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Outlaw Paints - Do they live up to the Hype?

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • You may have heard a lot about Outlaw paints over the past 9 months since their release in the UK. Here I give you an overview of what I think the main benefits to the paints are, demonstrated using the venerable Airfix Bf109E.
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    0:00 Introduction
    3:17 Yellow
    3:49 Underside
    7:19 Upper Surfaces
    10:20 Splinter Camo
    12:42 Mottle
    14:29 Decals
    15:14 Total Times
    16:15 Finished Model
    17:16 Conclusions
    20:23 Like, Share, Subscribe
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Komentáře • 53

  • @MannsModelMoments
    @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +2

    Have you tried Outlaw paints yet? Will you? Let me know your thoughts down below....

  • @julianmhall
    @julianmhall Před měsícem +2

    Great video Alex! I noticed as well you didn't need any primer and it still went on fine and covered very nicely :)

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah - the purpose of a primer is to provide good adhesion of the paint and provide an even surface. Using lacquers you're getting good adhesion as part of that "hot" nature, and the high pigment density means an even finish is only needed to see if sanding etc has worked to your satisfaction!

  • @zulerodoeht329
    @zulerodoeht329 Před měsícem +3

    Great video, thanks for the demonstration. I never knew that lacquer paints dried so quickly. You asked so here goes, the paint line looks great, the downside is I already have quite the stockpile of Tamiya and Model Air. I also have a few Ammo by Mig and a few AK paint bottles. I never went down the Mission Model or Hataka paint road. I will pick up a bottle or two in order to give the paint a fair shake. After all, there is only so much room in the "tank factory" as my wife calls it. I am deep in the Heart of Texas "San Antonio", so I do have 4 hobby shops (not including Hobby Lobby) to shop from. I will see if the local hobby shops are carrying Outlaw Paints. Thanks again, keep up the good work.

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +3

      I have (literally) hundreds of paints in my personal collection - I'm not throwing them away, they're just being used for different purposes - hand brushing, painting areas where I don't need a rapid dry time or super-durable finish (interior areas that won't be seen much for example) or for thinner more transparent coats over pre-shading and marbling. But yes, that old enemy of space is always there looming over us!

    • @AussieScaleModeller
      @AussieScaleModeller Před měsícem +1

      Bobs Hobbyshop and Rc in the States

  • @richardtrinder89001
    @richardtrinder89001 Před měsícem +2

    Great video Alex, looking to get some soon to try out on the lifeboats.

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      You should! Mos has the full lifeboat range at the UK Outlaw site.

  • @emmabird9745
    @emmabird9745 Před měsícem +2

    Interesting. Looks easy to use, but taking your time is part of any past time, after all we don't build models as if we were on a factory production line, but being able to does not mean we have do, does it. I will have to give this paint a try when I have some spare time.
    Thinking about your "only danger is knocking over the bottle", I suggest that you need a block with a hole in it rather like the inkwell holder in an old fashioned escritiore.

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem

      That's a great idea...also my middle school (Age 8-10) had desks which had holes for an ink pot together with a lid so you could put your schoolbooks inside it....

    • @emmabird9745
      @emmabird9745 Před měsícem +1

      @@MannsModelMoments mine too. Oh so long ago.

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem

      @@emmabird9745 Sadly yes!

  • @glencwilson
    @glencwilson Před měsícem +1

    What a great way to show the properties of the paints. The yellow paint was impressive. Will give that one a try for sure. The trouble with paints like those, after using something like AK RC is having to learn how to use them. Not having to thin them and use lower pressure feels strange (MRP are similar but do need a few coats especially for yellow). Given their coverage I guess they probably won't be any use for pre-shading but post shading could be a lot easier. Do like the range of colours and the pearls might be fun to use on cars.
    With such good coverage I guess that seams and surface finish might be more important than with some other paints. Would be interested to see a video on something like that.

