Lowkey I think people's perception of content is largely just colored by gacha. Baizhu and Kaveh aren't very exciting meta-wise but 3.6 is about the same amount of content as 3.4 and the exploration is (imo) way better, but nobody seemed to have a problem with 3.4 because of HT, Yelan, and Homa+Aqua banners 🤷♀️
gacha games (unless ur like a mega whale and ur in a competitive gacha, or u like grinding out flowers and other mats that dont require resin) are side games not meant to be played every single day for 12+ hours, its also part of hoyos entire plan, release a good amount of gacha games that can all be treated as side games, while one game is in downtime, the others arent, basically rotating between games
@@herexcellency4304 it really is. Create a heavily dry patch in Genshin, release their new game, bored Genshin players try it out and then return on the immense Fontaine hype train that we got at the end of the last livestream PepeLa
I enjoy this for very different reasons. With Genshin, I have to be much more active in my participation. Its great when Im at home on my PC. Star Rail is a lot more fun when Im on lunch break or sitting at the DMV or have a 3 hour layover between flights. I'm not getting fucked by being on my phone. For people that dont spend a lot of time out of the house I can see it being kind of redundant.
Yes, simulated universe is so much fun and is literally the best gamemode in HSR. I kept sending survey forms for genshin about making an endgame content similar to Elysian Realm (which is from HI3rd and where HSR took inspiration to), and I thought they already have one planned out and labyrinth warriors was like a testing event for a future rougelike to be added in the game. But instead they made it a limited event only. Even the hypostasis and kenki event where fun gamemodes too and the fact that you can co-op for higher points, but again instead of implementing it in the game its made to be a limited time event. Its also been a while since they re-released these events. All this puzzles and coop parlor game events feels really boring honestly
@@Siecyl ikr, if time is there concern, they could really just take HI3 approach and make the dailies or at least just the domains auto-able. That way only the fun game modes are left, which doesn't even stresses a player to do a lot every single day since it is a weekly. You can binge play it on a weekend when you're not busy with work/studies and be done with dailies on a weekday for like 5mins pressing buttons
@@Siecyl i think hi3 elysium realm has way too many 'floors' so to speak. Its just the right amount in star rail. if they did decide to add that after Snezhnaya i hope its the star rail version
Well maybe because Genshin characters rely on reactions to do damage except Geo and maybe Anemo, unlike HI3 and Star Rail so that's why they are taking a long time to do it.
i have always loved your in-depth calculations and excel sheets. as a trained office clerk, they resonate with me👌. I would love to see the type of content you do for Genshin, here in star rail. your analisys and calculations and how you deliver them are peak!
Power creep is inevitable in a turn based game, but because of the toughness bar it should take a while to truly power creep a character because not only does a new character have to do what the old one does it also has to be the same element. So like they can put out a better Seele, but if they’re an element other than Quantum Seele will still have a use.
@@Zer0Hour17 I agree. Due to class system - tank, buffer, healer, AOE dps, ST dps and different elements + different ways to do dmg - DOT's, crits, Follow ups they dont need to implement powercreep for at least year or two. Also in fact story wise you will be able to play the game with March + Dan, clear SU and only last floors on MoC will be hard.
with Jing Yuan release, its seems Power creep gonna be easy. since he really all about dmg that straight forward, i dunno how impactfull serval shock extended is but yea its already so straight up upgrade.
Would love to see a video on speed! star rail is shaping up to be that lazy login game where you wont miss out by just logging in for dailies for a few minutes (like genshin) but has a stamina-free game mode that's actually fun and even contributes to in-game progression, on the days people _do_ feel like playing longer (unlike genshin omegalul)
@@vinniegret4841 you know how rogue-like games work? Honkai has a variant of that called Simulated Universe. Where you go through different dungeons and aquire buffs (blessings like genshin) and make choices for higher risk rewards. Zajef explains why its by far the best gamemode but to sum it up, its a fun infinitely replayable gamemode that offers rewards for playing it.
@@pianobat2827 What incentive do they have? I want to know just dont want to play HSR. And as i get it, it doesent end at so called 12-3, and goes further infinitely yeah?
Same honestly, bcuz my brother play it but i don't. He the one who make me play Genshin in the first place. I don't want another hassle tho. Let see how long he can last play hsr.
Can't say I'd really care to see more HSR content since I have no intention of playing it, but if your audience wants it by majority, then you do you. Wouldn't feel right to try and dictate your content, especially if it's something people want to see and all the more so if it's content you want to produce.
It's not like we don't have intuition already, we just need to "tc" ourselves in genshin if zajeff takes longer to do tc because of tcing in both games Just some intuition based on all what we learned, test and compare in abyss, don't overate or underate units at release and that's it. It's longer than the excel method but if someone doesn't know how to calculate dps based on the frames and rotations it will take the same as learning all that.
Safe to say a lot of people like HSR so including Zajeff otherwise he wouldn't be playing it. Makes sense to make content about things you enjoy even if you don't see yourself playing it long term.
Yeah, I think adding SU like content in genshin will make the endgame of genshin so much fun, no timer, just buffed up enemy with strong HP and attack.
It's gonna be so sad when people stop being underleveled and realize SimUni isn't actually endgame and just a glorified relic farm domain :( Would love to see a special high-difficulty rotating World to function as SimUni endgame but I'm not holding my breath
My plan was to build up a stockpile of Jade from the early game, passively log in to build TR for a while, then come back several months from now when there's a bit more content and more characters to choose from.
I already have all but 2 of the 4 star characters and I’m not even done with the first planet yet. I got a 5 star very early on the Seele banner, but lost the 50/50 so I’m waiting to pull again for a while.
Im just a Bronya wanter so Im just vibing doing pulls on any limited banner to see what happens first: the 300 pull pity for me to get Bronya or if I will lose the 50/50 to her... I have an e1 Seele rn, got Welt from the guaranteed 5* and Himeko on my first pity 76 on standard.
Lmao same, I am saving my guaranteed for Kafka and until then I should have about 200 tickets (I bought the welkin equivalent with some credit I had on google play) and then playing the wathever.
Great to see a trusted source give their opinions on HSR like Zajef does. I'm on the fence on trying it, but 1:47 is a deal-breaker. Elemental reactions mixing and matching is what hooked me up into Genshin. A wonderful upgrade from my experience playing Dragon Nest back in the day. And they did not transfer that aspect here. But hey, for those who enjoys this kind of gameplay, good for you.
@@pontoancora I don't mind good story/lore, but I'm not actively searching for it. Explosions on the other hand - inject it into my veins! Burgeon reactions, one-shot Raiden ults, E punch from Heizou, rocket attacks from Ning C6, those action-packed things. That I like. HSR does not have that based on my eye test.
It also means Geo will always be underwhelming. Xiangling will always be OP. Hydro as an element will always be valued more etc. It’s frustrating when you know some characters will never be as good because of their element.
@@bletwort2920 Geo is good, the entire point of geo is to be yellow physical. It's supposed to be inert. Xiangling is strong, but teams that don't have xiangling are still very viable (e.g. taser, soup, bloom, hyperbloom and burgeon) Hydro is valuable, but every team doesn't need hydro (mono geo, aggravate, spread, other mono teams). Not quite sure if this is just "muh genshit bad 🤓" or an actual comment, but if it is the latter, genshin's balancing have been pretty good in terms of elements. Most elements shine in their specific niches.
I have mostly the same opinion about HSR. The game is turn based, which isn't my favorite, but the game has a great story, visuals, audio, etc and that makes for a game I can casually enjoy on the side. I can see myself playing it at least until ZZZ or Wuthering Waves drops, but after that I'd probably only log in for the story updates instead of every day.
My guess for *powercreep* would be that, just like in Genshin, HoYo intends to create both a 4-Star and a 5-Star for each _[archetype + element + role]_ combination, then tune certain event content to be easier with the "flavor of the month" units: There are currently 7 elements and 7 paths in the game, totalizing 49 possible different combinations and 98 potential characters... This is enough variety to build niches for at least 5 years or so without having to repeat archetypes other than [4-Star vs. 5-Star] variants. The event tuning would come from having rules and damage thresholds that benefit certain paths, then mobs of certain elements - say, making the player complete a challenge under 5 turns to get all prizes, or having to use shields in order to stall and survive phase changes for a while. TL;DR: There won't be much powercreep, unless you ignore 4/5-Star variants, paths and elements - and those _will_ weight on future content, mark my words.
Agree. Idk why people are overreacting about star rail getting powercreeped like genshin when it's a turn based. It's pretty difficult to powercreep in turn based typa games
@@Name-lq4hz It's very easy to powercreep in TBG's and happens literally all the time lol. Turn based gacha games have the worst power creep in existence.
@@Name-lq4hz Pokemon, a turn based RPG that isn't a gacha, has powercreep so insanely bad that they have 8+ tiers where players pick and choose who goes in where just to curb powercreep as much as possible
I fear the simulated universe will just be a relic farm at max difficulty, I hope they at least add like a world 7 on a rotation like the memory of chaos
It may become another way to promote new characters by adding bosses of their element and (maybe) mechanics. But should be beatable for longterm player.
Pretty sure they will add more worlds as we progress through the story and get more bosses. They will probably add new 5 star light cones to herta's shop as well since the ones we have in the shop rn correlate to the regions we have on the map and the paths trailblazer unlocks/will unlock on them.
After a few weeks of playing, the novelty sorta wore off for me, so Im back to catching up to Genshin quests. Part of it is because it's another game I have to keep up with. Another reason is because my friends have rushed to near level 50, which made me lose motivation, because they dropped Genshin to dedicate all their playtime to Star Rail. The biggest reason though is because I've generally been more busy IRL. Overall, I'd say it's a great game with one of the better launches of any game in recent years. If you like turn based combat, then Star Rail is a blast to play. Otherwise, the gameplay can and will get repetitive as you progress further into the game.
As someone who likes space more than fantasy, and JRPG's more than character action, HSR is an absolute banger. Didn't expect I would like it this much, and the QoL improvements over Genshin really add up. Now we just need more content, because once you're done with the story there is a lot of downtime.
HSR is like the perfect game to have on my phone and play during my lunch break or on the bus, because the gameplay doesn't punish me too much for being on mobile, while Genshin feels terrible on mobile. Overall, not sure if it will keep me hooked for +2 years like Genshin did, but it's certainly nice to enjoy more casually
Yeah despite how much I love the characters on Star Rail I just don't see myself enjoying it long term. Especially investing money on the game when it's pretty clear that the characters that are strong right now are not gonna last long enough. I just wish HYV actually made a collab between both Genshin and Star Rail to advertise the game rather than making Genshin feel dry af for a couple of months lol
How is it pretty clear though? I think people are being too negative on the supposed future powercreep, considering it's a casual PvE game and seeing how Hoyo has handled "powercreep" in Genshin. As long as new units aren't mandatory to complete content, it should be fine. Besides, we have a LOT of leaks on future characters, enough for the next 1-2 years probably. Let's take Seele, only a couple of leaked 5 stars are the Hunt, none of them being Quantum. That means Seele is far from being directly powercrept, and as a pure damage dealer she's in the most vulnerable role.
