Targaryen Dragons Anatomy Explored - What's Their Origin, Reproduction, Fire Breathing, & Other Q's!
Vložit
- čas přidán 14. 09. 2022
- Start speaking a new language in 3 weeks with Babbel. Get up to 65% OFF your subscription Here: bit.ly/3pyUQxl
The Anatomy of Targaryen Dragons - House of the Dragon’s Mighty Beasts Explored
Thumbnail Credits - The left side of our thumbnail is extremely talented artist Michael-C-Hayes, check his DA page, it's rife with amazing arts!
Credits For The Amazing Artwork Used Inside The Video By Brilliant Artists!
John McCambridge
JOHAN EGERKRANS
beastofoblivion
Barth
Kevcatalan
ertacaltinoz
naomimakesart
#houseofthedragon #houseofdragon #gameofthrones - Zábava
Start speaking a new language in 3 weeks with Babbel. Get up to 65% OFF your subscription Here: bit.ly/3pyUQxl
🆗️
The fact the Seven books on Dragons were destroyed makes fully believe a conspiracy against the Targaryen
On reproduction: when Danny had her miscarraige, she was told that her baby was mishappen. That it looked like a bat. It's never brought up again, but I'vve never shaken the implication that humans could give birth to dragons
That could have been what the Valyrian blood mages were trying to experiment with before the fall of Valyria
The weird monstrous babies happen to a handful of Targaryens in the books. Daemon Targaryen and his wife Laena had one, Daemon Targaryen and Rhanera Targaryen had one and Maegor Targaryen had a couple as well. Babies with scaled skin, leathery wings, stubbed tails, both male and female sex organs, etc.
@@brittneystreeter493 so when a targaryen child is born its like a coin flip with the gods like "alright should we fuck up their baby?"
My theory is that the misshaped baby was due to lingering negative side effects of the blood magic used to create the dragons. There's room left in the explanation of GRRM to theorize they used possibly the less valued of their kin folk as the blood binder to create dragons from wyverns and worm creatures. That seems like a good enough reason for a blood curse for the strength of dragons
Maybe female Valeryians initially gave birth/helped create these creatures with the aid of blood mages. Hence why they are connected and share bonds.
GRRM didn't want to put dragons in his stories because of them not occurring in nature.
But The Night King, Children of the Forest, 3 Eyed Ravens and White Walkers are all naturalistic examples of things that occurre in the real world.
That checks out.
Met the Knight King on a walk yesterday, pretty cool dude.
The elder race speculated to teach the valyrians how to tame dragons came from the shadow beyond ashaai, not ashaai. They’re two separate places, although people commonly believe they are the same place
So a land to the East of Ashaai... interesting. What if they actually were part of Ashaai, just a specific part of it??
Asshai is a city-port
Yup it's why they say "beyond" because not many have been that way
There was one girl who managed to bond with the wild dragon Sheep-stealer earning his trust by feeding him sheep every morning. One day he bowed his head and allowed her to ride him. So maybe the Valyrians bond with dragons through sorcery but they are still thinking beings that can bond with anyone just not as easily.
You are referring to Nettles, who was a dragonseed aka. a valyrian descendant.
Or maybe it has to do with a blood bond as a quote from my book from Serin firebane " not any human can tame us, but if the blood sing in tune with ours then why not let them sing in a duet" basic saying that a dragon and a rider are fated to be at each other's side, what I would find funny and interesting is that cannibal was suppose to be the mad kings dragon
I’m so glad that the HOTD Dragons have saddle’s compared to the GOT dragons. A nice detail they added
Well, Dany didn't have resources for a Dragon saddle till a bit later, but she had gotten used to not having a saddle and just flying on Drogon bare
@@thalmoragent9344 I like that detail a lot though, she knew nothing and made do with what she had
@@TheJulietxo
Yep, agreed 👍🏾
@@thalmoragent9344 I would say she is a better rider than her family in my opinion. Especially after Drogon got hit with the scorpion by Bronn and Drogon did a little flip in the air after getting hit and Dany still held on without any saddle.
Caraxys isn't exactly a perfect example, he's a deformity
22:45 that would explain why some Targaryen unborns have dragon's features on them.
Now that they've done this let's do the Dragon Riders of Pern, Ann McCaffrey's book's sounds ripe for the picking,and would look great on the screen!!!.
