I Don't Like Rumours|Vinyl Monday

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
  • Yesterday’s gone, don’t you look back
    Welcome (or welcome back) to Vinyl Monday! I’m Abby and is my weekly series where I chat about classic albums in my collection that I love. Most of the time. Here are my thoughts on the record I just can’t get on board with: Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours (released 1977.) Subscribe for more Vinyl Monday and vintage fashion!
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    Timestamps:
    intro - 0:00
    Rumours - 1:31
    track listing/release - 13:40
    my thoughts - 16:37
    thanks for watching! - 32:48
    Music:
    Intro Music: Yeah Yeah Yeah (Long) by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (creativecommons.org/licenses/...) Artist: audionautix.com/
    Outtro Music: Ticket To Nowhere Man by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (creativecommons.org/licenses/...) Artist: audionautix.com/
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Komentáře • 725

  • @abigaildevoe
    @abigaildevoe  Před 10 měsíci +32

    what classic album do you just not like? comment below!

    • @davidellis5141
      @davidellis5141 Před 10 měsíci +46

      The Wall by Pink Floyd

    • @luissegovia8205
      @luissegovia8205 Před 10 měsíci +29

      Any of Bruce spreengsten álbum

    • @georgemathie8123
      @georgemathie8123 Před 10 měsíci +33

      The Eagles hotel California no matter what I've tried just can't get into it

    • @kelistigerz9898
      @kelistigerz9898 Před 10 měsíci +24

      Floyd's Animals! Everyone loves it & I just don't get it.

    • @ianemery4355
      @ianemery4355 Před 10 měsíci +18

      Well I'm going to be controversial I am a minority but I do not like Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen!! I like Darkness on the edge of town album! I like Bruce Springsteen but I just don't like Born to run!! When I hear the title track I have to run!! Sorry for upsetting millions of people who have this album!!

  • @chaunceyphillips
    @chaunceyphillips Před 10 měsíci +31

    When I was in high school, there was a girl who claimed she was dating Lindsay Buckingham. Many of us were sceptical until we saw a Ferrari pull up with Lindsay behind the wheel. He took off with the girl.
    There's a story you won't get anywhere else. Sleep tight.

    • @PaulBryant-cc8ox
      @PaulBryant-cc8ox Před 3 měsíci +2

      Someone at my school claimed the same about Glenn Tillbrook from Squeeze, but he never pulled up in a Ferrari.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před měsícem

      Lindsay Buckingham is many things. A groomer is not one of them.

  • @vangrod8510
    @vangrod8510 Před 10 měsíci +79

    Christine is truly the unsung heroine of all... loved her from the first hearing, singing in the Morning Rain.

    • @archieleechjb
      @archieleechjb Před 10 měsíci +5

      In a just world, "Why?," "Heroes Are Hard to Find," "Remember Me," and "Show Me a Smile" would have been Top 20 songs which would pop up on radio occasionally.

    • @bobstuckrath1805
      @bobstuckrath1805 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes!@@archieleechjb

    • @MauriceBoone-jm2xu
      @MauriceBoone-jm2xu Před 10 měsíci +2

      Her voice is angelic.. "As Long As you Follow"

    • @chrismarzoli2170
      @chrismarzoli2170 Před 9 měsíci +1

      You said it! Spot on. She was the MVP.

    • @MundaSquire
      @MundaSquire Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@archieleechjbLoved her pre Buck/Nick's stuff. Spare me a little was a grateful tune.

  • @BABYCHAOS26
    @BABYCHAOS26 Před 10 měsíci +46

    I think Rumours is perfect in every way, it is what it is, couldn’t imagine it any other way.

    • @reverb508
      @reverb508 Před 10 měsíci

      Same here. Perfect album

    • @williamb.8059
      @williamb.8059 Před 10 měsíci

      Perfect album. I totally enjoyed this episode. You are such a great hostess. Thanks!

  • @kingofthesnakes2396
    @kingofthesnakes2396 Před 10 měsíci +23

    I love every era of Fleetwood Mac. If i hadn't heard rumours, i never would have listened to their early stuff.

  • @crichards1986
    @crichards1986 Před 10 měsíci +41

    If the record was rawer, it would never have sold a gazillion copies. It's the production blend combined with the emotional heft that sent it off into the stratosphere. Of course, there are better records, more emotional records, grittier records, but few records that balance it all as well as Rumours. It's not perfect, but it strikes an emotional chord for many, unlike few records have ever done. There are strong feelings in the lyrics here, and the production makes it go down easy for the masses.

