New York City | Some Night in Manhattan before 9/11 | twin towers by night

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • photographed by Gregor Skowronek before the tragedy of 9/11 for a TV-Commercial (©2001)
    Music performed by SPACETONE "Music for Gracious Living"
    published at MUSICIRCUS™ / Skowronek Musikverlag™ (©2001)
    Thanks to the pilot, the authorities of NY and Trash-TV™ for realisation.

Komentáře • 255

  • @Mattdude411
    @Mattdude411 Před 2 lety +73

    Early digital film, pre 9/11, late 90s/early 00s elevator sounding music… watching this video feels like seeing a different world.

    • @jjberedda8465
      @jjberedda8465 Před rokem +1

      Facts, like a universe where 9/11 never happened.

  • @classic287
    @classic287 Před 8 lety +297

    Man, those buildings were beautiful....

  • @eighto1213
    @eighto1213 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Its not just the buildings,its also the vibe, how everything was so chill before the war on terror

  • @BigEdDunkel
    @BigEdDunkel Před 5 lety +139

    Unpopular opinion: pre 9/11 the World Trade Center was considered a classic tourist magnet to the city. Period. It garnered NO LOVE from New Yorkers except as a directional reference point on the street or maybe as an architectural highlight in a movie. After 9/11, however, a different narrative quickly arose .. .

    • @davisilva5064
      @davisilva5064 Před 3 lety +7

      I also thought of that possibility.

    • @mrandrossguy9871
      @mrandrossguy9871 Před 3 lety +14

      Well only Now the whole Complex was/is Very unique,
      and is Even More idolized now because of discovering them in Movies and other things from Curious young folk and younger Generations ?
      "Don't know what you had until it's Gone"
      Yeah well they Chose to keep it Gone Now with building totally Different looking Towers etc.

    • @lewisgriffin9684
      @lewisgriffin9684 Před 2 lety +4

      If our president at the time knew how to take care of Homeland Security there would have been no attacks nothing is a magnet for terrorist other than the country itself

    • @loki-vv2oo
      @loki-vv2oo Před 2 lety +7

      Most tourist hotspots are not loved by the locals so I understand.

    • @Harley-and-Her-Ruff-Riders
      @Harley-and-Her-Ruff-Riders Před 2 lety +2

      @@lewisgriffin9684 how cute! You thought the Department of Homeland Security existed before November of 2002.

  • @JungleYT
    @JungleYT Před 5 lety +62

    Cool... Still breaks my heart that we never replaced the Towers

    • @keyshawnscott12
      @keyshawnscott12 Před 4 lety +5

      One world trade center

    • @SteveSoyYo
      @SteveSoyYo Před 2 lety +21

      @@keyshawnscott12 exactly nothing replaces the towers

    • @Suriganda
      @Suriganda Před rokem +1

      @@NickDrawzComix I personally like the new one better, and I was born 12 years after 9/11

    • @APerson-ni1gb
      @APerson-ni1gb Před rokem +6

      Not Replace but Restore and respect the Historical meaning.
      Indeed we should have built Back Modern Twins Across from the Original Footprint Memorials so that we Truly could Move Forward while Carrying the Spirit of those who were Killed and why the center was an icon in the first place !
      Although it is still possible to Do that but rebuild Modern Twins Some place else and for a different meaning But still Nodding to the Trade Center 🤷‍♂️☮️

    • @JungleYT
      @JungleYT Před rokem

      @@APerson-ni1gb Yeah... I should have put "rebuild" or restore. They barely acknowledge the new Tower, as it barely appears in any pictures or videos from NYC unlike the old Twins. They mostly show the Empire State? Says a lot about how people feel...

  • @rknine7998
    @rknine7998 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I remember when I was a kid, we arrived from vacation and before we landed back at LaGuardia, we saw the skyline during the late '90s.

  • @milantomcik3651
    @milantomcik3651 Před 7 lety +185

    Wish I had a chance too see those twin towers at night.

    • @dvchel
      @dvchel Před 6 lety +27

      Me too mate! So amazing. Can you imagine what it would be like today with all the technology.