YES
I thought no remembered that series but me
@@marijaneplacek3090 HAHA!!! And this sounds like somebody took the science out of it and replaced it with magic!!
@@e.blakebklyn5402 I agree that the Dragon Riders of Pern has long been overlooked and the attention must be paid . But as to the question of magic; I guess I am asking who had the orginal Magic. As for the science; isn't magic just science we have let to understand.
Indeed!!!!.
I'm not sure I'm correct on this but in Fire and Blood it implies it takes around 15 years for a dragon to grow large enough to be ridden, but Drogon appeared to be fully grown and fit to be ridden in a significantly shorter period. So, in theory, could Drogon grow possibly larger than his predecessors? If so, how much bigger?
No , rhaena had 9 years when she given dreamfire and three years later she became a rider .
great video! if anyone wants more info, I recommend The Disputed Lands. She goes deep.
Valerian steel is made from dragon bones and blood. Heating it up allows its reforming without flaws as a result.
Also. Dragons where breed/make by combining wyvers of the southern Isles and the fire wyrms with blood magic. Blood magic came from the shadowlands. Its how danny raised her dragons from fossil with blood magic. He did let slip and made i cannon.
Didn't Dragons exist from before Valyria?
Also, you're saying there's no steel in Valyrian Steel whatsoever? Maybe its molten steel with crushed Dragon Bone/bone powder placed in it... or blood, but I doubt they'd wanna kill off their Dragons just or excitement with Steel. Unless they waited till just as a Dragon died, which is possible.
Really it could just be Steel melted with Dragonfire, since Dragon fire had magical properties. But yeah, Blood Magic being involved I can totally see. "Only death can pay for life" after all.
Plus, how did the Valyrians take Dragons (or learn how to) if the Dragons were made by them? Unless you mean the Ashaai made the Dragons before the War for the Dawn?
@@thalmoragent9344 the story of the "lamb men" gaining there first dragon was ether a tale and/or a wyvern.
True dragons as they age develop iron in the marrow of the bone in higher densities. The result is that a dragon will eventually too heavy for old dragons to lift as old muscle struggles to take off.
Martin got the concept from bone iron blades. Basically the high carbon count of animals bones with iron or making basic medieval iron.
This also allowed him to bottleneck val blades being in abundance in the world and prevent new ones being forged. Plus it gave him the chance add a little history after they split neds blade.
Also though it isn't stated... but is hinted. Therefore isn't cannon, its likely most of the val bloodlines have some dragon blood in them from the same experiments that make game of thrones dragons. But that is upto the interpretation of the reader.
@@superslyshadow1915 Bone iron blades? You mean mixing bog-iron with bone-coal in the forge to create a sort of primitive steel?
Amazing video!
great video thanks
This is the video I was looking for that I didn't know existed. I want more on Old Valaria and the lands of Ashy and dragons.
Loved this sm
What if dragon spwan like fish, the female lays the eggs the male then come along and fertilises them .
idk if that would work because in the water it can spread over the eggs, and the eggs out layers are soft/more permeable. On dry land the egg shells are hard like a bird or lizard would be. think of how frogs still have to spawn in the water because theyre eggs would dry out otherwise. so hed just be cumming on egg shells basically lol. i dont think it could "seep" in and fertilize in that way. just a nerds opinion XD
Thanks... it's working... Good Job...!
I like to see more dragon types in house of dragons. Maybe so a fire wyrm and have a flashback of balerion. Love to see a land drake ( that's big as to pull war wagons)
The fire wyrms are these little parasitic worms that were found growing and burying out of one of the Targaryen princesses stomach after she disappeared with Balerion
@@gholamdapantaloonsniffer8218 what! There were giants creatures that lived the the 14 flames. There breathed fire and burrowed through the rock and stone
Great video thank you 😅
Subbed.
I get the sense that septum Barth is GRRM’s in universe dragon expert so personally I trust whatever he says about dragons as being an he closest to the truth
Nice video
Pretty good vid. You should check out David Lightbringer's Dracomorph video is a great deep dive into the dragon lore.
If I was making the 1st appearance of the story of Aegon conquest I’d do it like this!! 1 movie then a series
14:33 But not entirely unheard of. Before dna testing, and even now due to the risk and cost involved, there are plenty of bird species whose sex can only be determined if they lay an egg. Same with some fish species.
