Learning THIS Story Structure Changed My Screenwriting Career - Christian Elder
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Christian Elder is a screenwriter, playwright and filmmaker based in Los Angeles, California. He has been a finalist for Tribeca All Access, a semi-finalist for the International Thomas Wolfe Playwriting Award, a quarterfinalist for the ScreenCraft Play contest and a quarterfinalist for the Academy Awards Nicholl Fellowships in Screenwriting. His work written for the stage has been recently developed at the Billie Holiday Theatre through the Frank Silvera Writers’ Workshop and Urban Stages, both in New York. He has written and directed two short films and is the creator and executive producer of the new crime fiction anthology podcast Hell, California.
Elder's Hell, California, is a hardboiled crime fiction podcast anthology series (co-produced by Jeremy Foley). It takes place in a mysterious, mythical California border town called Hell. Each episode is an original standalone noir story, often about greed, lust and murder. In March 2020, Elder, Foley and a team of six writers formed an online TV writers’ room during the pandemic, resulting in this series.
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I feel the word “beat” is the most ambiguous term in all of screenwriting and filmmaking
Beat me to it
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@@jackalkin6757 I know, right? Perfect punchline.
That is so true
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I think creating a logline for each beat of the story (whether you use this 12 beat structure or something else entirely) is brilliant. Seems really obvious but it’s never occurred to me to do that.
Guess you will have to test it out and see if it helps your process.
It certainly helped me to headline scenes in a quirky way: Bob pushes Claire off the cliff and everybody gasps.
I also imagine a trailer, as discussed in another video, which helps me balance comedy/action/dramatic beats to hook the viewer in different ways. I have 90 seconds to grab your attention so visualise what scenes/lines/shots will show narrative and also create a reaction that makes my story be one you mentally note and want to see. Create a puzzle, put two pieces together in the trailer, and hope they want to see the whole jigsaw finished.
@@yorkipudd1728 do you remember which video that was?
@@morningcoffee1111 sorry, not without searching myself, but it was marketing based, not script craft. If I find it I'll reply.
Thank you, Christian, for sharing your time and insights on story! Thanks Film Courage for bringing these interviews with pros to share with us. The efforts and variations on these themes is very much appreciated. I recognized the amount of work and prep required to bring these conversations to us and the information presented is precious for those who recognize it. The variety of speakers is pretty great as writers can hear variations on ideas and find the gold nuggets that resonate with them.
My big take was - find what is necessary for the story. Don’t overload the scene. I think the title of this video is a taaaaad misleading.
Hi Andrea, thank you for your comment. We agree that this title is not quite right, please let us know if you have any suggestions.
For me it was about Feeling the Story and finding your voice. The speaker spoke about his inspirations. One of his favorites taught him about the nuances of ones own writing. It the beats - because those are generic but the spaces in between. So maybe a title about finding once’s own style and voice.
Personally, I’ve found using Save the Cat generally useful for planning out my screenplay for my pilot. Beyond that, when I get writing, it generally just flows how I feel, and some ideas may change causing future plans and scenes to change. I feel flexibility is good, but a solid beat sheet can help you get off the ground.
Great interview. Great content... and as someone who has also had a lifelong battle with a stammer, I really appreciate Christian’s effort here. 👍🏽🙏
I really liked the EKG analogy. It made a lot of sense.
I needed this direction badly. Thank you for posting this!!
Glad it was helpful!
He says a lot without saying much.
Alot of umms
Great summary
You lost me.
The funny thing is, as a musician, I totally get what Elder is saying when he describes the things expressed and what you "ff-ee--ee-ll" in-between chords. So why can't I use that analogy to understand the concept of the beat?
🍻 The music analogy is spot on. 🎶 I don’t think the spaces between the beats have ever really been like charted or mapped, diagramed or named or whatever lol.
What he's saying about Monk's music and the space between beats reminds me of Hemingway's Iceberg Theory.
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How did you figure out your voice?
Still working on it.
The most goofiest things I put together from jokes and my flippant observations resonate with people the most.
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To me the beat is like a wave in the sea some are like those tubes where a surfer gets
David Mamet is one of the best Author!
These Rock!
I waste my time watching this tips. There is no tips here!
You can edit out the first five minutes of this video and lose nothing.
What is EKG??
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The heart beat representation looks like the up and down pattern used to describe the plot.
this helped me a lot. Thanks Christian and film courage :)
Nice to hear that, thanks for sharing Jason. Our best to you and your work.
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i see beats as points at which the mood and tone changes...
I am just an ant comparing to Hollywood filming.
JUST WRITE IT. Twelve best outline might drive you insane and keep you from getting it done
Meant to say beat not best obviously
Agreed. I feel like any sort of structures or outlines help in rewrites, but at least for me all that matters is I get the story on the pages
@@BlackPhi1ip so true! Just write the story and after a few table reads use or not the suggestions then do a beat sheet. Now you really know your story to make changes.
Who are these people on this channel who are supposed to be such storytelling experts? What has this guy done? I'm not just being a dick, he sounds intelligent but what has he done to be able to impart such wisdom? I looked at his imdb it's pretty slim. Maybe he has some great screenplays being developed or in his draw I don't know. How about getting a Paul Schrader, Robert Towne, someone with a resume that's worth listening to ?
Hi Walker, we found an interview with Paul Schrader. Maybe you will enjoy this one - czcams.com/video/SM3-45tbdPU/video.html
Thank you for finally interviewing some more People of Color in your channel!
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That was nice to come and give his opinion but his tone and voice are so pretentious ... i just remembered the south park episode when everyone was driving hybrid cars.
People talk like that after speech therapy
Very pretentious
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The man shared his time and insight for the benefits of others. I’m grateful for his sharing.
He knows more than most of us. Any advice or direction is highly useful.
Most people in film are highly highly pretentious