My hunting pack is a sawtooth 45 from MR. It uses this frame system and man, it’s stout. Last fall I harvested a white tail doe, and packed it out after after a quick field dress. Dressed weight of the deer was about 130 lbs. Add to that rifle, a couple of layers, and water, and it was loaded (yeah, I know, I should have quartered, dumb dumb moment on my part). The point is, this frame system carries a load extremely well!
Now that you have experience with the Terraframe 50, Terraframe 65 and Bridger 65. I’m curious what you would use each pack for and if you have a go-to favorite out of those three packs. I’m sold on Mystery Ranch. Solid build…an extra two pounds but I think the durability is worth it if you’re playing around in rocky areas.
I have a MR ravine 50. It is the heaviest and most comfortable backpack I own. In my opinion the ultimate goal is not so much light weight as it is comfort.
Thanks again Eric for promoting Mystery Ranch! I’ve told you before that you are the reason why I bought one…Sphinx 60. I’ve had it for almost 2 years and it is Amazing! I used it on a 6 day trip in the high Rockies and it was perfect! It was stuffed to the gills, but absolutely perfect! I feel I can take this pack anywhere on any trip and it will hold all the gear I need for a comfortable trip! Thanks again!
Your always informative and yeah 5 pounds is nothing if the load can be balanced properly you’ll be surprised what you can carry on your back. Thanks my man and quest on. Never get enough of your videos. SEMPER FI
I have the Terraframe 50 Tri-Zip for the load hauling capability and if I'm doing a cold weather overnighter or a family trip where I need to carry extra gear. Their external frame is amazing, and can carry some serious weight; far more than I'd ever want to.
This video was the deciding factor for me. Ive been using a 36 hour assault pack for the last 6 years in the CA mountains, and it works, but man does it wear out my back, and after 40 pounds, it becomes REALLY unweildy To also play umbridge, the buckles, snaps, and straps are all standard 1 inch, which means all of th3 tactical gear i know and love just simply snaps onto the pack. Its genius!
Great review! Before Mystery Ranch there was Dana Design. The same designer at Mystery Ranch. I have a Dana Design Astral Plane that I bought in Alaska around 1990 for Backpacking and Mountaineering.30 years old and still going strong. No issues what so ever. I even purchased a used one for my son in Bishop Ca. ten years ago . No issues there either. I paid $320 in 1990 which was a lot of money back then. $400 is a bargain. Spend the money and enjoy your backpack for a lifetime.
Nice review, I got this same pack a year ago (in black) and absolutely love it. It's a hybrid pack that is mostly for backpacking but also can be used for hunting and load hauling. The price has jumped u to $450 this year. Also, the PALS webbing on the waist belt is fantastic. I have my bear spray, gun holster and the Mystery Ranch tech holster for my phone.
@@dannymcclung1782 Really? Pretty straight forward with more than enough room for just 3 days. It's 65L with the hood, which doubles as a daypack away from basecamp 👍🏻. You literally could use this pack as an expedition or thu-hike.
Great review! Thanks for sharing. Eric, since you have experience with both the Terraframe 65 and the Bridger 65, would you consider making a VS./Comparison video on these two backpacks, sharing your opinions on them? Along the lines of, what pack would be better suited for than the other sort of theme. Pros and cons comparatively and such. Thank you for your continued efforts of keeping us informed.
Please do a full review of the new Bridger packs from Mystery Ranch! I saw you show it off in a video with Dan Becker but considering how little info is out for it right now it would be nice to have a full review (especially since I'm interested in getting it when it's released).
Thank you for the in depth review! I've been on the fence about going with the Terraframe or Baltoro 65(thanks for that in depth review as well). This video made my mind up, Terraframe 65 it is! The overload feature is a huge plus and worth the extra weight for the ability to carry extra weight when need. Thanks for the great content!
Consider the 50! With the overload feature you get practically infinite carrying capacity as well...and it also forces you to pack smarter which is always a plus : D
@@positronikiss I've looked at the 50 as well, just wish it had more pockets for organization. I might have to give it more consideration. Mystery Ranch sells a 40 liter dry bag, pair that with the 50 and it would be a great combo.
Just bought the Terraframe 65 backpack. Was having a hard time adjusting the girth length on the backpack but when you showed me on your video that piece of plastic, a lightbulb went off in my head and made it really easy. Great video haven’t had a chance to try out the backpack yet but it looks really good even though I don’t carry heavy loads. I bought it because of comfort that was my main reason.
I love buying mystery ranch. I love their gear and their worth every single penny. Beginner or advance if u have a few extra bucks don't pass it up. Mystery ranch Terra frame may weigh 5lbs but it carries like a Cadillac escalade. The weight doesn't matter so much..it's how the pack carries the weight. An ultralight light thin frame pack usually will carry awful and give u no room to go heavier if needed. But a pack like this u can go light medium heavy whatever. It'll carry it properly and so smooth. Debunk the ultralight movement.
