The truth about 3D printing a lunar base with MOON DUST

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024

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  • @jerrysstories711
    @jerrysstories711 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Every good architecture channel finds, sooner or later, that their most-watched videos are the sci-fi ones. I'm not complaining though. I like the way your channel does some practical, some fantastical. Keeps it fresh.

  • @danielgregory5259
    @danielgregory5259 Před 6 měsíci +10

    I’d like to see how that Regolith+Sulfur reaction works chemically because it seems like a fantastic start on reducing the water use and energy demands for concrete, as you broadly pointed out. It would be wild if we could develop some kind of powder 3D printing or the ability to sinter entire structures.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před 6 měsíci +2

      And how will the material stand up to rain and wind? (JOKE!)

  • @averysanov7218
    @averysanov7218 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I always appreciate the effort you put into your videos to make sure everything is fact checked and always point out the disadvantages and limitations of current technology. I am very excited for innovation in space exploration and colonization and your videos make me optimistic for the future of humanity 🤩 Keep it up, Belinda!

  • @professordey
    @professordey Před 6 měsíci +4

    I generally agree most with those suggesting the use of prefabbing, 3d printing is extremely effective at producing extremely strong flat objects, but not so much vertical structures, arguably the best use for a 3d printer on the moon is using it to print many flat plates of regolith derived concrete to form the outside walls of a structure, making a biodome type structure from regolith panels, support bricks and beams would seem to be far more practical and allow for a lot of simple modularity and repairability in the designs that could then be partially buried beneath loose regolith to apply even pressures from above and protect from radiation. If we're not extensively tunnelling, that seems like one of the better middleground designs that'd be practical and pretty easy for a handful of astronauts or robots to assemble in situ.

  • @mrs.manrique7411
    @mrs.manrique7411 Před 6 měsíci +3

    From an AP News Article:
    “The walls should be 80 centimeters (about 2 1/2 feet) thick, they said. Any thicker and the dirt will emit its own secondary radiation, created when galactic cosmic rays interact with the lunar soil.”
    I wonder if two shells of beehive-like residences at only 40 centimeters thick, each, would provide satisfactory insulation with a void of air in-between the walls? The entirety of the walls/roof could also be 3D printed with the beehive shape-think of the interior ceilings in pyramids and how they hold themselves up by height. A doorway tunnel would have to be double walled as well.

  • @robbehr8806
    @robbehr8806 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Excellent video and good points! Neutron bombardment is a complicated issue, since many techniques involves atomic capture of the neutron, which results in a thermal output in the form of gamma rays. Overall protection is a complex and multi-layered challenge.

  • @fluffypinkpandas
    @fluffypinkpandas Před 6 měsíci +11

    I want to see Flint Stones-esque renderings where the engineers actually realized all interior furniture also has to be made of rock. Ikea furniture is EXPENSIVE on the moon. A flatscreen TV? steel chairs? what a luxury.

    • @BeachBumBoatsmith
      @BeachBumBoatsmith Před 4 měsíci

      This is serious and you're making jokes! We can't call them the Flintstones! The Regolith's! Fred Regolith and Barney Crater. Ok that stupid. Fred Lunastone? No no. I was just fine before I read your post. Now I have to rename the entire cast. Dang I'll be back

  • @counterstructure4908
    @counterstructure4908 Před 6 měsíci +5

    What happened to tunnel models? I think i saw like 10 years ago (likely longer) a proposal of landing a robot into a crater, so it's "underground" and you can drill directly horizontally. There are enough craters with the depth to get a few meters of roof (ceiling?), but don't need to bring a too extensive railroad system or such for material removal.

  • @davevann9795
    @davevann9795 Před 18 dny

    One thing I notice in all of those rendered video's, is that not much attention was given to heat dissipation. The machines and buildings they show, if they were on Earth, would be able to dissipate heat through convection and conduction. We take easy heat dissipation so much for granted that the space video creators usually assume heat transfer will as easy as on Earth. Mobile equipment on the Moon, could not use convection because of the vacuum, and couldn't easily use conduction into the Moon rock since they have to be mobile. That rotating mining robot would generate a lot of heat, but didn't show any way to dissipate that heat, or it is made to operate at 1000 degrees. The habitats would also need a heat dissipation system, such as sinking conductive heat dissipation hardware deep into the lunar rock, or have large radiative cooling panels.
    Maybe Moon villages would have a community cooling utility, just like we have community water, electricity, and sewer utilities on Earth. A large cooling facility near the lunar village would have pipes containing coolant that circulates to the lunar habitats, then carrying waste heat back to the community cooling facility. Or, depending on the situation, the hot pipes, could transfer the heat into the habitat during long lunar nights. Possibly carrying coolant to various cooling stations, just like we have fire hydrants or public drinking fountains. Then vehicles, or mobile robotic equipment, or even humans in EVA suits, could come to dump their stored waste heat, or robots could collect a little heat while equipment is not being used, to keep parts from freezing. Heating is easy, given an energy source. Cooling is hard.
    Insulation on the Moon and heat regulation are a new set of engineering and architectural problems. Whole new materials instead of fiberglass and polystyrene. Many new videos for Belinda to create.