@@betulla96 IMO genshin’s powercrept somehow got saved by trinity(bennet,xiangling,xinqiu) which so strong even sometimes better than 5star. They keep relevant until now so nearly no 4star far better than them until they got C6(faruzan/sara for example with limited team). Also genshin had a little char with similar role eventhough they had released so many characters, can’t do much powercrept comparison. Contrary in HSR, that game demands specific element/path to defeat enemy. In the future i do believe you need specific debuff to prevent enemy, buff/heal while give enough damage with specific element to break enemy, and so on. They would sell it in forgotten hall or simulated universe for sure. Maybe for now you can do it with all free character include standard 5star. In the future i do believe you need a lot of alternative, thats why for gacha thing HSR very generous compared with Genshin.
@@betulla96 Let's not sit here and pretend that Seele, Jing Yuan, Bailu etc are going to remain the strongest characters for long. The element of a character matters very little when the role is the one being powercrept. I mean, sure you don't *need* the new characters to clear content, this is true for Genshin too but you cannot possibly believe that HYV will not realese content that is noticeably easier to clear if you have a certain unit over others. I mean if you enjoy it, good for you. All I'm saying is the concept of a turn based gacha (of which I have played a few) is not really something that I look myself playing long term and thus I don't think it's worth it for me to even give it a try
Yeah, I think I would like to see your theory crafting perspective on Starrail. I don't see much in the way of theory Crafting except for people translating Chinese theory crafting charts.
Hoyo marketing strat is working out and I’m just so gutted that a well anticipated Genshin patch (Baizhu) is what they sacrificed for this game’s release wave to dominate the gacha circles. They really borderline starved one game to make you migrate to a new one. Haven’t played HSR, but the ads are on everything for me since I consume Genshin content. Shit sucks.
Maybe the game will hold it by the characters charisma alone. That is very strong. The combat system is very simple, great for first timers, but cant hold for too long.
@@pontoancora definitely the characters (and the story). I like the combat in the first few times but it gets really tedious the more you go through the game and against extremely tanky enemies it just gets downright boring.
I was really hyped about HSR and played it for a couple weeks, then the combat got me bored. The main story is good but it takes way too much obnoxious npc fuckery to unlock it. I also have no motivation to spend my "resin", something about the UI makes it feel messy. Unlike most, I hate the simulated universe and being forced to play it in the quest list. Every battle is the same, it's so mindless there's literally an autopilot made for it. Pokemon is a game for 7 year olds and it feels miles more engaging. You can't base your entire game around combat and then make combat boring.
I just created a new Genshin character! They are a Natlan, tall, male, anemo, catalyst shielder/enabler with long ranged everything. The shield gains the element of whatever the element of the skill hit is, adding 250% damage absorption to the element absorbed, on top of the 250% anemo absorption. The shield scales off EM, in both absorption and damage, at 180% EM + 5298 at level 10. The shield pulses like Xinyans, doing elemental damage slightly first like Kazuha, then hitting with anemo damage, swirling to nearby things. The shield generates two elemental particles, anemo and the element absorbed, unless it does not absorb a element, in that case he just gets an anemo particle. His skill has a 15 second cooldown, with a 18 second shield, and the shield pulses every 2.4 seconds. His burst is a large field that pulls everything towards you for 2 seconds, healing based on every enemy in the radius being pulled, with no ICD and hitting every 0.3 seconds. The damage of the burst also has a high scaling off EM, at 243% EM + 9618. Their first passive makes it so that hydro swirls do damage if under his shield, and adds a 2% damage bonus to all hydro reactions, scaling off 30 EM each 2%, also while under his shield. His second passive increases the range of his already large burst by 40%, and adds Gale of Death stacks every time he swirls. Gale of War stacks increase all reaction and physical damage by 10%, capping at 8 stacks. His first constellation decreases the internal cooldown of all party members for 3 seconds every time his shield hits, by 1 second. His second constellation gives his team 20% damage res when Gale of War is active, also decreasing any enemy res by 10% after getting hit by the burst. His third constellation is skill levels, his fourth increases all team normal attack damage by 20% while under his shield. His fifth is burst levels and his sixth constellation adds a mini burst, 40 of the second passive buffed burst size, with damage buffed by +80% and hitting every 0.2 seconds every time he swirls with a normal attack, with a 15 second cooldown and 12 second duration. oh yeah, and his normal attacks have very high scaling's at 150% 1, 162 2, 180 3 and 200 4. His base stats are low to make up for his power though, at 8912 base HP, with 120 base ATK, 452 base DEF and 82 ascension EM. Please rate or talk about my build. Did you like it? Thanks for reading to the end!
I know the Blizzard meme but it actually runs nicely on phones and low end PCs. I have a PC with a 3060 but I can also play it on medium settings on my Galaxy S21 with no issues. I'd suggest trying it if you're interested
Try mobile instead until 1.1 arrives. It also helps that you're creating a Hoyoverse account instead of sticking yourself into Sony's ecosystem and being stuck with PS5, but allows variety through Hoyo's account.
Attention, for those who havent played this game yet or are still in the early game: The rogue like IS NOT ENDGAME. U only get one time rewards and there is no rotation. Also its incredibly easy. It might be a bit challenging very early on but once ure geared up later in the game it becomes like a walk in the park. Do not expect it to becomes any significant part of your experience. So to add to the video, no, just because u enjoy rogue-likes doesnt mean ull enjoy this game.
the fact that they are only going to add one planet per year is incredibly disappointing, this isn't like genshin where they have to make a massive open world area, all the explorable areas are mostly hallways they can afford to do more.
They're just going to flesh out each existing planet with the updates. I can already see issues with trying to create an entirely new planet every month.
@@lawfulgoodnun1646 it doesn’t need to be one a month, but it’s not a Genshin region s worth of content, it’s a few corridors and a few new simple enemies/puzzles, that should not take 1 year to make
@@meepswag35 but it would also need a whole new story, which is absolutely why they’ll expand planets rather than add new ones all the time. They already built that in. Belebog will uncover more areas as the freeze slowly recedes and space china has multiple ships.
Its tough rn since HSR is super hyped by all the Genshin creators I follow, but I just can’t play the slower turn based combat gameplay. Wish Hoyo would improve Genshin a little but this is probably whats going to push me back to only playing Destiny again smh
I am exact opposite. I dont mind playng turn based games like Xcom but in HSR I dont play anything. I just auto all batlles except story ones. I even dont watch them XDD.
Definitely yes more videos of HSR! I don’t really know any trustworthy TC for Honkai. I really like your Genshin TC, like close-to-precise roles and explanations/in-depth guides. And I’d rather not have someone saying “oh this char is meh,” but you say more detailed reason, following-up with “this is why…”
I mean, we are at patch 1, there are no trustworthy TC. Everything is being figured out. There isn't even a standard investment threshold yet. Imo before 1.3 drops, every single TC result that is character strength based and not mechanic based should be taken with a truck load ocean of salt anyway.
@@jonhsmith8238 I get it, but lots of YTbers don’t really show exactly what I honestly need. Like going back to Genshin for a sec, there’s guides, videos, but they really don’t explain the specifics that TC, or Zajef, honestly does. Even if it means talking crap about my fav chars, it’s more like I’m getting useful information. Like how he talked about Ganyu’s placeholder in the current patch. Yeah, he did say she’s not strong, but he deeply analyzed it, on how to play her, what her strongest teams, and with Calcs and explanation of these calcs. I can get the gist/basic information about chars kits in HSR, but I really enjoy the deeper meaning, cause I ain’t smart. I’m really dumb LOL. I only watch one person rn, but idk if I trust their word specifically? (If you know any tho pls lmk) Hopefully this is understandable to read. Sure, it will take awhile to actually figure everything out, but Zajef does such an incredible job with Genshin in such a short amount of time, so it’s why I want him to cover some HSR chars!
@minh duc *semi-reliable. Spreadsheat =/= reliability. Like, the dude is doing MoC strat while being 20 levels down with defensive Bronya, speed YQ as a survivability tool, and 134 speed as a way to one-shot first wave with an E2S1 Seele. It's very cool to know in4 from him, but you shouldn't take it as reliable until everyone is at standard investment and there are updated guides for minmaxing at that standard, because whether or not something applies to you specifically is totally up in the air. Most of the indepth stuffs are half-baked and unreliable rn, that's the reason why there aren't a lot of them.
would love to see future videos, i'm very curious to hear your thoughts and how your opinions develop as we start to better understand the game systems and get further in progression
what zajef says at 9:04 about turn based and power creep is so true. Imo turn based and gacha is the WORST combination, I personally hate powercreep as it just ends up making old characters feel like shit compared to newer ones, which is very wasteful. Better when everything has a purpose and use case!
@@djlightlessI play the hard stuff in FGO without Merlin and Castoria as a rule, I grailed my Mozart to 100 even to show respect to my 1-3* greats. I'd say powercreep hit FGO bad but not really in a way where it stops you from clearing content because the kinda stuff you need to beat the content the game throws at you is very little. You can beat the game with 1-3*s albeit it's tough so just going along and using your favourite 4* and 5*s be they old or new is completely managable. Powercreep only hit FGO in the sense that Castoria exists and ruined future character kit designs. Everyone has to have a battery now for example. Pre Castoria there was almost no powercreep except like merlin and skadi Also with the way FGO does strengthening quests there's always hope for bad units and also some really early units are still on top of the meta, for example Ozymandias ans Enkidu are like the best units in their classes. As for HSR, as long as they don't go overboard and come back to buff old units like Epic7 and FGO do the powercreep should be manageable
Honestly, i have no interest in HSR. Turn based games aren't my thing, and if i wanted to suddenly play one, already have a bunch of them in my Steam Library, with more interesting mechanics, gameplay and visual presentation than the ones showed in HSR. But hey, its your channel. Is up to you to decide what to do.
I personally find the combat system, world navigation and lore uninteresting. Tried it since launch and already dropped it. Simulated universes are cool but not something I find as fun and worth my time.
Speed is pretty simple and works about the same as final fantasy 10. Certain arche types want more speed while some want less 1. Shielders/buffer/debuffer (most speed) 2.dps. 3. Healers and clara. (Give them the lowest speed or dont build speed at all.)
I don't care for Star Rail, basically just here for Zajef explaining and teaching stuff, although I am looking fowards the potential Zelda Tears of the Kingdom content he brought up in one of his streams tho.
I've played it since launch, and I'm planning on dropping it. The combat just isn't fun at all to me. The story seems good so far, but I just can't bring myself to play it anymore.
thats perfectly fine, my FOMO finally wore off on genshin and ive been playing less (current patch content is not helping with that either) what made you play hsr? for me i just tried it on a whim but now i have a favorite character im a BIT willing to see through lol
Yeah you can't really bring yourself to love a genre this was me with pgr and hi3 hack and slash games with so many skills just overwhelms and confuses me
@@luiss428 I decided to play it because people were hyping it up, and I figured I would give it an honest try. Playing it for a few days didn't seem like an honest evaluation of the game. I wasn't hyped for it at all until a few days before release, when I started watching content on it. I knew that playing two gachas wouldn't be a good idea, so I essentially abstained from looking at anything relating to the game. Once release came around, that became unavoidable. To be fair to the game, the writers did an excellent job (especially with some of the investigate markers), and the story is pretty good, but there just isn't enough to warrant slogging through gameplay that I don't like (another reason I didn't look at anything). When new content is out, there probably will be a lot to like (until you finish that), but other than that? No, I can't say it's for me.