I totally agree! I'm going to be getting a MR pack as soon as I can afford it! I got to try on the Bridger 55 in store and it was like wearing a cloud! Absolutely amazing! I currently have a Deuter aircontact lite, which is a good pack but the hip belt bruises my hips something nasty every time I use it. I also tried out a hyperlite mountain gear pack and it was super uncomfortable. The hip belt didn't cinch down well enough, so a lot of weight was on my shoulders, and it doesn't have load lifters. I had about 35-40 pounds of gear in it though because I needed cold weather gear and I had to carry 5 liters of water, which is probably more stuff than it is designed to hold comfortably. I can see how it would be okay with 10-15 pounds but I'm not an ultra lighter.
I've always been a huge fan of the Mystery Ranch packs, they're consistently some of the best backpacks I've found. That's probably part of why I own 7 different MR packs. I want a pack that I can trust will hold up to whatever I can throw at it, and MR knocks that out of the park.
I owned a Dana Design Terraplane X 15+ years ago. That was an amazing pack. The newer version with improvements looks like a winner in comfort, features and modulability with the external frame.
Thanks Eric... 4 weeks ago start to search a backpack, my first option was a Maxpedition Gryfalcon, see more videos and reviews change to Fjallraven Kajka 65, then more videos and reviews, started liking Osprey Atmos or Aether both 65.... then I see your videos in your channel (never hear about MR) and like first the new MR Bridger 65 but finally decide for a MR Terraframe 65. What I see and understand in many reviews, it is a product tested by backpackers for a long time, more robust and the extra weight that can carry with the OVERLOAD® feature make me decide for this amazing backpack. I'm not a ultralight backpacker and I have a medical condition that need to send to my hips all the weight that I can. Thanks for the videos
I'm considering a TerraFrame 65 and a Bridger 65. The Bridger does feel more comfortable on my shoulders. But, I'm concerned about the quality of the Bridger fabric material and zippers as compared with the fabric thickness and robust zippers of the TerraFrame. What are your thoughts on this?
I absolutely love this pack! The weight and the price you pay are matched by comfort and versatility. It also just happens to be the best looking bag on the market.
Dana Gleason is a backpack god! I own over 20 MR pieces on some still have the tags because I have yet to get to use them. I am addicted to buying MR products.
Thanks for the review! I got this pack a few days ago. It turned out to be too small for my (vagabonding) needs. So, I'm going to send it back. I formerly had an, old Dana Design Astralplane 70L pack, I just can't find my hipbelt. It has 7,000 cu. Inches. This one has like 5,000 I believe? So, I just ordered a 125L Norwegian pack. It's expensive but I'm hoping it will carry all my gear in a smooth, easy fashion without feeling weighed down and tired. It has 7,200 cu. inches. We'll see....
im looking into a bigger backpack for winter camping and taking my dog backpacking and i’ve been really thinking this is what i’ll get. im pretty excited i think i’ll go to rei today
My only goal in buy ing is bag is I only want my own strength and conditioning being the factor in my performance, not my bag, I want my bag to allow me to perform my trips with comfort, the rest is up to me and my conditioning. my last trip was brutal, I packed heavy since water was not around on the trail, and my pack was killing me everywhere,
Awesome backpacks. I bought the Sphinx 60 as my first backpack n took it on my first backpacking trip. Carried 40lbs. It felt great. I bought a Ravine 50 also. I'm happy with both but may get another with overload feature.
@@BackpackingTV I had an original Dana design astral plane from 1998.. and it wasn’t until I started watching your channel that I realized when I saw your pack they look so similar and then you did a story about Mystery Ranch. It all clicked and I went out and bought that Terra frame first and then for winter packing a carry the bigger 80 L Terraplane.. I really love watching your channel and the content you provide. I have learned so much and have gotten great information from you. Thank you so much for all of the information you share. Stay safe and happy backpacking!! Greg
I just bought this backpack around $360 mainly going to use it for future moving out and Bug out backpack lol xD I really like the versatility and ruggedness. I've never done backpacking in my life but it sounds worth it just by that though.
@@BackpackingTV REI carries the T'Frame line, and puts them on sale once/year. REI also has a 20% Spring sale, which is a great time to score big ticket swag you know you'd pay full MSRP for anyway! :D
Thank you for the helpful review. Is there a reason the pack in the review is a different color than the pack you reference in your montage of past hikes? Which pack would you choose - this or the new Bridger if you had to choose one? And why please if you can comment?
I've had two models of this pack, the 65 liter version and the 80L version. They're different colors. If you had to choose between this and the Bridger, I'd lean towards Bridger. The reason is that the Terraframe is overkill for most backpackers. I think you can get a slightly lighter and simpler backpack that is still great at carrying heavy loads. The Bridger is the most comfortable backpack I've ever used.
Can't decide between the Terraframe or the Bridger 65L. Would you say this is as comfortable as the Bridger? So when you add heavy items into that area between the frame and the backpack, obviously it would shift the weight of the backpack further back, which would throw off the center of gravity, correct? I guess there's no ideal way to deal with more weight, it's just physics.
Another informative video ... Thanks Any chance you'll be doing a review of the Mystery Ranch Bridger 55/65 backpack in the near future? ... I remember you using it on the trip you did with Dan Becker and I now see it's available on the Mystery Ranch website ... Thanks in advance ...
