It’s amazing how some mechanics perform gracefully, smooth and steady. My mechanic would have a mess everywhere, dirt in tank, torn bent and broken. Nasty paw prints and residue thru out the interior. Atleast an extra hour of work and blame everything accept himself. Amazing, Well done.. I guess once you get jobs nailed down the next steps are style points. Excellent work..
Had a good laugh with your comments and some visuals came to mind instantly. Seems like i'm always reworking a previous botched repair. In fact, just had to "clean up" another techs mess last week and will be releasing the video soon. Appreciate the compliments.
you probably dont give a damn but does anybody know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I somehow forgot my login password. I love any assistance you can give me!
@Dalton Rory i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
Never heard or seen one of those valves. If that were my truck, I would only open auxiliary valve to fill main tank once it was low then close back off.
Funny! Forgot all about that job until your comment. Just watched it back for the first time since I posted it. Brought back some not so good memories.
If i drive my explorer 2016 continue 350+ KM and fuel less than half or quarter, suddenly showing error Fuel empty whereas there is a fuel in the tank In a city if i drive 50, its ok not showing fuel empty error. Appreciate your feedback as i went to couple of mechanic but failed😢
I have a 13 f150 3.5. Thought it was a bad sender so I put a new pump, low fuel message and needle on E remains with a p0463 and p0460. Overlayed the harness circuits from the pump to the cluster(yellow/violet and green/blue) in order to discard any fitted t issues or bad connections. No change. Tried different clusters on it. All 3 clusters do the same thing. At times the needle reads fine at idle or driving but as soon as I turn the truck off it starts acting up again. Checked the old pump fuel lvl sensor resistance and it’s fine, the resistance responds to the floats movement. I don’t know what else to try.
You will need to scan IPC for the sub codes to determine which testing is needed. P0460:11 - Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit: Circuit Short to Ground = circuit with a short to ground for more than 33 seconds P0460:13 - Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit: Circuit Open = circuit with an open or short to voltage for more than 33 seconds Get back to me with sub codes and maybe I can help you out.
I’m having this problem with my 02 Cummins. I’ve changed the sending unit, had my pcm/ecm check both fine, put another pcm in from a different truck, done the cluster test and fuel gauge works fine. When the truck is really cold the fuel gauge goes to around half when I start it up then goes right back to empty but if the truck is warm gauge doesn’t move.
Most of the identifix fixes I see for fuel gauge issues relate to the fuel sender. I pulled up a diagram for 02 Ram 2500/3500 diesel. DK BLU/White wire is the fuel level signal = 7volts empty and .5volts full. Access that wire at pcm connector C3 pin26 and ground it when the problem happens. If the fuel gauge goes to full then problem lies downstream with wiring to tank or sending unit connection. If the gauge still reads empty then the problem lies upstream with communication between pcm/ipc or bad instrument panel cluster. You can also ground the same wire at the fuel sender and see what happens while in failure mode.
My son has same issue with his 2013 F150 gas gauge reading empty. He replaced the sending unit with a new one. It didnt fix it. His gauge still reads empty, and his estimated fuel mileage in the cluster has all dashes. Could it be a fuse circuit under the hood, or the instrument cluster be bad?
With key on, disconnect connector at fuel sender and install 10 ohm resistor between yellow-violet & green-blue and see if fuel gauge reads full. Or, install small jumper wire between two pins to see if gauge rises. If nothing happens then check for any voltage on ye-vt wire. If no voltage then probably has bad cluster.
I replaced my fuel pump assembly and my gauge still jumps around when i just fill it up the gauge will go to empty and the low fuel message comes on, but as the fuel level goes down the needle will read around full and then the low fuel message will randomly pop up. I was going to check the anti slosh chip in the cluster. Any suggestions?
Hello. I got a question maybe someone in the comments can help. I got an 02 GMC Sierra only thing I did recently was switch the dash cluster back lights for leds after I turned the motor over to make sure they worked. I got stuck with battery, low fuel and security flashing light. As well as passenger seat seatbelt, and abs light. Gear selector and fuel gauge not working. So I swapped back to incandescents and still have the same issue. Gonna pull fuses and check those. Don’t have an electrical tester. So gonna start there before I move in to sending unit. What do y’all think?
You need a scanner and see if or what codes are stored in the modules. It could be a ground issue, make sure you carefully perform a visual inspection of the pins in the instrument cluster connectors for spread out terminals, burnt connector, etc. When you have the cluster out, leave the connectors installed and wiggle them to see if performance is restored.