    • @philuribe7863
      @philuribe7863 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Exactly this. Rumours was the album that us teenagers could play to our parents and they liked it. Usually this would be a kiss of death, of course, but Rumours got away with it.

  • @effdonahue6595
    @effdonahue6595 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I heard a rumor you don’t like rumors 🤓

  • @VallinSFAS
    @VallinSFAS Před 10 měsíci +9

    And actually Silver Spring is one of my favourite Macsongs. I had a lovely time in that city in 1977, and I'm a constantly heartbroken witch.

  • @astronomical13
    @astronomical13 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I like how you can talk in all caps but you’re not really screaming.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 Před 10 měsíci +51

    In 1977 I was washing dishes in a restaurant on Maui. I slept in the restaurant as rent in Hawaii is insane. My boss would host visiting rockstars and often they would take up his offer to accommodate them. I met George Harrison. Half of the songs on Rumors owned the radiowaves. Fleetwood Mac (I owned a few of their earlier Peter Green albums back in the day) came to Maui to look for houses to buy and play a local concert. I snuck into the concert and left because besides the awesome rhythm section I couldn't stand watching Stevie Nick's performance - she's fine, I just don't like her performance, singing, dancing...Stevie, for a few weeks, would waft into the restaurant with her entourage of 5 or six folk. She always looked miserable, like she could barely hold an expression of indifference. I thought, this is the number one album on Earth and she's miserable. I made 2 bucks an hour and lived on leftovers and mangoes. John McVie (who I had seen in the Bluebreakers in 1969) would come in the late afternoon when there were few people about, sit in the long center table in the main dining room and he would nurse a drink for an hour, staring straight ahead, then he would leave. The employees like my music choices, I would keep the kitchen humming with Iggy Pop and Television and blues greats, all from my cassette collection.

    • @joepermenter7228
      @joepermenter7228 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Art courts misery, not to mention staying up all night all the time on cocaine.

  • @tikaedits
    @tikaedits Před 10 měsíci +25

    I love Rumours! When I discovered the album, I listened to The Chain probably 100 times 😄 But I don't see the problem with other people not liking it. We all have different tastes, which makes your channel that much more interesting!

  • @tgforty5
    @tgforty5 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Here's a strange thing....even though I agree with everything you said, I actually like this album even more after hearing your review.

  • @keithhanisek2465
    @keithhanisek2465 Před 10 měsíci +16

    I love all the apologists who just "now" decided Rumours sucks. 😆. It isn't my favorite album in the discography but it's a classic album for a reason. Solid gold

    • @jeffkaufman9875
      @jeffkaufman9875 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @keith I believe these “apologists apologizing” are closely, incestuously-akin to those “players only love you when they’re playing” players shamefully shamelessly-courting the approval of their hostess!..

  • @Gearhart_Music
    @Gearhart_Music Před 7 měsíci +5

    There's a saying that keeps coming back to me. "Don't shit where you eat" Your comment about "don't Fuck your bandmates" is very much along the same vein, if not more direct and to the point.

  • @richierugs6544
    @richierugs6544 Před 10 měsíci +6

    the video of Silver Spring is so awesome the way she sings --you'll never get away----the look in her eyes speaks voluminously

    • @abigaildevoe
      @abigaildevoe  Před 10 měsíci +3

      yes 1997 silver springs was incredible

  • @KansasRocker
    @KansasRocker Před 10 měsíci +7

    I like this album, but I appreciate your take on it. It's always refreshing to get a different perspective. Keep being your amazing self. You do such a great job with your content. Thank you!

  • @freelywheely
    @freelywheely Před 10 měsíci +28

    Favorite Mac albums are definitely Bare Trees & Future Games. Danny Kirwan was incredible! Rip Danny

    • @syater
      @syater Před 10 měsíci +3

      You said it !

    • @tuskedbeast
      @tuskedbeast Před 10 měsíci +4

      My two favorites as well!

    • @cindyurban150
      @cindyurban150 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Both very beautiful,"Cerebral" albums.

    • @glennandadriansrocktalk
      @glennandadriansrocktalk Před 10 měsíci +4

      exaclty mine too. agree on Danny.

    • @marktait2371
      @marktait2371 Před 10 měsíci +1

      freely 100.degess here today so delving into records repkaced the sleeve on bare trees

  • @fernandoperdomomusic
    @fernandoperdomomusic Před 10 měsíci +4

    "she's not like most girls" ...... This is why Im an Abby Lifer... thank you for being honest and thorough... keep on being you ...