Stuck on making a decision between this and the Bridger 65. This will be my first backpack purchase. Just bought all the gear for myself and my daughter. So our stuff will be a little on the heavy side. But wondering if the Bridger will carry just fine with maybe some added comfort over the Terraplane…
Hey! Sorry for my delay. If you're going for your first backpack, I'd go for the Bridger. The Terraframe is awesome, but it's an overkill backpack for most backpackers out there. The Bridger carries loads comfortably up to around 50 lbs. And as a new backpacker, you really shouldn't be carrying more than 50 lbs anyway.
@@BackpackingTV no worries! Awesome! I ended up buying the Bridger in the mean time! Love it so far! Thank you for all the videos and info you provide!!!
Great review! If you liked this pack, you should have a look at Seek Outside’s packs! I recommend the Kenai 5400. Their new fabrics are really interesting.
Did Mystery Ranch used to be Dana Designs? That pack looks very similar to a Dana pack I bought in the late 90's. It was a great pack and the polyurethane lining finally gave out on me a couple years ago.
@@robertw.7698, no, I don't. Sorry! I actually went through the process of removing the tacky, stinky polyurethane and then gave the pack to a buddy who was just getting into backpacking.
Ice video.. as alleays. I have this or the new bridger 65L on my wishlist. They look good both. Do you have any thoughts about the two? I know you did a review on the smaller one and I loved it. I am planning to go Kungsleden next year though (about 300-400km) and I think the smaller is to little. I also have my military once (snigeldesign 90L and 110L) but they are on the heavy side and I am not sure I need all that space when I am not working :) they are awesome backpacks though.. love them.
Why are you the only one promoting this bag? Looks great but need more reassurance! The weight scares me a bit over bags that are 1-2 lbs less (not that I'm ultralight - usually 30lbs). Anyone feel this is worth it!? Thanks
(6:38 into video) Vertically sliding shoulder harness does not change torso length because top of shoulder strap contact point with pack does not change as harness is pulled vertically up. This design just makes shoulder strap longer. Solution is to use load lifters to pull harness closer to back. More load lifter tension increases pressure making skin over collarbones sore on people with visible collarbone under skin. I own Osprey Xenith 88 with same misleading torso adjustment design on shoulder harness. Fortunately Xenith 88 shortest torso length is my size so pack fits me well. Took me weeks to determine why I noticed no change moving harness farther from hip belt. Better to have harness that slides vertically moving the top of shoulder strap contact point with pack closer or farther away from bottom of hip belt changing pack torso length. Second undisclosed good design feature on Osprey Xenith 88 is that vertical frame is flexible and bends to act as vertical shock absorber reducing impact from each heel strike. Each heel strike during walking causes vertical compression through joints of ankle-knee-hip-discs between vertebrae from low back to top of shoulder trapezius muscle that holds up shoulders and pack shoulder straps.
For $400 you get the backers version of the Ninja Vegamatic do everything. The detachable fold down frame is hyped into a desirable feature. I don't know many that will pack out a quarter of an elk squeezed in their $400 pack. The KISS principle is a known useful engineering principle to keep the team on track to do the job at hand well. Just because you can drop it from 3000 feet out a plane does not make it a good tool to mark the landing point. Your milage may vary.
MY GOOD SIR! Thx again for the lovely video, im a huge Mystery Ranch fan, I got the Terraframe 50 and its just my favourite backpack. I know itll never fail me! I know its MADE for the modafriggen PURPOSE! I know you have a 50 too! Why do you preffer the 65 over the 50 or do you preffer the 50 over the 65 under different circumstances? ( eg shorter trips, etc ) : D thx again!
Bought it and it's going back. The thing I thought I'd love proved not to work for me...the yoke (running vest strap)...initially it starts with proper cushioning but soon becomes much thinner, so if you thought of using water bottle or bear spray in its shoulder strap pocket, think again. While doable, not comfy at all. On top of that (I know this is going to be highly subjective) the outside shoulder strap digs into my shoulders. Tried adjusting the torso length, but didn't help.
Eric do you find that the Bridger you tested last year solves your complaints about breathability? I just got a Bridger in for testing myself, but the weather is so cold here right now that it's hard to judge how I'd feel in hot weather.
I just ordered the terraframe 65L, but I was strongly considering the Bridger. The bridger was sold out and the terraframe was on sale, and given the fact that I like hunting as well as backpacking, the terraframe seemed like the best choice for me. I would love to see a comparison of the two
Whats your favourite out of this pack and the bridger 65? Heavy duty and heavy load rating for both please? Whats the heaviest you have carries with these packs? I've seen on your channel that you do carry heavy loads please :)
My favorite for general backpacking is the Bridger. But the Terraframe can really handle heavier loads, like 50+ pounds. Heaviest I've gone is two packrafting trips, probably around 55 pounds with rafts, PFD's, paddles, and camera gear. The Terraframe handled it like a champ.
I also have this backpack. It serves me well. I just have never found out how to put to use the single daisy chain down the front between the two pockets. No video ever show it employed. I do not see you use it either.