    • @soogitill
      @soogitill Před 5 lety +5

      @@dvchel Pretty much the same

    • @dvchel
      @dvchel Před 5 lety +15

      @@soogitill From the outside definitely, but on the inside a lot of changes. Reinforced concrete core and columns, pressurized emergency staircases, adhesive anti-fire proof spray. Perhaps even a retractable bridge on top of their roofs to connect one another in case of an emergency.

    • @generalgrievous3066
      @generalgrievous3066 Před 4 lety +6

      When you re on the brooklynn birdge, they was impressive because you see many windows

    • @kirillassasin
      @kirillassasin Před 4 lety +5

      I’d love to sit near the fountain at the late evening and drink some bear

  • @TheBje551
    @TheBje551 Před 9 lety +176

    This was New York i would live on ........ with the Twin Towers and people not hating each other's culture

    • @johnshaw8228
      @johnshaw8228 Před 6 lety +2

      I had known about these attacks since 1997.

    • @doitanywayz
      @doitanywayz Před 5 lety +4

      @@johnshaw8228 what do you mean?

    • @htownhungryhustle9611
      @htownhungryhustle9611 Před 4 lety +8

      @@johnshaw8228 even if your telling the truth. You did nothing to try & atleast warn others let along authorities..

    • @Maximus1879-
      @Maximus1879- Před 4 lety +1

      TheBje551 stupid Osama bin ladin

    • @Italiangirlnj747
      @Italiangirlnj747 Před 4 lety +1

      Me2 it's too much bs now

  • @AluminumOxide
    @AluminumOxide Před 3 lety +18

    Classic NY skyline and orange street lights, a sight I so dearly miss, but had the opportunity to experience it.

    • @markjackson5333
      @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety

      Are they not orange now

    • @AluminumOxide
      @AluminumOxide Před 3 lety +2

      @@markjackson5333 not anymore, mostly white LEDs

    • @markjackson5333
      @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AluminumOxide hey do you know what the song is. Or the original film maker

  • @ita9284
    @ita9284 Před 8 lety +39

    This was the true essence of New York... 😪 now everything is gone😭😭

  • @moozartney
    @moozartney Před 2 lety +16

    Most beautiful city. Such an amazing view of all the buildings at night, especially the Twin Towers.

  • @pikemeredith5604
    @pikemeredith5604 Před 4 lety +24

    What a stunning view of NY at night & to see the dazzling lights of the Twin Towers. Still commenting on how sad it was what happened to them & to the workers who worked in them. Oh, the Chrysler Bldg. is beautiful too & the Empire State.

  • @adamm2837
    @adamm2837 Před 8 lety +91

    Seeing this incredible footage of the city lit up at night with all those amazing buildings makes one realize that man can accomplish great things when working together. The greatness of this city and all the man-made creations that its made up of will always overshadow the destruction caused by a few individuals full of hate.

    • @Rescue-vn5dw
      @Rescue-vn5dw Před 2 lety +4

      What's more foolish about those hateful individuals was that they were attacking and destroying landmarks that belonged to the human race as a whole. They attacked symbols of human might and our great potential- not just the USA's. So in essence, they destroyed something of their own.

    • @adamm2837
      @adamm2837 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Rescue-vn5dw Beautifully stated.

    • @jordanmorris5827
      @jordanmorris5827 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Rescue-vn5dw they were attacked because they were symbols of modernity and Western dominance. Their ideological world view despised everything that these buildings represented.

    • @Rescue-vn5dw
      @Rescue-vn5dw Před 2 lety +7

      @@jordanmorris5827 Yeah, it was a terrible mistake for them to not realize that skyscrapers were actually a show of human modernity and dominance (among countless other creations and structures other than skyscrapers.) And unfortunately, as a result, 20 years later- many, many, middle eastern countries were carved up, chewed and spit out by NATO and US forces- And it has lead to power vacuums and overthrown leaders all over the region. We didn't want this. It was a mistake that is still biting those hateful fools to this day. Those extremists have only plunged their families and people into fighting a war they will never see because of their suicide attacks. They should have known better not to attack a super power like that..