I have a 2003 Mazda 6. My gas gauge just started reading empty now. And occasionally when I turn it on it will read what it actually has. What could it be
Pretty sure it is BC3Z-9275-B but that is for the entire fuel pump module. You will have to give your local dealer parts department a call with the vin# to see if they sell just the resistor.
So I just filled my tank up. Had no issues with my gauge. I parked my car slanted sideways at a job I was at. My driver side was way lower in the ditch and my passenger side up in the road. I got in my truck and it shows completely empty. Could my floater thing be stuck? I know nothing
If you have one of those tanks that wraps over the driveline then the gas drained over to the opposite side of the float being at an extreme angle. Fill up your tank and I bet the gauge reads correctly again.
I filled it up again after it showed empty to ensure I even filled it up that morning. Lol I thought I was losing my mind. But yea it still showed empty. Lol anyways I just woke up and left for work and it’s back on full!!! That was stressing me out. This is the second time that has happen in the past six months. I have an 07 trailblazer 4.2
Forst of all I'd take the battery off charge for half hour. Mine stops working from time to time. I take battery connector off for half hour.then it starts working again.
I would start by checking to see if the software is up to date but requires Ford factory IDS or aftermarket passthrough with subscription. If you ever have it at the dealer, see if you can sweet talk them into plugging the tool in and checking current software version for updates.
My 2011 Ford F150 I can fill it up reads full I drive 15 miles and I use a half a tank of gas according to the computer turn it off restart it and I'm back home full again could that be a fuse
Strange one Angie. Here is the IPC (instrument panel cluster) strategy on your vehicle: The IPC uses 4 different operating modes to calculate the fuel level: •Anti-slosh (default mode) •Key off fueling •Key on fueling •Recovery *Anti-Slosh Mode The default fuel gauge mode is called the anti-slosh mode. To prevent fuel gauge changes from fuel slosh (gauge instability due to changes in fuel sender readings caused by fuel moving around in the tank), the fuel gauge takes approximately 55 minutes to go from empty (E) to full (F). *Key Off Fueling Mode The key off fueling mode (2 seconds to read empty [E] to full [F]) requires the following conditions be met: •The ignition must be off when refueling the vehicle. •At least 15% of the vehicle's fuel capacity must be added to the fuel tank. •The IPC must receive a valid key on fuel sender reading within 1 second of the ignition being put into run. The key on sample readings are considered valid if the fuel sender reading is between 10 ohms ± 2 ohms and 180 ohms ± 4 ohms. *Key On Fueling Mode The key on fueling mode (approximately 60 seconds to read empty [E] to full [F]) requires the following conditions be met: •Engine speed input greater than 0 rpm. •The transmission is in park. •The ignition is in run. •At least 15% of the vehicle's fuel capacity must be added to the fuel tank. In key on fueling mode, a 30 second timer activates after the transmission is put into the PARK position. When the 30 second time has elapsed and at least 15% of the vehicle's fuel capacity has been added, the fuel gauge response time is 60 seconds to read from empty (E) to full (F). When the transmission is shifted out of park, the fuel gauge strategy reverts to the anti-slosh mode. The key on fueling mode prevents slow to read full events from happening if the customer refuels the vehicle with the ignition in RUN. *Recovery Mode Recovery mode is incorporated into the IPC strategy to recover from a missing fuel level input after a refueling event. Missing fuel level inputs result from intermittent opens in the fuel sender or its circuits. Recovery mode (empty [E] to full [F] approximately 20 minutes) is initiated when the following 2 conditions are met: •The IPC is in the anti-slosh (default) mode. •The actual fuel level in the tank is greater than what is being displayed by the fuel gauge. All that being said, LOL. Have someone scan the IPC module to see if any one of the codes PO460 PO461 PO462 PO463 PO464 are stored. If so then most likely the fuel sender (fuel pump module) needs replaced.
Yes, they work under the same principal but you need to locate and print out the wiring diagram for the fuel pump system to know what color the fuel sender wires are.