  • @InWalkedBud752
    @InWalkedBud752 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I'm obsessed with your kaleidoscope/austin powers transitions. You really nailed a great aesthetic with these

  • @stevecowder4774
    @stevecowder4774 Před 10 měsíci +15

    To a certain degree, I can understand the ridicule of the songs on this album being bludgeoned to death with airplay. But it’s really no different from hundreds of other classic, legendary albums out of the 70s.
    Tensions were obviously high between band members and they were having to depend on that Southern California “ Snowball “ scene in order to get by. However Abby, you’ve provided some deeper insights to this piece than what I already knew. This album may have been an overplayed soap opera, but all things considered, I can appreciate the valiant efforts put forth by FM in releasing one of the most treasured albums of all time. And yet I’m still a fan of the Peter Green era as well. Go figure 😆. As always Abby, an excellent review !!

  • @gregorybrown3272
    @gregorybrown3272 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video!! I can't wait to see more! It is important to keep the artform of Music Albums alive. I like how well you expressed your mixed feelings about this record, it is a thorny record to love. You just earned a new subscriber, and I am looking forward to seeing more of these deep dives!

  • @c11p
    @c11p Před 10 měsíci +4

    A Ghirlandaio reference???
    Abby, I hope you have a long life with your channel.
    You are must-watch viewing every week, and you get better and better.

    • @abigaildevoe
      @abigaildevoe  Před 10 měsíci

      thanks! the ghirlandaio nod was bound to happen eventually haha

  • @mattbarr7050
    @mattbarr7050 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thanks for all you do; great job on this one!

  • @PeterBondeVillain
    @PeterBondeVillain Před 10 měsíci +4

    I love the format of including albums you don’t love! Good stuff

  • @dominikdaigneault7095
    @dominikdaigneault7095 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Very interesting and thought-provoking perspective, thank you for that! It is fascinating how Rumors has consistently been widespread over so many decades and there is something about the artists' emotion and talent that will undoubtedly keep the album beloved by many. Personally, I love the album but also agree with your perspective and it has made me see the album in a new way, I need to listen to the alternate version to compare the mixing/feel of the work.

  • @lindaeasley5606
    @lindaeasley5606 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Despite all the problems with the production of this album ,it still wound up selling 40 million copies worldwide making it the 6th best selling album of the 1970s and 9th all time .
    Lindsey was a perfectionist and a damn good song writer. Their intent was stated up front to make it a pop album and they made it one of the greatest of all time.
    I know Fleetwood Mac was not everyone's cup of tea but they put out some classic hits that millions of people loved .That can't be denied

  • @ronaldiii9416
    @ronaldiii9416 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I got this album as a birthday present in '77 or '78. I stayed with marijuana use and never went on to harder drugs, unlike what people were saying at the time. And I attribute that to this album, hard to believe.

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black Před 5 měsíci +1

    Also, I enjoy how much of a clever person you are with these lyrical insights. I think you’re usually very much dead on.

  • @timnil
    @timnil Před 10 měsíci +5

    This was great, Abby. Your analysis is spot on. Can’t to hear you take on Tusk with Buckingham’s further madness, the USC marching band and further alchemical stimulation. 😂

  • @7bestthings
    @7bestthings Před 10 měsíci

    A great and very informative review, I learned a lot about the making of Rumours. I love Rumours because it is so polished, but I did not realize just how far they went in perfecting the sound of this album. Once again, Patty Boyd, the muse of all great albums, is somehow connected to the making of this album. Thanks for all your great work!

  • @starshiptrooper7670
    @starshiptrooper7670 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Oh Abby, you may have ruffled some feathers on this one girl. I was 20 when this one hit. Every girl loved it, and their boyfriends better have the 8-track or cassette for the car. The radio wore it out!! I never had it, but I thought it was very good for what it was. I see why it sold. The album before, 'Fleetwood Mac' was more for me. It's the first with Stevie and Lindsey in the band. I love it. Watch your back, I've heard "Rumors" of the Fleetwood Mac Fan Club putting out "hits" on people who've done much less. Abigail, we've all grown too fond of you to lose you now. Don't go out unescorted at night, young lady! 🤠

  • @neil6958
    @neil6958 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You do really great album reviews!

  • @jmfloyd23
    @jmfloyd23 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video Abby! You went in-depth on every track. I was in 5th grade when Rumors came out. I can remember it as yesterday coming home with the dreams 45rpm single and playing it several times. The recording production of you make loving fun is really good.

