ROOF TOP TENT VS SWAG, Pro's and Con's

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Komentáře • 737

  • @thewiredfox2691
    @thewiredfox2691 Před 4 lety +46

    'Girls, use the swag roll as a football drill.' You definitely get some 'awesome dad points,' if not 'best dad award' for that.

    • @Ronny_Dahl
      @Ronny_Dahl  Před 4 lety +3

      Haha

    • @philsymons9614
      @philsymons9614 Před 4 lety +1

      That was the highlight of the vid, those girls enjoyed knocking daddy over!!!!!

  • @salsa83
    @salsa83 Před 4 lety +201

    Ive never heard about swags in the USA. I would love a tent vs swag video.

    • @steventure7939
      @steventure7939 Před 4 lety +8

      Kodiak Canvas is the only US company I'm aware of that makes a swag. I'd like to see a tent vs swag video as well!

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 Před 4 lety +7

      Swag is mostly sold in Australia, same with the Landcruiser's they are driving

    • @pmg8504
      @pmg8504 Před 4 lety +8

      You have ARB in the US, I'm sure they sell their swags at their dealers!

    • @steventure7939
      @steventure7939 Před 4 lety

      PMG oh yea totally forgot about ARB

    • @rudvs
      @rudvs Před 4 lety +1

      There great in the cold climates

  • @HartyBiker
    @HartyBiker Před 3 lety +15

    Pro tip: a lot of cons for swagging can be avoided by setting it up on a stretcher bed. More comfort, less dirt/sand in your swag and you've also got a great place to put your boots. I've sawgged this way for a few years now and it makes a massive improvement.
    Having said that I'm looking at putting a rooftopper on my trailer to turn it kinda into a budget camper trailer for longer trips, but I still have to iron out a few kinks yet before I commit to that purchase

    • @jackwaau
      @jackwaau Před 3 lety

      I went with a kamp-rite oversized nylon. There are a few good tent-stretcher options and some flimsy rubbish ones. I'd be happy with a swag on a stretcher. Either way I'd run a tarp over it to 2 poles for sitting shelter, cooler in summer and if it rains, you wont have wet canvas to deal with. A light airing is all that would be needed when home.

  • @tristo8881
    @tristo8881 Před 4 lety +19

    swag on a stretcher bed ;) eliminates the "on the ground cons" ;) plus much easier to get into bedplus you can just dig holes to under the higher legs to make it level ;)

  • @johnangus9333
    @johnangus9333 Před 4 lety +95

    When I'm ready to jump into my swag, I just chuck my boots in the car and walk over in my thongs. Then your thongs can just sit outside the swag waiting patiently for the inevitable 3am wizz.

    • @allwheelinoz4707
      @allwheelinoz4707 Před 4 lety +2

      John Angus that is so what I do 👍🏻 rain, hail or stars 😀

    • @BRollOffroad
      @BRollOffroad Před 4 lety +7

      why do i never piss at night when i'm home but only when i'm camping and it's freezing?

    • @glennschmidt8877
      @glennschmidt8877 Před 4 lety +1

      So obvious, yet... why haven’t I ever thought of that.

    • @CarlosRios1
      @CarlosRios1 Před 4 lety +1

      I usually walk on flip flops instead of lewd underwear

    • @tonypucheta354
      @tonypucheta354 Před 4 lety +1

      Hahaha I bring my urinary bottle as well 👍👍

  • @zamboni68
    @zamboni68 Před 4 lety +3

    I agree about RTT mounted on a roof. My Ute has a half rack over the truck bed and the RTT sits on it putting the tent at cab height. No wind noise, no loss of fuel economy, and since it sits lower its easy to access all the flaps and windows. The added weight actually helps with traction because it’s over the rear tires where there’s less weight than the front with the cab. Always great vids, mate. US loves Ronny Dahl.