  • @raymondpeters9186
    @raymondpeters9186 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Pumicecrete is by far the best building material on the planet Pumicecrete is a mixture of pumice cement and water mixed and poured into a set of reusable forms walls are poured from 12"to 24" thick pumicecrete is fireproof termite proof rust rot and mold proof non toxic and has a high R value and good sound attenuation solid poured walls means no critters can live in your walls Pumicecrete can be built for a fraction of the cost and time and pumice is one of the few building materials that can go directly from the mine to the job site ready to use without any additional possessing and zero waste
    Take care Ray

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is my favorite subject in existence - I won't be happy until we can construct volumes (in a vacuum) that we can pressurize and use - more printers! launch all the printers!

  • @Artisan_Mc
    @Artisan_Mc Před 6 měsíci +1

    Fascinating video. I'm excited to see the advancement of these technologies on Earth and the lunar surface.

  • @TheDaniel9
    @TheDaniel9 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'm curious if there's a genuine benefit to building habitats as opposed to digging them. wouldn't it be easier and faster to dig out a bunker, using the underlying rock as the structure of a moon or mars base? It seems less sci-fi, but it also seems much more viable to me.

  • @mk1st
    @mk1st Před 6 měsíci

    I'm very excited about this. When I first saw 2001 A Space Odyssey back in the 70s, plus all the actual moon landings, I was convinced that a base on the moon was just a few years ahead. Pretty sad that we let that momentum die. I think a downside here is that, sure, private companies are going to be mostly doing this, but it will result in a lot of fragmentation of the tech and will lose the robustness that would have resulted had NASA done the whole thing in-house.

  • @RemarkXer
    @RemarkXer Před 6 měsíci

    An easy way to tell if a lunar habitat proposal was not actually thought through is the presence of a starship so close that it would blow the whole settlement away on take off or landing.

  • @RogierYou
    @RogierYou Před 5 měsíci

    Great studio setup and presentation

  • @addisonlanier4226
    @addisonlanier4226 Před 6 měsíci

    Belinda, Love your frank & astute stance. When things bother me about reports and Ideas you're first to notice and nail them down. I'm working hard to send you a presentation on reconciling lack of design concerns about 3Dp and Ai. All said and postulated, Boring into the Moon is the direction to go in. Subterranean establishments can solve so many of the challenges ( like the little mention you gave on cryogenics that happen at sunset ha ha ha ) & teach and collaborate on what we need to try on Earth. Nuclear fission and fusion on the Moon can have their heyday. Let er rip ! But please, preserve the face of the Moon. Where ever these initial concepts point, they teach us. Looking the opposite way, I've found, changes all the equations that perturb you.

  • @EM-qz8wj
    @EM-qz8wj Před 5 měsíci

    Hi Belinda - I've seen several videos lately about people building homes out of grain bins! There are several listings on Airbnb for these types of buildings. It's very interesting and I'd love to hear your opinion. Maybe you could do a future video about them. Thanks.

  • @patrickmckowen2999
    @patrickmckowen2999 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video 👍

  • @tonyug113
    @tonyug113 Před 6 měsíci +2

    i understand mars with its nice rounded weathered regolith particles, but would wonder whether the sharp unweathered lunar regolith particles would limit the 3-d applications there. ie no where internal where dust from anything coud ever get at human lungs. -- no weather on the moon, so dust like lil obsidian knives.

  • @Emelineeeeeee
    @Emelineeeeeee Před 6 měsíci

    There’s probably a good reason why this isn’t viable, but it seems like tunneling under the lunar surface would make more sense than trying to build on top of it, at least for a starter habitat. Trying to build a structure on the surface thick enough to protect from all the radiation seems like it would pose a lot more challenges than just tunneling into the rock and having an underground habitat protected by the rock.

  • @valk7229
    @valk7229 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Is the sulfur also there, and what percentage is needed for the lunacrete.

  • @gordonstewart5774
    @gordonstewart5774 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Is SULPUR readily available on the moon?

  • @XeroShifter
    @XeroShifter Před 5 měsíci

    I'd love to see a video on uv window films. Hard to trust any figures being put out, and have to wonder if they're so great, why they're not more popular.