    • @jordanmorris5827
      @jordanmorris5827 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Rescue-vn5dw well said, thank you for the thoughtful response

  • @Kareem4692
    @Kareem4692 Před 5 lety +14

    I Miss my Old NYC

  • @SkyRaw04
    @SkyRaw04 Před 6 lety +28

    The music is crazy 90’s

    • @tfmg8223
      @tfmg8223 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Wish I knew what it was called

    • @ctgez7927
      @ctgez7927 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@tfmg8223same ☹️

  • @Gun42Guy
    @Gun42Guy Před 9 lety +40

    Love the music. Certain parts of it actually sound like the song " Insane in the Membrane " by Cypress Hill.

  • @sekimoki3024
    @sekimoki3024 Před 2 lety +8

    And the music 😎

  • @paulbirkbeck1790
    @paulbirkbeck1790 Před rokem +5

    2001 the future is now the past. It feels like another time and place.

  • @DrPlatypus1
    @DrPlatypus1 Před 12 lety +21

    Beautiful. It's still hard to believe how precious photographs or videos of the World Trade Center would become. Excellent video.

  • @kendodubbag72
    @kendodubbag72 Před 6 lety +14

    Wow this video seems so recent! It's almost as if the towers are still there! This coming from someone who's never been to NYC.

  • @yoranw4608
    @yoranw4608 Před 2 lety +6

    Awesome. Thank you for sharing.
    *WE WILL NEVER FORGET*

  • @Dc-10-aa191
    @Dc-10-aa191 Před 3 lety +6

    I can’t be the only one looking back in how erie and creepy the days before 9/11 was . I’m looking at these video just thinking to myself “so many people didn’t even know they weren’t going to be alive in a few days/hours” nobody of America knew the tragedy that was to come 😞

  • @terrymanning1
    @terrymanning1 Před 7 lety +17

    Love this music

  • @persephanie7755
    @persephanie7755 Před 7 lety +8

    Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing it. Though, the title has some people confused. Should say "A Manhattan night, before 9/11", instead of "Manhattan night before 9/11". Current title makes it sound like it was filmed the night before.

  • @shevandy55
    @shevandy55 Před 3 lety +4

    The music gives this video a nice New York feel, man. Nice 😎

  • @JMMT7022801
    @JMMT7022801 Před 13 lety +4

    This particular CZcams video montage of New York City reminds me of the opening intro to the Late Late Show with Tom Snyder in the early nineties.

  • @Moondrake17
    @Moondrake17 Před 11 lety +10

    NYC is so beautiful.
    I love this city!

  • @TheNewYorker7899
    @TheNewYorker7899 Před 8 lety +56

    i hate the skyline 2015...........
    the New York we love is being destroyed

  • @terrrell7798
    @terrrell7798 Před 3 lety +5

    This is the NYC I grew up in

  • @rodschermerhorn6996
    @rodschermerhorn6996 Před 6 lety +5

    they were like human to me or something.i miss them and i never saw the inside.i hear the stories and remember the day and where i was when they were hit,i was 25.they seem almost larger than life.im a upstate new yorker not the big city but i care like they were mine.why i dont know.

  • @Crispy99999
    @Crispy99999 Před 3 lety +3

    @ 2:36 they should have rebuilt them in the opposite corners with the memorial gardens as they are now...

  • @agustinhernandez3171
    @agustinhernandez3171 Před 2 lety +4

    El más grande proyecto hecho por la Humanidad desde las Pirámides a mi parecer, Yamasaki logró volver algo simple en místico e inolvidable, su nombre se perdió pero su obra perduró.
    ¿Porque no intentarlo otra vez?

  • @joestewart8914
    @joestewart8914 Před 2 lety +5

    Thanks for the night flight, dude. Manhattan was a better place back then. Sucks now.

    • @-Alexander2001MB
      @-Alexander2001MB Před 2 lety

      I hate to tell you this but New York is always been bad LOL😅😅😅

    • @joestewart8914
      @joestewart8914 Před 2 lety +1

      @@-Alexander2001MB Worked in 4 of the 5 (not S.I.) during Koch, Dinkins, Giuliani and Bloomberg. Was sketchy under Koch, stunk during Dinkins, Giuliani cleaned it all up, then Bloomberg made it only for the rich. Now it's a 3rd World shithole, or worse.