  • @jacksonbowen814
    @jacksonbowen814 Před 4 lety +7

    Little tip when I use a swag, I have it underneath my awning and awning wall, sometimes on a stretcher which combats some of the con points Ronny mentioned of being on the ground. Anyway being this close to the car I can undo my muddy boots and step into the swag, open the door and put my boots in the car, keeping the swag clean. On this point I also have my clothing bag accessible from said door meaning in the morning or night I can just reach in for my clothes and grab them out and change in the swag, eliminating space taken up by clothing bags and what not. Really would recommend for anyone to try and to this if they can, makes camp life in a swag so much better

  • @y.t.b.s.c.k.s
    @y.t.b.s.c.k.s Před 4 lety +5

    not really a pro over a RTT, but: a swag is definitely typical Aussie, quite iconic. i brought mine back to Germany. i sadly have to admit that i'm using it far too infrequently, but when i do - the reactions i get are priceless! "will you bring your bear trap again?" is my favourite :D

  • @kimoclyde
    @kimoclyde Před 4 lety +35

    "if you're picking up what I'm putting down" is that like "Do you understand what I'm saying?"

  • @all4runner316
    @all4runner316 Před 4 lety +7

    I have both. Swag and hardshell AX4 rooftop tent. Swags for 4wd camping trips, rooftops for extended stays.

  • @JimMcNabb44
    @JimMcNabb44 Před 4 lety +20

    Hi Ronny I got a rooftop soft cover and on the 4x4 it was a wast of $ if I ever get a new rooftop I would only go hard shell, I spent 50 years in a swag and never had any problem the only thing with a swag is rolling them up with old fingers and using them up North in the wet session the rest of the time they are great easy to put up and put away and they don't take mass of space. I have used swags all over Australia from the snow to the desert from 40c + to -15d and have never been cold or wet (PS I set up in the DAY)

  • @jaroffireflies
    @jaroffireflies Před 4 lety +5

    This video was great, thanks. I’m researching RTTs and came across your channel. This is exactly the debate I’m having right now in my head :)

  • @OzBiker4x4
    @OzBiker4x4 Před 4 lety +8

    Double swag on stretchers under the awning for my wife and I. Just got back from a month out Central Australia and loved it.

    • @123jakboy
      @123jakboy Před 3 lety

      What stretcher did you use for a double swag?

    • @jackwaau
      @jackwaau Před 3 lety

      @@123jakboy My guess is it was 2 singles put side to side.

  • @pearcem66
    @pearcem66 Před 4 lety +11

    It's one of those questions where there isn't a right or a wrong. Great video again Ronny 👍🏼

  • @AfroMyrdal
    @AfroMyrdal Před 3 lety +1

    This is hands down the best video I've watched about this. I've spent hours trying to decide and find the perfect roof top tent or if I should just stay with my ground tent. Clam shell tent it is.

  • @billyh9287
    @billyh9287 Před 4 lety +3

    Re your fuel consumption comment.
    I have a S/C Hilux with raised suspension, AluCab canopy and a Bundutec RTT.
    Consumption with everything on over a 6 month period, 8,2 Km per Litre
    Consumption with the Canopy and Bundutop removed over a 3 month period, 8,4 Km per Litre
    The loss of 200m per litre well worth the hassle free camping and in Africa, best to get as high as possible
    As for having the additional weight on top of your vehicle, 60kg spread over half your vehicle is hardly excessive or noticeable.

  • @warwickoneill2459
    @warwickoneill2459 Před 4 lety +26

    Been swagging it for years and love them. But, just had my first outing in a rtt on a trailer and loved that as well. These old bones don't quite get in an out of a swag as easy as they used to. Having said that, depends on the situation - a weekend with the boys = swag. A few days away with the Minister of Finance and Domestic Affairs, then it'll be the rtt from here on I reckon.

    • @berga312
      @berga312 Před 4 lety +1

      Warwick O'Neill I bought a stretcher to put my swag on, much easier getting in and out and more comfortable than swag mattress on its own.

  • @mountainconstructions
    @mountainconstructions Před 4 lety +10

    I considered all these options for a year
    Then just build a sleeping platform in my Landcruiser, perfect queen size bed with 2 pillow and heaps of space.
    Zero on the roof, Zero on the ground, Set up time is Zero, When it rains, i just smile and roll over
    If its cold in the morning, i reach over the start the vehicle and run the heater
    Can charge my devices, can access the fridge.
    My vehicle stays light weight and fast
    Cost, about $40 and some off cut timber, some second hand carpet.
    How ever, i did want a James Baroud RTT and 270 awning....
    That was my dream, but what i have is easier, less weight and stays in-vehicle

    • @spets5355
      @spets5355 Před 4 lety +1

      That's what i want to do with my vehicle. Better than a ground tent in case of wild animals and cheaper than a rooftop tent.

