Josh Yaks about Hunt For the Ring and other "one vs all, hidden movement" games
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- čas přidán 18. 07. 2018
- Come have a look at my homemade component enhancements for Hunt For the Ring, then stick around as I compare that game to two others in the same genre: Fury of Dracula and Specter Ops!
00:17 - Introduction to Hunt For the Ring
HUNT FOR THE RING COMPONENT ENHANCEMENTS:
01:15 - Painted figures
02:17 - Custom bits
03:04 - The rule book and player references
04:31 - The Ring Bearer's screen
DISCUSSION OF THE GENRE AND ITS GAMES:
08:37 - History of the "one vs all, hidden movement" genre
15:01 - Maps & movement
18:27 - Methods of searching
21:34 - The hunted player
24:06 - The hunters
28:58 - Final thoughts and conclusions
30:35 - Ending and outtakes
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Hey there! The first time my group played Hunt for the Ring, they HATED it. They didn’t like the action dice, they didn’t like how the nazgûl ‘hunted’, they didn’t like how Frodo & Co. moved... They thought it was too easy for Frodo & Co. and that it was imbalanced. I honestly thought they would never play it again. However, after playing it a few more times (and learning some of the fiddly bits within the rules that make it easier on the nazgûl and on Frodo), my group has come more around. Having played both as the nazgûl and Frodo, it’s important to keep some of these details in mind. Things like (as you said) keeping an eye on the Company’s Fellowship tokens to be wary of possible cancellations or what have you, knowing that the information tokens are tied only to ally locations (one of my group’s complaints was that these were too hard to find as the nazgûl during Pt. I and weren’t worth the effort because they could be anywhere and thus too distracting from the hunt; knowing what we know now, they’re WAY easier to locate), and understanding that it’s last known location that matters. In a lot of hidden movement games, the hunted is moving from spot to spot to spot and each is recorded. Hunt is the first one I’ve played that allows a looser movement system for the hunted with the “in the wild” dots. When my group first played, they just could not, for the life of them, wrap their heads around the idea that Frodo wasn’t actually located at one particular dot. My most important advice to them, and I think that finally convinced them to give it another shot, was Perception. They weren’t using Perception actions very often and I pointed out that that was probably one of their more powerful tools of deduction. Combined with space-counting, you can almost pinpoint Frodo’s location and determine his path and from there set up a plan of attack. A second piece of advice... The game is two parts and it wasn’t until I played a couple times that realized that it wasn’t really the goal of the nazgûl to ‘win’ in Pt. I. Pt. I is a prep game for Pt. II. You want to slow down Frodo, get those information tokens and try to cycle the sorcery cards a bit in preparation for the smackdown in Pt. II. If you can force Frodo to be rescued or can get couple encounters in Pt. I, kudos, but don’t be disappointed when you don’t. When my group realized that, they started having a little more fun with it and not feeling so defeated.
I really appreciate your taking the time to share all these thoughts, Andrew! The "dot" movement is certainly a unique mechanism, and can take some time to wrap your head around. The Nazgûl have some very interesting searching tools, and I'm sure there's some subtlety to the strategic use of the various options. I think your last point is very important, too: Due to the amount of confusion I've seen from various commentators, it seems that the game should have been much clearer with the fact that Parts I and II are two halves of the SAME game! I'm glad that your group started to enjoy the game more!
Really enjoyed this video. Glad I discovered your channel. You're very articulate, and I love your spirit.
Thanks so much for the kind words! That really does mean a lot to me!
I just discovered your channel and so far I love it.
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Thanks so much, Elias! It's nice to have you aboard!
Great video. Thanks.
My pleasure!
This video is gold for me. Fury of Dracula is my #1 favorite game. It is the game that began my journey into the board game hobby. It was given to me by a workmate who won it in a raffle, and had no one with whom he could play. At that time, the subset of modern games I'd played included the standard Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride, and Catan. For fun, I decided to work my way through it. And man, was it work, but I spent the time, learned it, played it, and fell in love with it. I've not played Specter Ops nor Hunt for the Ring.