Ignorant customers Really 😂😂😂maybe sometimes but have you ever had to work with ford service ? 😂 I’m a customer who turned in the the one who had to fix my own car because of the complete ignorance I found at multiple ford service centers . I found a burnt harness from a known issue that was causing codes that the ford service tec had called ghost codes 😂 what should make it even more embarrassing for ford service is I had never done this stuff before I always just took it in . But I got tired of it so I had to buy tools to fix it myself because of the ridiculous people I encountered . Me being a woman didn’t help because they didn’t even listen when I told them what the issue was . So yea a woman who had never had to work on cars herself before fixed something that they couldn’t figure out
It’s amazing how some mechanics perform gracefully, smooth and steady.
My mechanic would have a mess everywhere, dirt in tank, torn bent and broken. Nasty paw prints and residue thru out the interior. Atleast an extra hour of work and blame everything accept himself. Amazing, Well done.. I guess once you get jobs nailed down the next steps are style points. Excellent work..
Had a good laugh with your comments and some visuals came to mind instantly. Seems like i'm always reworking a previous botched repair. In fact, just had to "clean up" another techs mess last week and will be releasing the video soon. Appreciate the compliments.
you probably dont give a damn but does anybody know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I somehow forgot my login password. I love any assistance you can give me!
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@Dalton Rory i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@Dalton Rory It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much, you saved my ass!
ALWAYS COME IN FULL WHEN YA GOTTA DROP THE TANK, AND EMPTY WHEN YA GOTTA TEST DRIVE EM....LOL TECH LIFE
Oh Man, If that ain't the truth especially if it's a GM. Not sure why so many HP Vortec pumps fail right after tank is filled?
It needs one of those Toyota valve and pump things where it only refills the sub tank once the main tank gets below a certain level.
Never heard or seen one of those valves. If that were my truck, I would only open auxiliary valve to fill main tank once it was low then close back off.
@@raincitywrench117 they are on some Toyota Landcruisers and others.
I love all the Gd and f bombs when you opened the tank!🤣
Funny! Forgot all about that job until your comment. Just watched it back for the first time since I posted it. Brought back some not so good memories.
2005 F250 XL 4x4 reg cab fuel gauge always on empty turn on key needle moves on down past empty ? Gauge cluster or sending unit I’m at Witt’s end
If i drive my explorer 2016 continue 350+ KM and fuel less than half or quarter, suddenly showing error Fuel empty whereas there is a fuel in the tank
In a city if i drive 50, its ok not showing fuel empty error.
Appreciate your feedback as i went to couple of mechanic but failed😢
Scan it and see if there are codes like P1243 stored. If so then most likely needs a sending unit
I have a 13 f150 3.5. Thought it was a bad sender so I put a new pump, low fuel message and needle on E remains with a p0463 and p0460. Overlayed the harness circuits from the pump to the cluster(yellow/violet and green/blue) in order to discard any fitted t issues or bad connections. No change. Tried different clusters on it. All 3 clusters do the same thing. At times the needle reads fine at idle or driving but as soon as I turn the truck off it starts acting up again. Checked the old pump fuel lvl sensor resistance and it’s fine, the resistance responds to the floats movement. I don’t know what else to try.
You will need to scan IPC for the sub codes to determine which testing is needed.
P0460:11 - Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit: Circuit Short to Ground = circuit with a short to ground for more than 33 seconds
P0460:13 - Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit: Circuit Open = circuit with an open or short to voltage for more than 33 seconds
Get back to me with sub codes and maybe I can help you out.
I’m having this problem with my 02 Cummins. I’ve changed the sending unit, had my pcm/ecm check both fine, put another pcm in from a different truck, done the cluster test and fuel gauge works fine. When the truck is really cold the fuel gauge goes to around half when I start it up then goes right back to empty but if the truck is warm gauge doesn’t move.
I'll enter your symptoms into Identifix tomorrow and see if I get any hits and get back to you.
@@raincitywrench117 ok thanks
Most of the identifix fixes I see for fuel gauge issues relate to the fuel sender. I pulled up a diagram for 02 Ram 2500/3500 diesel. DK BLU/White wire is the fuel level signal = 7volts empty and .5volts full. Access that wire at pcm connector C3 pin26 and ground it when the problem happens. If the fuel gauge goes to full then problem lies downstream with wiring to tank or sending unit connection. If the gauge still reads empty then the problem lies upstream with communication between pcm/ipc or bad instrument panel cluster. You can also ground the same wire at the fuel sender and see what happens while in failure mode.
@@raincitywrench117 Thank you, I really appreciate the help.
Sir I have a question, where can I get the tool, the tester?