    • @mountainconstructions
      @mountainconstructions Před 4 lety

      Spets You also save weight in your vehicle by removing the 2nd row seats

    • @spets5355
      @spets5355 Před 4 lety

      Considering the weight of the wooden structure, i woulnd't save much weight. But the engine is already underpowered, so a few kilos wouldn't matter anyway :P

    • @edwardphelps5129
      @edwardphelps5129 Před 4 lety

      yah thats what u thinking in my troopie but doesnt leave much room for storage?

  • @benjaminmadrigal2328
    @benjaminmadrigal2328 Před 4 lety +5

    I've got the best of both worlds. I have a swag, bit I built this retractable extension on my truck's bed. It's quite light and I just set up the swag on there. Mind you, I don't do really long trips, just a couple of nights camping.

    • @christianmilligan3614
      @christianmilligan3614 Před 4 lety

      Benjamin Madrigal, I'm thinking of the same setup for mine. I'm stuck for ideas. Would you be able to roughly describe how you did it?

  • @cemmercho8090
    @cemmercho8090 Před 3 lety +2

    Top video! I was wanting a rooftop tent on my ute but now my mind has changed

  • @chackmule4998
    @chackmule4998 Před 3 lety +2

    Always incredibly helpful, thanks! Shoutout from southwest US!

  • @offtrackfamily
    @offtrackfamily Před 4 lety +1

    Great vid! We have a hard shell rtt for 8 years now and love it. Had to deal with soft shell rtt when traveling in Australia and hated the set up & closing. Was really happy to use our hard shell when back home. It is on our Defender but no problem for offroad... except maybe for MOAB 😅

  • @hardrockuniversity7283
    @hardrockuniversity7283 Před 4 lety +1

    I agree with salsa 2 below, my 10 x 12 tent is much smaller packed than any of those 'swags'.. Very well presented, that's why I started watching you.

  • @WhiteCavendish
    @WhiteCavendish Před 4 lety +2

    I debated over the question of ground tent vs rtt, and I decided to take the third option: Cot tent with rain fly that goes almost to the ground. It's nearly identical to the one sold by Oztrail. Extremely comfy, roomy enough for me and my gear, very weather proof, off the ground, weighs 25lbs, not overly huge when packed, can stay behind at basecamp, and it only cost me 50 canuck bucks vs the $800-$2000 of a RTT.

  • @rbhfishing8123
    @rbhfishing8123 Před 4 lety

    I myself have been a swag man all my life. But have lately been considering a similar set up trailer with the RTT seen in this vid. I was unsure weather to go soft or hard top. You have now 100% convinced me on hard RTT. thanks a heap for the vid champ. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @neth77
    @neth77 Před 3 lety +1

    Always appreciate your non bias opinon.

  • @kenuber4766
    @kenuber4766 Před 2 lety

    Good ideas. Thanks for taking the time to show the pro's and con's.

  • @pattymiller2160
    @pattymiller2160 Před 4 lety

    Great video Ronny! Very informative. Keep up the great work.

  • @DaciaProject
    @DaciaProject Před 4 lety +116

    Where I am here in Romania, you must sleep in your truck due to bears. . .

  • @jarradblair1793
    @jarradblair1793 Před 2 lety

    Im a swag man always have been but recently ive started doing very long 4x4 touring holidays. Most recently i spent 2 months checking out the kimberlys in northern WA. And i can tell you right now 68 days moving camp every day, contending with massive humidity and almost no breeze at night i will be buying a rooftopper. Simply not needing to dry it out for an hour or 2 every morning before rollup is a win in my book

  • @I_am_Jeff
    @I_am_Jeff Před 4 lety +2

    Great video! Hello from USA👋🏾. Thanks to you, you broaden my horizon of choice of shelters for overlanding. I always assumed there was the RTT and tents, but these SWAGS are something difficult and prolly something I would consider now. Please do a tent versus SWAG video.

  • @PhilCherry3
    @PhilCherry3 Před 4 lety +27

    Throw a tarp over that swag & you're virtually weatherproof!

  • @MoneySkills4Life
    @MoneySkills4Life Před 4 lety +4

    I have a dome tent, it works for my lifestyle. I like your thinking about inconvenience on vehicle roof and fuel consumption, being sensitive to fuel consumption. I rather drive more. Having said that, I am toying with the trailer idea and your hardtop view makes sense. Thanks.