    • @abigaildevoe
      @abigaildevoe  Před 10 měsíci +1

      thanks! i try my best to at least address every track, since it's a single LP i can go in depth

  • @michaelwilson2340
    @michaelwilson2340 Před 10 měsíci +8

    They were an example of why the Ramones were needed.

    • @adamfindlay7091
      @adamfindlay7091 Před 2 měsíci

      The Peter Green Mac is earthy blues and pure stripped down blues not unlike the bowery boys' ultimatum 53&3rd.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před měsícem

      No, they really weren't. The late '70s punk movement was more an antithesis to indulgent prog rock, arena rock, and disco.

  • @tuskedbeast
    @tuskedbeast Před 10 měsíci +3

    Very cerebral review, and your perspective, 46 years after it was released, is fascinating. I was a SoCal teenager when this LP hit, and the place this music lived was on FM radio. It's produced to sound good in a car or at the beach, not to be listened to too critically, and to sell gazillions. On those terms it was a total success. So it's interesting to hear how this comes off to a smart young listener in 2023.

  • @LesleyHunter-ic9to
    @LesleyHunter-ic9to Před 10 měsíci

    You did a fantastic job featuring Rumors! I first heard Rumors when I was around 3 years old remembering hearing The Chain and You Make Loving Fun with my mom. I have been a Fleetwood Mac fan and collector ever since. Thank You.

  • @ralphbolton4865
    @ralphbolton4865 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi Abigail, We got to see Stevie in concert last year, and the version of Gold Dust Woman was amazing the way the band stretched out. What a backing band! I am looking forward to the live Rumours record. Always look forward to your videos, thanks!

  • @johndrx165
    @johndrx165 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I saw them live during this time and they were a great live band!

  • @jmckenzie962
    @jmckenzie962 Před 10 měsíci

    When I first saw the title I immediately sang it in my head to the tune of "I Don't Like Mondays" lmao. Great video, nice to finally see someone else who doesn't really get all the hype around this album.

  • @michaelshiflett4835
    @michaelshiflett4835 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I wonder if the silver spoon reference was about the subject being born into wealth? It just hit me after all these years.

  • @ericfultz9429
    @ericfultz9429 Před 10 měsíci +1

    well done Abigail, good job of story telling and i like your analysis of the record, maybe what you said about the song being overwhelmed by the production sums it up well. cheers

  • @mrazteacher
    @mrazteacher Před 10 měsíci +2

    Being a young person you’re able to be objective. I find that most of my favorite albums from the 70s fall into 2 categories. Albums that are genuinely amazing and albums that are amazing because I associate them with fond memories.

  • @creeder44
    @creeder44 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Love your video more than the record. This came out when I was just starting to work my way through college by doing radio airshifts at night, so I heard all the singles a million times. I thought they were okay; good pop songs, but I never had any strong feelings about them one way or the other. I was more into Elvis Costello and Joe Jackson at the time.
    I do recall that when "Tusk" came out, my partner George and I were doing a college morning show. The PD got the advance single, rushed in and told us to play it. George asked, "Have you listened to it?" He said no. George said, "I'm not playing a record that nobody's even heard yet. What if it stinks?" The PD insisted that we had to play it just because it was Fleetwood Mac's followup to "Rumours," but George didn't care. It was the first thing played after our show ended. It eventually stalled out at #8 on the charts so I think his refusal to let bands coast on past successes was correct.
    PS - In that photo of Lindsay where you said he's your type, he looks a bit like Cliff Campbell from the group Fair To Midland, who is my cousin.

  • @KitKrash
    @KitKrash Před 10 měsíci +4

    My favorites: 1. Then Played On (the best Fleetwood Mac album) followed by 2. Future Games 3. Bare Trees and 4. Kiln House…the rest I don’t care for. What is in common? Danny Kirwan

    • @abigaildevoe
      @abigaildevoe  Před 10 měsíci +2

      the danny kirwan era is my favorite too!