Just had brand new fuel pump put in but the fuel gauge is stuck on empty. It is a 2011 Chevy Impala
Make sure the float and arm are not caught on something like the side of the tank and there is no damage to the wiring on top of the tank
My son has same issue with his 2013 F150 gas gauge reading empty. He replaced the sending unit with a new one. It didnt fix it. His gauge still reads empty, and his estimated fuel mileage in the cluster has all dashes. Could it be a fuse circuit under the hood, or the instrument cluster be bad?
With key on, disconnect connector at fuel sender and install 10 ohm resistor between yellow-violet & green-blue and see if fuel gauge reads full. Or, install small jumper wire between two pins to see if gauge rises. If nothing happens then check for any voltage on ye-vt wire. If no voltage then probably has bad cluster.
I replaced my fuel pump assembly and my gauge still jumps around when i just fill it up the gauge will go to empty and the low fuel message comes on, but as the fuel level goes down the needle will read around full and then the low fuel message will randomly pop up.
I was going to check the anti slosh chip in the cluster. Any suggestions?
Weird issue. Maybe the float is hanging hanging up on something in the tank or the side of tank? What model of vehicle?
@raincitywrench117 tell me about it lol. I'm going to try modifying the slosh chip next I think
It's a 2012 lincoln navigator L
Hello.
I got a question maybe someone in the comments can help.
I got an 02 GMC Sierra only thing I did recently was switch the dash cluster back lights for leds after I turned the motor over to make sure they worked. I got stuck with battery, low fuel and security flashing light. As well as passenger seat seatbelt, and abs light. Gear selector and fuel gauge not working.
So I swapped back to incandescents and still have the same issue. Gonna pull fuses and check those. Don’t have an electrical tester. So gonna start there before I move in to sending unit.
What do y’all think?
You need a scanner and see if or what codes are stored in the modules. It could be a ground issue, make sure you carefully perform a visual inspection of the pins in the instrument cluster connectors for spread out terminals, burnt connector, etc. When you have the cluster out, leave the connectors installed and wiggle them to see if performance is restored.
Where did you get that test kit if you don’t mind me asking ?
aeswave. Fantastic kit! Worth every penny. Use it all the time. www.aeswave.com/uTest-Advanced-Terminal-Test-Kit-p9748.html
I have a 2003 Mazda 6. My gas gauge just started reading empty now. And occasionally when I turn it on it will read what it actually has. What could it be
Sounds like the sending unit to me. Will plug your problem into IdentiFix and see if this is a popular complaint + the fix
Ok I have 12 focus. It always read full. And every time I go to fill it clicks like it’s full
TSB 14-0112 may apply. Check it out. www.tsbsearch.com/Ford/14-0112
Who cleaned up the floor?
Me, of course. Funny you ask. Have a video of how I clean the floors coming up soon.
Keep the video’s coming, very interesting.
What’s the part # for the variable resistor please
Pretty sure it is BC3Z-9275-B but that is for the entire fuel pump module. You will have to give your local dealer parts department a call with the vin# to see if they sell just the resistor.
Having the same issue on my 2011 expedition. What should I expect to pay for this type job? Thanks!
The dealer where I work isn't cheap, they charge $165 an hour so my guess parts/labor somewhere around $650 bucks.
So I just filled my tank up. Had no issues with my gauge. I parked my car slanted sideways at a job I was at. My driver side was way lower in the ditch and my passenger side up in the road. I got in my truck and it shows completely empty. Could my floater thing be stuck? I know nothing
If you have one of those tanks that wraps over the driveline then the gas drained over to the opposite side of the float being at an extreme angle. Fill up your tank and I bet the gauge reads correctly again.
I filled it up again after it showed empty to ensure I even filled it up that morning. Lol I thought I was losing my mind. But yea it still showed empty. Lol anyways I just woke up and left for work and it’s back on full!!! That was stressing me out. This is the second time that has happen in the past six months. I have an 07 trailblazer 4.2
Oh nvm one min After I posted that now it’s showing quarter tank.damn
Two mins later now it shows half. It’s trying so hard lol
@@raincitywrench117 wow five mins later at 3/4. Sorry for blowing up your page
Forst of all I'd take the battery off charge for half hour. Mine stops working from time to time. I take battery connector off for half hour.then it starts working again.