  • @boboutdooradventures
    @boboutdooradventures Před 4 lety +3

    Good Pro & Cons video.
    In Europe it's pretty difficult to get a swag (aka order one from Australia) so most people go for this 3 options: Ground tent, RTT or sleeping platform inside the car or in the UTE hard top

  • @4x4CampingandAdventures

    I'm looking at a rooftop now Ronny thanks for the video and congrats on 300k

  • @vincebroady5555
    @vincebroady5555 Před 4 lety

    I did the soft shell RTT for about 5 years. Never again. When I chucked the RTT I went to the Marmot Limestone 8P tent and slept on a cot. I really enjoyed the extra room inside. Now, I’m in a Darche Dirty Dee Swag and absolutely love it.

  • @Jason-cw6ws
    @Jason-cw6ws Před 4 lety

    Absolutely need a ground tent vs swag video. This is the first time I ever heard of a swag

  • @Malc664
    @Malc664 Před 4 lety +30

    🎼 Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong, under the shade of a Coolibah tree. And he sang as he sat and waited while his billy boiled. You'll come a Waltzing Matilda with me. 🎵

    • @spencercoe7550
      @spencercoe7550 Před 4 lety +19

      I bet all aussies that read your post sang the tune to themselves 😎

    • @8drifit
      @8drifit Před 3 lety

      @@spencercoe7550 yes i did! 😂

  • @2manyhobbies76
    @2manyhobbies76 Před 4 lety +3

    Good pro/con video on the two. I would love to see a swag vs. ground tent video. Maybe include a bivy sack (which seems a lot like what you call a swag) Keep up the great work, Ronny! Your channel inspires me to get out and do more.

    • @tegunn
      @tegunn Před 4 lety

      yeah it looks like the Aussie swag is a bivy shelter with bedding inside and roomier. My bivy is in my BOB.

  • @bradjohnson4812
    @bradjohnson4812 Před 4 lety +1

    G’day Ronny, thanks for posting another informative video. Great stuff.
    I recently bought a lovely (but slow af) 1HZ powered 80. It came with a 3m awning and a Darche Highview RTT. We’ve used it a few times and it has proven itself to be very comfy. As you mentioned, you are up off the ground which if you are camping in the cooler months in Southern NSW is very beneficial, everything stays drier. But my 80 runs 33” tyres and a 4” lift. Packing up every day to hit the trails and set up again every night is a pain in the arse, particularly when the trails are so dusty by day that you have to make sure it is completely zipped up and covered lest it get full of dust. You are right, you can feel the weight of the bloody thing up there when you are negotiating some of the more technical stuff.
    Regardless, my accomodation is up there, out of the way. I’m not dragging a bloody trailer around and I don’t have to worry about allowing space in the cab of the car for my accomodation.
    Anyway, keep the vids coming mate, they’re great.

  • @saularana2033
    @saularana2033 Před 4 lety +2

    I have an X2 pretty much with the same setup of yours (with J. Baroud on top), and completely agree on your analysis. I will consider to acquire a swag as a plan B or when I have guests, taking on count your advice.

  • @Nokkynokky76
    @Nokkynokky76 Před 4 lety

    The thing that stuck out for me "the cheaper it is, the more work is required in setting up and packing down". Thanks Ronny

  • @Phil_McAvity
    @Phil_McAvity Před 4 lety +17

    I had a Kings rtt, the soft one and it was shit! I’m now back in the swag & saving for a quality clam style rtt. Lesson learned.

  • @Yerevan1964
    @Yerevan1964 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the post. Here, in the U.S.A., I have a Tepui Ruggedized XL (soft-top) four-person tent on a Toyota Tundra. Although, it may be little time consuming to fully set it up (30 minutes for two people), I still like the spaciousness of it. It really provides the four-season camping experience for all weather situations. It's perfect for two people along all of our belongings, including a Mr. Heater Portable Buddy propane heater. Prior to purchasing the tent, I also looked at hard-shell rooftop tents, and the major drawback was the lesser space. With my Tepui tent, the floor space doubles when opened (closed size is 48"x72", opened sized is 96"x72").

  • @GoatOffroad
    @GoatOffroad Před 4 lety +4

    Great video Ronny! Definitely like the idea of the RTT on the trailer. Would not put one on our XJ how we use it. Clearance with trees etc..would be a problem. ❤️🐞

  • @mrjohnsonclarke
    @mrjohnsonclarke Před 4 lety +1

    With 3 kids and the missus, I have opted for a camp trailer.
    Get the right one and you can be setup in about 5 mins. I have timed my pack-down, 8mins ;)
    You can leave it at base and go cruisin.
    If you use your truck as a daily then you can have your camper as an easy hitch-up camping solution with everything ready to go...
    I personally converted an army trailer into a camper as they are tough as hell.
    Hope this helps someone.