  • @tylerchristensen7434
    @tylerchristensen7434 Před 7 lety +27

    This is what I think of when I hear New York, not what it will become in 2020

    • @tylerchristensen7434
      @tylerchristensen7434 Před 3 lety +7

      @jellosaur2 ayo i got surprised when i read my own comment j now, man i got no clue wtf i was saying😭

    • @markjackson5333
      @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tylerchristensen7434 basically it's got worse

    • @llllIIIlllIIllllII
      @llllIIIlllIIllllII Před 2 lety

      @Jello 💜🤍 there was always a feeling something would go wrong

  • @noeyedeer4227
    @noeyedeer4227 Před 3 lety +6

    it calms me very much to see them 😌

  • @elliotttalksf1825
    @elliotttalksf1825 Před 2 lety +2

    Never seen them lit at night until this video. They were beautiful!

  • @GHOST-hh4ft
    @GHOST-hh4ft Před 2 lety +1

    Lest We Forget. Respect from England. 🇬🇧❤️🇺🇸

  • @Serea79
    @Serea79 Před 11 lety +14

    I agree, Im not even from New York and I miss the Twin Towers alot so I can only image how people feel that are from there. They should have rebuilt them to show that we cannot be defeated, and to show that they cannot CHANGE the way New York will look. The Twin Towers were New York's symbol, the big city, Silverstein should of made those towers go right back up like HA HA, you cant change shit about us!

  • @user-uz2ij7hh6p
    @user-uz2ij7hh6p Před 8 lety +93

    you sure? i though it was raining really bad the night before

    • @southwriter
      @southwriter Před 8 lety +74

      It doesn't say "the night before . . ." It says "SHORTLY before". It could've been a few days before.

    • @capitalisteconomist
      @capitalisteconomist Před 8 lety +9

      Omg, small youtube world. I love watching your police chases.

    • @user-uz2ij7hh6p
      @user-uz2ij7hh6p Před 8 lety +10

      Nate Thegreat lol thanks

    • @sepiacense
      @sepiacense Před 7 lety +12

      wwwy2000 It's not the night before, it's just a manhattan night before the Attacks of September 11.

    • @newingvaeona8907
      @newingvaeona8907 Před 7 lety

      wwwy2000 it does look overcast here

  • @Streetw1s3r
    @Streetw1s3r Před 5 lety +6

    2:25 what we all came here to see.

  • @scoop6276
    @scoop6276 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow what an amazing experience that must have been, I'm in Ah!, just watching it, would've loved to have had the opportunity to have visited at that time

  • @w1neken
    @w1neken Před rokem +1

    Will Definitely Become A Resident One Day . What A Genuinely Beautiful City .

  • @lizzydreamer6940
    @lizzydreamer6940 Před měsícem +2

    Am I the only one who feels like the 90's had a certain warmth to it, whereas currently everything feels cold and impersonal. From our technology, to our shows and even people. It might be because everyone is striving for "perfection", which makes the world feel like a glossy, fake reality.

  • @carlosalenduran4630
    @carlosalenduran4630 Před 7 lety +6

    this my beautiful. new york city that I ♥soooo much:)
    god bless American ♥ you with all of my heart

  • @takahashiwongwong1
    @takahashiwongwong1 Před 12 lety +13

    i still want the twin towers back :(

  • @DeadlyV1RU5
    @DeadlyV1RU5 Před 2 lety +3

    This video was uploaded closer to 9/11 than to today (October 2021). 🤯

  • @Aqene1000
    @Aqene1000 Před 10 lety +14

    Smooooth music - googled Space Tone but not finding any info on " Spacetone " musicians. Any suggestions ??

  • @FastCarsNoRules220
    @FastCarsNoRules220 Před 11 lety +12

    the last day of the best times in new york. the next day (9/11) is the beginning of the gloomy days of this city.

  • @fs6414
    @fs6414 Před 4 lety +4

    New York City at its prime.

  • @ianclarke3627
    @ianclarke3627 Před 5 lety +1

    Marvellous, why would anyone thumb down this .

  • @gilaquino3646
    @gilaquino3646 Před 6 lety +7

    REBUILD THE TWIN TOWERS MAKE NEW YORK NOMARL PLS

  • @alexscott_rich
    @alexscott_rich Před 11 lety +9

    yeah they put some new buildings there but i still want the old twin towers back

  • @nelsonlauren
    @nelsonlauren Před 12 lety +5

    Beautiful, its like a sea of jewls! Gutted about the twin towers.