  • @butterflyparalyzed
    @butterflyparalyzed Před 10 měsíci +1

    this is the first time i've listened to an album specifically for vinyl monday

  • @fieldroaster21
    @fieldroaster21 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Best video thumbnail ever 🤣

  • @terencestephenmoss2159
    @terencestephenmoss2159 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Love the album 🎉 Your knowledge about the in's and out's of the events backstage, onstage and band politics are very impressive 🎉

  • @autismguy2060
    @autismguy2060 Před 7 měsíci

    That was beautiful Abigail thank you😅

  • @geodog6854
    @geodog6854 Před 10 měsíci +2

    As a high-schooler in the late 70s, Rumors was inescapable. It was everywhere on the radio, so I didn't bother buying the album until much later. A local DJ, here in Austin, would play "Silver Spring" on the radio now and then and I thought it was amazing. When they came out with the boxed set, it mystified me why it wasn't included. Now I know why!

  • @Nick-qf7vt
    @Nick-qf7vt Před 7 měsíci +1

    Oh thank God someone who feels the same way I do about the album. This is pop music for cokeheads still stuck in the late 70s. Makes me so thankful that punk rock came along to kick it in the ass.

  • @williamkinsey8174
    @williamkinsey8174 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Skiing 😂
    Abigail humour at its best 😅

  • @mikeknowles5848
    @mikeknowles5848 Před 10 měsíci +11

    I think you've nailed the shortcomings of this record.

  • @wilhelmhagberg4897
    @wilhelmhagberg4897 Před 16 dny

    YEEAHH! I thought I was the only one!

  • @jasonarsenault3791
    @jasonarsenault3791 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You explained your point very well Abigail. I was Leary to hear someone sh*t on this 😂… but I totally get your point. Basically, it’s just not gritty enough to reflect the time the band was having outside the studio. Interesting take. Appreciate it.
    Also. Love your take on gold dust woman. It’s my fav track.

  • @StreetCarNamedLuLu
    @StreetCarNamedLuLu Před 4 měsíci

    For many years, their song Morning Rain was my fave. It's weird that I've never noticed Mick's hacky sack on the cover until you pointed them out. Now I can't unsee them. Blech!

  • @malcolmsmith5271
    @malcolmsmith5271 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I’m fairly ambivalent about Rumours, it’s an album I have to be in the mood to listen to. I can certainly understand why it has achieved classic status. The songs are, in the main okay which paint a picture of the LA/West Coast scene at the time, and break ups always seem to get the creative juices flowing.
    If I recall correctly, it was a slow burner here in the UK and only in later years was its cultural relevance taken on board…but I might be mistaken about that as it was a long time ago.
    Congratulations, another really cool deep dive.

  • @peteza4893
    @peteza4893 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Happy Monday

  • @namesameasu
    @namesameasu Před 10 měsíci +4

    1978 was the year the 60s were officially dead and the success of Rumours being officially categorized as "soft rock" helped herald in that tragedy. All it needed was some guitar feedback somewhere. Rock and roll could've been saved!

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 Před 10 měsíci +2

    My parents used to crank this on the Pinto when we headed to Malibu to hang out with Julie Andrews and Blake Edwards. I've known a lot of interesting people.

  • @wvbeatlefan
    @wvbeatlefan Před 10 měsíci

    Excellent review as always. Rumors came out when I was10 but I didn't buy it until a couple years later. Since then it's been in my top 10 (ok, maybe 20). I still love it but you definitely opened my eyes to some of its flaws.

  • @ailurophile71
    @ailurophile71 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Having first really listened to this album via the 5.1 surrond DVD-Audio some 20 years ago, what I heard was spellbinding. I'm not the type to dig into the lyrics until later. So while I'm not disregarding their importance, this album for me is first and foremost a frankly wondrous creation of melody and harmony and expert songwriting and musicianship. Whether that or the production then turns out to be in the best service of the "breakup album" emotional/lyrical content is subjective, for sure. Stevie described "Dreams" as an "open and hopeful" response to "Go Your Own Way," personally I always heard it as a sort of darkly beguiling but resigned "just-you-wait-and-see." I think depending on how you hold that song and her delivery up to the light, the production can be considered quite lovely. But maybe the band would have agreed with you about too pretty, restrained, and reserved because at first they found it too boring to include. It sounds like you might have a crummy pressing; here's how one person described Dreams on a good pressing, "Ideally the bass is very prominent on this track. It should be way up in the mix, loud, tight and note-like, with the guitar and kick drum clearly separated. It absolutely drives the song; the copies that got the bass right on this track really came to life." A.k.a., not thin. The best pressings are considered demo-your way-too-expensive-system-for-your-friends quality. Anyway, great video as always, brave; mad respect.