  • @TNTBondiBeach
    @TNTBondiBeach Před 3 lety

    I have both and use both it different scenarios and love both, because they both have pro’s and cons. Awesome video mate! I really enjoyed it and found it very informative.

  • @BL-tr2ug
    @BL-tr2ug Před 4 lety

    Simple, no BS info. Thanks

  • @anthonycook8703
    @anthonycook8703 Před 2 lety +1

    I've never used a swag but have done a lot of camping trips on my motorbike (currently a Suzuki DR650 ADV). I use a little 2-man (I think it was advertised as a 3-man but you'd never fit 3 in it comfortably) tent which gives me enough room to bring my panniers, bag, and boots in with me so it's ideal.
    What I especially like about it is it has enough headroom that I can sit on my Helinox Chair-1 without my head touching the roof, next to my Helinox Table-1, while cooking and eating/drinking a meal and reading a Kindle at night, zipped up out of the mozzies.
    (I know, I'm always super careful when using a stove inside a tent, and keep a window & door a little unzipped to vent the carbon monoxide outside.)
    What I save on caravan park fees I spend on a good quality mattress and sleeping bag and I always get a good night's sleep in it and get woken by a chorus of little warblers in the trees outside. Very nice.
    On the DR I'm able to wander deep into the bush in search of the ideal campsite. And it's not so heavy I can't easily pick it up without having to off-load all my luggage if (when) I put it down
    The tent is a simple design, small and light enough to carry in a dry bag on the seat behind me without adding any weight to speak of. 2 little fibre-glass poles and a dozen little Helinox aluminium (highly recommended) pegs and guy ropes secure it to the ground.
    First time I put it up it took me a while to nut it out but now it's a 5 minute job. Taking it down and packing it up in the morning takes a lot longer unless I manage to set it up where the sun hits it early so the dew and frost will be gone without my having to sit around til10am before rolling it up. I'd like to be able to hit the road by sunup but that only happens the times I stay in a motel, which I almost never do because I'd miss the early morning birdsong chorus.
    So long story short, like I said I've never tried a swag but I don't fancy it.
    Btw I can easily get dressed inside my little tent.

  • @lukesheppard1065
    @lukesheppard1065 Před 4 lety

    You talked me out of the roof topper, ppl definitely need to watch this before buying 👍

  • @e210dall3
    @e210dall3 Před 4 lety +1

    Had tents for ever when camping with the family. Great times. My son still does the swag. Now V8 Toyota Troopie with a pop top, ready made bed and just to top it off diesel heater and hot shower. I reckon I've earn't it. Can set up in 1 minute and shut down in less than 2 minutes. Did I mention we love our troopie. Yes, the price point is a tad more than a swag.

  • @Willkhalifa
    @Willkhalifa Před 4 lety

    I recently bought a soft top rooftop tent and I agree with Ronny completely. I absolutely love how comfortable it is, but the set up/takedown are a pain.

  • @lukemitchell5241
    @lukemitchell5241 Před 4 lety +2

    Have you ever owned a soft shell rtt Ronny? Had a Kings one now for a couple years and I’d put $20 on it that I could set that up and pack up with bedding in the same time it takes you to do the same with a dome swag. About the only cons I’ve found so far are the wind and when camping in the one spot for more than a day doing day trips. Have mine mounted on a tub rack flush with roof rack so for me and the misses works perfect. Never been covered in dirt packing it up either. The bag never touches the ground 🤔

  • @jgdavidson90
    @jgdavidson90 Před 4 lety +15

    With the soft vs hard RTT I think you glanced over two main difference. Hard shell are typically much shorter then soft in I’m 6 foot 5 and hard shells are way to short unless I sleep curled up. Also the soft RTT has far better ventilation on a rainy night it is 100% more comfortable as you can get cross ventilation going both ways as you have the awnings unlike most hard shells. And to be honest your camping and meant to be relaxing why can you not spend and extra 3 minutes you have all day

    • @jonnyweston
      @jonnyweston Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed, plus he neglected to point out that hard shell rtt are usually 2 to 3 times the cost of the soft equivalent.

