MY SECRETS EXPOSED ON THE 100LB Bow Build
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I know you made joke of dying early from not wearing a mask. As a automotive painter for the last nearly 30 years I can tell you from experience that the folks that I know personally that never wore masks, most of them are either in bad shape now or dead in their 50's. And just as a side note the last friend of mine that died was in excellent physical health as well as being a body builder as a hobby, but the chemicals he was exposed to gave him cancer that he didn't live through. I'm not saying it is always the case, and I am guilty of not always wearing a mask. Just keep your health in mind, you do have a family. Love here from the USA
Real masks with filters not the Covid masks lol
@@gordie4059I suppose I should have specified that it should be a respirator, and not a mask. But in 100pct honesty, the human body absorbs most of the toxins it comes in contact with through the skin. Which is why PPE is recommended.
Totally agree - just to clarify I think it's wise to wear a mask when in doubt wear it 😊
If no PPE, have a fan draw air flow away from project . This will greatly reduce the chemicals that may come in contact with your skin. A respirator is always a good idea.
S@@gordie4059surgical masks serve a different purpose than woodworking, clue is in the name
The kid scraping was adorable! Heartwarming to see him at your side.
The little lad is so lovely. The way he says dadda. Best feeling in the world as a dad
I know there is a LOT of broken/delaminated/uneven bows you had to make to get to this level, but you make it look SO EASY. Very nice video again.
That’s one of the beautiful things about archery. Both bows are very similar just one is heavier but yet feel like totally different sports and are treated that way. The diversity of the archery world is incredible.
FYI ! Watch it, that can give you a shoulder impingement. It's a terrible thing and mine lasted over 8 months. Couldn't lift my arm parallel to the floor or hold much weight. Finally worked it out and can now shoot my 45# bow. I don't dare test my shoulder with any more than that, especially after all that discomfort. Unfortunately, my good friend is suffering from the same thing and he's had it for 6 months now. It's easy to over do it.
I've had this and fully agree.
Definitely stay within your limits and increase weight gradually or you spend a long time not shooting and regretting it
You can also receive a shoulder impingement from simply overdrawing your bow too frequently while shooting.
Had a $700 longbow blow up on me after having it less than 2 weeks and waiting a good 9 months for it to be made and be shipped.
Was supposed to be 50# @28” and it blew up mid-draw. I still had the arrow between my fingers and hadn’t even let the string loose when it happened.
8:44- his kid comes in and steals the show.
This is mental, I have no idea what is going on for any part of this video because I know nothing about bows but this was very enjoyable to watch
That young helper was super sweet!
Love the vibe with this one! Feels more like your old school stuff man! Awesome job!
Man your kid is so cute! Love that little dude
Yes dude! love that you're experimenting in the war bow area. It took me a while to get up to my 135lb bow. I learned very quickly that technique is everthing at that weight. I personally use a sky draw. It's not pretty but it gets it done.
Im hurting at the thought of a 100lb longbow 😂😂😂 Nice build Krammer👍
Yeah you definitely should PLEASE wear a mask 😷, great work you do as a bowyer, you do awesome work. I got into making bows 7 years ago, it's a satisfaction like no other. ❤
I am loving your channel. You have a knack for teaching and editing. Good work. I teared up when you showed your son some skills.
In case you haven't tried it, bicycle tire inner tubes cut into two strips make for great wrap clamps, and free so even cheaper (and upcycling as well) than your nylon string. Or if you have tried inner tubes, what did you like about the string better?
Thanks
Bert
???- What grit do you take the two mating glue surfaces to? And what grit do you like to go to before putting on a clear coat?
Thanks
Bert
that back pop was brutal! 🤣
Dude you need to rename the scrapers you sell to ''Krapper'.
The Kid is adorable :D
You sound sick Kramer, get some vitamin C!
Not afraid to challenge your self with new ideas, and great to see your son very interested in what you do
Win win 😊
You make great bows and with great skill...but in this video, I saw your greatest creation...your little boy. Make sure you spend as much time as possible with him as you can now. Because in a few years, he will be grown and most likely move away.