  • @sreed16
    @sreed16 Před 6 měsíci

    On the Moon of course you don't have high winds, flooding or any water erosion, you have lower gravity. On Earth all of those things determine what you can design and build.
    On the Moon I'd go with building underground or partially in the ground, and Moon stones carved into igloo-ish bricks and stacked together.. no mortar needed. The go with the 3D printed on a bigger scale. Need to get there and get places for people to live first.

  • @alx-vla4986
    @alx-vla4986 Před 6 měsíci

    Any habitat on the Moon needs to be pressurised to 1 atm in a vacuum environment; that is a lot of stress that 3D printing cannot manage.

  • @Redrally
    @Redrally Před 6 měsíci

    I feel like the developments are on the right track, but lunar bedrooms will probably be underground. Or maybe they're better off building underground complexes for habitation?
    I also find it weird there are no solar panels in any rendering. Surely the majority of power needs will be fulfilled by solar, since um...no atmosphere and no sky.

  • @shawnfromportland
    @shawnfromportland Před 6 měsíci

    really excellent channel

  • @christopherd.winnan8701
    @christopherd.winnan8701 Před 6 měsíci

    Good research - well done!
    Check out WASP 3D printing out of Italy that make large scale printers using local materials.

  • @maxthelionxmax9220
    @maxthelionxmax9220 Před 6 měsíci

    Cool video Melinda.. let me jump in..

  • @Benoit-Pierre
    @Benoit-Pierre Před 6 měsíci

    Most of the local energy cost will be to heat regolith. Sun is free, but solar pannels have weight. Heating is not so hard in space since there is no dissipation. =» is there a way to recover energy from the formed regolith ?
    Black body radiation is very slow, so we have time to grab it, but how to use contcat heat transfer and heat pump to recover that energy ?

  • @carlreeves9762
    @carlreeves9762 Před 6 měsíci

    Has any 1 ever pressurized the Structure too 15 psi or more to simulate conditions on the moon

  • @brianfong5711
    @brianfong5711 Před 5 měsíci

    0:52 Your intro music sounds like you are about to get hot and heavy with a chocolate lava cake.
    I don't know if it fits with your channel though.

  • @danielgregory5259
    @danielgregory5259 Před 6 měsíci

    Have you done any research on combining 3D printing with prefab construction? I can see a future where standardized pieces can be used to build quickly, with site irregularities or custom elements added on. The 3DP could be for speeding up, making a standardized foundation to attach the prefab to, or just architectural style

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 Před 6 měsíci

      The problem with 3D printers is you have to bring it in and set it up. Then you have to have the mix all ready and no faults can happen.
      What would work is robots building with bricks. Its a far better viable solution that solves a major amount of problems. Bricks can be factory sized. Bricks can be glued (like motar yet better and stronger ) bricks require only a few robots that can set up any time. Plans can be inserted and several pairs can build the building very quickly.
      3d printing just has too many flaws that can happen.

    • @danielgregory5259
      @danielgregory5259 Před 6 měsíci

      That also works, i guess I’m thinking of automation to get rid of unique issues, combined with standardized offsite construction for speed.

    • @danielgregory5259
      @danielgregory5259 Před 6 měsíci

      You would also still have to set up the brick-laying robot as well. Less challenging than the 3DP sure, but presumably not negligible.would also be interesting to see how quickly you can change the brick laying pattern on the fly vs a 3D print

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 Před 6 měsíci

      @@danielgregory5259 Of the brick laying robots out there and their concepts its far faster and better than the 3d printer which has to be set up to cover the entire building structure and be level. All the concrete, pump trucks and everything else needs to be set up. Where a brick laying robot only requires the pallets of bricks to be set near or inside the building. It does not require to be level or set up as it can move about the site as it needs to. The only thing it needs is a lay out program and a starting point or a few reference points. As long as the building is only a few stories high the entire structure can be built with bricks including the color layout, brick style and so on. There is a glue that can be used instead of motor this makes the entire build process far faster and far better. Glue can allow for a building to be built with one size brick or with a specific set of bricks.
      There are advantages to robots including human robots which are likely to see markets in 5 to 20 years. The faster they bring basic labor robots to the market the less we will require 3d printers. Humanoid robots can fill the labor pool and allow for companies to build better homes for far less. WIth a couple dozen human robots on site supervised by one human the labor can be next to nothing. A single person can charge 10k in labor for a 30 day build and make more money/profit than they would have before. Robots are the future and money will be less of a thing. The more robots we have the better lives and things will be/get.

  • @dwayneshirley6907
    @dwayneshirley6907 Před 5 měsíci

    @belinda Carr, may I ask your academic background?
    as I am currently an apprentice in civil engineering. I am curious about your journey.