  • @Ev1lsp00n
    @Ev1lsp00n Před 3 lety

    I had a Darche RTT (soft shell) and loved it. Put it to the test in a lovely Westerly outside Queenstown... it survived, but it was loud.
    So if you are in windy/exposed parts of the world I'd say go Swag! Currently working on my next build and I've decided to Swag. They are just a lot more versatile .... and in a Discovery, I really don't want any more weight up high!

  • @lovingatlanta
    @lovingatlanta Před 3 lety +1

    👍Terrific info based on real world, real user experience. Thank you! 🙏💝

  • @starguard4122
    @starguard4122 Před 2 lety

    Great Video. Lots of Info. Thanks!!

  • @tomwilkie6431
    @tomwilkie6431 Před 2 lety +1

    I have both and enjoy using both. But more and more I find the roof top tent is my go to. One of the pros for the roof top not mentioned was the ease and speed of getting ready to go off camping. With my vehicle mounted tent it now takes less than hour from deciding to go and driving out the gate. All I have to get ready and throw in the vehicle is food and clothes.

  • @qbncrzn
    @qbncrzn Před rokem

    This was an awesome video thank you and it was very thorough

  • @spencercoe7550
    @spencercoe7550 Před 4 lety

    I have had an oztent for years and decided to get the kings qwiky rtt yes more fuel but as we are getting older having the bed made and off the ground made more sense absolutely love it. 30sec to open and little longer to close.

  • @wesleyconnell2758
    @wesleyconnell2758 Před 4 lety +1

    I have a double swag and fully agree about size and the space it takes up in the vehicle, but I do love it. Also keeping the zips together at the top of the flap minimises the snakes and spiders getting in issue. I always laugh when I see people zip their swags/tents up and they have the zips down low.

  • @rockymtnlovelander
    @rockymtnlovelander Před 4 lety +1

    Helpful review,, Thanks.
    I recently ditched my RTT for a swag. However, I'm setting up my swag on my Diamondback bed cover. This is giving me the best of both.
    With the swag on my bed cover I've:
    - Removed dangerous high center of gravity
    - Reduced cost for sleeping system, RTT $ vs. Swag $
    - Improved gas mileage ~ 4 mpg
    - Kept off ground and level sleeping feature by using truck bed cover as base for swag
    - Reduce time and hassle of tent setup & take down
    - Removed base camp mobility hassle of truck top RTT. I can actually drive at moderate speed with the swag deployed on the truck bed cover.
    - I can use my bed rack and tarps to expand my sleeping space to run a Mr. Buddy Heater, better protection from the elements and room for discrete clothes changing with my swag

  • @stormtomlinson5431
    @stormtomlinson5431 Před 2 lety

    This helped me save a bunch of money. Thanks

  • @bevanwright4309
    @bevanwright4309 Před 4 lety

    Great review mate good work got me rethinking the roof top for cape York trip

  • @gman2782
    @gman2782 Před 4 lety

    Another great vid Ronny.
    I have been fortunate to have owned them all. I have an X2 as well, and it originally had a soft shell rtt on top. Did a cape york trip with it, setup and pack up was manageable with two ppl. And yes, we got very dirty when setting and packing up!!!
    It wasn't until I started doing solo trips that I realised how much of a pain the soft shell rtt was!! So, I spoke to the finance minister, and we bought a bundutop rtt. Wow, talk about luxury!!!
    My son also has a crashpad single swag and it is fantastic, even I've contemplated taking it away instead of the X2. But the whole base camp experience with an X2 is unbeatable.
    I also have a oztent rv4 and find that to be a fantastic tent.
    However, it's hard to go past pushing a button on a bundutop, and having your bed ready to sleep in in about 20 seconds!!