@@matthewmalaker477 thats perfectly fine theres a clear difference in interest when it comes to turn based games. Some hate it and prefer live combat while others prefer the opposite. I find it very common for people who love genshin to have a hard time enjoying star rail due to the drastic change in gameplay from free flow to turn base.
I don't agree with the powercreep statement. I have always found that people overrate how much you can do in Genshin just cause you can move your character. There's still no getting past F12 if you don't have a certain amount of damage and "moving" is more of a virtual feeling rather than anything. Who even tries to dodge F12 consecrated beasts at this point? You just brute force them with enough DPS or retry the chamber cause u got oneshoted lol. It's fundamentally the same as in HSR. Genshin is not Dark Souls and moving/dodging is not the big deal most people make it out to be.
It kinda feels like they took a certain event that happened in Genshin once, which everyone loved but never had a rerun, and worked on it for the sim universe in HSR
Their original mode that was similar to SU is the Elysian Realm in Honkai Impact 3rd. After that, they had the Labyrinth event in Genshin. Now they have SU. I would have liked that mode in Genshin permanently with harder enemies, but, you know, we don't want to have anxiety lol
I enjoy HSR right now especially with these dry patches (Fontaine waiting room). I don't see myself being super invested in the game, but I can see myself playing casually for the long-term. Pretty good game to play when you're on the go.
I've played FGO since NA launch, although there is powercreep they usually buff old units enough that you can pretty much play whoever you want. Mihoyo never buffing characters in genshin does have me a bit worried about the future though
I don't know if it's because I've been playing turn-based gachas for a long time now, but I really like HSR gameplay no matter how simple it is compared to other turn-based games. I know having stuff that you can afk may turn-off most people, but it's pretty fine by me. I find automation fun, like what you can expect in Factorio, Satisfactory, and incremental games. I understand that HSR may appear repetitive to some, but at the very least you have lesser participation than with Genshin domains; you won't feel the burnout that much. Besides, gacha games are designed to be more of a side game stuff. Also compared to Genshin, HSR is wayyy better to play on phone. I'm just afraid of the potential powercreep in the game in the future if it does have, like what happens in Epic Seven. But knowing how Hoyo does a decent job on Genshin powercreep, I feel confident that they can also manage this game properly as well. In retrospect I think this game is perfect for those who don't mind turn-based combat and are quite busy IRL, because this game has fast dailies and weeklies (SU is debateabke though), and explorations are smaller in size.
star rail is more casual-player-friendly i feel, which i love since i'm a slow casual player, but i've heard it can get tedious for those hardcore speedrunners
As someone who doesn't wants to play this game this vid is perfect because every other content I've seen is more like hype... Zajef is more objective and I love it.
Honestly very happy that you're giving this game a shot. I am loving playing it so far. IMO it's definitely worth my time and money - I play every day and I've only spent on the Express Pass. I like leveling my characters and taking on new content - higher levels in SU, higher Trailblaze Level, etc. It's fun collecting the gear and leveling them, as well as the traces. I like how the game gives you access to 4 and 5 star Light Cones easily as a low-spender. And they have been quite generous with the beginner banner, letting me get my favorite character, Bronya. I don't know how long I will play this game, but it's been a fun ride so far! Oh yeah, the story is pretty good, the VAs are great, and the writing is FANTASTIC. I can see myself coming to this game just to play the story and check out all the writing as they release new worlds.
HSR puzzles are nice in that they have reasonable progression curve where you start of with ultra trivial but then it's trivial, very easy, easy, sometimes reaching "oh, i had to think for few seconds here" at the last ones which is quite satisfying (compass! minecarts!). Genshin puzzles are all ultra trivial until suddenly one is kinda hard and doesn't even have proper explanation and it's back to trivial ones. Also Inazuma ones were disproportionately harder than all the other regions - it's nice that they are harder but it's not nice how big the jump was compared to mond/liyue. And sumeru... just leads player by hand through every step ;/
9:06 That's exactly what I told people when asked why I don't play this game instead of/as well as Genshin. But some people still don't get it. I would play it if it wasn't a gacha game, it looks fun. But I don't think I can appreciate pulling for new characters in a turn-based combat game compared to an action combat game. And ofc there's the powercreep issue.
i'm overwhelmed by star rail waves of content on channels that i used to watch, i turned off all the notification bells for them just zajeff is still on
Simulated Universe is frustrating, because it shows how good a Genshin roguelike could potentially be, but they refuse to make one outside of limited events. The combat system feels wasted with no actual challenges outside of the very boring Abyss. It's probably just a "don't fix what ain't broke" mentality; the game has a license to print money, and any change to the profit-making systems could undermine that, so they almost never do it. (It's been almost 3 years and they still haven't changed the 4-stars in the starglitter shop... it doesn't even have all the 1.0 ones!) They could just make a roguelike with no primogem rewards, but the only optional game-mode they seem to care about is the TCG. It's just one of those things that will never happen. Like artifact loadouts.
I believe you would've progressed faster in this game if you had help from a friend since you started a bit later. You're a good friend of Zyox aren't you? He could've helped you and he also makes pretty good videos with the assistance of a very good theorycrafter that helps him by the name of Zajef
The game is good and ive been enjoying it but at the end of the day its literally Genshin but turnbased and honkai. SO many aspects of the game feel like they where legit ripped from Genshin and i think the gameplay loop is gonna be no different. The recent event feels exactly like a genshin one too. Memory of chaos is literally spiral abyss but its just hard right now because everyone is severely underleved and we have so few units. Its gonna be do dailies, stamina, play events, do your MoC every rotation, simulated universe, and wait for new zones/story. Only problem is zones in this game are so much smaller compared to genshin and the combat is more simple. I cant see it possibly keeping players like genshin does. i know a lot of people where comparing it to genshin, and its a breath of fresh air but end of the day its gonna be very similar just a little more boring IMO because of the lack of very intuitive gameplay
honestly, with the way genshin's going and the amount of new content i can get out of both it & star rail, it's done me the best favor of getting me back into my other hobbies rather than wasting time on gatcha content. i find it personally embarrassing how much time i was spending on gatchas to begin with, so it's refreshing to take a break and get back into reading non-fiction and such in my free time rather than fostering a gambling problem.
I'd definitely want to see more Star Rail content. It has so many things that fix what I hate most about Genshin. You can even farm afk and you spend a much higher % of the time on the game actually enjoying it rather than repeating the same mundane activities that take 20+ minutes daily. Much better dialogue in stories. Great travel companions. Love the simulated universe and forgotten hall. As someone who prefers live action battles I actually found the combat still enjoyable with all the different roles. Also the game doesn't have much exploring, which can be a pro or con depending on the person. It doesn't take anywhere near the same time commitment as Genshin
I like Star Rail a lot but I don’t like the tiny maps. Like in forgotten halls and simulated universe the levels work fine since tiny maps fit the concept of both but regular adventuring feels so constrained. I guess I’m spoiled by being able to climb and glide almost anywhere.
I would rather have powercreep than the same thing happening with Genshin: Tbh, the later 4* are just forgettable, boring and/or straight up bad, or even 5*. Im so tired of the characters also being the same regarding mechanics or how the work (except the archons). I hope they do it better with Star Rail regarding content as well, I think in this game we need more permanente hardcontent and events to make it interesting. I also enjoyed the story more, the characters are better developed.
It's still somewhat strange seeing Zajef do Star Rail content considering how uninterested he seemed at first but I really enjoy it. I'm actually probably quitting Genshin for a while until a 4.0 drops. So, yes! More Star Rail content, please! I'm curious why you think Star Rail will succumb to power creep considering Genshin has seemed to have had reverse power creep.
I mean he explained it. A character in a turn based game is just their stats. Like you can’t just get better at playing like in genshin. Though I think it will take a while for real power creep since a new character has to do the same thing as an old one but better and be the same element to truly power creep.
Theres clips of him genuinely enjoying his time playing it. Particularly early game when battles would end in close calls but he still replays the SU because like he says its interesting.
Star Rail is still a blast to play for me and hasn't gotten old yet. I devour all the Star Rail content I can get and see myself playing long term. It's disappointing Zajef doesn't plan to play long term and doesn't really like the game aside from SU, but it's okay, no game is for every one, and we still need him for Genshin too ha. GrimroGacha (theorycrafter from Path of Exile) is pretty good to watch for people looking for Star Rail TC content, he's like the Zajef of Star Rail.
Genshin is in one of its dryest patches as of now but I'm never playing this game ... I'd rather play the new Zelda Tears of the kingdom and catch up on other games Elden ring etc
I have no interest in star rail videos. I completely understand from a content creator pov that genshin doesnt have much to say atm, So it makes sense to switch to another game. But i would rather watch updated character builds.
Simulated Universe is just chef's kiss. Because there isn't much exploration involved in this game, they made this game mode to give out rewards. Wish they did this for Genshin and allowed us to farm level up materials like elemental crystals, billets, talent material and Gladiator and Wanderers set.
The power creep in this game as a pve will be close with genshin but not as bad as hi3 tbh but yeah just like what they did in gi if there's really no pvp or leaderboards it doesn't matter as long as content is still beatable with older units But they very well can go to genshin's route occasionally releasing strong units while most are just alright
After a while I will probably jump back in for patch/story updates and characters I like but its still early days Genshins early days seemed like that too.
I’m enjoying it run simply because husbandos in this game are hot and boss fight is more fun, Genshin sumeru week bosses are such a disappointment. But I don’t see myself playing it long term, no way I am gonna farm for relics and get depressed again. If I hadn’t spent money on Genshin, I would have already quit. Since I got Raiden early this year I farm everyday, I only got a crappy two piece, daily logins feel like chore and no fun at all. So for HSR I won’t spend anything and once I got Luocha, I am done I can drop it then whenever I want.
I can’t care about star rail at all and it just makes me sad that genshin feels neglected as fuck in comparison, when it is the game actually making money for hoyo, it receives no love at all.
hot take: hoyo doesn't need powercreep to sell characters for 2 reasons a) they have enough whales who will buy everything they put out b) they are good at designing appealing characters that people want to pull for regardless of power level
Mediocre characters in Genshin barely has any revenue they need something strong to sell like have you seen how pathetic baizhu banner revenue looking like?
Personally I think powercreep WILL happen but it won’t be as bad as people think. HoYoVerse as a company is made to give the player characters they love and want. If anything I doubt powercreep will happen in the natural sense. I think it’ll be like Honkai impacts way of doing things, that said Honkai is competitive this game isn’t. So with the lack of competitive content currently I really doubt powercreep will be a main problem. To explain how I think they would do powercreep they will do it in a structure where characters will get upgrades through the Gacha system with something us honkai players call “battlesuits” they will be the same character but with different movesets and base types For example kiana kaslana started as a Physical Mech type DPS, she then got an upgrade to be a Physical Bio type DPS with the release of the Herrscher of the void, her next BIG upgrade was her becoming the Herrscher of FlameScion that was a Fire Psychic type DPS and her current form that’s the strongest current character in the game is Herrscher of Finality where she’s a Fire Imaginary type DPS.