I actually just used that feature on my last trip. I was packrafting and it was the perfect place to secure my wet water shoes and some other webbing and carabiners needed for our expedition.
Have a couple of MR packs. Have an issue on the Yoke- far from wide enough that it covers my shoulderblades, and just wide enough that it diggs into them.. Find myself shifting into bad posture just to get the shoulderblades out enough not to get chafing. Which isn't optimal for thing like breathing or spine.
Thanks a bunch for your reviews, they're among the best on YT! In regard to this particular clip, something leaves me doubting at 4:01... I don't understand the mechanism you're showing, and when not knowing anything about that bag, all I can see is that the tent would break something (if not your back around the lumbar region). It _looks_ utterly odd, as the half-demonstration is insufficient to say like _"Oh ok that's how it goes"_ (Secure the tent completely, and then wear the backpack so that we could have a clear idea about that unique and *important* feature). Anyways, thanks again.
Hey! Thanks for the comment. It's Mystery Ranch's overload feature. You can put all sorts of gear here (I think it was designed with hunters in mind, who need to haul a bunch of meat out of the field). This doesn't affect your lumbar, as gear sits in between the frame of the pack and the bag. It feels the same to your back. It is kind of odd to demonstrate. Sorry it didn't quite explain it for you. I really like the feature when I need to carry really heavy loads, such as when I go packrafting and I haul a boat, paddles, a PFD, and extra gear.
It’s pretty good in light rain, but it’s not waterproof on its own. In wet conditions I’d pair it with a rain cover or keep your gear in dry sacks inside.
This company is great but thanks to their ridiculous gov contracts their prices are insane. Once they get off the gov checks, they might bring their prices down to fit the market.
with all of the hiking videos we see on youtube with gear, im sorry but i just cant see spending a car payment on a backpack or sleeping bag or a mortgage payment on a tent, our $70 backpacks, sleeping bags and tents work just fine! how about videos on reg gear that everyone could afford!
It annoys the crap out of me that he says the word "backpack" over and over and over and over again. It's a pack. If he says "this backpack" one more time........"how does the stability stack up on THIS BACKPACK? Well, for THIS BACKPACK, unlike other BACKPACKS it has a lot of stability, which makes THIS BACKPACK unique in the world of BACKPACKS. That's one reason THIS BACKPACK is such a special BACKPACK".....
Talks about carrying backpack between frame and pack, but in montage, he’s carrying it on bottom of pack. For the above average backpacker, this pack is a big Joke! Ridiculously expensive, unnecessary overhyped frame, and costs a fortune. Pretty video, though.
"Above average backpacker..." look if you are intimidated by this pack then just don't use it. I use it and love it. However, I am a well above average outdoorsman, hunter, fisher and advanced backpacker.
Hey Mark! I appreciate your opinion! No worries if it's not for you. Sometimes I carry the tent on the outside and sometimes I don't. It's a fun, useful feature for when my bag is getting heavy or I've got a particularly large load to carry.
My hunting pack is a sawtooth 45 from MR. It uses this frame system and man, it’s stout. Last fall I harvested a white tail doe, and packed it out after after a quick field dress. Dressed weight of the deer was about 130 lbs. Add to that rifle, a couple of layers, and water, and it was loaded (yeah, I know, I should have quartered, dumb dumb moment on my part). The point is, this frame system carries a load extremely well!
I have the terraframe 80 and i NEVER regretted it for a second. These packs are phenomenal for so many reasons.
Glad to hear it! Been my go to for a couple years now.
Now that you have experience with the Terraframe 50, Terraframe 65 and Bridger 65. I’m curious what you would use each pack for and if you have a go-to favorite out of those three packs. I’m sold on Mystery Ranch. Solid build…an extra two pounds but I think the durability is worth it if you’re playing around in rocky areas.
I have a MR ravine 50. It is the heaviest and most comfortable backpack I own. In my opinion the ultimate goal is not so much light weight as it is comfort.
Thanks again Eric for promoting Mystery Ranch! I’ve told you before that you are the reason why I bought one…Sphinx 60. I’ve had it for almost 2 years and it is Amazing! I used it on a 6 day trip in the high Rockies and it was perfect! It was stuffed to the gills, but absolutely perfect! I feel I can take this pack anywhere on any trip and it will hold all the gear I need for a comfortable trip! Thanks again!
Your always informative and yeah 5 pounds is nothing if the load can be balanced properly you’ll be surprised what you can carry on your back. Thanks my man and quest on. Never get enough of your videos.
SEMPER FI
I appreciate that! A good carry is underrated!
I have the Terraframe 50 Tri-Zip for the load hauling capability and if I'm doing a cold weather overnighter or a family trip where I need to carry extra gear. Their external frame is amazing, and can carry some serious weight; far more than I'd ever want to.
This video was the deciding factor for me. Ive been using a 36 hour assault pack for the last 6 years in the CA mountains, and it works, but man does it wear out my back, and after 40 pounds, it becomes REALLY unweildy
To also play umbridge, the buckles, snaps, and straps are all standard 1 inch, which means all of th3 tactical gear i know and love just simply snaps onto the pack. Its genius!