  • @jaredtansley3236
    @jaredtansley3236 Před 4 lety

    Awesome info brother. Love your channel

  • @silknfeathers
    @silknfeathers Před 4 lety

    Just had our first trip with our Bush Company RTT (hardshell). It sits on our lift-off canopy set-up. Sold the Darche Panorama for the reasons you mentioned. This one is fantastic (though not cheap). We have coupled it with the Darche 180 Awning, which is also brilliant and goes up and comes down in less than 3 minutes. With the tent, we can have both packed away in around 5 minutes (no exaggeration).
    For an overnight stop you are ready for camp and ready for leaving in minutes. If we want to go for a drive we can simply leave our camp gear (tables, chairs etc.) in place and pack up the tent and awning for a quick getaway. If we are staying for a few days (base-camping) we can lift the canopy off (this takes about thirty minutes all up, so is mainly for long stays or when we want to tow the boat but leave camp set-up). All in all, the best set-up we have ever had. Not a swag lover (my background is outdoor education, so I prefer lightweight, compact ground set-ups) but must say the simple, triangulated, tie-up swags are great for the desert. Most of the new ones take longer to set up than some tents! And swags can be really dusty to pack up. ps: our boat has a bed...;-)
    As usual, good video and clear explanations, cheers.

  • @donnajohnson9324
    @donnajohnson9324 Před 4 lety

    Thank for that its cleared up a lot of me 🍻🇦🇺🦞

  • @Ian-le3bu
    @Ian-le3bu Před 4 lety

    We have swags plus a camper trailer. We have talked about a roof top tent but it’s a problem having to pack up everyday as you mentioned plus going to the toilet 🚽 overnight can be dangerous when climbing down in the dark. So good summary by the way. Cheers

  • @tlipizy
    @tlipizy Před 3 lety +1

    Here in the states we have kamp-rite tent cots, which are your swag on cots. Work great.

    • @Aussiedavid71
      @Aussiedavid71 Před 3 lety

      Got em here too mate. I've got the oversized one. Lots of condensation with the cover on. I'm gonna set it up under a tarp next time, with the cover off. Obviously only need cover if it's raining. Haven't used it in a couple of years, but gonna get back into it.

  • @jefffraser1456
    @jefffraser1456 Před 4 lety +1

    I'd like a tent/swag comparison video. Thanks Ronny.

  • @fearnobeer9077
    @fearnobeer9077 Před 4 lety

    Iv'e had them all,even still have me camper, got sick of the hasstle,now got a double swag for myself and have never looked back it's awesome

  • @DIESELTECH_ZA
    @DIESELTECH_ZA Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the content Ron! Definitely prefer ground tent / swag rather than the roof top tent! With you on that one boss! :)

  • @DeejayManii
    @DeejayManii Před 4 lety

    you make good points, my arb rooftop soft clamshell is fantastic, 5 mins up and 5 mins packdown.. and loads more room than a hardtop.

  • @autoglassmike
    @autoglassmike Před 4 lety

    I actually have a setup called a kamprite tent cot and it’s not bad. The setup is quick and breakdown is fast. Less than $200 here in the states. We will see how long it holds up. I think they are starting to get on the overlanders radar. Thanks for all the great info

  • @LiquidAudio
    @LiquidAudio Před 4 lety +2

    Great video mate as always. I love my trusty AOS swag but I have been thinking about a roof top tent. The weight and fuel thing really puts me off though.

  • @andrewbailey1886
    @andrewbailey1886 Před 4 lety

    Ive swaged it all my life but starting to think roof top tent for tray space, good video mate keep up the good work

  • @gregholding9483
    @gregholding9483 Před 4 lety

    Great, thanks Ronny!

  • @arokinikop5345
    @arokinikop5345 Před 3 lety

    Like the metallica reference...big fan of ur channel keep bringing some great content

  • @johanneswehrmann
    @johanneswehrmann Před 3 lety

    My camp car is a Suzuki Jimny and I have an Oztent RS-1 Swag that fits perfectly on the Frontrunner roof rack. That combination seems to be gold. 💥😁

  • @Ruger41mag
    @Ruger41mag Před 4 lety +7

    yes - swag vs ground tent ..... please

  • @coreycarpenter2489
    @coreycarpenter2489 Před 4 lety

    I wanted a rooftop tent until I saw this. There were a lot of cons I didn't even think about. Thanks!

    • @iantru9929
      @iantru9929 Před 4 lety

      If u could afford a hardshell rrt. Who cares about a couple more extra dollar of gas?

  • @TheJafreema
    @TheJafreema Před 4 lety +3

    Yes on ground ⛺ vs. Swag!

  • @MrGnugfur
    @MrGnugfur Před 4 lety

    Just bought a Simpson III rooftop soft tent. Easy enough to setup. Even us beeing short and having it on a Tahoe, we have it setup in 5 minutes.

  • @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen

    We use an enclosed side awning on the 4x4. This isn't something many people seem to consider but we think it is a pretty good option.