    • @ailurophile71
      @ailurophile71 Před 10 měsíci +1

      BTW it's clearly not apples-to-apples, but if anyone really wants to hear more of what's going on on this album, highly recommend seeking out a band-approved (I'm not sure about this spatial audio stuff) surround mix. The songs really open up and breathe, while enveloping. It's a "you have to come hear this" moment.

  • @TRamone01
    @TRamone01 Před 9 měsíci

    Now I've got Silver Springs in my mind. Thanks for excellent thoughts on Rumours.

  • @djinnmagik2003
    @djinnmagik2003 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I love Fleetwood Mac's "Rumors" album 😁💖🎶 Magik from beginning to end

  • @daveeckels6479
    @daveeckels6479 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Had to throw it on as a protest listen to that nonsense!! 😂😂 Just messin with ya! Keep it up, dig listening to your mondays!!

  • @PapaGoat666
    @PapaGoat666 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank You! Glad I'm not the only one who holds this opinion

  • @jupitermadcat
    @jupitermadcat Před 10 měsíci

    thats ok i grew up with it i remember buying it when it came out. i love it.

  • @dougmarlow4626
    @dougmarlow4626 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’ll never forget watching Fleetwood Mac perform Go Your Own Way on The Midnight Special in 1977 with a group of Jr High friends. Stevie Nicks looked so beautiful and mysterious singing backup in that black top hat.

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu Před 7 měsíci +2

    I had to back into Fleetwood Mac. They were so big in the 70s that you were almost required to get their albums just because they were so big. And I didn't really start buying albums until around '80 or 81 in my high school years. I loved Stevie's first solo album, and then went back and dug into the Fleetwood Mac albums. It's only much more recently that I started digging into the earlier pre-Buckingham Nicks albums. And the Buckingham Nicks album itself, before they joined Fleetwood Mac. I really like the 70-74 period, because you can clearly see a band in in development, and going through changes. You can see, album by album, Christine coming into her own as a songwriter, and feel the pain and regret that they didn't have more success with Bob Welch in the band.

  • @MrModelworx
    @MrModelworx Před 10 měsíci

    I have to agree Abbi, I like the songs, I hate the lack of cohesiveness and the "rumours" package.
    Subjective because it's one of the most popular albums of the 70s.
    Just good to hear from you what I've been thinking for years.
    Excellent review.

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Rumours does future the awesome track ..The Chain ⛓️ ..Love The Bass 🔊

  • @pierangelomusumeci2556
    @pierangelomusumeci2556 Před 10 měsíci +4

    this girl i've been dating for a few months knows i collect records andd she gifted me rumours by fleetwood mac
    i'm grateful of course but i didn't have the courage to tell her i've never got the rumours hype and i think it's really meh, thanks abby for making me feel seen

  • @peterjetnikoff
    @peterjetnikoff Před 10 měsíci

    My memory of this record is fused with the previous one. Back in '76 there was a live clip of the band doing Rhiannon which had this brilliant frenzied outro with Nicks screaming her lungs out. It got my attention but I didn't get the LP. Then in what seems about two minutes later this one came out. My brother and I were in adjacent rooms which, in form with old North Queensland standards featured walls that stopped short of the ceiling to enhance airflow. So, when Stephen, whose musical tastes were entirely determined by what other kids at school preferred, got a friend to tape both he listened to the cassette in a portable from the '60s with a scratchy speaker. And then he listened to it more. And more. When he wasn't listening to that he was waking me up with short wave radio casts of the cricket when Australia was playing in England (in U.K. time, of course). He was more violent than I was so I really had to let him and those who are allowed do. And he did. I was long on the path with punk by then so this was already sounding like old people's music to me (see also Eagles, Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan and I'm already exhausted from writing those names) so hearing Rumors like this was like witnessing the Hindenberg disaster every night until even Stephen got sick of it. Later, mixing with other musos who had taken the record up as a kind of indy rock template (no, they wouldn't be informed), I gave it another listen. Gave it a few minutes before visions of The Hindenberg returned in massive fiery torment. So, I dislike it for different reasons. Great video though. For which, thanks.

  • @rikstrange662
    @rikstrange662 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Never be afraid to speak your mind. Good show. 🖖🚀

  • @kwd-kwd
    @kwd-kwd Před 10 měsíci +3

    those balls are older than this LP, he is wearing them in the "rattlesnake shake" video here on you tube. that video has Peter Green on vocals. Silver springs was played here in my area, so we knew it because Stevie got the Idea for the title when she saw a town in my state on the sign, which was "Silver Spring" MD.