I would start by checking to see if the software is up to date but requires Ford factory IDS or aftermarket passthrough with subscription. If you ever have it at the dealer, see if you can sweet talk them into plugging the tool in and checking current software version for updates.
My 2011 Ford F150 I can fill it up reads full I drive 15 miles and I use a half a tank of gas according to the computer turn it off restart it and I'm back home full again could that be a fuse
Strange one Angie. Here is the IPC (instrument panel cluster) strategy on your vehicle:
The IPC uses 4 different operating modes to calculate the fuel level:
•Anti-slosh (default mode)
•Key off fueling
•Key on fueling
•Recovery
*Anti-Slosh Mode
The default fuel gauge mode is called the anti-slosh mode. To prevent fuel gauge changes from fuel slosh (gauge instability due to changes in fuel sender readings caused by fuel moving around in the tank), the fuel gauge takes approximately 55 minutes to go from empty (E) to full (F).
*Key Off Fueling Mode
The key off fueling mode (2 seconds to read empty [E] to full [F]) requires the following conditions be met:
•The ignition must be off when refueling the vehicle.
•At least 15% of the vehicle's fuel capacity must be added to the fuel tank.
•The IPC must receive a valid key on fuel sender reading within 1 second of the ignition being put into run. The key on sample readings are considered valid if the fuel sender reading is between 10 ohms ± 2 ohms and 180 ohms ± 4 ohms.
*Key On Fueling Mode
The key on fueling mode (approximately 60 seconds to read empty [E] to full [F]) requires the following conditions be met:
•Engine speed input greater than 0 rpm.
•The transmission is in park.
•The ignition is in run.
•At least 15% of the vehicle's fuel capacity must be added to the fuel tank.
In key on fueling mode, a 30 second timer activates after the transmission is put into the PARK position. When the 30 second time has elapsed and at least 15% of the vehicle's fuel capacity has been added, the fuel gauge response time is 60 seconds to read from empty (E) to full (F). When the transmission is shifted out of park, the fuel gauge strategy reverts to the anti-slosh mode. The key on fueling mode prevents slow to read full events from happening if the customer refuels the vehicle with the ignition in RUN.
*Recovery Mode
Recovery mode is incorporated into the IPC strategy to recover from a missing fuel level input after a refueling event. Missing fuel level inputs result from intermittent opens in the fuel sender or its circuits. Recovery mode (empty [E] to full [F] approximately 20 minutes) is initiated when the following 2 conditions are met:
•The IPC is in the anti-slosh (default) mode.
•The actual fuel level in the tank is greater than what is being displayed by the fuel gauge.
All that being said, LOL. Have someone scan the IPC module to see if any one of the codes PO460 PO461 PO462 PO463 PO464 are stored. If so then most likely the fuel sender (fuel pump module) needs replaced.
@@raincitywrench117 thank you so much
I have a 2005 Ford 500 the fuel pump was replaced now fuel gauge not working what can I do
If the gauge was working before pump was replaced then unfortunately it looks like the pump module will need to be warrantied.
@@raincitywrench117 thank you but the weird thing it started working
@@harrysavage2596 So it wasn't working after replacement but now it does, weird.
Would this work on a 2018 ram 5500
Yes, they work under the same principal but you need to locate and print out the wiring diagram for the fuel pump system to know what color the fuel sender wires are.
Is there ever any doubt that they bring in a gauge reading problem but what the tank is full? Customers are so ignorant!
😂
Ignorant customers Really 😂😂😂maybe sometimes but have you ever had to work with ford service ? 😂 I’m a customer who turned in the the one who had to fix my own car because of the complete ignorance I found at multiple ford service centers . I found a burnt harness from a known issue that was causing codes that the ford service tec had called ghost codes 😂 what should make it even more embarrassing for ford service is I had never done this stuff before I always just took it in . But I got tired of it so I had to buy tools to fix it myself because of the ridiculous people I encountered . Me being a woman didn’t help because they didn’t even listen when I told them what the issue was . So yea a woman who had never had to work on cars herself before fixed something that they couldn’t figure out
Fuel tank hole is too small too get pump out.
The lift pump on this pickup is mid way down the left frame rail.
would you still be able to drive with the gauge reading wrong?
Sure, won't affect anything unless you forget and run out of diesel. LOL
It took forever 😂
Left alot of footage out. Driveshaft removal for example
Too much lag time on video waiting for the tank to be dropped and lifted. Waisting time