Very well made bow, great job! You were correct when guessing that you had bad technique with drawing that bow. While you did raise your bow up like a heavy bow demands, you lowered it right back down before really even drawing the shot, and particularly your drawing arm shoulder and elbow got even lower when you leaned forward, and it hurt your ability to draw the bow. With a heavy draw you usually wanna lift that bow high, drawing it back and down in one continuous motion, almost mimicking a pull-up so you can engage your lats as well and the rest of your back, it's also good to lean forward while drawing a heavy bow, but it isn't mandatory.
Great video. Makes me want to shoot a bow again. I had a 45 pound fiberglass recurve as a kid. I loved to shoot it. Now my son has one but I don’t.
this was an awesomely honest internal dialog. thanks!
When stringing the bow, a hack for the "step thru method" is to have the bow handle perfectly centered on the back of your leg, step slightly forward with the other leg that is against the lower limb at the same time you bend the upper limb. This will put more even pressure on BOTH limbs so you don't over stress the top limb and risk breaking or twisting the top limb.
Make it an option on the website and you'd be surprised how many would buy one I reckon
What a beautiful and well crafted bow.
wish I could own a 50 lbs draw weight similar to what you have made, and how much would it cost and delivered to San Diego, California. Oh! the draw length would be at 28 inches.
Your technique is pretty standard for a beginner warbow shooter. You're pulling your elbow down. Which, when not using the proper back muscles, is the natural way your body finds to pull that heavy weight. It ends up using your tricep for a lot of the work. But if you keep your elbow up and utilize the proper back muscles I think you'd be able to shoot that bow a lot easier. There's a CZcams channel called historical weapons and he's got a lot of videos on warbow shooting. That's where I learned about technique and then was able to refine it on my own.
I made a tiller stick out of bamboo all the way up to 30 inches and can be held by hand or set on the the ground to look at the tiller check
>Question: Have you ever tried to do a very thin cut mosaic inlaid in CA on a stave then covered by CA glue and the clear PVC ? Just curious.
Don't hurt yourself pulling that thing! I am no expert on war bow level draws either but... I would for sure research it a bit before you hurt yourself! Amazing Bow and great video!
Maybe you should try the Chinese technique to string a heavy bow. It’s done kneeling one leg and you use the weight of your whole upper body to string it.
Bro, using your kid for engagement? Yeah, that was super wholesome, I think you've got an explorer there!
I would like you to test if you curv the tips forward it would increase bows speed
Maybe you can make a collaboration with Joe Gibbs. I mean since heavy bows are his bread and butter. Have you ever tried to make a long bow with stiff tips?
watching this 3 am with headphones ... your kid scared the crap out of me!
Dang, now make a 140lbs warbow
i'm looking forward to seeing what your experiments with high draw weight and fast bows ends up turning into.
my max is currently 60lbs, but i imagine by the time you've got fast bows figured out i may be closer to 100lbs, my first order from shatterproof may be a big one.
(damn i just checked your site, no bows anymore??)
Bamboo is a great optional option. It's always good to have optional options.
I think I have blood vessels on my bow arm that just gave up and relocated because of being slapped so much from hyperextending my elbow. Yes, the bowstring can find a way under the arm guard too.
Ok, I’m getting into archery through your videos love what you do so here’s my challenge. Good luck tillering, but will it bow: concrete????
Kramer, you really need to build yourself a wall-mounted bow stringer. Soooo much easier to brace a bow.
New to the cahnnel lovung the videos gonna start making my own bows soon, is it possible to see a step by step of how to make a wood recurve bow, it would be cool to be able to make one at home
Kramer...
Consider this bow.
I thought you might find it interesting.
Might be some data you can add into your own experiments.