Great review! Before Mystery Ranch there was Dana Design. The same designer at Mystery Ranch. I have a Dana Design Astral Plane that I bought in Alaska around 1990 for Backpacking and Mountaineering.30 years old and still going strong. No issues what so ever. I even purchased a used one for my son in Bishop Ca. ten years ago . No issues there either. I paid $320 in 1990 which was a lot of money back then. $400 is a bargain. Spend the money and enjoy your backpack for a lifetime.
Nice review, I got this same pack a year ago (in black) and absolutely love it. It's a hybrid pack that is mostly for backpacking but also can be used for hunting and load hauling. The price has jumped u to $450 this year. Also, the PALS webbing on the waist belt is fantastic. I have my bear spray, gun holster and the Mystery Ranch tech holster for my phone.
Nice! Yeah this pack is very versatile. Sad to see the price jump, but I think that has more to do with supply chain stuff? Anyway, glad you dig it!
I have one, too. Still trying to figure out the best way to load it out for a 3 day trip.
@@dannymcclung1782 Really? Pretty straight forward with more than enough room for just 3 days. It's 65L with the hood, which doubles as a daypack away from basecamp 👍🏻. You literally could use this pack as an expedition or thu-hike.
@@ZachBrimhall I n Ed to learn more about how and what to pack.
@@dannymcclung1782 There are a lot of videos on this channel on what and how to pack. Go back through them and you'll find some great how-to's.
I'd really like to see a review on the new Mystery Ranch Bridger 55
Coming soon!
Great review! Thanks for sharing. Eric, since you have experience with both the Terraframe 65 and the Bridger 65, would you consider making a VS./Comparison video on these two backpacks, sharing your opinions on them? Along the lines of, what pack would be better suited for than the other sort of theme. Pros and cons comparatively and such. Thank you for your continued efforts of keeping us informed.
Please do a full review of the new Bridger packs from Mystery Ranch! I saw you show it off in a video with Dan Becker but considering how little info is out for it right now it would be nice to have a full review (especially since I'm interested in getting it when it's released).
Thank you for the in depth review!
I've been on the fence about going with the Terraframe or Baltoro 65(thanks for that in depth review as well).
This video made my mind up, Terraframe 65 it is!
The overload feature is a huge plus and worth the extra weight for the ability to carry extra weight when need.
Thanks for the great content!
Consider the 50! With the overload feature you get practically infinite carrying capacity as well...and it also forces you to pack smarter which is always a plus : D
@@positronikiss I've looked at the 50 as well, just wish it had more pockets for organization. I might have to give it more consideration. Mystery Ranch sells a 40 liter dry bag, pair that with the 50 and it would be a great combo.
@@shawnbaker6569 thx so much def looking into the bag
I own both, but I mean 9 other packs too I love to mix it up
Just bought the Terraframe 65 backpack. Was having a hard time adjusting the girth length on the backpack but when you showed me on your video that piece of plastic, a lightbulb went off in my head and made it really easy. Great video haven’t had a chance to try out the backpack yet but it looks really good even though I don’t carry heavy loads. I bought it because of comfort that was my main reason.
I love buying mystery ranch. I love their gear and their worth every single penny. Beginner or advance if u have a few extra bucks don't pass it up. Mystery ranch Terra frame may weigh 5lbs but it carries like a Cadillac escalade. The weight doesn't matter so much..it's how the pack carries the weight. An ultralight light thin frame pack usually will carry awful and give u no room to go heavier if needed. But a pack like this u can go light medium heavy whatever. It'll carry it properly and so smooth. Debunk the ultralight movement.
I totally agree! I'm going to be getting a MR pack as soon as I can afford it! I got to try on the Bridger 55 in store and it was like wearing a cloud! Absolutely amazing!
I currently have a Deuter aircontact lite, which is a good pack but the hip belt bruises my hips something nasty every time I use it.
I also tried out a hyperlite mountain gear pack and it was super uncomfortable. The hip belt didn't cinch down well enough, so a lot of weight was on my shoulders, and it doesn't have load lifters. I had about 35-40 pounds of gear in it though because I needed cold weather gear and I had to carry 5 liters of water, which is probably more stuff than it is designed to hold comfortably. I can see how it would be okay with 10-15 pounds but I'm not an ultra lighter.
my all time favorite pack. used back in the day when known as dana designs. it was a beast of a pack that could handle loads of 50+ with ease.
*Beast packs™
I agree, I have a Astralplane (2002), but no hipbelt. So, I bought one of these.
Great job as usual, Thanks for your input. I'm waiting of my Bridger 65L to come in. I was considering getting the in the mean time.
I've always been a huge fan of the Mystery Ranch packs, they're consistently some of the best backpacks I've found. That's probably part of why I own 7 different MR packs. I want a pack that I can trust will hold up to whatever I can throw at it, and MR knocks that out of the park.
I would love to see a comparison video between the teraframe 65 and the bridger 65. I think many of your viewers would also enjoy that. Thank you
I owned a Dana Design Terraplane X 15+ years ago. That was an amazing pack. The newer version with improvements looks like a winner in comfort, features and modulability with the external frame.