  • @rubiconazza
    @rubiconazza Před 4 lety

    Awesome comparison

  • @k2svpete
    @k2svpete Před 4 lety

    I've got a few choices to work with.
    Solo - Bourke & Wills single swag that I've had for 20 years.
    With the wife - Double swag.
    Family - Tent if we're off-roading, camper trailer (soft floor) if touring.
    Ground sheet and awning over the top for everything but the camper.

  • @Papershields001
    @Papershields001 Před 4 lety

    I love his trailer setup

  • @quantametric
    @quantametric Před 4 lety +1

    Hey Ronny, great video as always. It's probably a little silly of me but I just wanted to point out that 'pros and cons' do not use apostrophes, grammatically speaking. Thanks again mate.

  • @jamesbushy9031
    @jamesbushy9031 Před 4 lety +1

    I do both and i love them it just depends where im going n what im doing

  • @pinealism
    @pinealism Před 2 lety

    I always have friends ask for advice before camp trips, overnight or long term. My advice is to prepare for the worst conditions you can imagine, sideways rain, high winds hot and cold. The most robust sleeping in this case is a low centre of gravity tear drop trailer or some kind of folding fibreglass set up. Fabric is shit even after one night of rain, let alone two days of rain etc.

  • @matthewhighland109
    @matthewhighland109 Před 4 lety

    I set up a hootchie/tarpaulin over my swag, as it can deflect the wind, keep the rain off & store boots and equipment!

  • @aussiebee4
    @aussiebee4 Před 4 lety

    Great info. ARB has some newer swags with water resistant floors. I see many RTT that are ornaments over the bed restricting its use. I use tents when it is below freezing, and when it's warmer having a hammock, as long as there are trees sufficient for holding up a hammock. I run a rope and tarp over top and I have slept through heavy rain storms and cool weather. I recently picked up a Tentsile trillium 3 person hammock. It I great to sprawl out and be up off the ground, plus there are lots to make it a 4 season tent. But it requires sturdy trees. It's kind of like a swiss family Robinson treehouse.

  • @JustinCaseWages
    @JustinCaseWages Před 4 lety +1

    RTTs work well for pickup trucks here in the USA. You can keep the tent even with the roofline for better center of gravity and fuel economy. With a well designed bed rack the RTT also serves as a cover for the bed to help reduce water, snow and dust covering any gear you have in the bed. Coupled with a good tarp you can keep gear almost completely dry/clean. For snow or wet weather camping I much prefer a RTT. Hard shells are great if you don't need a lot of space and can afford them but at half the price a soft shell gets the job done.

  • @duanetribe3543
    @duanetribe3543 Před 4 lety

    Swag any day had mine for a few years now and one of my best camping things

  • @jackduncan6304
    @jackduncan6304 Před 3 lety

    cant go wrong with a canvas swag so warm and weather proof

  • @garthhayward9581
    @garthhayward9581 Před 4 lety +4

    Depends what weather conditions and environment your dealing with Ronny. Personal choice is a hardtop roof tent. Done my time sleeping on the ground 😂

    • @tegunn
      @tegunn Před 4 lety

      Yes it all depends on the environment. Base camp in snow-ground tent(with a wood burning stove-truly cozy!) In the southern US, fire ants are a pain-literally sometimes.

  • @crustycrowley
    @crustycrowley Před 4 lety +2

    I have been living in the James Baroud featured in this review for the past 8 months. The fly mesh in the latest version of this tent has very large holes which do not stop mosquitos getting in. Also recently the fan has started leaking water (misery for such an expensive piece of equipment). I also have a swag and 2 ground tents which have their purpose however most of the time I am in the RTT. If buying an RTT look at alternatives such as The Bush Company or Alu-cab.

    • @51mondays
      @51mondays Před 4 lety

      crustycrowley Autohome, the best! Italian made. Finally being stocked in Aus by theoverlanders.com.au

    • @crustycrowley
      @crustycrowley Před 4 lety

      @@51mondays i wish these had been here in Aus before i lashed out and purchased the JB

  • @Choppies3
    @Choppies3 Před 4 lety

    Hi Ronny. Thanks for the video. Please do a video on the difference between a ground tent and a swag. Thanks

  • @redwolfden7930
    @redwolfden7930 Před 4 lety

    love that trapdoor spider, hope she didnt get hurt!, i would love a tent vs swag video!