  • @williamkinsey8174
    @williamkinsey8174 Před 7 měsíci +1

    All people remember is the final album
    They have absolutely no idea how stressful the whole process can be
    Particularly if you're brilliant guitar solo gets erased!🤯😭
    And this happened all the time
    That irreplaceable moment was lost to carelessness in the studio.

  • @kevinogracia1615
    @kevinogracia1615 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Early Fleet was groovy.
    "Tusk" is kinda cool.
    Peace on earth.

  • @franksherman1774
    @franksherman1774 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I was prepared for the worst...
    and it turns out you like it more than I do!

  • @robertlee4172
    @robertlee4172 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Rumours was the backdrop soundtrack, of my youth. What played on the FM during long 12 hour shifts during my lackadaisical boring summer job, deep frying food and mopping up messy leftovers from the previous careless patron. A throwaway part time summer job, before my next year in high school. Pop music that seemingly was as pedestrian as the one hit wonders of the day. It turned out, to my amusement, that it was the biggest charting album of that summer. I only found out about this 30 years later, while searching on the web. In retrospect, some of the best tunes produced out of California, during that era.

  • @johncollier9280
    @johncollier9280 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I've been a Fleetwood Mac fan throughout all the evolutions. For a rare glimpse into what eventually became Rumours I recommend a live album from 1975, a radio broadcast recorded in Passaic, NJ shortly after the Fleetwood Mac (with Buckingham/Nicks) album was released but before anyone knew if it would take off called Life Becomes A Landslide. They included Station Man 'n Hypnotized in the playlist as well as tracks from the recent album. Here's the "new" Fleetwood Mac givin' an excellent performance but unsure what the future would hold. Great stuff!

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 Před 10 měsíci

    I like the solar ad 20 seconds in

  • @thatguy7410
    @thatguy7410 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Fun fact, You Make Loving Fun is about Dennis Wilson. He and Christine were dating at the time, and that opened up the chance for Lindsay Buckingham getting his hands on some Smile tapes that inspired the songs on Tusk

    • @randyoleson
      @randyoleson Před 10 měsíci +1

      Actually, it was inspired by an affair Christine McVie had with the band's lighting director, Curry Grant.

  • @BillabongJim
    @BillabongJim Před 10 měsíci +2

    I am trying to listen to more music than just the beatles, bob dlyan, and pink floyd. So from now on i will be listening to whatever album is covered weekly.

  • @glennandadriansrocktalk
    @glennandadriansrocktalk Před 10 měsíci +1

    Yay contrary views! I've always considered this to be a covertly semi-psychedelic album. I think that keyboard at the top of "Don't Stop" that sounds stringy is the ARP String Ensemble - found in lots of 1970s-80s recordings such as Elton's Someone Saved My Life Tonight or Zebra: Who's Behind The Door.
    You just showed us that you can do a great overview even for albums you don't like. Just think of that door swinging wide open! :) Great job. - G

  • @mjproebstle
    @mjproebstle Před 19 dny

    I get it - you like what you like. Certain groups just have a collective pull be it nostalgia, marketing/promotion (Dreams has long since been worn out being still over-played yet to this day ad nausium on the radio), and touring frequency. I did see them live a few years back with the full group including Christine. They were flawless. Your comments regarding Lindsay Buckingham being a d*ckhead are probably warranted, however I will say that seeing him live gave me an appreciation of his contribution to the band, his incredible talent and musical flexibility. Talent of that level can unfortunately aspire to an other-than-worldly opinion of themselves. I’ve heard this is also true of Joe Walsh, whom I’ve also seen live, who is also an amazing talent and incredibly gifted, very demanding and settles for nothing but perfection. Also Rogers Waters as you so eloquently pointed out in your review of The Wall album. Awesome channel! Cheers!

  • @Juan-wo7zu
    @Juan-wo7zu Před 10 měsíci +1

    I agree with your take on this one

  • @joshsinclair1796
    @joshsinclair1796 Před 9 měsíci

    Hell yes I knew you had good taste

  • @BuffaloC305
    @BuffaloC305 Před 10 měsíci

    Glad to know that.

  • @nordland2235
    @nordland2235 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Their fan base felt let down when they changed from a blues rock band to a pop rock band.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před 10 měsíci +7

      Pre-1975 Fleetwood Mac and post-1975 Fleetwood Mac are basically two different bands.

    • @donleblanc2669
      @donleblanc2669 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@BrendanJSmith The Peter Green original band was completely stellar in every way ..... The Rumours " POPPY " version MAKES ME WANNA VOMIT !!!!