  • @DDTPZX
    @DDTPZX Před 11 lety +5

    i wish I could go back in time, and just tell everyone to evacuate right before the crash.... fuck.

  • @davidmthekidd
    @davidmthekidd Před 8 lety +40

    The Morning after the end of the world as we know it went to hell. Music is crap, Movies a Remakes, WARS WAR, The economies of the world are in trouble.

    • @Italiangirlnj747
      @Italiangirlnj747 Před 4 lety +2

      N its gotten worse 2020 beg of end

    • @duckman761
      @duckman761 Před 4 lety +1

      I know i was born in the mid 90s i even being a kid i saw all that proces. It felt like before 9.11 humanity were very optimistic about having a bright future.
      Now on 2020 i think we are facing a similar fate.

  • @TheKoopaClown
    @TheKoopaClown Před 6 lety +3

    Getting a strong Streets of Rage vibe 👍

  • @jd47jd
    @jd47jd Před 12 lety +2

    What a great video and view.

  • @bhtxwmb
    @bhtxwmb Před 2 lety +3

    Beautiful

  • @damiancybulski2951
    @damiancybulski2951 Před 3 lety

    Beautiful New York from my childhood.

  • @RandyR
    @RandyR Před 6 lety +2

    The final huge positive event, before the world changed forever was the 30th Anniversary of Michael Jackson in Madison Square Gardens. It was a night to remember. Than we woke up hoping that 9/11 was actually a nightmare.Sadly it was a very horrible reality.

  • @rodschermerhorn6996
    @rodschermerhorn6996 Před 6 lety +3

    Also i feel like the one tower is not enough, even though they did their best.

  • @marquesturner71
    @marquesturner71 Před 2 lety +1

    🔥

  • @ahmadfaizabdrahman9924
    @ahmadfaizabdrahman9924 Před 2 lety +1

    Chrysler, Empire State & WTC (1973-2001)

  • @kingMT514
    @kingMT514 Před 5 lety +10

    Imagine if 9/11 happened at night. Less death, also there would be a huge dark spot in Lower Manhattan bc of the power outage. It would look oddly strange

    • @blissdelpopolo6322
      @blissdelpopolo6322 Před 3 lety +3

      actually a lot more people would've died , because the towers in the morning were only half as populated as they d get during the day (by night there would be about maybe 15k people in there); it was night so it would ve been harder to escape and it would ve taken a much longer time to make the way down...and for rescue to come....also also it probably would ve gone less noticed that the buildings were fallin hence half the people below wouldnt have probably had the time to run away from the cloud.

    • @BabySonicGT
      @BabySonicGT Před 3 lety +1

      @@blissdelpopolo6322 I think your right

  • @ronnybakes31wichitastate32

    What is the name of this song?

  • @user-cv6dq8xg2q
    @user-cv6dq8xg2q Před 4 lety +2

    Music??? Please

  • @DarthCookieKS
    @DarthCookieKS Před 2 lety

    Second most beautiful city in the country after my hometown of Hickok, Kansas

  • @terrymanning1
    @terrymanning1 Před 13 lety +9

    Love the music. Where can I buy it?

  • @markjackson5333
    @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety +1

    Love to know the music

  • @johnshaw8228
    @johnshaw8228 Před 6 lety

    What this does not tell you is that this same night I was on the phone anonymously to a law number in Fort Pierce, Florida. I was warning of major terrorist event coming "very soon." That was the last pre 9-11 warning of about 130 people I had told about these attacks beginning in September of 1997.

  • @suesmith4289
    @suesmith4289 Před 2 lety +1

    Looks wonderful.😁

  • @paulbirkbeck1790
    @paulbirkbeck1790 Před rokem

    22 years ago today the towers fell and lives ended.God bless everyone ♥️

  • @barumbadum
    @barumbadum Před 7 lety +2

    The city that never sleeps

  • @markjackson5333
    @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety +1

    The title is misleading because its not the up loaders video. So he or she could of just said its a few days before just for views when it could be years before

  • @dr.lindashmkn-thedoklin-8841

    Best memory

  • @MrSteven1729
    @MrSteven1729 Před 11 lety +2

    Great video!...loved seeing the twin towers! Awesome music!