Thanks Eric... 4 weeks ago start to search a backpack, my first option was a Maxpedition Gryfalcon, see more videos and reviews change to Fjallraven Kajka 65, then more videos and reviews, started liking Osprey Atmos or Aether both 65.... then I see your videos in your channel (never hear about MR) and like first the new MR Bridger 65 but finally decide for a MR Terraframe 65.
What I see and understand in many reviews, it is a product tested by backpackers for a long time, more robust and the extra weight that can carry with the OVERLOAD® feature make me decide for this amazing backpack.
I'm not a ultralight backpacker and I have a medical condition that need to send to my hips all the weight that I can.
Thanks for the videos
Vindication!!! Bought this pack a few months ago in the exact same colorway 😆
I'm considering a TerraFrame 65 and a Bridger 65. The Bridger does feel more comfortable on my shoulders. But, I'm concerned about the quality of the Bridger fabric material and zippers as compared with the fabric thickness and robust zippers of the TerraFrame.
What are your thoughts on this?
I absolutely love this pack! The weight and the price you pay are matched by comfort and versatility. It also just happens to be the best looking bag on the market.
Just bought the tri zip one on sale for 250 brand new, very excited to take it out after watching this
Dana Gleason is a backpack god! I own over 20 MR pieces on some still have the tags because I have yet to get to use them. I am addicted to buying MR products.
Thanks for the review! I got this pack a few days ago. It turned out to be too small for my (vagabonding) needs. So, I'm going to send it back. I formerly had an, old Dana Design Astralplane 70L pack, I just can't find my hipbelt. It has 7,000 cu. Inches. This one has like 5,000 I believe? So, I just ordered a 125L Norwegian pack. It's expensive but I'm hoping it will carry all my gear in a smooth, easy fashion without feeling weighed down and tired. It has 7,200 cu. inches. We'll see....
im looking into a bigger backpack for winter camping and taking my dog backpacking and i’ve been really thinking this is what i’ll get. im pretty excited i think i’ll go to rei today
My only goal in buy ing is bag is I only want my own strength and conditioning being the factor in my performance, not my bag, I want my bag to allow me to perform my trips with comfort, the rest is up to me and my conditioning. my last trip was brutal, I packed heavy since water was not around on the trail, and my pack was killing me everywhere,
mystery ranch coming in strong for your average backpacker
yeah buddy!
F*X UL CAMP, ROBUST AND INDESTRUCTIBLE IS WHERE ITS AT IN THE MAJESTIC OUTDOORS! > D
I still use my 1996 Dana Design Terraplane X for my overnights. I’m considering a T100 for my next one.
Awesome backpacks. I bought the Sphinx 60 as my first backpack n took it on my first backpacking trip. Carried 40lbs. It felt great. I bought a Ravine 50 also. I'm happy with both but may get another with overload feature.
Yeah buddy! You'll have the full arsenal in no time!
I love my TerraFrame I also have the 82 liter Terraplane.
Nice! The classic and the update! Excellent choices.
@@BackpackingTV I had an original Dana design astral plane from 1998.. and it wasn’t until I started watching your channel that I realized when I saw your pack they look so similar and then you did a story about Mystery Ranch. It all clicked and I went out and bought that Terra frame first and then for winter packing a carry the bigger 80 L Terraplane.. I really love watching your channel and the content you provide. I have learned so much and have gotten great information from you. Thank you so much for all of the information you share.
Stay safe and happy backpacking!!
Greg
I just bought this backpack around $360 mainly going to use it for future moving out and Bug out backpack lol xD I really like the versatility and ruggedness. I've never done backpacking in my life but it sounds worth it just by that though.
That's a great score for $360! You'll love it!
@@BackpackingTV REI carries the T'Frame line, and puts them on sale once/year. REI also has a 20% Spring sale, which is a great time to score big ticket swag you know you'd pay full MSRP for anyway! :D
You move the 5lb tent closer to your back but shift the majority of the backpack weight further away from your back ???
Thank you for the helpful review. Is there a reason the pack in the review is a different color than the pack you reference in your montage of past hikes? Which pack would you choose - this or the new Bridger if you had to choose one? And why please if you can comment?
I've had two models of this pack, the 65 liter version and the 80L version. They're different colors. If you had to choose between this and the Bridger, I'd lean towards Bridger. The reason is that the Terraframe is overkill for most backpackers. I think you can get a slightly lighter and simpler backpack that is still great at carrying heavy loads. The Bridger is the most comfortable backpack I've ever used.
Would be curious to see if the overload feature could hold a Frontiersman Bear Can stored vertically.
Have you tried folding the tent and placing it in the overload instead of rolled up?
Can't decide between the Terraframe or the Bridger 65L. Would you say this is as comfortable as the Bridger? So when you add heavy items into that area between the frame and the backpack, obviously it would shift the weight of the backpack further back, which would throw off the center of gravity, correct? I guess there's no ideal way to deal with more weight, it's just physics.