Genshin has now a period of regression/stagnation in terms of power level, so let's see if something simillar won't happen here in Star Rail. But your powercreep concerns may be very valid, only time will tell. I love your deep dive videos theorycrafting about upcoming characters, it would be great if you could do the same for Star Rail when you have good enough grasp on power level of characters. Either way, I'll gladly watch more SR videos on CZcams.
Personally im playing untill the end of 1.1 to really decide if i wanna keep playing, not really hooked by the story and not really feeling any of the characters in particular(only one i like the look or is the leaked dan heng), i kinda really dont like how likely it looks like powercreep is gonna be a thing in this, i hate the idea of pulling a character only for them to be rendered obsolete by someone who does the same thing but better, dont wanna compare but that is one of the pros of genshin, mamy old units are still very viable and that doesnt seem like something carrying over to star rail. On the game play side i wish it was more complex, im a huge jrpg fan so im really familiar with turn based games and characters only having three things they can do each feels really limited to me. Biggest pro for star rail is definitely all the qol it has over genshin, hoping hoyo see the positive reception its received and implement some into genshin.
i probably stop play this after i beat MoC which means it will one or two month later. i already beat FH floor 15 when TB41, i can see myself clear it full star when TB55 to TB60 i dont wanna have stockholm syndrome on boring gacha game. right now i can pay for steam game, its good for mental health when i play another game to another game bcs its fun rather than become slave to gacha.
Powercreep in turn-based games can actually be alleviated with regular balance patch. At least there would be something new to try out every once in while without having to pull for a new character. But if they decided to treat the character balancing like they do in Genshin and just never do any fckin shit unless the character is the god of "china", then yeah, RIP. There won't be anyone be anyone playing the game for long term aside from waifu collectors like me lol.
"But if they decided to treat the character balancing like they do in Genshin" "There won't be anyone be anyone playing the game for long term" then why are people playing Genshin long term?
@@caiovaz6246 zajef already explained it briefly in the vid, the difference between turn-based games like HSR and action game like Genshin. Basically Genshin has a lot more dimensions within its gameplay that every single character feels different to play, so they don't have to do powercreep to sell new characters. I think he also explained it in more details in his first impression video. But that's the basic idea. In any case, if you haven't been able to figure out by now that Genshin and HSR gameplay are clearly different, maybe a further explaination won't help you much either lol
And you take everything he says as the absolute truth? What dimensions does Genshin gameplay even have? Every Genshin new 5* character is literally a copy of an already existing 4* char lmao. There's absolutely nothing innovative in any of the newer chars. And the new 4*'s? They just make every single one of them trash so no one will bother using them and they won't have to create a new, functional and original kit. Now, if you were talking about HI3rd gameplay I'd agree, cause every characters plays differently there, there's much more buttons and all that. But In Genshin? You literally press 2 buttons and switch, that's all. Every char does something different and has different animations though... just like HSR. Yes, one is action rpg and the other one is turn based, that doesn't change anything in this regard. Actually, characters in HSR have more buttons, passives and uniqueness than the characters in Genshin. And in terms of strategy, HSR has as much dimension as Genshin. You have different enemies, with different weakness' (that's already enough to diversify which character will be better each time), with different mechanics, characters have different roles (even characters within the same path), different synergies between them... Just like powercreep isn't a blatant problem in Genshin, it won't be in HSR because there's a lot of diversity. We have leaks of characters up to 1.5 and none of them are Hunt characters; Seele, for example, will maintain her niche as single target quantum dmg dealer for a long time. And doesn't Genshin need "powercreep" to sell characters too? Every successful banner in Genshin was very strong in terms of meta. Nahida, Raiden, Ayaka, Hu Tao, Yelan... Meanwhile characters such as Yoimiya, Yae, Kokomi flopped hard.
@@caiovaz6246 it's fine if you don't like zajef (which beg the question as to why you're here, but, well). I myself don't always agree with his take. But at least try to understand an argument properly before rebutting it, please. There's a reason why Genshin TC's need hours long of vids to explain elemental reaction in Genshin, because it really is that deep and involves multiple layers of mechanism. Whereas elemental weakness in HSR is just, elemental weakness. You break it with an appropriate element, that's it. And that doesn't even take into account various features that makes ARPG gameplay inherently richer than turn-based, like idk, being able to jump perhaps? I am pretty sure you know that the amount of buttons you press in both games are practically the same and it doesn't tell anything, right? Please stop embarrassing yourself.
@@kalaaw Who said I didn’t try? Your argument just doesn’t make any sense. Do you REALLY think jumping makes Genshin richier than HSR? That people won’t roll for news characters without powercreep because they don’t jump?? Yeah, elemental reactions has many layers of mechanism… to theorycraft. In practice it’s not that complicated at all. And there are characters that doesn’t even rely on elemental reactions, such as Eula, Itto, Zhongli… I don’t dislike Zajef but this “HSR won’t be able to sell characters without powercreep” take is just dumb. It’s literally the same thing as in Genshin and I just explained why. 1. Characters won’t be powercrept that easily 2. People will still roll for husbandu/waifu and fun factor. Meta characters will sell more but it’s the same thing as Genshin. Your whole argument is “in Genshin you can jump so Zajef is right”?
I keep being somewhat tempted to try star rail, but I just don't care for turn based combat, and it doesn't sound like star rail does anything that could make it worth playing anyway. I haven't even finished the game of pokemon I started probably seven years ago 🤷♀ I might get it on my phone if I'm a passenger for a long road trip, but I'm probably more likely to reach for that game of pokemon I already started.
Curious how this Roguelike mode is gonna hold up in long term. Imo Genshin already keeps gently trying out systems like this in combat events, but with the way balance shakes out, at high investment players basically ignore the mechanics and stat check everything to death. So there’s no replay value or even added interest, hope it’s implemented better here
I like a lot of things about Star Rail, but the combat is just... boring. I dont like turn based games that much, but i enjoyed my time playing Persona 5 a lot, but in Star Rail i just played it for a day, then uninstalled it.
Great Video even if I don't agree that puzzles are mor difficult in HSR. I'm really dumb and I have never spent more than 3 min solving a puzzle in HSR (hehe). It's Really ridiculous people compairing HSR and Genshin. Genshin is a Masterpiece and there is SO much more to explore in Genshin than in HSR. I Really Love HSR but there is ZERO content (besides repeating Simulated Universe) right now, correct? The ONLY thing "players" are doing in HSR is farming and crying about how hard it is to level up their characters, Cones, Tracers, Relics. Play at your own pace and enjoy HSR as well as Genshin or don't play it. 🙂
We saw a scuffed Sim Universe event for the next patch so they could be testing things. Kinda like what they do with some game mechanics like the Nahida camera
Yes, please make more HSR content, Genshin seems like it's gonna be in a content drought for a while. Also if you get more into the TC side of things in the future, you should collab with Grimro- he normally does a lot of TC stuff in Path of Exile but he's been doing it for HSR recently.
Yes Genshin is dry, however the combat in this game is even more dry, there are so many other non hoyo games that actually appreciate your time. So personally imo 1 hoyo game at the time is the most dryness I can handle in my life. I didn't get past day 4 of playing hsr, AFK arena at least had me playing for a full year even if it's a mobile turnbased game so I would recommend that one more than HSR personally.
Not really a need to compare them, they are both different games. It's not a "downgrade" It's just a different combat system. This is such a weird complaint.
I think more star rail content from you would be grea! Enjoy it. More theory crafting brain on this game is fun (even if its more limited compared to Genshin) Hopefully new characters can do something to mix it up... somehow....
As a viewer of gaming streams, I have to say that HSR gameplay is very boring to watch. Maybe it's fun to play, but all the fights look the same and too repetitive visually. I have to skip every HSR stream from my favourite streamers or I go mad. But now I have nothing to watch because everyone stream HRS haha. Sad.
Probably there won't be brutal powercrept if each characters they will release have unique playstyle that if play optimally can be meta, such as DoT, follow up attack, etc. And try balancing every teamcomps power level. So most of characters are gonna be meta. So that way we can choose the teamcomp we enjoy. And hopefully character like Silver Wolf will make our team more flexible against different enemies. Please hoyoverse keep upgrading the SU system to be better (maybe the balance of each path, new curio, etc) Inhale hopium. Because I really loves SU and hope I get better experience on experimenting different characters.
Aware that this game will have less content than genshin, since there are no open world exploration, which is significant part of genshin content. Events looks to be similar for both games
I think Honkai star rail is the perfect game to make videos about currently because Genshin feels kinda dry with the current patch
this is exactly their merkting plan
Lowkey I think people's perception of content is largely just colored by gacha. Baizhu and Kaveh aren't very exciting meta-wise but 3.6 is about the same amount of content as 3.4 and the exploration is (imo) way better, but nobody seemed to have a problem with 3.4 because of HT, Yelan, and Homa+Aqua banners 🤷♀️
@@mia_2043 I never even did the world quests in 3.5/6. With that and Star Rail, I have lots of stuff to do.
gacha games (unless ur like a mega whale and ur in a competitive gacha, or u like grinding out flowers and other mats that dont require resin) are side games not meant to be played every single day for 12+ hours, its also part of hoyos entire plan, release a good amount of gacha games that can all be treated as side games, while one game is in downtime, the others arent, basically rotating between games
@@herexcellency4304 it really is. Create a heavily dry patch in Genshin, release their new game, bored Genshin players try it out and then return on the immense Fontaine hype train that we got at the end of the last livestream PepeLa
I enjoy this for very different reasons. With Genshin, I have to be much more active in my participation. Its great when Im at home on my PC. Star Rail is a lot more fun when Im on lunch break or sitting at the DMV or have a 3 hour layover between flights. I'm not getting fucked by being on my phone.
For people that dont spend a lot of time out of the house I can see it being kind of redundant.
Yes, simulated universe is so much fun and is literally the best gamemode in HSR. I kept sending survey forms for genshin about making an endgame content similar to Elysian Realm (which is from HI3rd and where HSR took inspiration to), and I thought they already have one planned out and labyrinth warriors was like a testing event for a future rougelike to be added in the game. But instead they made it a limited event only. Even the hypostasis and kenki event where fun gamemodes too and the fact that you can co-op for higher points, but again instead of implementing it in the game its made to be a limited time event.
Its also been a while since they re-released these events. All this puzzles and coop parlor game events feels really boring honestly
I genuinely don't understand why they haven't added an Elysian Realm to Genshin yet
@@Siecyl ikr, if time is there concern, they could really just take HI3 approach and make the dailies or at least just the domains auto-able. That way only the fun game modes are left, which doesn't even stresses a player to do a lot every single day since it is a weekly. You can binge play it on a weekend when you're not busy with work/studies and be done with dailies on a weekday for like 5mins pressing buttons
@@Siecyl i think hi3 elysium realm has way too many 'floors' so to speak. Its just the right amount in star rail. if they did decide to add that after Snezhnaya i hope its the star rail version
@@mangshu21 yeah too many floors, its fun at first but now it feels like a chore
Well maybe because Genshin characters rely on reactions to do damage except Geo and maybe Anemo, unlike HI3 and Star Rail so that's why they are taking a long time to do it.
i have always loved your in-depth calculations and excel sheets. as a trained office clerk, they resonate with me👌. I would love to see the type of content you do for Genshin, here in star rail. your analisys and calculations and how you deliver them are peak!
