
At that price that Bow must be made in CHINA?
Most production bows are actually made in China but there are different levels of quality control obviously with different companies importing them.
I'm sorry Jeff with all The Nonsense going on in America now I wouldn't give China another DIME! Our present President get's a kick back on everything IMHO! Please Delete if you feel so. @@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
Cairn is a Gaelic word meaning pile of stones.
Exactly! 3rivers used it because the stones supposedly marked a pathway and this bow is a great way to start the pathway to traditional archery 😁
Actually a Cairn is a Scottish word
It’s the Indian, not the bow 😂