Dragons in Ice&Fire & Fire&Blood are made to be more realistic, like tamed dinosaurs that can breathe fire. George Martin ensured that his fantasy world is more realistic to be more relatable. Brilliant!
Shall We!
Interesting, that’s why the flag of Wales 🏴 has the red Dragon.
Smoug design is actually similar to GOT, only 3 times larger
And can talk.
Nice
Love this video so much! The wyvern style is by far probably my favorite style of dragon and it's super cool to see all the different body types in GoT. I can't wait to see how creative they get in the next season. 🥰🐍🐉🥰
Actually that is incorrect sir a Wyvern is considered a breed of dragon for instance in the Norse and Germanic myth of Fafnir, Fafnir was called a dragon but if you read his discribtion it is that of a Wyvern, in fact the definition of Wyvern is a two legged winged DRAGON with a barbed tail
The he must have "borrowed " a lot of the design from Vermatrax Perjorative; the dragon in the movie "Dragonslayer" He , Mr. Martin has said the this is one of his 'favorite' dragons.
I want a dragon.
12:24
I bet Butters and Scott enjoying the show now.
Why does the pic of the mage put me in the mind of Elminster of Shadowdale? 🤣🤣
I was stationed at Osama AB which is located in South Korea
G.R.R. Martin forgot that there is a difference between Eastern and Western Dragons, As you seem to have as well. Eastern Dragons have a more serpentine body with with 4 legs, Western (European) Dragons have two forms, 1: 4 legs and 2 wings, and 2: hind legs and forelimbs are wings, Then there is the Wyverns which can be interchanged for the second version of dragon and up till the HP movies and G.R.R.M's of Dragons have almost always been called Wyverns after the Middle ages.
Then there are the Dragons of other places in the world. some look more like Serpents. Some even being called as such. The Feathered Serpent of South and Central America, the Horned Serpent or North America, and the Rainbow Serpent of Australia as well as those of the Mediterranean and Africa.
Don't forget there are two different forms of Eastern Dragons (I don't mean Chinese and Japanese), being the 4 clawed and 5 clawed forms.
But what G.R.R.M is basing his dragons off of is the Pre-Middle Age and Wyvern which both are mostly seen as one and the same and not actual dragons. And if you look at the actual depiction of the "Dragons" on the old Welsh and British flags they have Beaks and arrow ended (or stinger tipped) tails. These are both defining features of Wyverns and NOT dragons but are in fact Wyverns. This is where the confusion of two legged and two winged Dragons steam from and where popular culture gets dragons wrong. There are only two distinc forms of dragons the Eastern and Western, the others are Serpents and NOt dragons and Wyverns, also NOT dragons.
Holy shit this. I get a little irritated when people keep putting their heads in the sand and being absolutely certain that 2wings2legs = wyvern when dragonic lore is far more complex then the D&D definition, where this whole 'what is a dragon' argument comes from. And people making these arguments don't even realize it because they don't even bother to look up sources.
I would have though no matter how large they grow, as they're always in proportion, a dragon will always be able to fly. Crossing to info from the Pern books, a dragons wingspan should be half-again it's length, I believe.
The problem is that mass does not increase proportionally to the wing-surface and length, but to the power of 3. That is why there are limits to the size of flying things, as the wings would have get proportionally bigger with increasing size.
@@obiwahndagobah9543 yeah and muscles in the chest and back would have to be massive to support flying.
does babble have high valeryian?
I wonder what determines dragons sex and I also wonder if they shed their scales at all
We do get to see how dragons reproduce during Episode 4 😉
What about Canibal?
Very carefully.
What about Dragonlance??
Will we see Dragons laying eggs in the series?
When they are being ridden in battle. How do the dragons know when to shoot fire at the enemies?
Because the riders tell them
Wyverns are dragons. They are a certain breed of dragon like coatyls, amphipteres, wyrms, and drakes. Claiming that the only true dragon is a four legged, two winged European style dragon is simply incorrect as every culture around the world has a dragon or dragon like creature in their mythology and each is different and unique in its design either physically or in some other way. A dragon can be whatever an author or film maker chooses to make it. There is no proper or specific definition for a dragon.
so,,, three heads has the dragon? wyrm, wyvern and valerian?