Lets see how much powercreep occurs in the future, hope the current characters remain viable in the future.
Power creep is inevitable in a turn based game, but because of the toughness bar it should take a while to truly power creep a character because not only does a new character have to do what the old one does it also has to be the same element. So like they can put out a better Seele, but if they’re an element other than Quantum Seele will still have a use.
@@Zer0Hour17 I agree. Due to class system - tank, buffer, healer, AOE dps, ST dps and different elements + different ways to do dmg - DOT's, crits, Follow ups they dont need to implement powercreep for at least year or two. Also in fact story wise you will be able to play the game with March + Dan, clear SU and only last floors on MoC will be hard.
@@Zer0Hour17 also path. Because only certain paths can equip certain light cones
Most likely will be better than genshin reverse powercreep
with Jing Yuan release, its seems Power creep gonna be easy. since he really all about dmg that straight forward, i dunno how impactfull serval shock extended is but yea its already so straight up upgrade.
Would love to see a video on speed! star rail is shaping up to be that lazy login game where you wont miss out by just logging in for dailies for a few minutes (like genshin) but has a stamina-free game mode that's actually fun and even contributes to in-game progression, on the days people _do_ feel like playing longer (unlike genshin omegalul)
he already did on stream czcams.com/video/C1D_mXZZIyU/video.html
pretty sure there's already a video of zajef explaining speed, just not quite sure if its in the official channel or the clips one (zajef daily)
How does this so called free stamina gamemode works? And what does it contributes?
@@vinniegret4841 you know how rogue-like games work? Honkai has a variant of that called Simulated Universe. Where you go through different dungeons and aquire buffs (blessings like genshin) and make choices for higher risk rewards.
Zajef explains why its by far the best gamemode but to sum it up, its a fun infinitely replayable gamemode that offers rewards for playing it.
@@pianobat2827 What incentive do they have? I want to know just dont want to play HSR. And as i get it, it doesent end at so called 12-3, and goes further infinitely yeah?
I'm not interested in star rail content about specific characters, but I'd be willing to watch discussion videos about the game overall.
Same honestly, bcuz my brother play it but i don't. He the one who make me play Genshin in the first place. I don't want another hassle tho. Let see how long he can last play hsr.
Can't say I'd really care to see more HSR content since I have no intention of playing it, but if your audience wants it by majority, then you do you. Wouldn't feel right to try and dictate your content, especially if it's something people want to see and all the more so if it's content you want to produce.
Respectable opinion.
It's not like we don't have intuition already, we just need to "tc" ourselves in genshin if zajeff takes longer to do tc because of tcing in both games
Just some intuition based on all what we learned, test and compare in abyss, don't overate or underate units at release and that's it.
It's longer than the excel method but if someone doesn't know how to calculate dps based on the frames and rotations it will take the same as learning all that.
Safe to say a lot of people like HSR so including Zajeff otherwise he wouldn't be playing it. Makes sense to make content about things you enjoy even if you don't see yourself playing it long term.
@@ejun251 its still new so its getting views. Lets see how its doing 3 months from now
It's better than genshin
Yeah, I think adding SU like content in genshin will make the endgame of genshin so much fun, no timer, just buffed up enemy with strong HP and attack.
It's gonna be so sad when people stop being underleveled and realize SimUni isn't actually endgame and just a glorified relic farm domain :(
Would love to see a special high-difficulty rotating World to function as SimUni endgame but I'm not holding my breath
My plan was to build up a stockpile of Jade from the early game, passively log in to build TR for a while, then come back several months from now when there's a bit more content and more characters to choose from.
What I've been thinking too and since I read some leaked kit of future 5* characters which are really interesting so better to save a lot for them.
I already have all but 2 of the 4 star characters and I’m not even done with the first planet yet. I got a 5 star very early on the Seele banner, but lost the 50/50 so I’m waiting to pull again for a while.
Im just a Bronya wanter so Im just vibing doing pulls on any limited banner to see what happens first: the 300 pull pity for me to get Bronya or if I will lose the 50/50 to her...
I have an e1 Seele rn, got Welt from the guaranteed 5* and Himeko on my first pity 76 on standard.
Lmao same, I am saving my guaranteed for Kafka and until then I should have about 200 tickets (I bought the welkin equivalent with some credit I had on google play) and then playing the wathever.
Great to see a trusted source give their opinions on HSR like Zajef does.
I'm on the fence on trying it, but 1:47 is a deal-breaker. Elemental reactions mixing and matching is what hooked me up into Genshin. A wonderful upgrade from my experience playing Dragon Nest back in the day. And they did not transfer that aspect here. But hey, for those who enjoys this kind of gameplay, good for you.
if you like good story with characters full of charisma you may like the game.
@@pontoancora I don't mind good story/lore, but I'm not actively searching for it.
Explosions on the other hand - inject it into my veins! Burgeon reactions, one-shot Raiden ults, E punch from Heizou, rocket attacks from Ning C6, those action-packed things. That I like.
HSR does not have that based on my eye test.
It also means Geo will always be underwhelming. Xiangling will always be OP. Hydro as an element will always be valued more etc. It’s frustrating when you know some characters will never be as good because of their element.
@@bletwort2920 Geo is good, the entire point of geo is to be yellow physical. It's supposed to be inert.
Xiangling is strong, but teams that don't have xiangling are still very viable (e.g. taser, soup, bloom, hyperbloom and burgeon)
Hydro is valuable, but every team doesn't need hydro (mono geo, aggravate, spread, other mono teams).
Not quite sure if this is just "muh genshit bad 🤓" or an actual comment, but if it is the latter, genshin's balancing have been pretty good in terms of elements. Most elements shine in their specific niches.
I have mostly the same opinion about HSR. The game is turn based, which isn't my favorite, but the game has a great story, visuals, audio, etc and that makes for a game I can casually enjoy on the side. I can see myself playing it at least until ZZZ or Wuthering Waves drops, but after that I'd probably only log in for the story updates instead of every day.
My guess for *powercreep* would be that, just like in Genshin, HoYo intends to create both a 4-Star and a 5-Star for each _[archetype + element + role]_ combination, then tune certain event content to be easier with the "flavor of the month" units: There are currently 7 elements and 7 paths in the game, totalizing 49 possible different combinations and 98 potential characters... This is enough variety to build niches for at least 5 years or so without having to repeat archetypes other than [4-Star vs. 5-Star] variants. The event tuning would come from having rules and damage thresholds that benefit certain paths, then mobs of certain elements - say, making the player complete a challenge under 5 turns to get all prizes, or having to use shields in order to stall and survive phase changes for a while.
TL;DR: There won't be much powercreep, unless you ignore 4/5-Star variants, paths and elements - and those _will_ weight on future content, mark my words.
Agree. Idk why people are overreacting about star rail getting powercreeped like genshin when it's a turn based. It's pretty difficult to powercreep in turn based typa games
Look at some leaks because we're pretty much getting a better Dan heng a better support for seller than bronya
@@Name-lq4hz It's very easy to powercreep in TBG's and happens literally all the time lol. Turn based gacha games have the worst power creep in existence.
@@Name-lq4hz Pokemon, a turn based RPG that isn't a gacha, has powercreep so insanely bad that they have 8+ tiers where players pick and choose who goes in where just to curb powercreep as much as possible
I fear the simulated universe will just be a relic farm at max difficulty, I hope they at least add like a world 7 on a rotation like the memory of chaos
It may become another way to promote new characters by adding bosses of their element and (maybe) mechanics. But should be beatable for longterm player.
It'll just be way better if they add more paths because theres no path of harmony or erudition altho they're one of the 7 main paths
Pretty sure they will add more worlds as we progress through the story and get more bosses.
They will probably add new 5 star light cones to herta's shop as well since the ones we have in the shop rn correlate to the regions we have on the map and the paths trailblazer unlocks/will unlock on them.
Every world represents story bosses, so new bosses - new worlds
obviously bro simulated universe is piss easy like it should be because its just a way to grind relics
After a few weeks of playing, the novelty sorta wore off for me, so Im back to catching up to Genshin quests. Part of it is because it's another game I have to keep up with. Another reason is because my friends have rushed to near level 50, which made me lose motivation, because they dropped Genshin to dedicate all their playtime to Star Rail. The biggest reason though is because I've generally been more busy IRL.
Overall, I'd say it's a great game with one of the better launches of any game in recent years. If you like turn based combat, then Star Rail is a blast to play. Otherwise, the gameplay can and will get repetitive as you progress further into the game.
As someone who likes space more than fantasy, and JRPG's more than character action, HSR is an absolute banger. Didn't expect I would like it this much, and the QoL improvements over Genshin really add up. Now we just need more content, because once you're done with the story there is a lot of downtime.
You can say that but if you've played a lot of JRPGs then the combat is definitely the most boring piece of garbage in a game ever.
HSR is like the perfect game to have on my phone and play during my lunch break or on the bus, because the gameplay doesn't punish me too much for being on mobile, while Genshin feels terrible on mobile. Overall, not sure if it will keep me hooked for +2 years like Genshin did, but it's certainly nice to enjoy more casually
Yeah despite how much I love the characters on Star Rail I just don't see myself enjoying it long term. Especially investing money on the game when it's pretty clear that the characters that are strong right now are not gonna last long enough.
I just wish HYV actually made a collab between both Genshin and Star Rail to advertise the game rather than making Genshin feel dry af for a couple of months lol
How is it pretty clear though? I think people are being too negative on the supposed future powercreep, considering it's a casual PvE game and seeing how Hoyo has handled "powercreep" in Genshin. As long as new units aren't mandatory to complete content, it should be fine.
Besides, we have a LOT of leaks on future characters, enough for the next 1-2 years probably. Let's take Seele, only a couple of leaked 5 stars are the Hunt, none of them being Quantum. That means Seele is far from being directly powercrept, and as a pure damage dealer she's in the most vulnerable role.
@@betulla96 IMO genshin’s powercrept somehow got saved by trinity(bennet,xiangling,xinqiu) which so strong even sometimes better than 5star. They keep relevant until now so nearly no 4star far better than them until they got C6(faruzan/sara for example with limited team). Also genshin had a little char with similar role eventhough they had released so many characters, can’t do much powercrept comparison.
Contrary in HSR, that game demands specific element/path to defeat enemy. In the future i do believe you need specific debuff to prevent enemy, buff/heal while give enough damage with specific element to break enemy, and so on. They would sell it in forgotten hall or simulated universe for sure. Maybe for now you can do it with all free character include standard 5star. In the future i do believe you need a lot of alternative, thats why for gacha thing HSR very generous compared with Genshin.
@@betulla96 Let's not sit here and pretend that Seele, Jing Yuan, Bailu etc are going to remain the strongest characters for long. The element of a character matters very little when the role is the one being powercrept.
I mean, sure you don't *need* the new characters to clear content, this is true for Genshin too but you cannot possibly believe that HYV will not realese content that is noticeably easier to clear if you have a certain unit over others.