    • @fallspeed
      @fallspeed Před 10 měsíci +4

      That happened years before Buckingham & Nicks joined.

    • @stevehoran5595
      @stevehoran5595 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@BrendanJSmith The lineup was in close to perpetual change before 1975. It was a gradual change from blues to pop and that started while Peter was still in the band.

    • @konowd
      @konowd Před 10 měsíci +1

      Tom Ross, a major music agent at CAA, came up with the idea to put Buckingham Nicks into Fleetwood Mac and the rest is history

  • @ratbones620
    @ratbones620 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Ok I’m gonna be honest, I was more terrified to hear what you had to say about “The Chain”. Im glad we both agree how hard that song goes.

  • @kellyr9949
    @kellyr9949 Před 10 měsíci +1

    After the white album i bought this record as soon as it came out it was played alot on the radio as a stevie lover luv her and chris songs when i listened to the album over and over then i went to the concert the rumors tour and that changed everything for me and it made luv the album i know it has its flaws but jus ta great breakup album silver springs i did buy the single it became my favorite from this album the video of it is so wonderful

  • @chuckybastard
    @chuckybastard Před 10 měsíci +1

    This used to be my favorite Fleetwood Mac album…until I listened to “Then Play On”. That album blew my mind immediately! Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac slaps way harder than the other Fleetwood Mac

  • @thechronicnoizeco.6675
    @thechronicnoizeco.6675 Před 10 měsíci +2

    If we combined the best stuff on the self titled album with this one it would live up to the hype.

  • @chrisnicol1644
    @chrisnicol1644 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Abby... I recently bought Fleetwood Mac Rumours 'Live'...And it's pretty damn good...

  • @DivebombDemon
    @DivebombDemon Před 10 měsíci +4

    I just wanna say that I am a big fan of Fantano moments.

  • @PhilBaird1
    @PhilBaird1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thanks Abby. Having just watched your video I think you're too easy on it. It's nowhere near as emotionally raw, truthful and real as Blue or Blood On The Tracks. Any magic it had was ironed out and mostly lost in the studio. There's a reason that Christine's 'Songbird' is the best track on the album. Subscribed and a thumbs up.

  • @stereo999
    @stereo999 Před 10 měsíci +1

    If you grew up in the70s you heard DREAMS on the radio so many times that you were totally sick of all things Fleetwood Mac by the end of the decade, but like all classics, it has endured over the years. 1977 was the time of Steely Dan AJA and it became a contest to make the smoothest and slickest mainstream rock albums possible in the music industry (and punk was emerging to fight against this and for music fans it seemed like a war and we had to choose a side).
    Thanks for another video that possessed me to dig through my records to see if I had everything you were talking about. I looked everywhere for my crusty CD of Rumours to see if it had Silver Springs (it didn't - but turns out I do have the 45)
    cheers

  • @EmmanuelPehau
    @EmmanuelPehau Před 10 měsíci +1

    I too prefer the live versions of the songs. It took me a while to fully embrace Rulers. The "tuxedo and limousine" production certainly functioned as a barrier for me. But I kept coming back to the album, mainly because of Christine McVie's out-of-this-world voice and her affirmative and almost peerless songwriting. (With the years, I've learned to put her right up with the best pop songwriters of that era, right on the same tier as Paul McCartney and the Bernie Taupin / Elton John combo, which were in actuality her neighbors on the charts.) And after a while I git used to the production and even get feelings of nostalgia from it since it is so typical of the late seventies / early eighties, which were the years of my early childhood. As always, it was a pleasure to get through your delicatefully distilled and carfully expressed feelings about the album. Thanks.

  • @theragingdolphinsmaniac4696
    @theragingdolphinsmaniac4696 Před 10 měsíci

    Your channel is excellent Abby. This is my favorite FM album. While I disagree with your comments about some some songs on this album sounding "stiff", I do understand your point. That is my complaint about most bands today since tracking instruments separately to avoid mic bleed is a normal recording technique. That does sound stiff to me.

  • @stevebouras641
    @stevebouras641 Před 4 měsíci

    Songbird is a Christine earth exit n the vocalist contrast that captured the fading light 😂❤

  • @thejoyofthemusicinmylife7897
    @thejoyofthemusicinmylife7897 Před 10 měsíci

    Growing up as a teenager in the later 1970s Rumours along with Frampton Comes Alive, Hotel California, Boston's debut album all seem so much out there on radio and charts that it seems like these albums were issued to me.