Amazing! But damn, Ticket to Ride to Fury of Dracula is quite a leap!
I know, right? But I spent a helluvah lot of time learning Fury. I watched every review and play through, spent hours on the forums, wrote up my own strategy notes for both Dracula and Hunters, and played with anyone and everyone who showed even the slightest interest. I even convinced 2 separate groups of workmates to stay after work and learn the game. I think it was that effort that made me curious and eager about what else was out there in the gaming world.
@@scyldscefing3913 I don't know if it would be useful to you, but I created a bunch of detailed player reference material for 3rd edition here:
www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/127815/detailed-3rd-edition-references-all-players
You earned my subscription with this video. :-) Really nice, in-depth analysis and descriptions. I'm also impressed with your "blinging" skills! heh :-)
Yay!! I'm genuinely excited to have you aboard, KabukiKid, after seeing all the positivity you bring to the Dice Tower live feeds!
@@joshyaks Glad to be aboard! :-) I like your positivity too. I checked out a few other videos and like your views on things... outside of board games, I mean. ;-)
@@KabukiKid Gosh, that means SO much more than merely liking my content! My primary "views on things" is that we need to be kind to each other, and that we need to be EXTRA kind to those men, women, and beloved nonbinary folks of various groups who have traditionally been at the receiving end of enormous unkindness throughout the history of our society (from Indigenous people to black folks to those who don't have homes to women in general and to so many more).
@@joshyaks Yer speaking my language! ;-) The world definitely needs more kindness and caring.
Excellent video. I ended up picking up the game myself but am slightly confused with the use of fellowship tokens and the pool and adding them for every shadow die rolled by the nazghul. Shot in the dark with this one, but can you help shed some light on the use of the fellowship token and where they should be placed?
I'm afraid its been too long since I've had my nose in the rule book, but I had previously made some player aids to help players navigate the nuances of this game:
boardgamegeek.com/filepage/160129/hunt-ring-turn-reference
boardgamegeek.com/filepage/160130/hunt-ring-nazgul-and-locations-reference
Just saw a few of your vids and liked them a lot. +1 subscriber
Wondering if you offer any of your player aid sheets or how-to plans for components for download.
Thanks so much, Art! I really appreciate the kind words and your taking the time to subscribe!
I do make a lot of player aids for games, and I upload many of them to boardgamegeek.com. At that site you can go to the game page for the specific game, then to the "Files" section for that game. I go by the username "squash" there, so you can search for files uploaded by that username.
Another way to go about it would be to go to my profile page on boardgamegeek.com, click on "Contributions", scroll down to "Files", and then click on the number next to "Board Games" to bring up all 80 files I've uploaded for various games.
Or if you're having trouble finding something specific, just send an email to writetojoshyaks@gmail.com, and I can attach the file directly to an email for you.
Don't hesitate to reach out with specific questions, and thanks so much for watching!
@@joshyaks Thanks so much. Got into the hobby a little over a year ago and met some really great people. Gonna share your channel with others. Thanks.
Awesome! What games have you been enjoying?
@@joshyaks It's really broad variety. About 2 years ago someone introduced me to Mansions of Madness 2nd ed. and I got hooked. Really enjoy horror themed games and pretty much anything Cthulhu. When I play with family it's stuff like Sagrada and The Grimm Forest. My son and I like of 4x, worker placement and war games (War of the Ring and Game of Thrones).
But I think some of the most fun are hidden movement like Letters From Whitechapel, Treasure Island, Fury of Dracula and of course Hunt for the Ring.
Wow, you dove straight into the deep end! I agree with you about hidden movement games, and I'm a huge fan of Specter Ops even though the cyberpunk theme doesn't appeal to me nearly as much as the Fury of Dracula and Hunt For the Ring themes. As for Treasure Island, I've had my eye on that one because it was my favourite book when I was a kid and I also have a soft spot for deduction games!
Could it have been Gandalf that named the cards?
Et tu, Larry!?! :P
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Oh, hi! I guess a certain BGG comment brought you here... ;) I hope you achieve loads of success with your game, just PLEASE stop announcing it! :) All the best to you!