  • @matteo40886
    @matteo40886 Před 11 lety

    Amazing Amazing Amazing Amazing

  • @coreyrowe4119
    @coreyrowe4119 Před rokem

    The World Trade Center (R.I.P. 1973-2001) had a unique beauty when lit up at night!

  • @rowdyelitehater8595
    @rowdyelitehater8595 Před 6 lety +1

    The new buildings look so over the top and shit. The port authority should have retaken control over the complex and rebuilt the originals.

  • @OldHoboManYouTube
    @OldHoboManYouTube Před 7 lety +1

    cries

  • @CassidyzBoo
    @CassidyzBoo Před 12 lety +1

    Extremely sad

  • @emmanuelarath
    @emmanuelarath Před 3 dny

    Bro, the streets lights, all of them was orange tone, now you can see the difference, all streets lights are white led, is other vibe very different, nobody realize that.

  • @Dariadubs...
    @Dariadubs... Před rokem +1

    The empire state building with the colours of mexico?

  • @urban_stories
    @urban_stories Před 13 lety +3

    this looks like GTA IV

  • @markjackson5333
    @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety +1

    Trash TV this isn't your vid so how come your saying its few days before 911 lol when it could be way before

  • @BadDriversOfNorthCarolina

    I miss those towers!

  • @brianjackson5120
    @brianjackson5120 Před 5 lety

    Beautiful Towers Before 11/09

  • @IvanIsaacBenjumea
    @IvanIsaacBenjumea Před 11 lety

    Dont be pissed. The gov't decided to go with a different more modern building to show how America has advanced in the meantime, and we came back stronger, with 3 buildings now.

  • @cipherjoe9
    @cipherjoe9 Před měsícem

    Getting GTA vibes from this video

  • @jamesvazquez2491
    @jamesvazquez2491 Před 2 lety

    This could not have been a few days before 9/11, since at about 45-50 seconds you can clearly see Wolman rink lit up in Central Park

  • @brickle6542
    @brickle6542 Před rokem

    Did you ever see the cars at 0:00 going backwards? Reversed footage lol

  • @jenderssen
    @jenderssen Před 6 lety +2

    Who Watching in 9/11/2018?

  • @markjackson5333
    @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety

    Wonder when this was filmed

  • @Dethsrow
    @Dethsrow Před 4 lety

    Is that the West 30th Street heliport they took off from?

    • @markjackson5333
      @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety

      Looks like they In Queens or something because the empire building is in the back

  • @SRGots
    @SRGots Před 2 měsíci

    Before all of those ugly skinny buildings uptown ruinged the skyline.

  • @foureleven86
    @foureleven86 Před 12 lety +1

    I'm srry but really pisses me off that we didn't rebuild em smh

  • @Italiangirlnj747
    @Italiangirlnj747 Před 4 lety

    Utterly sad

  • @markjackson5333
    @markjackson5333 Před 3 lety

    Are the pools in the exact same spot as where they stood or further up

    • @flickzbynick
      @flickzbynick Před rokem +1

      Exact same spot duh 😂

    • @markjackson5333
      @markjackson5333 Před 8 měsíci

      Duh? Why so kid. You googled it just to try sound smart ​@@flickzbynick

    • @flickzbynick
      @flickzbynick Před 8 měsíci

      @@markjackson5333 no i didnt fuck head

    • @flickzbynick
      @flickzbynick Před 8 měsíci

      @@markjackson5333 i never googled anything lol, we all know that. But ur dumdum doesn’t 🤣

    • @markjackson5333
      @markjackson5333 Před 27 dny

      ​@@flickzbynickok kid 😂

  • @FastCarsNoRules220
    @FastCarsNoRules220 Před 11 lety +1

    wasn't it raining on the night before 9/11??

    • @craigusselman546
      @craigusselman546 Před 6 lety +1

      this was a few days before so maybe sept 7th.

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 Před 6 lety +1

      I think this is actually Christmas 2000

  • @jrat92
    @jrat92 Před 11 lety

    As nice as that would have been I think it would have been in poor taste. I mean, family members would see the new towers as a reminder of who they lost on 9/11. Of course, this is just my opinion and I could be wrong.