I mean if you enjoy it, good for you. All I'm saying is the concept of a turn based gacha (of which I have played a few) is not really something that I look myself playing long term and thus I don't think it's worth it for me to even give it a try
Yeah, I think I would like to see your theory crafting perspective on Starrail. I don't see much in the way of theory Crafting except for people translating Chinese theory crafting charts.
Hoyo marketing strat is working out and I’m just so gutted that a well anticipated Genshin patch (Baizhu) is what they sacrificed for this game’s release wave to dominate the gacha circles.
They really borderline starved one game to make you migrate to a new one. Haven’t played HSR, but the ads are on everything for me since I consume Genshin content. Shit sucks.
I agree. Star rail feels fairly fun, but just can't see how it'll hold up in the long run.
Maybe the game will hold it by the characters charisma alone. That is very strong. The combat system is very simple, great for first timers, but cant hold for too long.
@@pontoancora definitely the characters (and the story). I like the combat in the first few times but it gets really tedious the more you go through the game and against extremely tanky enemies it just gets downright boring.
@@abyssmage6979 yeah
I wouldn't mind seeing Star Rail content at all. More Zajef shenanigans are always welcome regardless if they are in Genshin or Star Rail
I was really hyped about HSR and played it for a couple weeks, then the combat got me bored. The main story is good but it takes way too much obnoxious npc fuckery to unlock it. I also have no motivation to spend my "resin", something about the UI makes it feel messy. Unlike most, I hate the simulated universe and being forced to play it in the quest list. Every battle is the same, it's so mindless there's literally an autopilot made for it. Pokemon is a game for 7 year olds and it feels miles more engaging. You can't base your entire game around combat and then make combat boring.
I'd love to see more star rail content, in particular some guides to aspects of the mechanics like speed or break would be great
I just created a new Genshin character! They are a Natlan, tall, male, anemo, catalyst shielder/enabler with long ranged everything. The shield gains the element of whatever the element of the skill hit is, adding 250% damage absorption to the element absorbed, on top of the 250% anemo absorption. The shield scales off EM, in both absorption and damage, at 180% EM + 5298 at level 10. The shield pulses like Xinyans, doing elemental damage slightly first like Kazuha, then hitting with anemo damage, swirling to nearby things. The shield generates two elemental particles, anemo and the element absorbed, unless it does not absorb a element, in that case he just gets an anemo particle. His skill has a 15 second cooldown, with a 18 second shield, and the shield pulses every 2.4 seconds. His burst is a large field that pulls everything towards you for 2 seconds, healing based on every enemy in the radius being pulled, with no ICD and hitting every 0.3 seconds. The damage of the burst also has a high scaling off EM, at 243% EM + 9618. Their first passive makes it so that hydro swirls do damage if under his shield, and adds a 2% damage bonus to all hydro reactions, scaling off 30 EM each 2%, also while under his shield. His second passive increases the range of his already large burst by 40%, and adds Gale of Death stacks every time he swirls. Gale of War stacks increase all reaction and physical damage by 10%, capping at 8 stacks. His first constellation decreases the internal cooldown of all party members for 3 seconds every time his shield hits, by 1 second. His second constellation gives his team 20% damage res when Gale of War is active, also decreasing any enemy res by 10% after getting hit by the burst. His third constellation is skill levels, his fourth increases all team normal attack damage by 20% while under his shield. His fifth is burst levels and his sixth constellation adds a mini burst, 40 of the second passive buffed burst size, with damage buffed by +80% and hitting every 0.2 seconds every time he swirls with a normal attack, with a 15 second cooldown and 12 second duration. oh yeah, and his normal attacks have very high scaling's at 150% 1, 162 2, 180 3 and 200 4. His base stats are low to make up for his power though, at 8912 base HP, with 120 base ATK, 452 base DEF and 82 ascension EM. Please rate or talk about my build. Did you like it? Thanks for reading to the end!
I would be playing if it was on PS5 already 😔
I can relate 😢
[Blizzard voice] Don't you guys have phones???
supposedly its next patch
I know the Blizzard meme but it actually runs nicely on phones and low end PCs. I have a PC with a 3060 but I can also play it on medium settings on my Galaxy S21 with no issues. I'd suggest trying it if you're interested
Try mobile instead until 1.1 arrives. It also helps that you're creating a Hoyoverse account instead of sticking yourself into Sony's ecosystem and being stuck with PS5, but allows variety through Hoyo's account.
Attention, for those who havent played this game yet or are still in the early game: The rogue like IS NOT ENDGAME. U only get one time rewards and there is no rotation. Also its incredibly easy. It might be a bit challenging very early on but once ure geared up later in the game it becomes like a walk in the park. Do not expect it to becomes any significant part of your experience.
So to add to the video, no, just because u enjoy rogue-likes doesnt mean ull enjoy this game.
Yep i already full auto-ing it lmao.
Outside of the one-time rewards you also gain points to get other rewards which refresh every week.
The rewards literally reset weekly
I'm pretty sure it has additional world levels(like 3-2 3-3 3-4) what world level are you on that it's a cake walk
Nothing about this is true lol, the rewards reset weekly.
the fact that they are only going to add one planet per year is incredibly disappointing, this isn't like genshin where they have to make a massive open world area, all the explorable areas are mostly hallways they can afford to do more.
wait omg what 1 planet a year 😭😭💀 that is insane
They're just going to flesh out each existing planet with the updates. I can already see issues with trying to create an entirely new planet every month.
They really said that? Where? Holy shit if this is true... my god, it will be disappointing.
@@lawfulgoodnun1646 it doesn’t need to be one a month, but it’s not a Genshin region s worth of content, it’s a few corridors and a few new simple enemies/puzzles, that should not take 1 year to make
@@meepswag35 but it would also need a whole new story, which is absolutely why they’ll expand planets rather than add new ones all the time. They already built that in. Belebog will uncover more areas as the freeze slowly recedes and space china has multiple ships.
Its tough rn since HSR is super hyped by all the Genshin creators I follow, but I just can’t play the slower turn based combat gameplay. Wish Hoyo would improve Genshin a little but this is probably whats going to push me back to only playing Destiny again smh
I am exact opposite. I dont mind playng turn based games like Xcom but in HSR I dont play anything. I just auto all batlles except story ones. I even dont watch them XDD.
Definitely yes more videos of HSR! I don’t really know any trustworthy TC for Honkai. I really like your Genshin TC, like close-to-precise roles and explanations/in-depth guides. And I’d rather not have someone saying “oh this char is meh,” but you say more detailed reason, following-up with “this is why…”
I mean, we are at patch 1, there are no trustworthy TC. Everything is being figured out. There isn't even a standard investment threshold yet. Imo before 1.3 drops, every single TC result that is character strength based and not mechanic based should be taken with a truck load ocean of salt anyway.
@@jonhsmith8238 I get it, but lots of YTbers don’t really show exactly what I honestly need. Like going back to Genshin for a sec, there’s guides, videos, but they really don’t explain the specifics that TC, or Zajef, honestly does. Even if it means talking crap about my fav chars, it’s more like I’m getting useful information.
Like how he talked about Ganyu’s placeholder in the current patch. Yeah, he did say she’s not strong, but he deeply analyzed it, on how to play her, what her strongest teams, and with Calcs and explanation of these calcs.
I can get the gist/basic information about chars kits in HSR, but I really enjoy the deeper meaning, cause I ain’t smart. I’m really dumb LOL. I only watch one person rn, but idk if I trust their word specifically? (If you know any tho pls lmk)
Hopefully this is understandable to read.
Sure, it will take awhile to actually figure everything out, but Zajef does such an incredible job with Genshin in such a short amount of time, so it’s why I want him to cover some HSR chars!
i would recommend grimrogatcha. they're actually pretty good at explaining stuff
@minh duc *semi-reliable. Spreadsheat =/= reliability. Like, the dude is doing MoC strat while being 20 levels down with defensive Bronya, speed YQ as a survivability tool, and 134 speed as a way to one-shot first wave with an E2S1 Seele.
It's very cool to know in4 from him, but you shouldn't take it as reliable until everyone is at standard investment and there are updated guides for minmaxing at that standard, because whether or not something applies to you specifically is totally up in the air. Most of the indepth stuffs are half-baked and unreliable rn, that's the reason why there aren't a lot of them.
@@minhduc132 thank you!
thanks for the breakdown, doesn't seem that appealing to me, but it's nice to see a breakdown like this giving useful info
would love to see future videos, i'm very curious to hear your thoughts and how your opinions develop as we start to better understand the game systems and get further in progression
what zajef says at 9:04 about turn based and power creep is so true. Imo turn based and gacha is the WORST combination, I personally hate powercreep as it just ends up making old characters feel like shit compared to newer ones, which is very wasteful. Better when everything has a purpose and use case!
This is an average experience on Fate Grand Order. Totally agree
Happy playing FGO with my year 1 units still being relevant.
If you're not using or borrowing any of the recent supports like Merlin, Castoria, tamamo; you got my respect. Otherwise, this is just power creeping
@@djlightlessI play the hard stuff in FGO without Merlin and Castoria as a rule, I grailed my Mozart to 100 even to show respect to my 1-3* greats. I'd say powercreep hit FGO bad but not really in a way where it stops you from clearing content because the kinda stuff you need to beat the content the game throws at you is very little.
You can beat the game with 1-3*s albeit it's tough so just going along and using your favourite 4* and 5*s be they old or new is completely managable.
Powercreep only hit FGO in the sense that Castoria exists and ruined future character kit designs. Everyone has to have a battery now for example. Pre Castoria there was almost no powercreep except like merlin and skadi
Also with the way FGO does strengthening quests there's always hope for bad units and also some really early units are still on top of the meta, for example Ozymandias ans Enkidu are like the best units in their classes.
As for HSR, as long as they don't go overboard and come back to buff old units like Epic7 and FGO do the powercreep should be manageable
Honestly, i have no interest in HSR. Turn based games aren't my thing, and if i wanted to suddenly play one, already have a bunch of them in my Steam Library, with more interesting mechanics, gameplay and visual presentation than the ones showed in HSR.
But hey, its your channel. Is up to you to decide what to do.
I personally find the combat system, world navigation and lore uninteresting.
Tried it since launch and already dropped it. Simulated universes are cool but not something I find as fun and worth my time.
Would be interested in a video on Speed. Seems to be a strange an unexplained concept.
More speed = earlier turn in the order.
he talked about it on stream czcams.com/video/C1D_mXZZIyU/video.html
I think GrimroGacha has videos explaining speed, he's originally a Path of Exile theorycrafter.
Speed is pretty simple and works about the same as final fantasy 10. Certain arche types want more speed while some want less
1. Shielders/buffer/debuffer (most speed)
2.dps.
3. Healers and clara. (Give them the lowest speed or dont build speed at all.)
i got ambushed and my seele still got turn before the enemies lol. She is 135 speed and using speed boots.
I would love to see HSR content from you.
I specially look forward to some contents basically beating the content practically via Math.
I don't care for Star Rail, basically just here for Zajef explaining and teaching stuff, although I am looking fowards the potential Zelda Tears of the Kingdom content he brought up in one of his streams tho.