  • @maxthelionxmax9220
    @maxthelionxmax9220 Před 6 měsíci

    Belinda! X

  • @bobbylittle6996
    @bobbylittle6996 Před 6 měsíci

    I would rather see the money spent here on earth. There are way more important things that need to be done here first. The evolution of technology down the road will be mature, for use on the moon.

  • @yvesvachon
    @yvesvachon Před 6 měsíci +1

    Merci! Some youtuber take there public for idiots. You do not.

  • @FreekHoekstra
    @FreekHoekstra Před 6 měsíci

    Now thats an airtight structure ;) passivhaus pffft.

  • @k4x4map46
    @k4x4map46 Před 5 měsíci

    perhaps some earth dust to house some ...well earthlings right here on earth...but I'm sure we'll find a way to complain about that...great 3D printing vids though

  • @Benoit-Pierre
    @Benoit-Pierre Před 6 měsíci

    3:47 moon quakes ???

  • @Ghandara-hg1gc
    @Ghandara-hg1gc Před 4 měsíci

    China's Chang'e 8 mission in 2028 will be carrying a reogolith 3D printer and also robots to use it to start China's permanent lunar colony.

  • @tylerduchesneau
    @tylerduchesneau Před 6 měsíci +1

    Underground tunnelling.

  • @specialkonacid6574
    @specialkonacid6574 Před 6 měsíci +1

    long term space travel will require simulated earth gravity and Schumann resonance for humans to survive the ordeal.

  • @cipaisone
    @cipaisone Před 6 měsíci +1

    It seems to me that much of this is paying for 3D animations

  • @j.g.3293
    @j.g.3293 Před 6 měsíci

    Super easy to have these built in a climate controlled factory. When they can plop one of these on the South Pole, then we can talk.

  • @whiteknightcat
    @whiteknightcat Před 6 měsíci +2

    Sorry to be pessimistic, but I don't see this ever happening. We simply will not be able to afford such things. Aside from the inevitable graft and corruption in the government contract and funding process that will cost more and more as projects advance, we will need to expend greater and greater resources on weaponry here on Earth.

    • @quangobaud
      @quangobaud Před 6 měsíci

      Opportunities for graft and corruption may be the ONLY reason needed for some to get involved in building habitats on the Moon.

    • @eddiegill
      @eddiegill Před 3 měsíci

      Elon will do it

    • @whiteknightcat
      @whiteknightcat Před 3 měsíci

      @@eddiegill 😂

  • @damien2198
    @damien2198 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The moon dust is so abrasive that no one or no machine can stay there for more than few days.

    • @DistortedSemance
      @DistortedSemance Před 6 měsíci +1

      The Yutu-2 rover has been operational since 2019, so it's hard, but not impossible. There's been recent advances as well to help deal with the issue, such as space suits with active electric fields to repel the ionized dust.
      Realistically, any feasible plan would need to send a fully self-replicating and self-repairing unit that can build its own replacement parts out of lunar resources. Which is...extremely difficult, to say the least. But given the pace that additive manufacturing is advancing right now, maybe not.

  • @stanton7847
    @stanton7847 Před 5 měsíci

    Hear me out. The answer has been tunnels and caves all along.

  • @GSUS-fc6ss
    @GSUS-fc6ss Před 6 měsíci

    You've lost weight. Looks good.

  • @entropycat
    @entropycat Před 6 měsíci

    Nice video... until the ecological nonsense about preserving lunar surface

  • @donhuffer5167
    @donhuffer5167 Před 3 měsíci

    Space race is such a huge waste of money. Please don’t try to sell me on all the innovations we got from it. Put that money into ocean exploration and be realistic because no one will ever live for any length of time more than a few miles from earth.

  • @fluffypinkpandas
    @fluffypinkpandas Před 6 měsíci

    I would be interested in there being portable or "hand held" (heavy and likely requiring 2 nauts to carry and operate) or Cart/buggy towed system that can scoop up lithic material as you drive around with it
    and then have a guy carefully prepare and lay jigsaw-type bricks and cubes of this stuff with crete-paste between layers to hold it together
    or
    to have the device "spin" and "spew" off of a loom like a spider spins silk while someone else either feeds the machine by pouring more and more dust into it, or is at the desposit site smoothing and shaping the lunar cotton candy into a structure. Cool too for on-the-spot damage repair. A hole from a meteor shower? get out the pastegun. blublubblublublub. (smoothes it with a trowel afterwards) ah. fixed.

  • @geoffreyfox60
    @geoffreyfox60 Před 6 měsíci

    Smart but like building projects has it's problems not mention no corner shop so a lot of problems to solve ❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊 as always I love ❤️ your show sweet girl