The three headed dragon isnt actually a three headed dragon, its the first three Targaryen dragons stood together, hence why it also has four legs not two
Great info, the bible does talk about 3headed dragon too,.Fun facts. I think evil its what its in the end of time. My opinion 🤷♀️✌🥴🙃🐲
Regardless of whether the biological sex of a dragon in the GOT world is fixed from conception or can change due to circumstances, they definitely use sexual reproduction. If they used asexual reproduction, the offspring would be identical in physical appearance to the parent.
Keeping it real was kind of silly since he has Undead ice zombies.....
And we actually did have a wings reptile with six limbs in the fossil record. It was his stupid argument for why you couldn't have a six limbed dragon.
What's the 6th limbed winged reptile called?
Drogon as a hatchling trying to breath fire and just smoke comes out is sooooo cute. To think in the last episode ever his fire melts the Iron Throne and in the penultimate episode of season 8 his fire is so powerful it’s explosive! When he breathed fire on stone buildings, city walls, defence towers and the Red Keep they’re all blown away as if they were hit by a missile from an F-15. If you remember when Daenerys’s army is outside the city walls just waiting facing the Red Army of Cerci all you hear is explosions and people screaming, then Drogon flys over breathing fire and the city walls and gates just explode like a bomb went off with blocks of stone crushing Cerci’s army. I can only imagine how big and powerful Drogon will be when he reaches 100yrs old. I hope they do a spin off series about Jon Snow after the events of Game Of Thrones and in that series I would absolutely love to see Jon Snow become Drogon’s new rider (be great if Drogon seeks out Jon to be his new rider because after Daenerys’s death he needs that human comfort he got from her and since Jon loved Daenerys as well as him being Targaryen Jon would be perfect for Drogon and I can see him seeking Jon out)
Ok, what breed of dragon is Vhagar?
Balerion got so big from playing on a low level server😂
Are dragon in gOT Wyvern cuz they only have 2 legs not 4 legs
"How do Dragons Reproduce?"
Up the tail, and plugged in? :|
Didn't the original dragons exist in Asshai.
Sharks are a good example of space and food making them bigger js. If you put a baby shark in a small tank it will only grow big enough for the tank.
That's been proved false on meny occasions. You can keep sharks in a fish tank lol
Afaics, Tolkein's 'Smaug', at least as portrayed in Jackson's Hobbit films, is virtually a double of Martin's conceptualisation of the Targaryen dragons...right down to both being sentient. Though I'm not suggesting either creation directly inspired the other.
Although the one real distinction is Smaug's ability to communicate in a classic British accent.. and that at least does seem to be modelled on an earlier non-human villain. Shere Khan; superbly voiced by George Sanders in Disney's animated classic take on Kipling's "Jungle Book"
Maybe Balerion and his pals can only speak in High Valyrian? Or being cursed with obviously phony Irish brogues left over along with some surplus 'Harfoot' extras from Amazon Prime's abysmal "The Rings Of Power" Season 1, they quite understandably prefer not to talk at all.😁
Dude, Smaug was written long, long before the Martin books. I’m not even sure GRRM had been born yet.
😂
Use the timeline to help not to confuse yourself.
@@namedrop721 So what's your very probably irrelevant point? Try reading my comment before replying so as to de-confuse yourself b.t.w..... ..er? ...'sonny'.
I know exactly how dragons reproduce.... they are born from the heads of story tellers! How fo they breathe fire? Well, they NEVER brush their teeth! Can you imagine their "DRAGON BREATH"?
All wyvern are dragons but not all dragons are wyvern
The other funny thing you mention is smaug
Is a wyvern well atleast in the hobbie movie, he's still dragon as I mentioned
They are wyverns not dragons. Dragons have human like intelligence and for legs separated from their wings.
Outside of GoT the older a dragon is the more powerful they become. Until they plateau towards the twilight of their death.
Nobody knows, never made another one.
I disagree. Drogon is definitely more of a wolf's head type not a dinosaur type.
So basically magic ,blood and human beasts breeding. I mean it's common in literature for years I mean centuries. Let's just twist a little words here and there like the Greek story of the Minotaur LOL
So in the case of the dragon died before his rider, like King Viserys & Balerion, can the human rider bond with a new dragon?
Spoiler......
.
Not so certain, but didn't that after Syrax died, Rhaneyra thought about getting a new dragon?
Yep, and after Sunfyre died, Aegon was considering a new egg or bonding with an older dragon.
Viserys was just never into dragons,he only claimed Balerion because it was expected for him to take a dragon. Once Balerion died it was like, "well that's that then."