I've played it since launch, and I'm planning on dropping it. The combat just isn't fun at all to me. The story seems good so far, but I just can't bring myself to play it anymore.
thats perfectly fine, my FOMO finally wore off on genshin and ive been playing less (current patch content is not helping with that either)
what made you play hsr? for me i just tried it on a whim but now i have a favorite character im a BIT willing to see through lol
Yeah you can't really bring yourself to love a genre this was me with pgr and hi3 hack and slash games with so many skills just overwhelms and confuses me
@@luiss428 I decided to play it because people were hyping it up, and I figured I would give it an honest try. Playing it for a few days didn't seem like an honest evaluation of the game. I wasn't hyped for it at all until a few days before release, when I started watching content on it. I knew that playing two gachas wouldn't be a good idea, so I essentially abstained from looking at anything relating to the game. Once release came around, that became unavoidable.
To be fair to the game, the writers did an excellent job (especially with some of the investigate markers), and the story is pretty good, but there just isn't enough to warrant slogging through gameplay that I don't like (another reason I didn't look at anything). When new content is out, there probably will be a lot to like (until you finish that), but other than that? No, I can't say it's for me.
@@matthewmalaker477 thats perfectly fine theres a clear difference in interest when it comes to turn based games. Some hate it and prefer live combat while others prefer the opposite.
I find it very common for people who love genshin to have a hard time enjoying star rail due to the drastic change in gameplay from free flow to turn base.
I don't agree with the powercreep statement. I have always found that people overrate how much you can do in Genshin just cause you can move your character. There's still no getting past F12 if you don't have a certain amount of damage and "moving" is more of a virtual feeling rather than anything. Who even tries to dodge F12 consecrated beasts at this point? You just brute force them with enough DPS or retry the chamber cause u got oneshoted lol. It's fundamentally the same as in HSR. Genshin is not Dark Souls and moving/dodging is not the big deal most people make it out to be.
It kinda feels like they took a certain event that happened in Genshin once, which everyone loved but never had a rerun, and worked on it for the sim universe in HSR
Their original mode that was similar to SU is the Elysian Realm in Honkai Impact 3rd. After that, they had the Labyrinth event in Genshin. Now they have SU. I would have liked that mode in Genshin permanently with harder enemies, but, you know, we don't want to have anxiety lol
So much potential never again explored
I enjoy HSR right now especially with these dry patches (Fontaine waiting room). I don't see myself being super invested in the game, but I can see myself playing casually for the long-term. Pretty good game to play when you're on the go.
I've played FGO since NA launch, although there is powercreep they usually buff old units enough that you can pretty much play whoever you want. Mihoyo never buffing characters in genshin does have me a bit worried about the future though
I don't know if it's because I've been playing turn-based gachas for a long time now, but I really like HSR gameplay no matter how simple it is compared to other turn-based games. I know having stuff that you can afk may turn-off most people, but it's pretty fine by me. I find automation fun, like what you can expect in Factorio, Satisfactory, and incremental games. I understand that HSR may appear repetitive to some, but at the very least you have lesser participation than with Genshin domains; you won't feel the burnout that much. Besides, gacha games are designed to be more of a side game stuff. Also compared to Genshin, HSR is wayyy better to play on phone. I'm just afraid of the potential powercreep in the game in the future if it does have, like what happens in Epic Seven. But knowing how Hoyo does a decent job on Genshin powercreep, I feel confident that they can also manage this game properly as well. In retrospect I think this game is perfect for those who don't mind turn-based combat and are quite busy IRL, because this game has fast dailies and weeklies (SU is debateabke though), and explorations are smaller in size.
star rail is more casual-player-friendly i feel, which i love since i'm a slow casual player, but i've heard it can get tedious for those hardcore speedrunners
As someone who doesn't wants to play this game this vid is perfect because every other content I've seen is more like hype... Zajef is more objective and I love it.
Honestly very happy that you're giving this game a shot. I am loving playing it so far. IMO it's definitely worth my time and money - I play every day and I've only spent on the Express Pass. I like leveling my characters and taking on new content - higher levels in SU, higher Trailblaze Level, etc. It's fun collecting the gear and leveling them, as well as the traces. I like how the game gives you access to 4 and 5 star Light Cones easily as a low-spender. And they have been quite generous with the beginner banner, letting me get my favorite character, Bronya. I don't know how long I will play this game, but it's been a fun ride so far!
Oh yeah, the story is pretty good, the VAs are great, and the writing is FANTASTIC. I can see myself coming to this game just to play the story and check out all the writing as they release new worlds.
HSR puzzles are nice in that they have reasonable progression curve where you start of with ultra trivial but then it's trivial, very easy, easy, sometimes reaching "oh, i had to think for few seconds here" at the last ones which is quite satisfying (compass! minecarts!). Genshin puzzles are all ultra trivial until suddenly one is kinda hard and doesn't even have proper explanation and it's back to trivial ones. Also Inazuma ones were disproportionately harder than all the other regions - it's nice that they are harder but it's not nice how big the jump was compared to mond/liyue. And sumeru... just leads player by hand through every step ;/
9:06 That's exactly what I told people when asked why I don't play this game instead of/as well as Genshin. But some people still don't get it.
I would play it if it wasn't a gacha game, it looks fun. But I don't think I can appreciate pulling for new characters in a turn-based combat game compared to an action combat game. And ofc there's the powercreep issue.
I would rather not see more videos. I'm looking forward for the FOMO to go away and I don't think this game will last as long as Genshin.
i'm overwhelmed by star rail waves of content on channels that i used to watch, i turned off all the notification bells for them just zajeff is still on
Simulated Universe is frustrating, because it shows how good a Genshin roguelike could potentially be, but they refuse to make one outside of limited events. The combat system feels wasted with no actual challenges outside of the very boring Abyss.
It's probably just a "don't fix what ain't broke" mentality; the game has a license to print money, and any change to the profit-making systems could undermine that, so they almost never do it. (It's been almost 3 years and they still haven't changed the 4-stars in the starglitter shop... it doesn't even have all the 1.0 ones!) They could just make a roguelike with no primogem rewards, but the only optional game-mode they seem to care about is the TCG. It's just one of those things that will never happen. Like artifact loadouts.
I believe you would've progressed faster in this game if you had help from a friend since you started a bit later. You're a good friend of Zyox aren't you? He could've helped you and he also makes pretty good videos with the assistance of a very good theorycrafter that helps him by the name of Zajef
At this point I can't even tell if people are memeing or not
The game is good and ive been enjoying it but at the end of the day its literally Genshin but turnbased and honkai. SO many aspects of the game feel like they where legit ripped from Genshin and i think the gameplay loop is gonna be no different. The recent event feels exactly like a genshin one too. Memory of chaos is literally spiral abyss but its just hard right now because everyone is severely underleved and we have so few units. Its gonna be do dailies, stamina, play events, do your MoC every rotation, simulated universe, and wait for new zones/story. Only problem is zones in this game are so much smaller compared to genshin and the combat is more simple. I cant see it possibly keeping players like genshin does. i know a lot of people where comparing it to genshin, and its a breath of fresh air but end of the day its gonna be very similar just a little more boring IMO because of the lack of very intuitive gameplay
@JWB yeah I feel that I’m literally already at the point in that game where I’m at with genshin I login for 10 minutes do dailies and stamina then dip
honestly, with the way genshin's going and the amount of new content i can get out of both it & star rail, it's done me the best favor of getting me back into my other hobbies rather than wasting time on gatcha content. i find it personally embarrassing how much time i was spending on gatchas to begin with, so it's refreshing to take a break and get back into reading non-fiction and such in my free time rather than fostering a gambling problem.
I'd definitely want to see more Star Rail content. It has so many things that fix what I hate most about Genshin. You can even farm afk and you spend a much higher % of the time on the game actually enjoying it rather than repeating the same mundane activities that take 20+ minutes daily. Much better dialogue in stories. Great travel companions. Love the simulated universe and forgotten hall.
As someone who prefers live action battles I actually found the combat still enjoyable with all the different roles. Also the game doesn't have much exploring, which can be a pro or con depending on the person. It doesn't take anywhere near the same time commitment as Genshin
HSR feels like it just a stat sim.
im probably not gonna play star rail, but I do like watching zajef play it so im gonna watch these vids
I like Star Rail a lot but I don’t like the tiny maps. Like in forgotten halls and simulated universe the levels work fine since tiny maps fit the concept of both but regular adventuring feels so constrained. I guess I’m spoiled by being able to climb and glide almost anywhere.
I keep saying genshin should have labyrinth warriors event as a permanent Roguelike end game mode everyone would love it way more than abyss
I would rather have powercreep than the same thing happening with Genshin: Tbh, the later 4* are just forgettable, boring and/or straight up bad, or even 5*. Im so tired of the characters also being the same regarding mechanics or how the work (except the archons).
I hope they do it better with Star Rail regarding content as well, I think in this game we need more permanente hardcontent and events to make it interesting. I also enjoyed the story more, the characters are better developed.
It's still somewhat strange seeing Zajef do Star Rail content considering how uninterested he seemed at first but I really enjoy it. I'm actually probably quitting Genshin for a while until a 4.0 drops.
So, yes! More Star Rail content, please!
I'm curious why you think Star Rail will succumb to power creep considering Genshin has seemed to have had reverse power creep.
I mean he explained it. A character in a turn based game is just their stats. Like you can’t just get better at playing like in genshin. Though I think it will take a while for real power creep since a new character has to do the same thing as an old one but better and be the same element to truly power creep.
@@Zer0Hour17 not only the same element but also the same path
Theres clips of him genuinely enjoying his time playing it. Particularly early game when battles would end in close calls but he still replays the SU because like he says its interesting.
Star Rail is still a blast to play for me and hasn't gotten old yet. I devour all the Star Rail content I can get and see myself playing long term. It's disappointing Zajef doesn't plan to play long term and doesn't really like the game aside from SU, but it's okay, no game is for every one, and we still need him for Genshin too ha. GrimroGacha (theorycrafter from Path of Exile) is pretty good to watch for people looking for Star Rail TC content, he's like the Zajef of Star Rail.
Genshin is in one of its dryest patches as of now but I'm never playing this game ... I'd rather play the new Zelda Tears of the kingdom and catch up on other games Elden ring etc
I have no interest in star rail videos. I completely understand from a content creator pov that genshin doesnt have much to say atm, So it makes sense to switch to another game. But i would rather watch updated character builds.
Simulated Universe is just chef's kiss. Because there isn't much exploration involved in this game, they made this game mode to give out rewards.
Wish they did this for Genshin and allowed us to farm level up materials like elemental crystals, billets, talent material and Gladiator and Wanderers set.
yassss all the star rail content pls
The power creep in this game as a pve will be close with genshin but not as bad as hi3 tbh but yeah just like what they did in gi if there's really no pvp or leaderboards it doesn't matter as long as content is still beatable with older units
But they very well can go to genshin's route occasionally releasing strong units while most are just alright
After a while I will probably jump back in for patch/story updates and characters I like but its still early days Genshins early days seemed like that too.
I’m enjoying it run simply because husbandos in this game are hot and boss fight is more fun, Genshin sumeru week bosses are such a disappointment.
But I don’t see myself playing it long term, no way I am gonna farm for relics and get depressed again. If I hadn’t spent money on Genshin, I would have already quit. Since I got Raiden early this year I farm everyday, I only got a crappy two piece, daily logins feel like chore and no fun at all.