Another informative video ... Thanks
Any chance you'll be doing a review of the Mystery Ranch Bridger 55/65 backpack in the near future? ... I remember you using it on the trip you did with Dan Becker and I now see it's available on the Mystery Ranch website ... Thanks in advance ...
Awesome Awesome pack!! I love the beef bring on the heavy duty. Please and thankyou.
They added more buckles in the last revision. Makes it more compatible with other bags
Interesting. More compatible with other MR bags? Or other bags in general?
Stuck on making a decision between this and the Bridger 65. This will be my first backpack purchase. Just bought all the gear for myself and my daughter. So our stuff will be a little on the heavy side. But wondering if the Bridger will carry just fine with maybe some added comfort over the Terraplane…
Hey! Sorry for my delay. If you're going for your first backpack, I'd go for the Bridger. The Terraframe is awesome, but it's an overkill backpack for most backpackers out there. The Bridger carries loads comfortably up to around 50 lbs. And as a new backpacker, you really shouldn't be carrying more than 50 lbs anyway.
@@BackpackingTV no worries! Awesome! I ended up buying the Bridger in the mean time! Love it so far! Thank you for all the videos and info you provide!!!
Great review! If you liked this pack, you should have a look at Seek Outside’s packs! I recommend the Kenai 5400. Their new fabrics are really interesting.
I'm not familiar with those. I'll check em out!
Did Mystery Ranch used to be Dana Designs? That pack looks very similar to a Dana pack I bought in the late 90's. It was a great pack and the polyurethane lining finally gave out on me a couple years ago.
I'm not sure all the ins and outs, but yes! I believe Dana is still heavily involved in Mystery Ranch.
Hey 👋 do you have the hipbelt to that expired pack?
@@robertw.7698, no, I don't. Sorry! I actually went through the process of removing the tacky, stinky polyurethane and then gave the pack to a buddy who was just getting into backpacking.
What are your thoughts on the Mystery Ranch Bridger 65 Vs. the Terraframe 65. which would you buy and why
Ice video.. as alleays. I have this or the new bridger 65L on my wishlist. They look good both. Do you have any thoughts about the two? I know you did a review on the smaller one and I loved it. I am planning to go Kungsleden next year though (about 300-400km) and I think the smaller is to little. I also have my military once (snigeldesign 90L and 110L) but they are on the heavy side and I am not sure I need all that space when I am not working :) they are awesome backpacks though.. love them.
Being used to an ALICE pack, this thing is incredible.
Nice review, Have you tried the new bridger 65? Seems to be the upgraded version of this one
I wished you would review the Granite Gear Blaze 60
Thanks for the content
Also. What is your take on the 3 zip 50. I think it has better side pouches. Im trying to buy either the 3 zip 50 or 65.
2 years ago, $400, today $500. :'( ... still worth it. I upgraded from a great Osprey to this.
Why are you the only one promoting this bag? Looks great but need more reassurance! The weight scares me a bit over bags that are 1-2 lbs less (not that I'm ultralight - usually 30lbs). Anyone feel this is worth it!? Thanks
Would you take this over the Bridger 65 on a PCT thru?
(6:38 into video) Vertically sliding shoulder harness does not change torso length because top of shoulder strap contact point with pack does not change as harness is pulled vertically up. This design just makes shoulder strap longer. Solution is to use load lifters to pull harness closer to back. More load lifter tension increases pressure making skin over collarbones sore on people with visible collarbone under skin.
I own Osprey Xenith 88 with same misleading torso adjustment design on shoulder harness. Fortunately Xenith 88 shortest torso length is my size so pack fits me well. Took me weeks to determine why I noticed no change moving harness farther from hip belt.
Better to have harness that slides vertically moving the top of shoulder strap contact point with pack closer or farther away from bottom of hip belt changing pack torso length.
Second undisclosed good design feature on Osprey Xenith 88 is that vertical frame is flexible and bends to act as vertical shock absorber reducing impact from each heel strike. Each heel strike during walking causes vertical compression through joints of ankle-knee-hip-discs between vertebrae from low back to top of shoulder trapezius muscle that holds up shoulders and pack shoulder straps.
Do the small side pouches ever result in water bottle falling out??
For $400 you get the backers version of the Ninja Vegamatic do everything. The detachable fold down frame is hyped into a desirable feature. I don't know many that will pack out a quarter of an elk squeezed in their $400 pack. The KISS principle is a known useful engineering principle to keep the team on track to do the job at hand well. Just because you can drop it from 3000 feet out a plane does not make it a good tool to mark the landing point. Your milage may vary.
How did you like that Mystery Ranch Bridger you were using?
Could you do a review of the kuiu lt pack?
MY GOOD SIR! Thx again for the lovely video, im a huge Mystery Ranch fan, I got the Terraframe 50 and its just my favourite backpack. I know itll never fail me! I know its MADE for the modafriggen PURPOSE! I know you have a 50 too! Why do you preffer the 65 over the 50 or do you preffer the 50 over the 65 under different circumstances? ( eg shorter trips, etc )
: D thx again!