How would G.R.R. Martin know about the "realism" of "magic"? Is he a student of Aleister Crowley? lol
Oh god. One of those "wYvErNs ArEnT dRaGoNs" guys
I don't think their bones are "literally" steel.
P
Anyone who how they dragons were killed but he volcanos in Valarya of fire can’t kill a dragon?
it could be a thing where fire couldn't destroy the ring, but Mt doom could? only the fires where dragons were birthed could destroy them maybe?
Ok here’s a question, do they have to bathe the Dragons? And who gets that job? 🤣🤣🤣
This dragon design is not actually original. Look up an old movie about a wizard’s apprentice. Wish I could remember the movie title.
Then why did drogan bended to Jon snow
#74th
Like #990 😎😎😎
It's amazing. Everything you've said is wrong.
What would be super cool is Drogon returns and let’s John Snow ride him and dragons return after centuries of hiding
Maybe hercules just killed 9 or seven decent sized snakes great big lie bet he was lifting breeze blocks aswell
well.....they got the design wrong, you need muuuuuch larger wings to rise that weight from the ground up
According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a dragon should be able to fly. It's wings are too small to get its fat body off the ground. The dragon, of course, flies anyway, because dragons don't care what humans think is impossible.
@@stuffynosepatrol thats what I said lol
@@royalecrafts6252 that was the opening to the bee movie 👀
@@stuffynosepatrol facts say that to the bees & wasps 😂 those f*ckers be too angry to stay still an will fly cuz they want to
@@jayclearmen411 exactly, same with dragons. Wasps are just dragons with short-person rage.
They get on top of each other, reproduction 101
GRRM couldn't imagine how "unrealistic" dragons could exist in his magical fantasy world, where wildfire exists, and white walkers / night king exists, bringing people back from the dead exists, etc.
To put it simply, GRRM doesn't have much imagination beyond the minimum necessary to write passe' fantasy novels.
There have been many treatises and treatments written over the years, and I have no issues whatsoever coming up with dozens of races/species of draconids in the fantasy worlds and games I've created over the years. All it takes is a little imagination, and a little practical thinking.
You milked it for 6 mins and then started the video
In other words he copied Edinburgh. A castle built on a dead volcano but on their end the volcano erupted killing the people. Edinburgh Castle the Scottish Castle where our kings and Queens of Old. Last one Mary Queen of Scots God bless her souls and may she be a peace. Us Scots are fierce warriors always have been since the celts the Scot’s, Irish, Welsh, Manx. Cornish, Britons and a few more. We are a people that had to have walls built to stop us from attacking Rome. Rome never conquered us. They didn’t have the balls to. Lol 😂
There's only female dragons and male! 'Otherwise if that was the case that Dragons Could change sex! Why! Didn't Daeneryses Dragons change sex to save there Species?? 🤔 As in game of thrones they where the last 3 so why didn't one of those dragons change sex??? So I don't believe this
Drogon is the greatest dragon ever! Not Smaug! 🔥
Sad that African Dragon legends are so forgotten 😭 even when European dragons are said to hail from Africa… the rainbow wyrms of Africa 🤧
European Dragon legends DO NOT come from Africa... African dragons are completely different that European dragons (they are serpent like, do not fly and have no fire as the ones in Europe do. African Dragons are typically associated with gods, while European Dragons are just wild beasts) and they are younger historically than European dragon stories. So more likely, African stories may come from Eurasia rather than the opposite. The earliest mention of dragons is from Asia, then moving to Europe and from there to North Africa and the rest of Africa, so dont say NONESENSE and spread misinformation that touches nationalistic views of the world.
@@Alejojojo6 I NEVER said they did European dragons are their own beast BUT they were theorized to originate from a certain far off continent lol, reading comprehension please.
@@Alejojojo6 You went on a whole rant about something I didnt even say, cope.
Not dragons, they are Wyverns.
That's like saying it's not a reptile, it's a lizard. Wyverns are a TYPE of dragon. All wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns. Don't take my word for it read a fucking book.
You honestly think you know more than George?
I DO know more biology than George but he's right on the money. of all animals that have EVER lived on land or in sky, ALL have had 4 limbs (except snakes which do have four vestigial limbs). All birds mammals. e reptiles have four limbs
Martin: *directly says which dragons are boys and which are girls.
Fans: they are all genderless!
I disagree. Drogon is definitely more of a wolf's head type not a dinosaur type.