So for HSR I won’t spend anything and once I got Luocha, I am done I can drop it then whenever I want.
I can’t care about star rail at all and it just makes me sad that genshin feels neglected as fuck in comparison, when it is the game actually making money for hoyo, it receives no love at all.
calm down, we're in the dead patches before fontaine release. you won't be saying this when we get new features with the new hydro nation
hot take: hoyo doesn't need powercreep to sell characters for 2 reasons
a) they have enough whales who will buy everything they put out
b) they are good at designing appealing characters that people want to pull for regardless of power level
Mediocre characters in Genshin barely has any revenue they need something strong to sell like have you seen how pathetic baizhu banner revenue looking like?
Personally I think powercreep WILL happen but it won’t be as bad as people think. HoYoVerse as a company is made to give the player characters they love and want. If anything I doubt powercreep will happen in the natural sense. I think it’ll be like Honkai impacts way of doing things, that said Honkai is competitive this game isn’t. So with the lack of competitive content currently I really doubt powercreep will be a main problem.
To explain how I think they would do powercreep they will do it in a structure where characters will get upgrades through the Gacha system with something us honkai players call “battlesuits” they will be the same character but with different movesets and base types
For example kiana kaslana started as a Physical Mech type DPS, she then got an upgrade to be a Physical Bio type DPS with the release of the Herrscher of the void, her next BIG upgrade was her becoming the Herrscher of FlameScion that was a Fire Psychic type DPS and her current form that’s the strongest current character in the game is Herrscher of Finality where she’s a Fire Imaginary type DPS.
Genshin has now a period of regression/stagnation in terms of power level, so let's see if something simillar won't happen here in Star Rail. But your powercreep concerns may be very valid, only time will tell.
I love your deep dive videos theorycrafting about upcoming characters, it would be great if you could do the same for Star Rail when you have good enough grasp on power level of characters. Either way, I'll gladly watch more SR videos on CZcams.
Personally im playing untill the end of 1.1 to really decide if i wanna keep playing, not really hooked by the story and not really feeling any of the characters in particular(only one i like the look or is the leaked dan heng), i kinda really dont like how likely it looks like powercreep is gonna be a thing in this, i hate the idea of pulling a character only for them to be rendered obsolete by someone who does the same thing but better, dont wanna compare but that is one of the pros of genshin, mamy old units are still very viable and that doesnt seem like something carrying over to star rail. On the game play side i wish it was more complex, im a huge jrpg fan so im really familiar with turn based games and characters only having three things they can do each feels really limited to me. Biggest pro for star rail is definitely all the qol it has over genshin, hoping hoyo see the positive reception its received and implement some into genshin.
I hope they give more endgame mode, and update it, not like jenshin. So far we already see all of their content, from early, mid to endgame.
i probably stop play this after i beat MoC which means it will one or two month later. i already beat FH floor 15 when TB41, i can see myself clear it full star when TB55 to TB60
i dont wanna have stockholm syndrome on boring gacha game. right now i can pay for steam game, its good for mental health when i play another game to another game bcs its fun rather than become slave to gacha.
Powercreep in turn-based games can actually be alleviated with regular balance patch. At least there would be something new to try out every once in while without having to pull for a new character.
But if they decided to treat the character balancing like they do in Genshin and just never do any fckin shit unless the character is the god of "china", then yeah, RIP. There won't be anyone be anyone playing the game for long term aside from waifu collectors like me lol.
"But if they decided to treat the character balancing like they do in Genshin" "There won't be anyone be anyone playing the game for long term" then why are people playing Genshin long term?
@@caiovaz6246 zajef already explained it briefly in the vid, the difference between turn-based games like HSR and action game like Genshin. Basically Genshin has a lot more dimensions within its gameplay that every single character feels different to play, so they don't have to do powercreep to sell new characters.
I think he also explained it in more details in his first impression video. But that's the basic idea. In any case, if you haven't been able to figure out by now that Genshin and HSR gameplay are clearly different, maybe a further explaination won't help you much either lol
And you take everything he says as the absolute truth? What dimensions does Genshin gameplay even have? Every Genshin new 5* character is literally a copy of an already existing 4* char lmao. There's absolutely nothing innovative in any of the newer chars.
And the new 4*'s? They just make every single one of them trash so no one will bother using them and they won't have to create a new, functional and original kit.
Now, if you were talking about HI3rd gameplay I'd agree, cause every characters plays differently there, there's much more buttons and all that. But In Genshin? You literally press 2 buttons and switch, that's all. Every char does something different and has different animations though... just like HSR. Yes, one is action rpg and the other one is turn based, that doesn't change anything in this regard. Actually, characters in HSR have more buttons, passives and uniqueness than the characters in Genshin.
And in terms of strategy, HSR has as much dimension as Genshin.
You have different enemies, with different weakness' (that's already enough to diversify which character will be better each time), with different mechanics, characters have different roles (even characters within the same path), different synergies between them... Just like powercreep isn't a blatant problem in Genshin, it won't be in HSR because there's a lot of diversity. We have leaks of characters up to 1.5 and none of them are Hunt characters; Seele, for example, will maintain her niche as single target quantum dmg dealer for a long time.
And doesn't Genshin need "powercreep" to sell characters too? Every successful banner in Genshin was very strong in terms of meta. Nahida, Raiden, Ayaka, Hu Tao, Yelan... Meanwhile characters such as Yoimiya, Yae, Kokomi flopped hard.
@@caiovaz6246 it's fine if you don't like zajef (which beg the question as to why you're here, but, well). I myself don't always agree with his take. But at least try to understand an argument properly before rebutting it, please.
There's a reason why Genshin TC's need hours long of vids to explain elemental reaction in Genshin, because it really is that deep and involves multiple layers of mechanism. Whereas elemental weakness in HSR is just, elemental weakness. You break it with an appropriate element, that's it. And that doesn't even take into account various features that makes ARPG gameplay inherently richer than turn-based, like idk, being able to jump perhaps?
I am pretty sure you know that the amount of buttons you press in both games are practically the same and it doesn't tell anything, right? Please stop embarrassing yourself.
@@kalaaw Who said I didn’t try? Your argument just doesn’t make any sense. Do you REALLY think jumping makes Genshin richier than HSR? That people won’t roll for news characters without powercreep because they don’t jump??
Yeah, elemental reactions has many layers of mechanism… to theorycraft.
In practice it’s not that complicated at all. And there are characters that doesn’t even rely on elemental reactions, such as Eula, Itto, Zhongli…
I don’t dislike Zajef but this “HSR won’t be able to sell characters without powercreep” take is just dumb. It’s literally the same thing as in Genshin and I just explained why.
1. Characters won’t be powercrept that easily
2. People will still roll for husbandu/waifu and fun factor. Meta characters will sell more but it’s the same thing as Genshin.
Your whole argument is “in Genshin you can jump so Zajef is right”?
I keep being somewhat tempted to try star rail, but I just don't care for turn based combat, and it doesn't sound like star rail does anything that could make it worth playing anyway. I haven't even finished the game of pokemon I started probably seven years ago 🤷♀ I might get it on my phone if I'm a passenger for a long road trip, but I'm probably more likely to reach for that game of pokemon I already started.
Curious how this Roguelike mode is gonna hold up in long term. Imo Genshin already keeps gently trying out systems like this in combat events, but with the way balance shakes out, at high investment players basically ignore the mechanics and stat check everything to death. So there’s no replay value or even added interest, hope it’s implemented better here
I like a lot of things about Star Rail, but the combat is just... boring. I dont like turn based games that much, but i enjoyed my time playing Persona 5 a lot, but in Star Rail i just played it for a day, then uninstalled it.
Great Video even if I don't agree that puzzles are mor difficult in HSR. I'm really dumb and I have never spent more than 3 min solving a puzzle in HSR (hehe). It's Really ridiculous people compairing HSR and Genshin. Genshin is a Masterpiece and there is SO much more to explore in Genshin than in HSR. I Really Love HSR but there is ZERO content (besides repeating Simulated Universe) right now, correct? The ONLY thing "players" are doing in HSR is farming and crying about how hard it is to level up their characters, Cones, Tracers, Relics. Play at your own pace and enjoy HSR as well as Genshin or don't play it. 🙂
Here's to hoping for a Simulated universe equivalent for Genshin.
We saw a scuffed Sim Universe event for the next patch so they could be testing things. Kinda like what they do with some game mechanics like the Nahida camera
@@Kyle81290 yeah. I remember a labyrinth-like event back then. But that already a year ago.
@@arushiiru it's coming back for this patch
I'm really amused that Simulated Universe ends up being just "do your weekly chore of Hades runs in HSR"
better than genshin end game content at least but yeah they should improve it so it's more than that
Yes, please make more HSR content, Genshin seems like it's gonna be in a content drought for a while. Also if you get more into the TC side of things in the future, you should collab with Grimro- he normally does a lot of TC stuff in Path of Exile but he's been doing it for HSR recently.
o7 PagMan mr zajef thank you for your videos, really appreciated!
Yes Genshin is dry, however the combat in this game is even more dry, there are so many other non hoyo games that actually appreciate your time.
So personally imo 1 hoyo game at the time is the most dryness I can handle in my life. I didn't get past day 4 of playing hsr, AFK arena at least had me playing for a full year even if it's a mobile turnbased game so I would recommend that one more than HSR personally.
Yeah, I would like to see more
Personally have been enjoying star rail quite a lot, would definitely enjoy seeing more star rail content from u
Genshin the first and only gatcha game ill ever play
Nah, i'm good... Going from a really good action combat system to a very meh turn-based system is such a crazy downgrade that i can only laugh...
Not really a need to compare them, they are both different games. It's not a "downgrade" It's just a different combat system. This is such a weird complaint.
I would rather see niche videos like Ask Zajef 4 stars, weird teams, or videos of you reviewing your old videos to see how it holds up.
Simulated Universe content could be fun, but I don't know if the yt algorithm would throw a hissy fit since this channel focuses on Genshin tc.
Simulated Univers is what got me hooked to the game
I think more star rail content from you would be grea! Enjoy it. More theory crafting brain on this game is fun (even if its more limited compared to Genshin) Hopefully new characters can do something to mix it up... somehow....
As a viewer of gaming streams, I have to say that HSR gameplay is very boring to watch. Maybe it's fun to play, but all the fights look the same and too repetitive visually. I have to skip every HSR stream from my favourite streamers or I go mad. But now I have nothing to watch because everyone stream HRS haha. Sad.
Probably there won't be brutal powercrept if each characters they will release have unique playstyle that if play optimally can be meta, such as DoT, follow up attack, etc. And try balancing every teamcomps power level. So most of characters are gonna be meta. So that way we can choose the teamcomp we enjoy. And hopefully character like Silver Wolf will make our team more flexible against different enemies.
Please hoyoverse keep upgrading the SU system to be better (maybe the balance of each path, new curio, etc) Inhale hopium. Because I really loves SU and hope I get better experience on experimenting different characters.
Leaks say they are adding world 7 so there will likely be more worlds every few patches
I'd rather play honkai impact 3rd than this game after you finish the missions there's nothing to do anymore which makes it really boring
Aware that this game will have less content than genshin, since there are no open world exploration, which is significant part of genshin content. Events looks to be similar for both games