  • @ChrisColeman-yf8jk
    @ChrisColeman-yf8jk Před měsícem +1

    Hi Alex only thing missing is the need for ppe for the user and care required for others in the household including pets With anyone who has health issues they are really a no no. In this day and age surely it's time manufacturers brought out a good save paint !

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      Well we have safe paints - they're acrylic emulsions...but safe comes with some compromises....at the end of the day we still are constrained by chemistry and physics!

    • @ChrisColeman-yf8jk
      @ChrisColeman-yf8jk Před měsícem

      I do wonder how many use the correct respiratory equipment and that lacquer will remain toxic inside your home for 30-40 days.

  • @haydwilljones
    @haydwilljones Před měsícem +1

    A good video Alex, i really enjoyed it and found it useful, thanks for doing it and am looking forward to more on this range of paints.

  • @wordenb1830
    @wordenb1830 Před měsícem +3

    I've only used 3 Outlaw colours so far and have yet to come to any real conclusions but they do show promise. For me they dry a little too quick, but then I have no need or wish to paint a model against the clock. I like to build up a wet coat from 2 or 3 light coats with the aim of allowing the paint to level out as it dries. I've found adding about 30% thinners with retarder suits works for me with little impact on colour density.

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem

      If you want to try this approach, the best thing to do is use a levelling thinner - I'll be doing a video on my own shortly!

    • @AussieScaleModeller
      @AussieScaleModeller Před měsícem +2

      All Outlaw Paint is designed to self level no matter what as the pigments are a liquid base, the thinners has been engineered to do this, And I know because I make it lol , Its made by a modeller and I am now 51 yrs a modeller and 3 yrs of making Outlaw and never settling for close enough

    • @wordenb1830
      @wordenb1830 Před měsícem

      Is levelling thinner different to thinner with retarder Alex? I have tried it with MLT and Tamiya thinner with retarder, both give a lovely finish.

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem

      Mr Hobby thinner is a mix of polar organic solvents - the levelling thinner only differs in the ratios of these, which allows manipulation (extension) of the drying time

  • @chrisflowers6479
    @chrisflowers6479 Před měsícem +1

    Great video i think I might give them a try. I like the idea of being able to use it straight into the airbrush and the drying time as well. 👍

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      The worst than can happen (barring spilling the paint or dropping your model, of course!) is you don't like them...

  • @markstott6689
    @markstott6689 Před měsícem +1

    I do like the look of these paints very much. However, with my long-term health issues and, therefore, limited income, it's a tough sell. The cost of upgrading my mask and homemade spray booth is an issue. Plus then, there are the costs of buying into a new range of paints.
    Maybe one day I'll get to give it a go. 😊❤😊

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem

      Cost-wise the paints are comparable to others since you're getting twice the volume of many (3x in the case of Tamiya), but I understand the health issue piece completely, and as others have mentioned, I'll look at doing a video on this in future.
      If you're going to "dip your toe" into Outlaw, a good place to start is primers - since you get the adhesion benefits and can then use your regular paints on top. Alternatively, a few "key" colours (eg RAF dark green, Ocean blue and medium Sea Grey is you're into mid-war British subjects) so you can do your main base camo painting with Outlaw and then use your other paints for bands, details etc.

    • @markstott6689
      @markstott6689 Před měsícem

      @MannsModelMoments The main issue Alex, is the cost of a proper spray booth to replace the giant cardboard box that I'm currently using. That will necessitate birthday and Christmas present money. A cheap booth is around £75. A good sized one appears to be anything up to £200.
      I've seen a Drager face mask on Amazon for around £40 which seems reasonable. Unless you tell me they are rubbish.
      Perhaps the Christmas plan of a stand mixer will have to wait (it's getting to the point where kneading bread is becoming much too painful).