Its a heavy draw bow,
It was being drawn to 23 and 25 inches,
It was firing 200 grain arrows (24 inch arrow for the 23 inch draw) (26 inch arrow for the 25 inch draw)
Not sure, if it's intended for a shorter draw length, or the poundage makes a longer draw much more difficult (makes sense)
We were studying recently, arrows,
And learned the theory that there is a need for proper Spine, to tune the bow and arrow, for safe efficient shooting,
And that there is a ratio, an ideal range, where the bow forces are most efficiently translated and transferred into the arrow,
Lighter arrows, below the ideal range, stresses the bow leaving excess force in the bow
Heavier arrows above the ideal range, drags the bow, moving the extra mass less efficiently,
Of note, the heavier arrows would fire, if less efficiently, gaining diminish gains in 'impact force', as the curve swings to less efficient ratios.
Supposedly.
Conversely though, heavier arrows, within a range, can deliver proportionally higher impact force, despite losing some. Arrow speed.
The lighter arrows, below the efficient range, lose more impact force, and gain less speed, as the mass decreases to extremes,
Spine and tuning also become important within the efficiency matrix, as they keep the arrow flying more 'true', more straight,
Mainting the efficient application of the shaft momentum, into arrow speed and subsequent impact.
Accuracy, also, being positively affected by tuning of course.
And we agree that fast or hard don't totally matter, if you miss the target.
Anyway.
A link to the guys bow, in the comment below this one. Check it out, if you have a moment.
What I'm most curious about, with a bow shooting like the one in the video,
What would it translate to if using the proposed formula for appropriate weight and spine arrow for efficient power/mass/speed. Impact.
This arrow calculator... Uses that formula...
(link available)
Try a 150 grain point. And a 300 spine, 50 grain component arrow...
Total grains with vains = 508,
Dear Mr.Kramer
Hope you're doing well
Naw let me get this straight
What do you personally suggest,a Bamboo bow or a Wooden bow,i mean which one is better in your opinion...?
Waiting for the answer
✌️ Peace
Technique is very good considering a lack of experience with that draw weight.Great bow.😊
Nononono! Technique for heavy bows are something totally different! You shoot it with a modern target draw or something. Look at the techniqe Joe Gibbs use. Totally different.
im just curious but have you ever considered making a bow out of Rattan? Its very similar to bamboo but not hollow. I only know about bows from your videos but I think it might be a cool bow maybe.
Hola!! Saludos desde Argentina!! Quisiera saber si este video lo tenés traducido al español?? Muchas gracias!!
Nice sound on that one! Love it. :)
I was just wondering why you chose the glue that you did choose do you always use that glue or do you ever use an epoxy or not or why not.
Thank you
Core memories formed at 8:40
I bought one of your hickory staves and it arrived a couple days ago. It's got a little bit of runout so do you recommend I back it? I have plenty of bamboo
I was always sanding on hickory, maple, oak and even yew with no mask.
I hunted with a 100 lb. long bow for several years. I pulled it 30 In. so I don't really know what the poundage was. The bow was custom made for me by a local shop. I'm now quite content with my 50 lb. DH high speed recurve. keep up the good work
My Brothers highest Bow is currently 60 pounds and he pulls his cheap but the good seller of all fiberglass longbow on Amazon like most good hunters pull 40--45 pound bows. Of Course my brother has a Boxy and heavy Boned build. My max for only a few shots is 60 pounds due to being so small at 105--110 pounds or 47--50 kilograms and 5 foot 2 inch or 157.5 cm where wingspan is 1--2 inch or 2.25--5 cm short.
My last bow is a 50lbs...I can't draw more than this, maybe I can with 55/60 but it would be less fun. So I'm excercising and in the summer I'll try to make a stronger bow
I miss the time my girls were that age,it doesn’t last long enough imo, he’s a wee gem mate👍
That was awesome that was❤
Aquí muy complicado conseguir para hacer un arco pero algún día podré hacer uno bueno para aprender a cazar con arco saludos desde argentina
I don’t know why, but anytime my bows are over 40lbs they break when I try to put a string on them. Right now I’m doing a hickory backed Ipe R/D bow and when I’m exercising the limbs I’ll leave the limbs bent on the tillering stick at around 40lbs. After several minutes I start hearing creaking noises and run over to release the tension.
open your legs better, bend your forward knee, relax your jaw, load with your shoulders from above, close your shoulder blades well, the back in these very strong bows is very important. I often shoot warbows.
greetings from Italy
What is the difference between reflex and backset?