Bought it and it's going back. The thing I thought I'd love proved not to work for me...the yoke (running vest strap)...initially it starts with proper cushioning but soon becomes much thinner, so if you thought of using water bottle or bear spray in its shoulder strap pocket, think again. While doable, not comfy at all. On top of that (I know this is going to be highly subjective) the outside shoulder strap digs into my shoulders. Tried adjusting the torso length, but didn't help.
Eric do you find that the Bridger you tested last year solves your complaints about breathability?
I just got a Bridger in for testing myself, but the weather is so cold here right now that it's hard to judge how I'd feel in hot weather.
I just ordered the terraframe 65L, but I was strongly considering the Bridger. The bridger was sold out and the terraframe was on sale, and given the fact that I like hunting as well as backpacking, the terraframe seemed like the best choice for me. I would love to see a comparison of the two
Whats your favourite out of this pack and the bridger 65?
Heavy duty and heavy load rating for both please?
Whats the heaviest you have carries with these packs?
I've seen on your channel that you do carry heavy loads please :)
My favorite for general backpacking is the Bridger. But the Terraframe can really handle heavier loads, like 50+ pounds. Heaviest I've gone is two packrafting trips, probably around 55 pounds with rafts, PFD's, paddles, and camera gear. The Terraframe handled it like a champ.
@BackpackingTV thank you so much for your reply :).
Do you think the bridger wouldn't handle loads like that please?
This bad boy is $449 at REI. I did find it at other online retailers for $400
What about Mystery Ranch directly? Not sure how the pricing has fluctuated in the last year.
They're on sale for $336 at a few places right now.
I also have this backpack. It serves me well. I just have never found out how to put to use the single daisy chain down the front between the two pockets. No video ever show it employed. I do not see you use it either.
I actually just used that feature on my last trip. I was packrafting and it was the perfect place to secure my wet water shoes and some other webbing and carabiners needed for our expedition.
Have you tried a kuiu pack?
Have a couple of MR packs. Have an issue on the Yoke- far from wide enough that it covers my shoulderblades, and just wide enough that it diggs into them.. Find myself shifting into bad posture just to get the shoulderblades out enough not to get chafing. Which isn't optimal for thing like breathing or spine.
Thanks a bunch for your reviews, they're among the best on YT! In regard to this particular clip, something leaves me doubting at 4:01... I don't understand the mechanism you're showing, and when not knowing anything about that bag, all I can see is that the tent would break something (if not your back around the lumbar region). It _looks_ utterly odd, as the half-demonstration is insufficient to say like _"Oh ok that's how it goes"_ (Secure the tent completely, and then wear the backpack so that we could have a clear idea about that unique and *important* feature). Anyways, thanks again.
Hey! Thanks for the comment. It's Mystery Ranch's overload feature. You can put all sorts of gear here (I think it was designed with hunters in mind, who need to haul a bunch of meat out of the field). This doesn't affect your lumbar, as gear sits in between the frame of the pack and the bag. It feels the same to your back. It is kind of odd to demonstrate. Sorry it didn't quite explain it for you. I really like the feature when I need to carry really heavy loads, such as when I go packrafting and I haul a boat, paddles, a PFD, and extra gear.
@@BackpackingTV thanks for the clarification!
I think after watching this I’ll get this size over the 50
Have you checked out Savotta Jääkäri packs?
I have not! They look pretty rad though!
How does it fair in the rain?
It’s pretty good in light rain, but it’s not waterproof on its own. In wet conditions I’d pair it with a rain cover or keep your gear in dry sacks inside.
@@BackpackingTV Thank you.
This company is great but thanks to their ridiculous gov contracts their prices are insane. Once they get off the gov checks, they might bring their prices down to fit the market.
with all of the hiking videos we see on youtube with gear, im sorry but i just cant see spending a car payment on a backpack or sleeping bag or a mortgage payment on a tent, our $70 backpacks, sleeping bags and tents work just fine! how about videos on reg gear that everyone could afford!
Stop saying backpack
It annoys the crap out of me that he says the word "backpack" over and over and over and over again. It's a pack. If he says "this backpack" one more time........"how does the stability stack up on THIS BACKPACK? Well, for THIS BACKPACK, unlike other BACKPACKS it has a lot of stability, which makes THIS BACKPACK unique in the world of BACKPACKS. That's one reason THIS BACKPACK is such a special BACKPACK".....
lol over 400 dollars? Stop way too much money. It's just a backpack.
Talks about carrying backpack between frame and pack, but in montage, he’s carrying it on bottom of pack.
For the above average backpacker, this pack is a big Joke! Ridiculously expensive, unnecessary overhyped frame, and costs a fortune.
Pretty video, though.
"Above average backpacker..." look if you are intimidated by this pack then just don't use it. I use it and love it. However, I am a well above average outdoorsman, hunter, fisher and advanced backpacker.
@@ZachBrimhall You keep being the advanced backpacker that you are, Bubba.
Hey Mark! I appreciate your opinion! No worries if it's not for you. Sometimes I carry the tent on the outside and sometimes I don't. It's a fun, useful feature for when my bag is getting heavy or I've got a particularly large load to carry.