  • @DansModelBench
    @DansModelBench Před měsícem +1

    Great review. I've only used their 2K clear on a car kit, but it went down brilliantly and it was my first attempt at using a product like that on I think only my second car kit. Would you be able to do a follow up video discussing the health risks and recommendations for handling various types of paints? I think that could be a useful follow on from what you have already discussed in regards model paints. Cheers Dan

  • @DirtRat62
    @DirtRat62 Před měsícem +3

    Are you stocking Outlaw paint? More than a little interested.

  • @KeithWeldon
    @KeithWeldon Před měsícem +1

    This has to be the Airfix mid 80"s Bf 109F kit not the newer Bf 109E. Still great looking model Will have to try the line when available in the USA

  • @allandaniell7055
    @allandaniell7055 Před měsícem +1

    I’ve been using them for years here in Oz.
    I like them 👍

  • @iannicholls7476
    @iannicholls7476 Před měsícem +1

    That does look very quick and trouble free. What are you using for cleaning up the airbrush?

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem

      I use my own airbrush cleaner, available through the shop :-D

  • @ModelMinutes
    @ModelMinutes Před měsícem +1

    I've experienced only a few lacquer paints in my time, the SMS and Tamiya versions - both of which I have been very happy with. I do particularly like the airbrush-ready nature of these kinds of paints and their fast drying time. I'll need to give outlaw a try when I get the chance!

  • @JAFKARNAT
    @JAFKARNAT Před měsícem +1

    Nice video, great for spraying. How is it with the old hairy stick ?

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      It's made for spraying, thoguh I have used it for small pieces by brush, the main issue with brush painting lacquers is you get more solvent on the plastic than it's designed for, which can end up attacking the plastic itself. Outlaw are working on a brush-paintable version at the moment.

    • @jefthing
      @jefthing Před měsícem

      No, no, quite impressed. But I don’t do airbrushing and Vallejo meets my needs.

  • @alexmoore2831
    @alexmoore2831 Před měsícem +1

    Just need the lifeboat to arrive to try these out. ALEX can your airbrush cleaner be decanted into a plastic bottle or does it need to stay in the glass

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem

      It might be ok in a suitable HDPE container (if you have one that contained a similar solvent like Tamiya lacquer thinner), but it will eat through some plastics....

  • @TheLittleThingsJunkie
    @TheLittleThingsJunkie Před měsícem +1

    How do they compare directly with other lacquer brands like MRP, SMS, Hataka? Are Outlaw paints better than those in any way? Not as good in any way?

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      The main advantage over other lacquers is pigment density (which is hard to show on a video, though I may give that a go!). With lower pigment density paints you're building up colour - which obviously takes longer. If you het too much of a lacquer paint on a model, the solvent can attack the plastic before it evaporates...which no one wants. Using levelling thinners helps, but that extends drying time....so as always, it's a case of what works for you and your style.

  • @ekkehardlehmann7016
    @ekkehardlehmann7016 Před měsícem +1

    You can mask the acrylic color after less then 5 minutes? I can´t believe it... I see, you spray very "dry". I´ll try this outlaw colorpaints. I think,they are great.

  • @garyhunt4032
    @garyhunt4032 Před měsícem +1

    Did you find they smell stronger than most other lacquer paints,I found they smell a little like cellulose paint

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      To be honest, you should really be wearing a chemical filter mask when spraying ANY lacquer or cellulose solvent paints, and you shouldn't really be able to smell anything through that - if you can, probably time to change the filters!

    • @garyhunt4032
      @garyhunt4032 Před měsícem +1

      @MannsModelMoments it's more when I've finished it lingers more, but yes I do where a mask,and a ventilated room,with a small booth and fan

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      @@garyhunt4032 I've not noticed a big difference between them and others like SMS etc myself

  • @stephenwhelan2515
    @stephenwhelan2515 Před měsícem +1

    How are they for brush painting? I do have an airbrush but it will be a while before this becomes my main method of painting, so for now im still with my humbrol and revell enamels.

    • @MannsModelMoments
      @MannsModelMoments  Před měsícem +1

      They're not designed for brush painting but they are making a brushable range soon