Are you using gorilla wood glue for most your laminates now? Does it hold up as well as ea40?
Me and my son are wanting to build a hickory bow from your lineup and i have a quick question can it be heated and recurved at the string tips for a little extra??
HEAVY DRAW .... the Emporor of Japan had his Archers PUSH DRAW with the very heavy bows they used
so you may want to avoid pull draw if you cant one arm chin up
its okay if the bow shatters
it is UNACCEPTABLE if the BOWYER shatters
When I was young, and powerlifting as a sport, I went along to the Mary Rose exhibition in Portsmouth (UK), where they have a 130 lb warbow simulator. I could see a knot of tourists trying to pull the bow and failing, so I walked up and pulled it to full draw. An Americal gent said 'bet you couldn't do it again', so I did... glad he didn't ask again though. The guys who used those bows must have been mutants
The Welsh longbow men train from the age of 14. By the time they reach fighting age they can generally pull 130# war bow or higher. It takes years to pull a bow like that. 100# bow should be quicker 😁
I feel a pain in my back just watching this ;-)
Τι ξύλο χρησιμοποιείται, ευχαριστώ πολύ.
With your elbow so low, you're drawing with your arm muscles.
If you're elbow was as high or higher, which is much better cause it uses more of your back muscles, as your shoulder, you could've drawn the bow much smoother and easier.
English bow makers say that step trough stringing will end up twisting and warping the bow, they can tell if a bow has been strung this way by the warp and it will void any warranty.
Should use push pull method oir a stringer if the bow has a high draw weight.
American long bows/flat bows may take the step trough method better as the limbs are wider so more resistant to twisting, but thought irs worth pointing out.
Please do it for me make a bow out of any non bow wool from outside like tree branch or something without power tools and any fancy stuff please ❤❤
All wood is bow wood, especially branches of trees
But how to build without power tools when I try there are lots of grains and breaks
Top Tiller! A Hard Good Work❤
wanna get stronger on the pull? Do pull ups, a lot of them ... Do not draw it from the bow to your chest, draw it from above your head down, similarly as you would do a pull up ....reaching your shooting position you should be in full draw...
I wish I had a bamboo bow
Sound levels all over?
Don't need a whisper followed by a bass hit to wake the neighbors.
teach us how to sharpen a card scraper
Love it 😆😂🤣🤓🫡
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Tip overlay?
Yikes I don't think people that shoot compound bow have any idea how hard this is to do. They would struggle with a 50 # My vintage 55# herters will shoot 220-230 fps on a 28 inch draw with moderate arrow weight length. Those vintage herters are blazing fast
Love this!
Saber que madera usas !!
Can you make for me an 180 lbs Bow?
Nice kid❤
Nice!
Ma che modo è di tirare con l'arco?
3:07
I married dyslexia... We do have some fun times though, don't we?
Cool
It's so powerful, but I mean, is it really necessary to make a bow that is strong but difficult to control? Instead, why not make a bow that is weaker but easier to control?
Hey can I buy that 100lbs bow? I'm serious btw.
Tahtoo tuollaisen 🤗
30x80lb "exercises" every time you scrape means you probably don't need to hit the gym for lats much :D
i wanth s this ok plaes
Woooooooooooww beati
I don’t understand why he keeps removing material.
Hi what is the tool called in 7:06?
Cabinet/Card Scraper
You will be visiting a chiropractor sometime after a session with a hundred pound bow. It will happen.
There's a reason English bowmen had skeletal deformities, a 200Ibs war bow is not to be taken lightly.